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The federal government on Friday released a long-awaited report with an unmistakable message: The effects of climate change, including deadly wildfires, increasingly debilitating hurricanes and heat waves, are already battering the United States, and the danger of more such catastrophes is worsening.

The reports authors, who represent numerous federal agencies, say they are more certain than ever that climate change poses a severe threat to Americans' health and pocketbooks, as well as to the countrys infrastructure and natural resources. And while it avoids policy recommendations, the reports sense of urgency and alarm stands in stark contrast to the lack of any apparent plan from President Trump to tackle the problems, which, according to the government he runs, are increasingly dire.

The congressionally mandated document the first of its kind issued during the Trump administration details how climate-fueled disasters and other types of worrisome changes are becoming more commonplace throughout the country and how much worse they could become in the absence of efforts to combat global warming.


Already, western mountain ranges are retaining much less snow throughout the year, threatening water supplies below them. Coral reefs in the Caribbean, Hawaii, Florida and the United States' Pacific territories are experiencing severe bleaching events. Wildfires are devouring ever-larger areas during longer fire seasons. And the countrys sole Arctic state, Alaska, is seeing a staggering rate of warming that has upended its ecosystems, from once ice-clogged coastlines to increasingly thawing permafrost tundras.


The National Climate Assessments publication marks the governments fourth comprehensive look at climate-change impacts on the United States since 2000. The last came in 2014. Produced by 13 federal departments and agencies and overseen by the U.S. Global Change Research Program, the report stretches well over 1,000 pages and draws more definitive, and in some cases more startling, conclusions than earlier versions.

The authors argue that global warming is transforming where and how we live and presents growing challenges to human health and quality of life, the economy, and the natural systems that support us. And they conclude that humans must act aggressively to adapt to current impacts and mitigate future catastrophes to avoid substantial damages to the U.S. economy, environment, and human health and well-being over the coming decades.



The impacts weve seen the last 15 years have continued to get stronger, and that will only continue, said Gary Yohe, a professor of economics and environmental studies at Wesleyan University who served on a National Academy of Sciences panel that reviewed the report. We have wasted 15 years of response time. If we waste another five years of response time, the story gets worse. The longer you wait, the faster you have to respond and the more expensive it will be.

That urgency is at odds with the stance of the Trump administration, which has rolled back several Obama-era environmental regulations and incentivized the production of fossil fuels. Trump also has said he plans to withdraw the nation from the Paris climate accord and questioned the science of climate change just last month, saying on CBSs 60 Minutes that I dont know that its man-made and that the warming trend could very well go back.

Furthermore, as the Northeast faced a cold spell this week, Trump tweeted, Whatever happened to Global Warming? This shows a misunderstanding that climate scientists have repeatedly tried to correct a confusion between daily weather fluctuations and long-term climate trends.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Fridays report. However, the administration last year downplayed a separate government report calling human activity the dominant driver of global warming, saying in a statement that the climate has changed and is always changing.

Given that history, some of the hundreds of scientists and federal officials who spent months working on the detailed document were frustrated, but not surprised, that the administration chose to release it on the day after Thanksgiving typically one of the slowest news days of the year. Several people involved in the report said its release originally had been planned for early December, but after a behind-the-scenes debate in recent weeks about when to make it public, administration officials settled on Black Friday.

Several federal experts who participated in a media call after the release of the report on Friday were repeatedly asked about the timing of its release on a day when the countrys attention is likely elsewhere.

For the most part, they demurred, saying that in part the report was finished early and that they wanted to make sure it was out ahead of both an American Geophysical Union gathering next month, as well as a major international climate conference in Poland around the same time. Rather, they implored reporters to focus instead on the contents of the report, which they said had not been tinkered with by administration officials.

This report has not been altered or revised in any way because of political considerations, Monica Allen, a spokeswoman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), told reporters. She said the decision on when to release it had been made during the past week, but added, Its not as significant as the content of whats in the report.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democrat from Rhode Island, said the report shows how climate change will affect all Americans.

No matter how hard they try, the Trump administration cant bury the effects of climate change in a Black Friday news dump effects their own federal government scientists have uncovered," he said in a statement. "The president says outrageous things like climate change is a hoax engineered by the Chinese and raking forests will prevent catastrophic wildfires, but serious consequences like collapsing coastal housing prices and trillions of dollars in stranded fossil fuel assets await us if we dont act.

That report is striking in its clear statement that climate change is not only already affecting the U.S., but that the effects are getting worse.

This report draws a direct connection between the warming atmosphere and the resulting changes that affect Americans' lives, communities, and livelihoods, now and in the future, the document reads, concluding that the evidence of human-caused climate change is overwhelming and continues to strengthen, that the impacts of climate change are intensifying across the country, and that climate-related threats to Americans' physical, social, and economic well-being are rising.

The report finds that the continental United States already is 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than it was 100 years ago, surrounded by seas that are on average nine inches higher and being racked by far worse heat waves than the nation experienced only 50 years ago.

But those figures offer only the prelude to even more potentially severe impacts. The report suggests that by 2050, the country could see as much as 2.3 additional degrees of warming in the continental United States. By that same year, in a high-end global-warming scenario, coral reefs in Hawaii and the U.S. Pacific territories could be bleaching every single year conditions in which their survival would be in severe doubt. A record-warm year like 2016 would become routine.

Key crops, including corn, wheat and soybeans, would see declining yields as temperatures rise during the growing season. The city of Phoenix, which experienced about 80 days per year over 100 degrees around the turn of the century, could see between 120 and 150 such days per year by the end of the century, depending on the pace of emissions.

And those who face the most suffering? Societys most vulnerable, including lower-income and other marginalized communities, researchers found.

In another major step, the authors of the new report have begun to put dollar signs next to projected climate damage, specifically within the United States.

In a worst-case climate-change scenario, the document finds, labor-related losses by the year 2090 as a result of extreme heat the sort that makes it difficult to work outdoors or seriously lowers productivity could amount to an estimated $155 billion annually. Deaths from temperature extremes could take an economic toll of $141 billion per year in the same year, while coastal property damage could total $118 billion yearly, researchers found.


Of course, mitigating climate change would also mitigate this damage, by as much as 58 percent in the case of high-temperature related deaths, the report finds.

The categorical tone of the new assessments reflects scientists' growing confidence in the ability to detect the role of a changing climate in individual extreme events, such as heat waves and droughts. At the same time, increasingly sophisticated computer simulations now allow them to project future changes in highly specific regions of the country.

For many Americans, however, no simulations are necessary. The effects of climate change are already playing out daily.

We dont debate who caused it. You go outside, the streets are flooded. What are you going to do about it? Its our reality nowadays, said Susanne Torriente, who also reviewed the report. She is chief resilience officer for Miami Beach, which is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to adapt to rising sea levels. We need to use this best available data so we can start making decisions to start investing in our future. It shouldnt be that complicated or that partisan.

The report is being released at the same time as another major federal climate study that, in contrast, reaches a more positive conclusion at least with respect to what can be done about climate change.

The Second State of the Carbon Cycle Report, which examines all of North America (not just the United States), finds that over a decade, greenhouse-gas emissions from fossil fuels declined by 1 percent per year. The result is that while North America emitted 24 percent of the worlds emissions in 2004, that was down to 17 percent in 2013. This occurred in part thanks to improvements in vehicle fuel efficiency, the growth of renewable energy and the swapping of coal-burning for natural gas.

For the globe, were still going up, but regionally, there have been these changes in how humans have been acting that have caused our emissions to go down, said Ted Schuur, a Northern Arizona University expert on permafrost carbon who contributed to the report, the follow-up to an initial effort released in 2007.

The report concludes that it appears possible to for economies to grow at least in the United States, Mexico and Canada without increasing overall emissions of greenhouse gases. That would be an important signal for the ability of the world to slow climate change over the course of the century. However, it does not mean any lessening of climate-change impacts within the United States. As long as global emissions continue, the risk of impacts here continue, because carbon dioxide circulates around the globe.

The release of the National Climate Assessment comes on the heels of other recent global warnings, most notably a report by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change finding that the world would have to make unprecedented changes in the next decade to remain below 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit (1.5 degrees Celsius) of total warming above preindustrial levels.

The last time a U.S. National Climate Assessment was published, in 2014, Obama administration officials took the document seriously, with top policymakers heralding its release and embracing its findings.

These tailored findings help translate scientific insights into practical, usable knowledge that can help decision-makers and citizens anticipate and prepare for specific climate-change impacts, White House science adviser John Holdren and NOAA head Kathryn Sullivan wrote at the time.

On the other side of the country from Washington, at least one well-known atmospheric scientist this week was wrestling not with the contents of a climate report but with the changing view from his window.

Normally, I can see San Francisco Bay from my home, said Ken Caldeira, a senior researcher at the Carnegie Institution for Science. Today and for the past few days, I could not see the bay for all the smoke from the Paradise fire. Fires that approach the size of the Paradise fire are most common in the hot dry years the kind of years that we are likely to see many more of.

We are trained to be skeptical and resist jumping to quick conclusions, he said. But looking at the smoke, I could not help but think: This is climate change. This is what climate change looks like.


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Re: Trump admin climate change report: Climate change is real and it's worsening. [Re: hal9000] #2878961
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If the Trump admin said it there's no way it's true. They're incompetents.

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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
If the Trump admin said it there's no way it's true. They're incompetents.


He said it's fake news but his scientists say otherwise. Which one are we to believe?


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Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Raise your hand if you think Cheeto is gonna read a 1656 page assessment.


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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

nconvenient Science: NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years. Not that you'd know it, since that wasn't deemed news. Does that make NASA a global warming denier?

Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

Isn't this just the sort of man-bites-dog story that the mainstream media always says is newsworthy?

In this case, it didn't warrant any news coverage.

In fact, in the three weeks since Real Clear Markets ran Brown's story, no other news outlet picked up on it. They did, however, find time to report on such things as tourism's impact on climate change, how global warming will generate more hurricanes this year, and threaten fish habitats, and make islands uninhabitable. They wrote about a UN official saying that "our window of time for addressing climate change is closing very quickly."

Reporters even found time to cover a group that says they want to carve President Trump's face into a glacier to prove climate change "is happening."

In other words, the mainstream news covered stories that repeated what climate change advocates have been saying ad nauseam for decades.

That's not to say that a two-year stretch of cooling means that global warming is a hoax. Two years out of hundreds or thousands doesn't necessarily mean anything. And there could be a reasonable explanation. But the drop in temperatures at least merits a "Hey, what's going on here?" story.

What's more, journalists are perfectly willing to jump on any individual weather anomaly or even a picture of a starving polar bear as proof of global warming. (We haven't seen any stories pinning Hawaii's recent volcanic activity on global warming yet, but won't be surprised if someone tries to make the connection.)

We've noted this refusal to cover inconvenient scientific findings many times in this space over the years.

Hiding The Evidence
There was the study published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate showing that climate models exaggerate global warming from CO2 emissions by as much as 45%. It was ignored.

Then there was the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that found that climate models were faulty, and that, as one of the authors put it, "We haven't seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models."

Nor did the press see fit to report on findings from the University of Alabama-Huntsville showing that the Earth's atmosphere appears to be less sensitive to changing CO2 levels than previously assumed.

How about the fact that the U.S. has cut CO2 emissions over the past 13 years faster than any other industrialized nation? Or that polar bear populations are increasing? Or that we haven't seen any increase in violent weather in decades?

Crickets.

Reporters no doubt worry that covering such findings will only embolden "deniers" and undermine support for immediate, drastic action.

But if fears of catastrophic climate change are warranted which we seriously doubt ignoring things like the rapid cooling in the past two years carries an even bigger risk.

Suppose, Brown writes, the two-year cooling trend continues. "At some point the news will leak out that all global warming since 1980 has been wiped out in two and a half years, and that record-setting events went unreported."

He goes on: "Some people could go from uncritical acceptance of steadily rising temperatures to uncritical refusal to accept any warming at all."

Brown is right. News outlets should decide what gets covered based on its news value, not on whether it pushes an agenda. Otherwise, they're doing the public a disservice and putting their own already shaky credibility at greater risk.

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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
If the Trump admin said it there's no way it's true. They're incompetents.


A broken clock tells the time correctly twice a day!


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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

You do realize that term climate change is inclusive of cooling, right? And that some areas can experience record cooling while others experience record warming simultaneously?

Coastal (Central) California has had glorious weather all November, better than anything over the summer beer shaka


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This is an editorial in an investing publication. 2018 is shaping up to be the fourth hottest year on record. The other three hottest years are 2015, 2016, 2017.


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

nconvenient Science: NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years. Not that you'd know it, since that wasn't deemed news. Does that make NASA a global warming denier?

Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

Isn't this just the sort of man-bites-dog story that the mainstream media always says is newsworthy?

In this case, it didn't warrant any news coverage.

In fact, in the three weeks since Real Clear Markets ran Brown's story, no other news outlet picked up on it. They did, however, find time to report on such things as tourism's impact on climate change, how global warming will generate more hurricanes this year, and threaten fish habitats, and make islands uninhabitable. They wrote about a UN official saying that "our window of time for addressing climate change is closing very quickly."

Reporters even found time to cover a group that says they want to carve President Trump's face into a glacier to prove climate change "is happening."

In other words, the mainstream news covered stories that repeated what climate change advocates have been saying ad nauseam for decades.

That's not to say that a two-year stretch of cooling means that global warming is a hoax. Two years out of hundreds or thousands doesn't necessarily mean anything. And there could be a reasonable explanation. But the drop in temperatures at least merits a "Hey, what's going on here?" story.

What's more, journalists are perfectly willing to jump on any individual weather anomaly or even a picture of a starving polar bear as proof of global warming. (We haven't seen any stories pinning Hawaii's recent volcanic activity on global warming yet, but won't be surprised if someone tries to make the connection.)

We've noted this refusal to cover inconvenient scientific findings many times in this space over the years.

Hiding The Evidence
There was the study published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate showing that climate models exaggerate global warming from CO2 emissions by as much as 45%. It was ignored.

Then there was the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that found that climate models were faulty, and that, as one of the authors put it, "We haven't seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models."

Nor did the press see fit to report on findings from the University of Alabama-Huntsville showing that the Earth's atmosphere appears to be less sensitive to changing CO2 levels than previously assumed.

How about the fact that the U.S. has cut CO2 emissions over the past 13 years faster than any other industrialized nation? Or that polar bear populations are increasing? Or that we haven't seen any increase in violent weather in decades?

Crickets.

Reporters no doubt worry that covering such findings will only embolden "deniers" and undermine support for immediate, drastic action.

But if fears of catastrophic climate change are warranted which we seriously doubt ignoring things like the rapid cooling in the past two years carries an even bigger risk.

Suppose, Brown writes, the two-year cooling trend continues. "At some point the news will leak out that all global warming since 1980 has been wiped out in two and a half years, and that record-setting events went unreported."

He goes on: "Some people could go from uncritical acceptance of steadily rising temperatures to uncritical refusal to accept any warming at all."

Brown is right. News outlets should decide what gets covered based on its news value, not on whether it pushes an agenda. Otherwise, they're doing the public a disservice and putting their own already shaky credibility at greater risk.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edito...ing-media-bias/


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When was the climate not changing?


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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

You do realize that term climate change is inclusive of cooling, right? And that some areas can experience record cooling while others experience record warming simultaneously?

Coastal (Central) California has had glorious weather all November, better than anything over the summer beer shaka


You do realize that the reason the enviro-nuts switched their terminology to "Climate Change" instead of "Global Warming" was in order to have it both ways when common sense, reality and facts did not line up with their agenda. Always be alarmed and always be afraid!!!!!!


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When was the climate not changing?

Thats always been happening. Duh. The question is if and how much humans are contributing, and what the consequences will be foreheadslap


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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

You do realize that term climate change is inclusive of cooling, right? And that some areas can experience record cooling while others experience record warming simultaneously?

Coastal (Central) California has had glorious weather all November, better than anything over the summer beer shaka


You do realize that the reason the enviro-nuts switched their terminology to "Climate Change" instead of "Global Warming" was in order to have it both ways when common sense, reality and facts did not line up with their agenda. Always be alarmed and always be afraid!!!!!!

Lol, you are the last person who should be talking about reality and facts, given your systematic confirmation bias towards right wing ideology and media.

Heres a fact: California had the warmest January on record last year, followed by a colder than average spring and summer. Therefore yes, both abnormal warming and cooling can both take place in the same place and year trout
Beyond that, most farmers who have been farming and voting republican for decades will tell you that climate change is happening and making their job more complicated. Therefore, not everyone falls into their designated binary team sports camp based on their political ideology when it comes to climate change, unlike you trout


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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

You do realize that term climate change is inclusive of cooling, right? And that some areas can experience record cooling while others experience record warming simultaneously?

Coastal (Central) California has had glorious weather all November, better than anything over the summer beer shaka


You do realize that the reason the enviro-nuts switched their terminology to "Climate Change" instead of "Global Warming" was in order to have it both ways when common sense, reality and facts did not line up with their agenda. Always be alarmed and always be afraid!!!!!!

HILLARY! OBAMA!

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Originally Posted By: grapedrink

Heres a fact: California had the warmest January on record last year, followed by a colder than average spring and summer.


That's just weather. Isn't that what you guys say wen events don't support the hyperbole?


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