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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2896895
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Shaping for the big Hawaiian labels in the 90's and early 00's, were you shaping the kind of designs that you wanted to make or were you shaping glass slipper style boards because that's what the label wanted you to do?


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: jkb] #2896905
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93 - 94 I worked for Glen Minami at Blue Hawaii , super thin big concave and rocker was in - Al Merrick clones . This was the only time I made these , Glen was happy .


jkb that George guy in my parents backyard was the World Champ then ;-)

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You must have been shaking your head when making some of those thin rockered out boards.

Thanks for answering my questions. Seeing that winged board of yours made me realize I didn't know much about how you started shaping and how it eventually developed into your own label.

Is that George Foreman?


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Yes its George Foreman

For Japan Glen had us use white PVC stringers - I have no idea why and they were very flexible .

I made a 6'6" x 18 1/4" x 2 5/16" 5 fin demo which had 2 3/8" tail rocker and flat bottom instead of single concave and 2 3/4" rocker of that time .

The morning crew at Lanis just kept saying " It just keeps going ! " Good fun .

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Would shapers (like Glen) ride one of your shapes before he'd hire you or was it more about having you shape something to his specs and then examining the finished product?


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Glen needed a shaper for his new Blue Hawaii label in 1984

He tried a few then Gavin Hasgawa suggested myself .

I watched him shape one and brought back a copy , Glen's response was " How'd yu do that !

I got the same response in 1993 with Glen and Bobby Owens in the room inspecting my trial board the next time I worked for him .

I gave Wade Tokoro and Don Johnston that 6'6" 5 fin demo to ride - both liked it .

It was a fun time .

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That's awesome!


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2905781
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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Glen needed a shaper for his new Blue Hawaii label in 1984

He tried a few then Gavin Hasgawa suggested myself .

I watched him shape one and brought back a copy , Glen's response was " How'd yu do that !

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Awesome.

My turn to ask the shaper smile

Did you also take measurements of the board or just literally watch and copy? You don't strike me as a shaper who just wings it.

Another question. Computer shaping has largely replaced the need for a rocker stick and to keep a written log of things such as rocker measurements. However, you have been shaping long before the machine, so did you keep a log book of rocker measurements for your different designs and custom boards to refer to? If so do you still have this book and refer to it?

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Glens design at the time seemed to me to be a Hawaiian version of McCoy .

Needle nose with double hard wing rather than soft with a bottom Brewer used in the 70's which I was familiar with .

I think McCoy has forgotten he used this bottom shrug

It wasn't hard too to recreate it .

I did not keep written records , I was able to remember all the numbers I used for them .

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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Glens design at the time seemed to me to be a Hawaiian version of McCoy .

Needle nose with double hard wing rather than soft with a bottom Brewer used in the 70's which I was familiar with .

I think McCoy has forgotten he used this bottom shrug

It wasn't hard too to recreate it .

I did not keep written records , I was able to remember all the numbers I used for them .


Honestly, I thought you might say that! I have said this before on the forum that you appear to have a photographic memory.

Regarding McCoy's bottom being a version of Brewer's I think we both take the view that there is a lot of reworking of others designs and relabelling. Sometimes the rework is a copy or "inspired" sometimes its a type of "synchronicity" i.e when something is discovered in one part of the world there is an increasing chance that the same thing will be discovered in another part of the world even without direct communication. Nothing necessarily mysterious about that - when the circumstances are favourable to a new concept, it is possible that more than one person may stumble across it.


It came later, but I've been all over the McCoy Nugget's "Loaded Dome" with a straight edge and rocker stick. Essentially its just belly to panel V, but the label gives it a more mysterious appeal. I am not criticising this board though, clever design for someone who doesn't require quick rail to rail responsiveness and tends more towards big planned in advance turns.

Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2906311
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haven't seen a felix tail keel/5 fin in a while
Still have mine and Cyril's in new shape
is that design dead on the mainland
it seemed to work well at my home breaks (haubush/white plains) which about as mainland style a wave as you can get over here.
What happened?
Too Weird?


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: oneula] #2906333
01/31/19 12:53 AM
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Lots of interest in the Felix tail Hovercraft

Shipping one as part of a 3 board order this week

To be ridden as a Twinzer or Tri Fin


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I was wondering about that mini sims on steroids
cause its a good design
especially for most mainland continental shelf waves


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Reese on his Hovercraft

Lots of speed on almost nothing dancing



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