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#2895513 - 01/08/19 12:30 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: ko25ok]
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Originally Posted By: ko25ok
Originally Posted By: Duffy
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is the answer low income housing...or limiting/taxing/who knows? the psychotic amount of income properties?


Or, you know, you could move to a more affordable area....


THIS

I’ll never understand not moving to a more affordable area.

My entire family is from Hawaii and I’m fortunate enough right now to still live here and am doing okay. If things started to get tonight and I started to really feel the the effects of the INSANE cost of living than I’d be gone and moved to the mainland in a second. Wouldn’t even ever consider my family living in the projects or homeless on the beach.

Why people aren’t willing to be more mobile is beyond me.


cause jobs aren't mobile. When you can only afford maybe something in Santa Clarita but your job is Santa Monica. hour 1/2 drive one way on a good day.

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#2895521 - 01/08/19 12:52 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: stu dog]
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Originally Posted By: stu dog

cause jobs aren't mobile. When you can only afford maybe something in Santa Clarita but your job is Santa Monica. hour 1/2 drive one way on a good day.

Traffic, traffic, traffic.
Yep, tooo much drive time!

Say you have a 1 hour commute each way to get to work, 1 hour to to get back home.
That's 2 hours a day behind the wheel heading to+from.

Multiply that times 5 work days a week,
you now have 10 hours behind the wheel each work week.

Multiply that by 4 work weeks a month, congrats, you will have spent 40 hours this month,
One Whole Work Week, just drivin' to + from work, right? F**k that, it's gotta suck!

I hope that your boss gives you a paycheck for those 40 hours of your time this month...
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#2895532 - 01/08/19 01:14 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: stu dog]
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Originally Posted By: stu dog


cause jobs aren't mobile. When you can only afford maybe something in Santa Clarita but your job is Santa Monica. hour 1/2 drive one way on a good day.

That's a cop out.

There's plenty of jobs in affordable parts of the country. People move everyday and start over in a cheaper place. The internet makes it even easier. You can apply for jobs and find something well before you even get to wherever you're going.

Let's be realistic. People want to live in California and Hawaii and some believe that it is their right because their family lives there.

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#2895534 - 01/08/19 01:16 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: Muscles]
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cause jobs aren't mobile. When you can only afford maybe something in Santa Clarita but your job is Santa Monica. hour 1/2 drive one way on a good day.

That's a cop out.

There's plenty of jobs in affordable parts of the country. People move everyday and start over in a cheaper place. The internet makes it even easier. You can apply for jobs and find something well before you even get to wherever you're going.

Let's be realistic. People want to live in California and Hawaii and some believe that it is their right because their family lives there.


the 405/10 intersection is a major major area for jobs. lucky enough I got in here for housing before prices went crazy. nearly everyone I work with commutes an hour+ daily to that area. telecommuting is pretty rare in my experience.


Edited by stu dog (01/08/19 01:17 PM)

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#2895540 - 01/08/19 01:26 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: stu dog]
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Originally Posted By: stu dog
Originally Posted By: Muscles
Originally Posted By: stu dog


cause jobs aren't mobile. When you can only afford maybe something in Santa Clarita but your job is Santa Monica. hour 1/2 drive one way on a good day.

That's a cop out.

There's plenty of jobs in affordable parts of the country. People move everyday and start over in a cheaper place. The internet makes it even easier. You can apply for jobs and find something well before you even get to wherever you're going.

Let's be realistic. People want to live in California and Hawaii and some believe that it is their right because their family lives there.


the 405/10 intersection is a major major area for jobs. lucky enough I got in here for housing before prices went crazy. nearly everyone I work with commutes an hour+ daily to that area. telecommuting is pretty rare in my experience.

Some people need to face reality and realize they can't afford California unless they want to put up with the 1.5 HR commutes to live out in the middle of nowhere.

My wife's family is from California. Three families had enough and had to move to Texas to afford a house. One family moved way inland and does the long commute in order to own a house.

I never understood those that can't afford California or Hawaii but insist on living paycheck to paycheck and on the brink of homelessness.


Edited by Muscles (01/08/19 01:48 PM)

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#2895542 - 01/08/19 01:30 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: thrillkicker]
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It's not just Los Angeles. And homelessness is a real crisis that POTUS should be talking about instead of this border nonsense.
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#2895601 - 01/08/19 02:38 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: frvcvs]
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It's not just Los Angeles. And homelessness is a real crisis that POTUS should be talking about instead of this border nonsense.


California has ~12% of the nation's population but (supposedly) 25% of homeless. The State of California has a much bigger homeless problem than most states.


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#2895634 - 01/08/19 03:57 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: thrillkicker]
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Commuting stresses me out more than paying too much for rent. I walk to work now and it’s pricelss to me.

Also jobs aren’t mobile. There are only really 3 places in the world that you can do my job in the medium I’ve chosen and make a decent living doing it.

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#2895640 - 01/08/19 04:00 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: GDaddy]
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It's not just Los Angeles. And homelessness is a real crisis that POTUS should be talking about instead of this border nonsense.


California has ~12% of the nation's population but (supposedly) 25% of homeless. The State of California has a much bigger homeless problem than most states.




It’s definitely ground zero. No arguing that. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t extend beyond our borders. I was just in Washington State last week and there were very similar encampments.
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#2895642 - 01/08/19 04:02 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: NDG80]
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Commuting stresses me out more than paying too much for rent. I walk to work now and it’s pricelss to me.

Also jobs aren’t mobile. There are only really 3 places in the world that you can do my job in the medium I’ve chosen and make a decent living doing it.


That right there is a significant obstacle. But it doesn't apply to most occupations.

I think the question that probably most people should ask themselves is how much they are gaining or losing as a direct result of the combination of choices they have made. When the gains outweigh the losses then that's good; when it's the other way around, not so good.

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#2895656 - 01/08/19 04:25 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: thrillkicker]
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A lot of California has great weather for homeless living. Ever try being homeless in New York in February ? No, because it’s too f*cking cold!
How about Florida in August?
Hell no!
But Los Angeles ?
Outdoors all day every day
Just sayin is all
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#2895657 - 01/08/19 04:29 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: Duffy]
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of relevance:

James Stack, who predicted the 2008 real estate crash and nailed last year’s housing slowdown with uncanny timing, is back with some bad news for 2019.

“Housing could be heading for its worst year since the last housing crash," Stack, 67, said in a phone interview. “Expect home sales to continue on a downward trend in the next 12-plus months. And there’s a significant downside risk to housing prices if a recession takes hold.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...rst-yet-to-come



So housing will get cheaper.

Good news for the homeless!!!!*







*except for the fact that most homeless people are not that way because of housing prices....


the next real estate downturn will coincide with an economic recession IMO so it's more about purchasing power than price.
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#2895671 - 01/08/19 04:46 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: NDG80]
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Originally Posted By: NDG80
Commuting stresses me out more than paying too much for rent. I walk to work now and it’s pricelss to me.


This is why I chose to buy in San Francisco than the East Bay.

Great minds think alike! cheers

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#2895716 - 01/08/19 06:25 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: Mr Doof]
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Originally Posted By: Mr Doof
Originally Posted By: NDG80
Commuting stresses me out more than paying too much for rent. I walk to work now and it’s pricelss to me.


This is why I chose to buy in San Francisco than the East Bay.

Great minds think alike! cheers


I wish I could buy in SF.
I'm struggling to keep our rent controlled apartment now that our roommate has left.

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#2895717 - 01/08/19 06:26 PM Re: Do you love L.A as much as I do? [Re: Random Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Random Guy
A lot of California has great weather for homeless living. Ever try being homeless in New York in February ? No, because it’s too f*cking cold!
How about Florida in August?
Hell no!
But Los Angeles ?
Outdoors all day every day
Just sayin is all
cowabunga
rg


I read recently that the homeless population by city was
1. NYC
2. LA
3 Seattle
4 SD
5 San Jose

Shocking to me, and probably shocking to those that eat up the Anti SF hype.

Not shocking? All major tech hubs


Edited by MrDobalina (01/08/19 06:30 PM)

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