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Custom for Reese #2884765
12/08/18 12:46 PM
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5'10" x 21" x 2 7/8" Modern Fish 5 fin

Created in Hawaii

Made in Florida






Rocker and Foil shot



Rail Line Shot








Custom made , designed ,sized and placed fins



Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2884773
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I thought you're supposed to put a box of donuts on your board for the rocker shot?

Also, are your boards designed to be ridden with all 5 fins in at the same time? Always wondered...


The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears or the sea.
Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Goodfish] #2884785
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"Also, are your boards designed to be ridden with all 5 fins in at the same time? Always wondered..."

This can't be real drowning

Yes these have been ridden with 5 fins for the last 30 years wave2

Donuts don't make it of the house alive ....

Late 80's T&C Team board


Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2884953
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Was a real question! Wasn't sure if they were just all put in to show off your fins. Thanks for answering.


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Goodfish] #2884954
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I knew it was

A bit surprising after 12 + years posting them here :-)



Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2886575
12/12/18 10:10 PM
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First day Bottom Turn by this Fireman


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2886742
12/13/18 05:08 AM
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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2886775
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that's a great shot, we've had a great run of waves lately imo
he's super stoked on your boards GG


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Re: Custom for Reese [Re: WarrenC] #2886782
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He was riding his Liddle hull the day before so this was a big leap .

Not fully adjusted but has some great clips showing the abnormal speed and lift .

Contrary to Mr.J concepts wave2

Notice the distance of the non deflected flow of water - Flat Bottom - :




Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2890184
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great looking board!


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Reese today , his second day finding what's there ;-)



Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2890433
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Sweet! Another stoked customer who seems to have it dialed.

Curious Greg, do you miss Hawaii a bit? Big change in culture, weather and surf...

Re: Custom for Reese [Re: john4surf] #2890445
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Yes I do
On a cruise ship to Mexico with my wife and her family for christmas right now .

More later wave2

Re: Custom for Reese [Re: Greg Griffin] #2890974
12/25/18 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
He was riding his Liddle hull the day before so this was a big leap .

Not fully adjusted but has some great clips showing the abnormal speed and lift .

Contrary to Mr.J concepts wave2

Notice the distance of the non deflected flow of water - Flat Bottom - :
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Merry Christmas Greg wave2 may we enjoy many more years of this online design sparring. Before I deliver my response, I must say that is a great looking bottom turn.

We use different language to describe design and I ride concave bottoms whereas you keep your customers happy on flat bottoms, despite this we agree in principle on just about everything. The only point of complete disagreement that I can remember is on a rail design thread - I said a rail resembling the hard edge of a water ski will grip better than a HP downrail - you believed otherwise.

So that's a slight change of tack for you to suggest more lift from flat than concave, both using your explanation that the concave claws at water running up the face of the wave and my favoured description that water flow turned downwards causes Newtonian force upwards would say that there is more lift from the concave hull. I thought your previous point was that the flat bottom presented less of an obstacle to free water flow - and you do have a point there.


Anyway I am looking at the non deflected water, so is that your point? i.e the flat bottom doesn't deflect water and therefore allows more free flow? By non deflected water I take it to be the water that is being sprayed from the water - actually being left behind as the board moves forward. In the speedboat world that spray is called the "whisker spray", studies have shown that the whisker spray contributes nothing to lift, but it does account for a significant amount of drag

So it could be argued that this pic on the front footed/back footed thread which would almost certainly be a concaved hull is demonstrating more efficiency, because whisker spray is absent.

https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2887591#Post2887591

Although you have used the term efficiency before I really don't think efficiency is a word that belongs in a discussion on surfboard performance. We are after all just chasing a feeling, not a measurable result. Reese is happy on your design and the whisker spray is a demonstration of power applied to the turn rather than in indication of efficiency or lack of it. You have a happy customer, you win wave2

One question I have for you, which you are under no obligation to answer is do you carry the flat bottom right to the end of the tail? Or do you add some V? Just so that this isn't considered a trick question I will say up front that currently I don't believe in the V in the tail - at least not panel V. Its a lift killer. So is high tail rocker, but tail rocker with concave gets us back that lift in certain turn situations. Flat in the tail is good too.

http://www.aeromarineresearch.com/whisker_spray_drag.html

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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
Yes I do
On a cruise ship to Mexico with my wife and her family for christmas right now .

More later wave2


Flying 11 family members to Sayulita for a week. Enjoy the cruise!

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