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LA Times article on Hollister Ranch #2863443
10/22/18 02:45 AM
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The rich get richer:
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-hollister-taxes-20181020-story.html
$3700 yearly property tax for 120 acres on the coast....

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: impactzone] #2863461
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They arent doing anything wrong as the headline would encourage a hapless reader to think. Buried at the bottom is the truth:

the Williamson Act, which was implemented statewide in 1965 to encourage agricultural preservation. As the California Department of Conservation website explains it, private landowners can enter into contracts with county officials if they agree to land-use restrictions.
In return, the website says, landowners receive property tax assessments which are much lower than normal because they are based upon farming and open space uses as opposed to full market value.

Bottom line: the people who worked hard enough or were smart enough to buy a parcel arent breaking any laws. Id buy there if I could, but I dont get mad when other people are successful. Hating your neighbor because he had more than you used to be looked down on as being covetous and greedy, now its sjw mandate.

The politicians in Sacto are junkies for tax dollars and junkies can never get enough. Today its people at the ranch, soon they will work their way down to you to pay your fair share Screw them, its goddamn Golden State Bolshevism.

This is their second article in a month about the Ranch. What the Times should be looking into the finances of Californias representatives.

When the market tanked after 2007 I sent in a letter to reduce my property tax, youd be an idiot not to. Obviously these people are not idiots.

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: MelesMeles] #2863466
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Originally Posted By: MelesMeles
They arent doing anything wrong as the headline would encourage a hapless reader to think. Buried at the bottom is the truth:

the Williamson Act, which was implemented statewide in 1965 to encourage agricultural preservation. As the California Department of Conservation website explains it, private landowners can enter into contracts with county officials if they agree to land-use restrictions.
In return, the website says, landowners receive property tax assessments which are much lower than normal because they are based upon farming and open space uses as opposed to full market value.

Bottom line: the people who worked hard enough or were smart enough to buy a parcel arent breaking any laws. Id buy there if I could, but I dont get mad when other people are successful. Hating your neighbor because he had more than you used to be looked down on as being covetous and greedy, now its sjw mandate.

The politicians in Sacto are junkies for tax dollars and junkies can never get enough. Today its people at the ranch, soon they will work their way down to you to pay your fair share Screw them, its goddamn Golden State Bolshevism.

This is their second article in a month about the Ranch. What the Times should be looking into the finances of Californias representatives.

When the market tanked after 2007 I sent in a letter to reduce my property tax, youd be an idiot not to. Obviously these people are not idiots.


Great post. Its like crabs in a bucket with some people, they think if their neighbor gives more to the state they somehow win.

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: MelesMeles] #2863494
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How many people that live in Hollister ranch, or own, are ranchers?

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: MelesMeles] #2863534
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Originally Posted By: MelesMeles
They arent doing anything wrong as the headline would encourage a hapless reader to think. Buried at the bottom is the truth:

the Williamson Act, which was implemented statewide in 1965 to encourage agricultural preservation. As the California Department of Conservation website explains it, private landowners can enter into contracts with county officials if they agree to land-use restrictions.
In return, the website says, landowners receive property tax assessments which are much lower than normal because they are based upon farming and open space uses as opposed to full market value.

Bottom line: the people who worked hard enough or were smart enough to buy a parcel arent breaking any laws. Id buy there if I could, but I dont get mad when other people are successful. Hating your neighbor because he had more than you used to be looked down on as being covetous and greedy, now its sjw mandate.

The politicians in Sacto are junkies for tax dollars and junkies can never get enough. Today its people at the ranch, soon they will work their way down to you to pay your fair share Screw them, its goddamn Golden State Bolshevism.

This is their second article in a month about the Ranch. What the Times should be looking into the finances of Californias representatives.

When the market tanked after 2007 I sent in a letter to reduce my property tax, youd be an idiot not to. Obviously these people are not idiots.


This....


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Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: impactzone] #2863535
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Oscar-winning film director James Cameron enjoyed a $28,000 property tax break last year. CVS heiress Sidne Long got a $22,000 break. Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard saw a $13,000 savings, and singer Jackson Browne got a $3,000 break.


It would be nice if the people named above would shut the f@ck up about tax cuts for the rich.

BTW, Chouinard is the biggest hypocrite one can be. He does not live his own life how he advocates for others to live theirs.

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Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: impactzone] #2863536
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"Chouinard, through a spokesman, declined my interview request."

roflmao


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A: Buy Pezman's mag and turn it into a piece of crap.
Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: impactzone] #2863609
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there's $13.8 billion in California's "rainy day" fund. use it to buy out the Ranch and turn it into a state park shrug

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: stu dog] #2863682
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Originally Posted By: stu dog
there's $13.8 billion in California's "rainy day" fund. use it to buy out the Ranch and turn it into a Yosemite shrug


Fixed it for yuh

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: SBSteve] #2863704
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Originally Posted By: SBSteve
Originally Posted By: stu dog
there's $13.8 billion in California's "rainy day" fund. use it to buy out the Ranch and turn it into a Yosemite shrug


Fixed it for yuh


Nah brah.....



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Don't stir the pot if you don't know the ingredient.

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I guess the ocean is always ready to kill someone for free. laugh
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How about turn it into a preserve with limited, booked access, kinda like Arroyo Hondo shrug



Originally Posted By: PPK96754
Don't stir the pot if you don't know the ingredient.

Originally Posted By: HarryLopez
I guess the ocean is always ready to kill someone for free. laugh
Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: Boneroni] #2863707
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Originally Posted By: Boneroni
Originally Posted By: SBSteve
Originally Posted By: stu dog
there's $13.8 billion in California's "rainy day" fund. use it to buy out the Ranch and turn it into a Yosemite shrug


Fixed it for yuh


Nah brah.....



Looks like Rome.

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: Duffy] #2863709
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Originally Posted By: Duffy
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Oscar-winning film director James Cameron enjoyed a $28,000 property tax break last year. CVS heiress Sidne Long got a $22,000 break. Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard saw a $13,000 savings, and singer Jackson Browne got a $3,000 break.


It would be nice if the people named above would shut the f@ck up about tax cuts for the rich.

BTW, Chouinard is the biggest hypocrite one can be. He does not live his own life how he advocates for others to live theirs.


what's the deal with Chouinard shrug

Re: LA Times article on Hollister Ranch [Re: Boneroni] #2863717
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Originally Posted By: Boneroni
How about turn it into a preserve with limited, booked access, kinda like Arroyo Hondo shrug


LOL, because it is privately owned and collectively the owners have no intention of selling.

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