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Sounds like Pooty is about to make his “big move” in Ukraine. Trump gonna do anything about it?

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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

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Originally Posted By: test_article
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


My entire existence is a failed gotcha
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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


I support the draft. When it was my turn I reported.

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Originally Posted By: test_article
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


I support the draft. When it was my turn I reported.

That didn't answer my question; we all had to report to Selective Service

but in that case would you sacrifice your kids or grandkids for Kiev?


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


I support the draft. When it was my turn I reported.

That didn't answer my question; we all had to report to Selective Service

but in that case would you sacrifice your kids or grandkids for Kiev?


A fight not joined is a fight not enjoyed. I would leave it to my kids or grandkids to decide their own response. Both of my sons are Marines. My daughter OTOH would give the enemy the following address: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, DC.

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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


Is all-our wat the only possible response?

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wat, wat is it good for?


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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


Is all-our wat the only possible response?


Probably not, but WWDTD? I remember Donnie BooBoo condemning Merkel for the Russia gas pipeline, but he was probably just promoting U.S. LNG.

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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


Is all-our wat the only possible response?

Any meddling in other countries' business needs to be looked at through the lens of war and death since that is the ultimate response.


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It would be immoral for the US to do anything about it.

This is not our problem.


...until it is.

Until there are Russian troops on OUR border this is not our issue

Are you willing to die for Odessa?


Is all-our wat the only possible response?

Any meddling in other countries' business needs to be looked at through the lens of war and death since that is the ultimate response.


Okay John Bolton Jr. rolleyes

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What value should a country expect as an ally of the U.S.? I suppose the U.S. could park a couple/three naval vessels on the Ukraine side of the Sea of Azov, but Russia may be attempting to annex it.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article222179165.html

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So what is the appropriate response to putin?

Doesn't the US have obligations as a member of NATO?


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This doesn't look like a big move to me, it looks like a minor dustup in the midst of an ongoing conflict. I think Russia have already achieved their strategic goals in Ukraine. They already shoplifted Crimea and have tied up the eastern border with minimal commitment on their part. I seriously doubt Putin wants to invade Ukraine. Could totally see him being a prick about access to the sea of Azov, but we knew that was coming once he made the play for Crimea.

I doubt Trump will do anything overt to address this.

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