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#2895250 - 01/07/19 06:49 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: StuAzole]
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Tracking law breaking immigrants mostly, but others get caught in the melee, too.

Too bad if they hang out with the wrong type of illegals (gangs, drug dealers, human traffic, etc;).


Specifically, they were set up to target criminal enterprises that engaged in cross-border crime.

The complaints coming from inside ICE are that they can't do the job they were tasked to do, because they're chasing around less threatening individuals.

Do you feel safer knowing that?


If it saves the life of one cop, innocent citizen or other illegal immigrant, yes.

I'm sure many busts that were considered "more threatening" produced leads to others potentially as threatening, but maybe not quite as much. So what? lllegal immigrant teens don't all start out "bad" but if sucked into a notorious gang, say MS-13 for instance, they could eventually become ruthless cop killers or threats to their own community.

My community is basically fine (but problems exist not many miles away), but does that make those in their communities feel safe?
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#2895255 - 01/07/19 06:58 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: Surfdog]
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Tracking law breaking immigrants mostly, but others get caught in the melee, too.

Too bad if they hang out with the wrong type of illegals (gangs, drug dealers, human traffic, etc;).


Specifically, they were set up to target criminal enterprises that engaged in cross-border crime.

The complaints coming from inside ICE are that they can't do the job they were tasked to do, because they're chasing around less threatening individuals.

Do you feel safer knowing that?


If it saves the life of one cop, innocent citizen or other illegal immigrant, yes.

I'm sure many busts that were considered "more threatening" produced leads to others potentially as threatening, but maybe not quite as much. So what? lllegal immigrant teens don't all start out "bad" but if sucked into a notorious gang, say MS-13 for instance, they could eventually become ruthless cop killers or threats to their own community.

My community is basically fine (but problems exist not many miles away), but does that make those in their communities feel safe?


LOL. You can ignore anything that doesn't fit your viewpoint, can't you?

The studies are showing that you're safer in a sanctuary area. That's the link I posted. And your response is "well, I don't care because I'd rather save one person who might be killed by an illegal alien"? In other words, you'll trade some crime at the hands of an illegal for more crime, because maybe it won't be at the hands of an illegal?

Brilliant.
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#2895264 - 01/07/19 07:09 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: StuAzole]
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There's a "survey" or "study" for everything.......

>>uc-riverside-study-confirms-sanctuaries-not-safer-other-cities <<
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#2895267 - 01/07/19 07:20 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: Surfdog]
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<div class="tenor-gif-embed" data-postid="10525499" data-share-method="host" data-width="100%" data-aspect-ratio="1.7913669064748199"><a href="https://tenor.com/view/survey-says-gif-10525499">Survey Says GIF</a> from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/surveysays-gifs">Surveysays GIFs</a></div><script type="text/javascript" async src="https://tenor.com/embed.js"></script>

There's a "survey" for everything.......

>>uc-riverside-study-confirms-sanctuaries-not-safer-other-cities <<


OK, let's take that one too (even though it is more limited to violent crime rather than crime as a whole). It shows no statistically significant difference in crime levels.

So tell me again why you want to spend your city/state's time, money and resources on immigration cooperation? If the additional costs associated with cooperation don't result in any difference in crime levels, why would you incur the additional costs?

Put another way - you have two choices for an investment. You can invest $10 and get $15 back in 12 months OR you can invest $20 and get $15 in 12 months. Even a guy who doesn't appreciate that .18 = 18% can do this math, right?
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#2895496 - 01/08/19 12:09 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: StuAzole]
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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
<div class="tenor-gif-embed" data-postid="10525499" data-share-method="host" data-width="100%" data-aspect-ratio="1.7913669064748199"><a href="https://tenor.com/view/survey-says-gif-10525499">Survey Says GIF</a> from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/surveysays-gifs">Surveysays GIFs</a></div><script type="text/javascript" async src="https://tenor.com/embed.js"></script>

There's a "survey" for everything.......

>>uc-riverside-study-confirms-sanctuaries-not-safer-other-cities <<


OK, let's take that one too (even though it is more limited to violent crime rather than crime as a whole). It shows no statistically significant difference in crime levels.

So tell me again why you want to spend your city/state's time, money and resources on immigration cooperation? If the additional costs associated with cooperation don't result in any difference in crime levels, why would you incur the additional costs?

Put another way - you have two choices for an investment. You can invest $10 and get $15 back in 12 months OR you can invest $20 and get $15 in 12 months. Even a guy who doesn't appreciate that .18 = 18% can do this math, right?


Ya, I guess the money saved makes up for all those needless murders, robberies, rapes, and child molesters that could've been reduced, or even never happened. Sounds like validation of a typical California state guv trade-off. rolleyes
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#2895498 - 01/08/19 12:11 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: Surfdog]
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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
<div class="tenor-gif-embed" data-postid="10525499" data-share-method="host" data-width="100%" data-aspect-ratio="1.7913669064748199"><a href="https://tenor.com/view/survey-says-gif-10525499">Survey Says GIF</a> from <a href="https://tenor.com/search/surveysays-gifs">Surveysays GIFs</a></div><script type="text/javascript" async src="https://tenor.com/embed.js"></script>

There's a "survey" for everything.......

>>uc-riverside-study-confirms-sanctuaries-not-safer-other-cities <<


OK, let's take that one too (even though it is more limited to violent crime rather than crime as a whole). It shows no statistically significant difference in crime levels.

So tell me again why you want to spend your city/state's time, money and resources on immigration cooperation? If the additional costs associated with cooperation don't result in any difference in crime levels, why would you incur the additional costs?

Put another way - you have two choices for an investment. You can invest $10 and get $15 back in 12 months OR you can invest $20 and get $15 in 12 months. Even a guy who doesn't appreciate that .18 = 18% can do this math, right?


Ya, I guess the money saved makes up for all those needless murders, robberies, rapes, and child molesters that could've been reduced, or even never happened. Sounds like validation of a typical California state guv trade-off. rolleyes


You just showed me there's no difference in crime rates. And then you jump into all these bad things that will happen without cooperation. But it's the same. You're operating 100% on feelz now.
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#2895871 - 01/09/19 07:14 AM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: Wheelhouse]
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#2895958 - 01/09/19 11:15 AM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: GromsDad]
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Did he kill more or fewer people than David Long?
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#2895964 - 01/09/19 11:19 AM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: GromsDad]
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Good question!

Gun has a serial number - who was it originally registered to?


Edited by Kento (01/09/19 11:19 AM)
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#2896877 - 01/11/19 03:06 PM Re: California Cop Killer Caught - [Re: Wheelhouse]
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Another California cop was shot and killed last night. This time by a white male...

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The gunman had been described as a white man in his 20s, wearing a baseball cap, black jacket, jeans and black tactical boots, UC Davis officials wrote in an emergency alert to students.


https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Police-officer-shot-in-downtown-Davis-suspect-13525495.php



Wonder why there's no thread about this one? socrazy
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