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#2895648 - 01/08/19 04:07 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: mundus]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.
Then when they get sick or hurt they go to Emergency room and rest of us get to pay for it.


"suffer the consequences" doesn't mean much when there are no consequences, or when the consequences are insufficient to coerce compliance.

I know people who have gone commando from the outset because the fines were but a fraction of the alternative of paying the costs for services they never use. Most of us probably know people like that.

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#2895649 - 01/08/19 04:07 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: manbearpig]
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Our doofus governor and democrat controlled legislature imposed the employee mandate at the state level as soon as it was removed at the federal level. The penalty is at the state level not. Sounds like California is fooking its citizens over the same way.

So now youre no longer for states rights? dancing


All for states rights. Trust me, other states are looking better and better all the time than this one. I figure I'll be out of this state within 10 years.
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#2895655 - 01/08/19 04:16 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GromsDad]
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Our doofus governor and democrat controlled legislature imposed the employee mandate at the state level as soon as it was removed at the federal level. The penalty is at the state level not. Sounds like California is fooking its citizens over the same way.

So now you’re no longer for states rights? dancing


All for states rights. Trust me, other states are looking better and better all the time than this one. I figure I'll be out of this state within 10 years.
Go all the way, leave the country please! I hear Russia is nice, we all know you love their propaganda.

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#2895660 - 01/08/19 04:31 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: Wheelhouse]
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theres a place for people without insurance:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...eneral-hospital

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#2895665 - 01/08/19 04:35 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GromsDad]
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Our doofus governor and democrat controlled legislature imposed the employee mandate at the state level as soon as it was removed at the federal level. The penalty is at the state level not. Sounds like California is fooking its citizens over the same way.

So now youre no longer for states rights? dancing


All for states rights. Trust me, other states are looking better and better all the time than this one. I figure I'll be out of this state within 10 years.


Youre not going to be safe anywhere in 10 years. roflmao
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#2895675 - 01/08/19 04:54 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.
Then when they get sick or hurt they go to Emergency room and rest of us get to pay for it.


"suffer the consequences" doesn't mean much when there are no consequences, or when the consequences are insufficient to coerce compliance.

I know people who have gone commando from the outset because the fines were but a fraction of the alternative of paying the costs for services they never use. Most of us probably know people like that.



I dont hang out with criminals and mooches.
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#2895679 - 01/08/19 04:57 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.
Then when they get sick or hurt they go to Emergency room and rest of us get to pay for it.


"suffer the consequences" doesn't mean much when there are no consequences, or when the consequences are insufficient to coerce compliance.

I know people who have gone commando from the outset because the fines were but a fraction of the alternative of paying the costs for services they never use. Most of us probably know people like that.

Yes, they are called free loading scumbags.

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#2895680 - 01/08/19 04:58 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace]
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No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.
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#2895692 - 01/08/19 05:32 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy]
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No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.


Surfing is dangerous too.

I refuse to pay health care insurance for surfers.
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#2895720 - 01/08/19 06:31 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: mundus]
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Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Or, just decline to comply and suffer the consequences.
Then when they get sick or hurt they go to Emergency room and rest of us get to pay for it.


"suffer the consequences" doesn't mean much when there are no consequences, or when the consequences are insufficient to coerce compliance.

I know people who have gone commando from the outset because the fines were but a fraction of the alternative of paying the costs for services they never use. Most of us probably know people like that.

Yes, they are called free loading scumbags.


if one isn't using the services, then I don't think the free loading bit fits.

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#2895722 - 01/08/19 06:36 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.


Surfing is dangerous too.

I refuse to pay health care insurance for surfers.


What if you are vibed though??

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#2895725 - 01/08/19 06:40 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.


Surfing is dangerous too.

I refuse to pay health care insurance for surfers.


You shouldn't. That's the whole point.
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#2895791 - 01/08/19 09:18 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy]
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I think tax funded, federally administered healthcare is a great idea. I dont see any downside except for those in for-profit healthcare management, who account for an unreasonable percentage of our healthcare costs. Obamacare has opened the door to this type of medical care and Republicans are probably not going to be able to close it again, regardless of how much money they throw at it.
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#2895797 - 01/08/19 09:47 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.


Surfing is dangerous too.

I refuse to pay health care insurance for surfers.


You shouldn't. That's the whole point.


What do you mean you shouldn't?

If you have insurance, you are already paying for smokers, heart attackers and people who take risks.

You okay with that?

You and ifail don't know how risk pools work apparently.

Whether it's provided by eval gubmint or Blue Cross, it works exactly the same.
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#2895798 - 01/08/19 09:49 PM Re: Gavin Newsome - insurance for the illegals - mandate for everyone [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
No drug users or speeders or tax cheats or smog violators?

Duly noted.


Surfing is dangerous too.

I refuse to pay health care insurance for surfers.


You shouldn't. That's the whole point.


What do you mean you shouldn't?

If you have insurance, you are already paying for smokers, heart attackers and people who take risks.

You okay with that?
And they pay more, bonehead.
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