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Just sharing some information!! New podcast is out. computer


Pretty rad how Tomo is focusing on surfboard nose refinement. It's kind of abstract idea. I dont know of any other shaper who has committed to refining such a specific part of a surfboard, like a nose? Cant wait to see the new designs.

He also talks about bringing back the old dual fin raptor boards with new upgrades and more "user friendly" designs, which sounds epic.

Definitely a good listen!

Also,, I think Bassy is doing a great job with his interviews so i decided to donate to the podcast this time. $5.00 is pre-set on the donate page (in case anyone is interested). I wanted to donate more but I couldn't change the amount. I think his podcasts are worth a $5.00 drop in the bucket!

Here is the link to have a listen.
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There's a podcast thread for this already.


We'll take the road that leads down to the waterside.
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Well Deforest , in response to this



Pretty rad how Tomo is focusing on surfboard nose refinement. It's kind of abstract idea. I dont know of any other shaper who has committed to refining such a specific part of a surfboard, like a nose?


Whats more effective in board performance , Nose design or Fin Design ?

I really like what Daniel is doing , lets get that correct . wave2

But I can make others boards work better with fin design . And have for a Very long time .

Nose design can't upgrade anyone else's board .

Several of us in the early 80's designed our nose with their rockers for certain effects .

No podcast back then - thats why this is all new to you bricks

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I enjoyed the conversation, except when they would talk over one another.

But there was a big missed opportunity on Scotts part here when you compare this episode to the general theme of past episodes - US board builders vs. imported boards.

I wish Scott would have asked Tomo what he thought about Dennis Jarvis' campaign to put a tariff on imported boards or what Dan thought about the protectionist attitude of Built in the US or Australia and if that was ever a consideration when signing with Firewire. Would have been interesting to hear his perspective.


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I like Dan .

Probably his best interview to date

He touches on his past creativity and a lot of us remember it when there was a new variation every month .

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Haven't listened yet. Still scratching my through the splendor podcast with Hynd.

Dang, you should have posted this in my thread:


https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2892114#Post2892114

I wish tomo made more pointy nose shortboards. I just still can't get over the chopped nose.


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Originally Posted By: silentbutdeadly
Haven't listened yet. Still scratching my through the splendor podcast with Hynd.

Dang, you should have posted this in my thread:


https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2892114#Post2892114

I wish tomo made more pointy nose shortboards. I just still can't get over the chopped nose.







Dude. SKX is an epic pointy nosed shortboard.


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Haven't listened yet. Still scratching my through the splendor podcast with Hynd.

Dang, you should have posted this in my thread:


https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2892114#Post2892114

I wish tomo made more pointy nose shortboards. I just still can't get over the chopped nose.







Dude. SKX is an epic pointy nosed shortboard.


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I wish he still made his twins. Thats still the most interesting designs hes made in my opinion

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Tried looking at their website but didn't find the available info. Does anyone know when the boardroom show will be in Japan?

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Originally Posted By: deforest
Just sharing some information!! New podcast is out. computer


Pretty rad how Tomo is focusing on surfboard nose refinement. It's kind of abstract idea. I dont know of any other shaper who has committed to refining such a specific part of a surfboard, like a nose? Cant wait to see the new designs.

He also talks about bringing back the old dual fin raptor boards with new upgrades and more "user friendly" designs, which sounds epic.

Definitely a good listen!

Also,, I think Bassy is doing a great job with his interviews so i decided to donate to the podcast this time. $5.00 is pre-set on the donate page (in case anyone is interested). I wanted to donate more but I couldn't change the amount. I think his podcasts are worth a $5.00 drop in the bucket!

Here is the link to have a listen.
https://boardroomshow.com/tomo/





You should check and make sure thats not a five dollar a month recurring donation. They like the recurring donation aspect.

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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Well Deforest , in response to this



Pretty rad how Tomo is focusing on surfboard nose refinement. It's kind of abstract idea. I dont know of any other shaper who has committed to refining such a specific part of a surfboard, like a nose?


Whats more effective in board performance , Nose design or Fin Design ?

I really like what Daniel is doing , lets get that correct . wave2

But I can make others boards work better with fin design . And have for a Very long time .

Nose design can't upgrade anyone else's board .

Several of us in the early 80's designed our nose with their rockers for certain effects .

No podcast back then - thats why this is all new to you bricks
I partially agree with what you're saying. But when a nose is pointy and catches or penetrates the water and causes the rider to fall, cutting off the nose or rounding off the nose will "techincally" improve the design. Maybe not as much of an impact as fins, but it does give the board an improvement. I remember riding the IF15 from T patterson and wishing the nose was rounded off because there were times when the nose would catch, or i would be taking off late and was fearful the nose would poke me. But I'll agree that fins effect board performance.


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Originally Posted By: jkb
I enjoyed the conversation, except when they would talk over one another.

But there was a big missed opportunity on Scotts part here when you compare this episode to the general theme of past episodes - US board builders vs. imported boards.

I wish Scott would have asked Tomo what he thought about Dennis Jarvis' campaign to put a tariff on imported boards or what Dan thought about the protectionist attitude of Built in the US or Australia and if that was ever a consideration when signing with Firewire. Would have been interesting to hear his perspective.
I felt the same way. I actually was listening and almost anticipating Bassy asking the question... but it never happened. I even messaged Scott and told him that I was surprised he didnt ask Tomo about that. Scott said "maybe I should have; but sorta feel like that topic has been excavated thoroughly." I felt the same and I felt like the overall theme of the interview was about Tomos success and focused on positive things, so asking Tomo about imports and tariffs probably wouldnt have contributed anything positive to the interview. I think that topic generates a lot of negative energy and draws a line in surfing that really isnt productive to anyone in the big scheme of things. Its a difficult situation and tarriffs dont seem to be the proper avenue for positive or even effective change. But i agree it would have been interesting to hear his perspective. Maybe a part 2 with Bassy???

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Haven't listened yet. Still scratching my through the splendor podcast with Hynd.

Dang, you should have posted this in my thread:


https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2892114#Post2892114

I wish tomo made more pointy nose shortboards. I just still can't get over the chopped nose.



Dude. SKX is an epic pointy nosed shortboard.
You should try the Hydroshort Squash! facelick Its very similar to an SKX but has a rounded nose.

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But I can make others boards work better with fin design . And have for a Very long time .

No podcast back then - thats why this is all new to you bricks


Greg, I already wrote David Lee Scales on instagram and sent him your instagram handle. Provided greggriffinsurfboards is you smile But I would really like to hear you on his podcast. Lee Scales often says he doesn't understand fins and is overwhelmed by fins. His podcast with Pat Rawson just touched on them a bit and Rawson saying they made 7 fin boards even. You gotta get on there and explain to people how much fins effect a board. Give some basics on what makes a fin work and why. All Rawson did was reference fin manufacturers weight charts, heavier guy needs bigger fin.

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Retodd needs to do a primer on fins. Same coast as David.

And retodds hand shaped pointy nose Tomo was the best one that Ive ridden. No pearling trying to pump dtl.


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Is this pearling thing a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist?

I will say that I like and understand his newer noses better. They're not so extreme.


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Daniel has had a huge effect on several markets , surfboards , SUP and Kiteboard .

Kite boards started with Wake boards , Daniels trademark look , then went to shortboard designs then rediscovered the wakeboard look again thru Daniels success = fun to watch .

Hopefully this doesn't get spun around as some negative comment .

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But when a nose is pointy and catches or penetrates the water and causes the rider to fall, cutting off the nose or rounding off the nose will "techincally" improve the design.


Wat?

BTW, I once broke the nose off of a board (Channel Islands boards had a habit of that) and just kept surfing it. There were no down sides to it and the up side was more snappy turns due to less swing weight. Thats when I realized that, in some cases much of the nose volume is superfluous in regards to paddling and catching waves.

Thats when I bought a Pod and since then have ridden pointy nosed boards only in large to very large surf.


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Originally Posted By: ghostshaper
Retodd needs to do a primer on fins. Same coast as David.

And retodds hand shaped pointy nose Tomo was the best one that Ive ridden. No pearling trying to pump dtl.


My opinion only here but I think a boards tendency to pearl has more to do (other than rider error) whats under the chest rather that the shape of the nose.

Ya know, volume, width, rocker, concave....

Also tail rocker/width may play a role, particularly in steep waves.

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Originally Posted By: deforest
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I enjoyed the conversation, except when they would talk over one another.

But there was a big missed opportunity on Scotts part here when you compare this episode to the general theme of past episodes - US board builders vs. imported boards.

I wish Scott would have asked Tomo what he thought about Dennis Jarvis' campaign to put a tariff on imported boards or what Dan thought about the protectionist attitude of Built in the US or Australia and if that was ever a consideration when signing with Firewire. Would have been interesting to hear his perspective.
I felt the same way. I actually was listening and almost anticipating Bassy asking the question... but it never happened. I even messaged Scott and told him that I was surprised he didnt ask Tomo about that. Scott said "maybe I should have; but sorta feel like that topic has been excavated thoroughly." I felt the same and I felt like the overall theme of the interview was about Tomos success and focused on positive things, so asking Tomo about imports and tariffs probably wouldnt have contributed anything positive to the interview. I think that topic generates a lot of negative energy and draws a line in surfing that really isnt productive to anyone in the big scheme of things. Its a difficult situation and tarriffs dont seem to be the proper avenue for positive or even effective change. But i agree it would have been interesting to hear his perspective. Maybe a part 2 with Bassy???

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Haven't listened yet. Still scratching my through the splendor podcast with Hynd.

Dang, you should have posted this in my thread:


https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2892114#Post2892114

I wish tomo made more pointy nose shortboards. I just still can't get over the chopped nose.



Dude. SKX is an epic pointy nosed shortboard.
You should try the Hydroshort Squash! facelick Its very similar to an SKX but has a rounded nose.


I know!

I saw someone say the two were quite similar over on the Japanese XTR website you posted elsewhere.

That Japanese site is way better than their US site. Way more detailed info.


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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
I wish he still made his twins. Thats still the most interesting designs hes made in my opinion


El Tomo

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Tried looking at their website but didn't find the available info. Does anyone know when the boardroom show will be in Japan?
May 17 & 18


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Yeah... Japanese site has a lot of info! When its translated, it almost sounds like some of the information is coming from Daniel??

You have had some of the best luck with boards JKB! That green El Tomo went super good! So did your Hydronaut squash tail and your Evo! I dont know if you get the magic dims or what... but all yours boards have been really good!

Did you hear on the podcast that Tomo is going to be doing hand-finished customs in AUS? I think he said on the podcast that he was going to be starting up a website with a list of current shapes he's going to be doing. Pretty curious to see what he's gonna be offering!


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Retodd needs to do a primer on fins. Same coast as David.

And retodds hand shaped pointy nose Tomo was the best one that Ive ridden. No pearling trying to pump dtl.


My opinion only here but I think a boards tendency to pearl has more to do (other than rider error) whats under the chest rather that the shape of the nose.

Ya know, volume, width, rocker, concave....

Also tail rocker/width may play a role, particularly in steep waves.


My problem w chopped noses is pearling while pumping dtl, not dropping in... Although I took out a Tomo cyber sim in shoulder high steep beachbreaks, and watched water shoot over the squared nose while dropping in. A regular nose wouldve knifed into the face.


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Did you hear on the podcast that Tomo is going to be doing hand-finished customs in AUS? I think he said on the podcast that he was going to be starting up a website with a list of current shapes he's going to be doing. Pretty curious to see what he's gonna be offering!


Yeah, I remember him mentioning this in the Tomo thread a while ago. Definitely curious to see what he comes up with, but I was disappointed to hear it's going to be model based only.

I asked him if he'd consider doing a mash-up board with the outline of the hydrosquash and the rocker of the GMM2. He said no bawling


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Did you hear on the podcast that Tomo is going to be doing hand-finished customs in AUS? I think he said on the podcast that he was going to be starting up a website with a list of current shapes he's going to be doing. Pretty curious to see what he's gonna be offering!


Yeah, I remember him mentioning this in the Tomo thread a while ago. Definitely curious to see what he comes up with, but I was disappointed to hear it's going to be model based only.

I asked him if he'd consider doing a mash-up board with the outline of the hydrosquash and the rocker of the GMM2. He said no bawling
I know... i wish I could order a mash-up as well. My favorite designs thus far have been the Vader, Cymatic, and Hydronaut. So I want to mix those together and see how it goes. A Hydronaut nose, Vader tail/outline, and Cymatic bottom (rocker and hull design). I think that would be an epic board! If I try and shape one it will be like that.


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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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cutting off the nose or rounding off the nose will "techincally" improve the design.

There were no down sides to it and the up side was more snappy turns due to less swing weight.
Would you say that not having a pointy nose improved the boards performance?


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Retodd needs to do a primer on fins. Same coast as David.

And retodds hand shaped pointy nose Tomo was the best one that Ive ridden. No pearling trying to pump dtl.


My opinion only here but I think a boards tendency to pearl has more to do (other than rider error) whats under the chest rather that the shape of the nose.

Ya know, volume, width, rocker, concave....

Also tail rocker/width may play a role, particularly in steep waves.


My problem w chopped noses is pearling while pumping dtl, not dropping in... Although I took out a Tomo cyber sim in shoulder high steep beachbreaks, and watched water shoot over the squared nose while dropping in. A regular nose wouldve knifed into the face.


Well Im not riding chopped noses. Mine are round.


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cutting off the nose or rounding off the nose will "techincally" improve the design.

There were no down sides to it and the up side was more snappy turns due to less swing weight.
Would you say that not having a pointy nose improved the boards performance?


I think it depends.

I personally prefer pointy noses when Im in bigger hollow surf. I have a round nose board (58) that I love but I also have the same board but with a pointy nose (64) and find that that one works better when its big and juicy.

And Im talking the wave riding aspect, not the catching waves part.

But I feel like (and people have told me) that I surf better in smaller (less than DOH) surf on my round noses.


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Yeah, pretty good interview. Interesting to hear how he went from outline to tails to channels and now focused on noses. In terms of aesthetics, I agree with what he said about the Hydronaut; it really is a beautiful board. Also, pretty cool to hear him talk about revisiting old boards, and mentioning the Vader in particular which is still his all-time best board, I think.

Bassy ain't as good as David Lee Scales when it comes to interviewing, but I think that's a personality thing. David is a more gracious host and a more thoughtful listener; he really lets the people he's interviewing do the talking. Bassy usually wants to get them talking about Jesus or something, and that gets oooooooold fast!



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Yeah, pretty good interview. Interesting to hear how he went from outline to tails to channels and now focused on noses. In terms of aesthetics, I agree with what he said about the Hydronaut; it really is a beautiful board. Also, pretty cool to hear him talk about revisiting old boards, and mentioning the Vader in particular which is still his all-time best board, I think.

Bassy ain't as good as David Lee Scales when it comes to interviewing, but I think that's a personality thing. David is a more gracious host and a more thoughtful listener; he really lets the people he's interviewing do the talking. Bassy usually wants to get them talking about Jesus or something, and that gets oooooooold fast!



He seemed to rave a bit more about the Evo. Said he's been surfing it a lot in junk waves in Oz. Said it's like cheating.

Re: Bass vs Scales. I whole heartedly disagree. Been listening to these for years and Scales goes for a more NPR style and a diplomatic approach. It's tedious and stale. Is guilty of hushing and admonishing Bass whenever things are just about to get interesting. He seems much more scared of pissing off the industry. That's NOT what we want! Too many people suckling on the industry teats to say whats really going on or what they actually think about something. Bass has been podcasting for a really long time. I like his loose and fast approach. When he does his homework, he's far superior. Bass is the strider to Scales Turdpel.
If I want NPR, there are a ton of others doing that better.

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Both do that cheesdick stuff but I think overall they both do a great job. I just love listening to the characters they interview. I'm typing this as Derek Hynd is talking about his eye surgery.

Wait, why am I posting this here?


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Yeah, pretty good interview. Interesting to hear how he went from outline to tails to channels and now focused on noses. In terms of aesthetics, I agree with what he said about the Hydronaut; it really is a beautiful board. Also, pretty cool to hear him talk about revisiting old boards, and mentioning the Vader in particular which is still his all-time best board, I think.

Bassy ain't as good as David Lee Scales when it comes to interviewing, but I think that's a personality thing. David is a more gracious host and a more thoughtful listener; he really lets the people he's interviewing do the talking. Bassy usually wants to get them talking about Jesus or something, and that gets oooooooold fast!



He seemed to rave a bit more about the Evo. Said he's been surfing it a lot in junk waves in Oz. Said it's like cheating.

Re: Bass vs Scales. I whole heartedly disagree. Been listening to these for years and Scales goes for a more NPR style and a diplomatic approach. It's tedious and stale. Is guilty of hushing and admonishing Bass whenever things are just about to get interesting. He seems much more scared of pissing off the industry. That's NOT what we want! Too many people suckling on the industry teats to say whats really going on or what they actually think about something. Bass has been podcasting for a really long time. I like his loose and fast approach. When he does his homework, he's far superior. Bass is the strider to Scales Turdpel.
If I want NPR, there are a ton of others doing that better.


Fair enough, but I totally disagree with your description of their styles! I think Bass panders MUCH more to the people he's interviewing. He's the one who is sucking titty. Scales is a much more intelligent interviewer because his questions open up the guests. Then, depending on the guest, it gets really interesting. I've been listening to the podcasts for a few years too. At first, Scales was way to verbose and tried to explain everything, but now he's much smoother. Whereas Bass is just saying what is in his head, then backtracks when he realises he just said something dumb. Both good though. Both compliment each other well when they're together because they're so different.

I'm saying Bass is Kaipo to Scales' Ronnie Blakey.

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I'm saying Bass is Kaipo to Scales' Ronnie Blakey.


LOL. Touche

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Tried looking at their website but didn't find the available info. Does anyone know when the boardroom show will be in Japan?
May 17 & 18


Thanks Deforest!

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Yeah, pretty good interview. Interesting to hear how he went from outline to tails to channels and now focused on noses. In terms of aesthetics, I agree with what he said about the Hydronaut; it really is a beautiful board. Also, pretty cool to hear him talk about revisiting old boards, and mentioning the Vader in particular which is still his all-time best board, I think.

Bassy ain't as good as David Lee Scales when it comes to interviewing, but I think that's a personality thing. David is a more gracious host and a more thoughtful listener; he really lets the people he's interviewing do the talking. Bassy usually wants to get them talking about Jesus or something, and that gets oooooooold fast!



He seemed to rave a bit more about the Evo. Said he's been surfing it a lot in junk waves in Oz. Said it's like cheating.

Re: Bass vs Scales. I whole heartedly disagree. Been listening to these for years and Scales goes for a more NPR style and a diplomatic approach. It's tedious and stale. Is guilty of hushing and admonishing Bass whenever things are just about to get interesting. He seems much more scared of pissing off the industry. That's NOT what we want! Too many people suckling on the industry teats to say whats really going on or what they actually think about something. Bass has been podcasting for a really long time. I like his loose and fast approach. When he does his homework, he's far superior. Bass is the strider to Scales Turdpel.
If I want NPR, there are a ton of others doing that better.


Fair enough, but I totally disagree with your description of their styles! I think Bass panders MUCH more to the people he's interviewing. He's the one who is sucking titty. Scales is a much more intelligent interviewer because his questions open up the guests. Then, depending on the guest, it gets really interesting. I've been listening to the podcasts for a few years too. At first, Scales was way to verbose and tried to explain everything, but now he's much smoother. Whereas Bass is just saying what is in his head, then backtracks when he realises he just said something dumb. Both good though. Both compliment each other well when they're together because they're so different.

I'm saying Bass is Kaipo to Scales' Ronnie Blakey.

UP THE SWELLIANS!
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I like Bassys approach. Havent really click with DLS but Ill start giving that podcast a listen.
Has anyone seen Bassy surf? I heard he rips.


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He's not an aggro pro, but has a really smooth style. Legit surfer.


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I listened to the podcast again and noticed 2nd time around that Tomo mentioned how he hand shaped for a long time during his apprenticeship and made templates and outlines by hand. He also talked about glassing his own boards and sanding them under trees in AUS. haha. With no masks. And bailing buckets of water out of the shaping room because it would flood from the rain. ha.

I think he elaborated on that a little bit, possibly due to the convos on here about his hand shaping?

He also talked about Greenough not being a surfer (another subject that was touched on in this forum) and how the powerdrive fins were developed by Tomo and his Dad.

I thought those subjects were interesting given that we talked about them here on the forum.


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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?

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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


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Greenough the Kneeboarder was the Design Inspiration for Wilderness surfboards

Al Merrick admired their boards and they were a big influence on him in the early 70's .


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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
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Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.


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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.


I will admit to not knowing Greenough started his life as a waterman standing up, but yes documented here https://www.insidesport.com.au/news/george-greenough-a-true-pioneer-of-surfing-422149 and http://www.weekendhippie.com/weekend-hippie-stories/2016/6/19/in-the-greenough-room-george-greenough

both nice articles and although Greenough was on his knees or prone by the time he gained worldwide recognition a huge influence on standup shortboard riding nevertheless.

I haven't listened to the podcast yet, so not dissing anyone in any way whatsoever, but the subject of kneeboarder's influence on surfing is interesting. Steve Lis kneeboarder, the seed for Reno Abilliera's "semi performance twin" (my words), which in turn the seed for Mark Richard's performance twin http://markrichardssurfboards.com/blog/2012/05/the-bumblebee-flies-in/

MR performance twin fin positions were the starting point for the front fins of Simon Anderson's Bells winning revolutionary thruster design as documented in Anderson's excellent biography "Thrust". I bought this book, a lovely "coffee table book" with nice pictures and an interesting and enthralling account of Anderson's career as pro surfer and surfboard shaper to date (although skipped the BASE drama which must have been painful).

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I listened to the podcast again and noticed 2nd time around that Tomo mentioned how he hand shaped for a long time during his apprenticeship and made templates and outlines by hand. He also talked about glassing his own boards and sanding them under trees in AUS. haha. With no masks. And bailing buckets of water out of the shaping room because it would flood from the rain. ha.

I think he elaborated on that a little bit, possibly due to the convos on here about his hand shaping?


Yeah, I could feel a slight prickliness regarding that part. It was like he really wanted it known that he was core. Fair enough. If I was a genius, I'd get pissed with a bunch of internet nerds talking shit about me and it getting passed around as gospel.


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Christian Bradley is not embasresd or " Prickly" about his Handshaping very few .

Its a non issue today .

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Talking Handshaping a few over 10 - 15 years could piss shapers off who handshaped 1,000's for a real living supporting themselves and thier families if they had .

Not easy work , involves constant improvement , and expense .

Again a non issue in todays surfboard world .

Some of the machine cutters i've used have become very good board builders - never handshaping .

GWS would do well with his experience and he wouldn't even have to finish them dancing

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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.


Hes got some beef with Greenough for some reason.

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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.


Hes got some beef with Greenough for some reason.


he's got beef with everyone who isnt Dan or Mark Tomo. that beef is from his ignorance. and hes not shy from putting his ignorance on display. which is why hes an idiot. when hes finished he'll have crapped on everyone in the book. hey defraud did ya ever order that board from your buddy Timmy patterson??????????

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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
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Hey... Im just trying to get to the bottom of this... Im a seeker of truth! I got no beef with Greenough. From what i've heard and read he was a brilliant inventor and genius waterman who hugely influenced surfing. I just want to debate this issue in a reputable forum. Maybe even set the record straight.

Did George stand up or what??

The 2 links that Mr. J posted both say that George was NOT a stand up surfer... he was a knee boarder and matsurfer.

This is an excerpt from the article in the 1st link:
{He haunted the beautiful terrain and surfed the immaculate waves of Hollister Ranch, but was never a fan of stand-up surfing. The last time he stood on a board was 1961.}

This is an excerpt from the article in the 2nd link:
{By his early teens, Greenough (pronounced greeno) himself had already abandoned traditional surfing in place of kneeboarding and soft mat-riding, two sports few others were participating in at that time. "I really never liked the longboard, it had no flexibility or spontaneity," recalled Greenough from his home near Byron Bay, Australia.}

{George was the clubs only non-surfing member. He never stood up on his board, he never cut or even combed his hair, and always was a bit disheveled, but he was a very inventive guy, and certainly a great waterman. Arlen Knight, Santa Barbara}


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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.


Hes got some beef with Greenough for some reason.


he's got beef with everyone who isnt Dan or Mark Tomo. that beef is from his ignorance. and hes not shy from putting his ignorance on display. which is why hes an idiot. when hes finished he'll have crapped on everyone in the book. hey defraud did ya ever order that board from your buddy Timmy patterson??????????
Yup! I sure did. I rode the Italo Ferreira Pool Party model. Ask Timmy or Scott about it. They helped me out with the board!


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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
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Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.
You got any proof?


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"the clubs only non-surfing member. He never stood up on his board,"

The person who wrote this is an IDIOT

Soo much documentation of George surfing waves = SURFER

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I was told GG went to knee riding so he could get more toobs
Essentially ride the lowest volume board possible and swim into waves with giant swim fins

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Originally Posted By: deforest
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: deforest
Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Greenough not being a surfer

What was he ?
windsurfer and kneeboarder.


Come the fvck on already foreheadslap crazy2 roflmao

Greenough was stand up surfing decades ago prior to riding kneeboards.

You're trolling again.
You got any proof?


There's either one of two things going on:

A)You don't know the readily available facts... yet have decided to make authoritative statements on a subject.

or

B)You're trolling by stating information you know is false.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and hoping it's option B.


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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
"the clubs only non-surfing member. He never stood up on his board,"

The person who wrote this is an IDIOT

Soo much documentation of George surfing waves = SURFER


Yes.

a) The man spent his early years standing up on surfboard and surfed = SURFER.
b) The man spent many years riding kneeboards and spoons and ripping on them = SURFER
c) The man lived and breathed surfing lived and in his car and the bush all around Australia through the 1960s surfing = SURFER
d) Riding kneeboards = SURFING. If there's any doubt in anyone's mind it's because of the bubble they live in. There is plenty of documentation of kneeboarding's glory days in old isssues of ER and ING (as if that matters but the images are great). And a kneeboarder ripping a good wave is a beautiful thing to behold.

I could go on but I'll stop there.


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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
"the clubs only non-surfing member. He never stood up on his board,"

The person who wrote this is an IDIOT

Soo much documentation of George surfing waves = SURFER
From what i could find, that article was written by either Mike or Kerry who run the website that is called "Weekend Hippie" that posted the article. They are a Santa Barbara couple. The quote they used (which you're referring to) was by a man named Arlen Knight from Santa Barbara, and oddly enough the internet shows there was a census done in 1940 that shows a boy named Arlen Knight who was 11 in 1940 that lived at 1000 San Diego Rd., Santa Barbara, CA 93103. Which means this kid would have been around the same age as Greenough in the late 50's early 60's (maybe a little older).

Seems legit??


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who was 11 in 1940

11 years + 79 more = drowning

Sounds LEGIT !!!! dancing

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Originally Posted By: deforest
Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
"the clubs only non-surfing member. He never stood up on his board,"

The person who wrote this is an IDIOT

Soo much documentation of George surfing waves = SURFER
From what i could find, that article was written by either Mike or Kerry who run the website that is called "Weekend Hippie" that posted the article. They are a Santa Barbara couple. The quote they used (which you're referring to) was by a man named Arlen Knight from Santa Barbara, and oddly enough the internet shows there was a census done in 1940 that shows a boy named Arlen Knight who was 11 in 1940 that lived at 1000 San Diego Rd., Santa Barbara, CA 93103. Which means this kid would have been around the same age as Greenough in the late 50's early 60's (maybe a little older).

Seems legit??


I will take Matt Warshaw's word.

I will take Greenough's word.

I will take the image of him as a child with a surfboard as evidence as well.


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And I will reiterate.

Even if he had never stood up - despite the fact we know he DID stand up - and wouldn't matter.

He is/was a surfer, more than 99% of people on this forum will ever be surfers.

You should watch "The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun" It is full of pure unadulterated surfing and culture the way things used to be when it seems they were a while lot better. Then watch "Crystal Voyager" for a little glimpse into George's life.

Amazing humans that existed before Instagram, the WSL, Kelly's pool, and all the other bullshit.


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You guys are wasting your breath.

When you've taken up surfing in the last 5 years or so, and you wanna argue b/c you read it on the interwebz, then you have this place. #adultlearner #kookstoke


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Crystal Voyager will always be one of the greatest surf films ever made. I remember watching it as a kid in my bodyboarding days and thinking, "I wanna get some of those!"


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