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#2866502 - 10/27/18 09:12 AM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: manbearpig]
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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Jetties help big time for sure.

But even those situations in NE the big tide swings just flatten out all the beaches and keep them fairly shallow for a long ways. This isn’t always the case though; but generally it is.


Long flat spells will do that....
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#2866615 - 10/27/18 12:13 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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My point on the tide is that it makes the magic banks short lived.

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#2866936 - 10/28/18 08:18 AM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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#2867262 - 10/29/18 09:37 AM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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I think the closest analogy to SW France is Monterey Bay from Marina to La Selva. You have a deep offshore canyon and wide open beach. However, you can pretty well predict whether Monterey Bay will be good if you know swell and wind direction.

I dont think the NE US is the same because of the continental shelf. Tend to be shorter period swells.

France is kind of like Monterey Bay, just 100x longer, but less predictable. A peak can work for 20 minutes, then start closing out. Or you'll be surfing 50 meters off the beach, then it starts breaking 200 meters further out.


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#2867292 - 10/29/18 11:11 AM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: Autoprax]
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#2867352 - 10/29/18 12:22 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: Peter1]
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Originally Posted By: Peter1
I think the closest analogy to SW France is Monterey Bay from Marina to La Selva. You have a deep offshore canyon and wide open beach. However, you can pretty well predict whether Monterey Bay will be good if you know swell and wind direction.

I dont think the NE US is the same because of the continental shelf. Tend to be shorter period swells.

France is kind of like Monterey Bay, just 100x longer, but less predictable. A peak can work for 20 minutes, then start closing out. Or you'll be surfing 50 meters off the beach, then it starts breaking 200 meters further out.

I see your point in regards to aspect and off shore bathymetry, but I don't think the actual sandbars are a fair comparison shrug I realize you live in France and have more on the ground experience with that area than most here, but I don't think the sandbars in Marina or Aptos look anything like Le Penon shrug
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#2867376 - 10/29/18 12:46 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: grapedrink]
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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: Peter1
I think the closest analogy to SW France is Monterey Bay from Marina to La Selva. You have a deep offshore canyon and wide open beach. However, you can pretty well predict whether Monterey Bay will be good if you know swell and wind direction.

I dont think the NE US is the same because of the continental shelf. Tend to be shorter period swells.

France is kind of like Monterey Bay, just 100x longer, but less predictable. A peak can work for 20 minutes, then start closing out. Or you'll be surfing 50 meters off the beach, then it starts breaking 200 meters further out.

I see your point in regards to aspect and off shore bathymetry, but I don't think the actual sandbars are a fair comparison shrug I realize you live in France and have more on the ground experience with that area than most here, but I don't think the sandbars in Marina or Aptos look anything like Le Penon shrug


There is always a couple of months that are ridiculously good. Sand points for miles.

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#2867380 - 10/29/18 12:51 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: beerbelly]
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Originally Posted By: beerbelly
Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: Peter1
I think the closest analogy to SW France is Monterey Bay from Marina to La Selva. You have a deep offshore canyon and wide open beach. However, you can pretty well predict whether Monterey Bay will be good if you know swell and wind direction.

I dont think the NE US is the same because of the continental shelf. Tend to be shorter period swells.

France is kind of like Monterey Bay, just 100x longer, but less predictable. A peak can work for 20 minutes, then start closing out. Or you'll be surfing 50 meters off the beach, then it starts breaking 200 meters further out.

I see your point in regards to aspect and off shore bathymetry, but I don't think the actual sandbars are a fair comparison shrug I realize you live in France and have more on the ground experience with that area than most here, but I don't think the sandbars in Marina or Aptos look anything like Le Penon shrug


There is always a couple of months that are ridiculously good. Sand points for miles.


Is early December in that span or no?

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#2867416 - 10/29/18 01:14 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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Depends on storms. December is usually stormy. Feb and March are usually the call.

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#2867421 - 10/29/18 01:18 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: beerbelly]
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Originally Posted By: beerbelly
Depends on storms. December is usually stormy. Feb and March are usually the call.

Makes sense, but maybe France has more consistent sandbars on a year round basis because of more rainfall shrug
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#2867442 - 10/29/18 01:41 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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The best sandbars are caused by underground aquifers. Always was my theory until a friends mom who works in that field backed me up. Every year the same bars reappear and break the same.

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#2867493 - 10/29/18 02:36 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: grapedrink]
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Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: beerbelly
Depends on storms. December is usually stormy. Feb and March are usually the call.

Makes sense, but maybe France has more consistent sandbars on a year round basis because of more rainfall shrug


Was thinking the same thing. Year round rain is good for sandbars.

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#2867681 - 10/29/18 05:34 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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#2867829 - 10/29/18 10:02 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: bird.]
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Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: beerbelly
Depends on storms. December is usually stormy. Feb and March are usually the call.

Makes sense, but maybe France has more consistent sandbars on a year round basis because of more rainfall shrug


Was thinking the same thing. Year round rain is good for sandbars.


Yeah but a good stretch of 20 foot swell kinda rearranges things. Luckily that happens here .

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#2867869 - 10/29/18 11:56 PM Re: Does France have the best sandbanks on the planet???? [Re: Duffy]
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Originally Posted By: mundus
Yes, always amazed how good it gets. Only fly in the ointment is the huge tides.


Huge tides are part of what makes the bars so good.


If you think Biscay has huge tides, you've never seen Cornwall tides.

25-50ft tides and sandbars are nowhere near as good as Hossegor.
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