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#2863404 - 10/21/18 07:49 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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i'm rooting for island justice, if it's anything like your atlantic sister islands those fools end up feeding fish, no sense in wasting a good tweaker.... fish gotta eat too ya know?
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#2863413 - 10/21/18 08:04 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: SurfFuerte]
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Too many "Fools" to feed the fish .

Get it in the news , Latronics , Guy Hagi, North Shore community rant on Facebook etc and it will have to be taken care of - no matter if someones cousins going to go to jail.
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#2863482 - 10/22/18 02:52 AM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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#2863610 - 10/22/18 12:02 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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From the news cast linked above by slopokecr:
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While working in his shed Thursday night, Matty Raynor heard noise coming from the vacant home next door. At some point someone who was at the home threw a beer bottle onto his property.

Raynor called the police, they came, took a report, and left.

It was just kind of a weird and intense evening so I decided to go to sleep on the couch, Raynor said.

His wife and two young daughters were asleep in their rooms; when around midnight, Matty woke up to a stranger in his home shining a flashlight in his face.

I stood up, the light went on me and I couldnt really see very well, but I knew they were coming at me. And the light dropped and when the light dropped I saw someone throwing like a really slow, sloppy punch, Raynor said.
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I am glad that Matt, his wife, and his daughters are alive still!
Glad too that they are goin' public with their experience, as GG advised!

As I'm a dude who had to pull a knife on a tweek~er who came at me the other mornin' in the pre~dawn' darkness around 6:15 am as I was lookin' over the sea~wall at a beach in L.A. where I like to look for breachin' Great White Sharks, and LAPD did not do shee~it even though I saw them else~where + talked with 'em soon after~wards, well I wonder of this: If you too are awoke by some tweeked~out kook standin' in your livin' room shinin' a bright light on ya, where the F**K was Matt's gun, his knife, his base~ball bat so he could defend not just him~self, but his Family too??? F**Kin' tweek~er's, I woulda easily shot him, you too? Just make sure he is facin' ya, ya dig? mad

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#2863633 - 10/22/18 12:40 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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After the '92 L.A. Riots,
I used to some~times carry a gun, a mini Colt 380 on me in the old Dog~Town shop I ran.
This was because over the years in my Santa Monica Main Street neighborhood, well the chick who owned a cute clothin' boutique named Ragsby Wolf next door was held up at knife~point 1 fine evenin' as I sat awaitin' customers mere feet away and I spoke with her right afterwards, the folks at Santa Monica Farms next~door were then robbed at gun~point too, the pep's at the ol' Pioneer Boulangerie across the street were robbed by dudes wth shot~guns 1 early morn', and 1 of the night cashiers at Star Liquor, which is right across the street from where The WSL has it's current head~quarters, was held up and was then shot in the head right before Christmas 1 year, even though he gave over the $$$. I got lucky, never robbed, though I had the finger on the trigger, the safety off a few times whilest inside the surf~shop. I do not have my Colt 380 anymore, it is a lame story/oh well. BUT if I wanted to get an excellent pistol for self~protection, this is what I'd get today for self/business/family protection:
Smith & Wesson's M&P 2.0 Compact Handgun: Better Than Glock?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/smith-wessons-mp-20-compact-handgun-better-glock-29792
Pass it on...
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Edited by RWVBWL (10/22/18 12:49 PM)

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#2863745 - 10/22/18 02:48 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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I have never owned a weapon but am always a bit confused when something like this happens and people say they should have had a gun - I agree, but....................

If I have a gun and someone wakes me up, how do I get the gun? If I have kids isn't the gun in a safe that I would have to go unlock?

I am all for blasting away, but unless you are sleeping with gun are you too late?

What's best defense? Dogs?

Thanks


Edited by Truth (10/22/18 02:54 PM)

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#2863747 - 10/22/18 02:51 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Truth]
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#2863767 - 10/22/18 03:26 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Truth]
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Originally Posted By: Truth
I have never owned a weapon but am always a bit confused when something like this happens and people say they should have had a gun - I agree, but....................

If I have a gun and someone wakes me up, how do I get the gun? If I have kids isn't the gun in a safe that I would have to go unlock?

I am all for blasting away, but unless you are sleeping with gun are you too late?

What's best defense? Dogs?

Thanks

The honest answer is probably dogs that will bark and awake you. Anyone who says that a gun would have helped in this situation is living in a fantasy land. I love guns and own multiple for sport and self defense. But unless you're completely unhinged you're not going to be sleeping on your couch with a glock in your waistband while your wife and kids sleep upstairs.

I keep my guns in a child proof safe that is out of reach. Realistically, my two dogs would freak out if anyone tried to open the door in the middle of the night at which point I could choose to grab my gun if someone continued trying to enter my house. But without something giving you prior warning that someone is trying to enter your house there is not much you can do.

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#2863772 - 10/22/18 03:28 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Truth]
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Originally Posted By: Truth
I have never owned a weapon but am always a bit confused when something like this happens and people say they should have had a gun - I agree, but....................

If I have a gun and someone wakes me up, how do I get the gun? If I have kids isn't the gun in a safe that I would have to go unlock?

I am all for blasting away, but unless you are sleeping with gun are you too late?

What's best defense? Dogs?

Thanks


Probably wouldn't have helped in this case because he was on the couch and wouldn't have been able to get there in time. In general I would say don't let it get to the point where you need your gun. Deterrence and more secured home.




Edited by surfy1476 (10/22/18 03:29 PM)

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#2863780 - 10/22/18 03:33 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Crazy update!!! Turns out Matty fucked the first guy up so badly the guy's in a coma. They found one of his missing teeth in Matt's yard and it's a match to the guy in the hospital. That means the guy who hit him with the paver and knocked him out had to have taken his unconscious partner to the hospital.
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#2863782 - 10/22/18 03:35 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Does Matt trane?

Pulling for the Raynors here!

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#2863784 - 10/22/18 03:37 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Muscles]
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Originally Posted By: Muscles
Originally Posted By: Truth
I have never owned a weapon but am always a bit confused when something like this happens and people say they should have had a gun - I agree, but....................

If I have a gun and someone wakes me up, how do I get the gun? If I have kids isn't the gun in a safe that I would have to go unlock?

I am all for blasting away, but unless you are sleeping with gun are you too late?

What's best defense? Dogs?

Thanks

The honest answer is probably dogs that will bark and awake you. Anyone who says that a gun would have helped in this situation is living in a fantasy land. I love guns and own multiple for sport and self defense. But unless you're completely unhinged you're not going to be sleeping on your couch with a glock in your waistband while your wife and kids sleep upstairs.

I keep my guns in a child proof safe that is out of reach. Realistically, my two dogs would freak out if anyone tried to open the door in the middle of the night at which point I could choose to grab my gun if someone continued trying to enter my house. But without something giving you prior warning that someone is trying to enter your house there is not much you can do.

Muscles is correct
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#2863789 - 10/22/18 03:39 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: Coat Hanger]
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wow. skimming that story it sounds like local police on Oahu are INCOMPETENT at best and work for the criminals in a worst case scenario.
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#2863792 - 10/22/18 03:42 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: obslop]
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Originally Posted By: obslop
wow. skimming that story it sounds like local police on Oahu are INCOMPETENT at best and work for the criminals in a worst case scenario.

Why not both?

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#2863793 - 10/22/18 03:44 PM Re: Matty Raynor Home Invasion [Re: SenorBlues]
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Originally Posted By: SenorBlues
Crazy update!!! Turns out Matty fucked the first guy up so badly the guy's in a coma. They found one of his missing teeth in Matt's yard and it's a match to the guy in the hospital. That means the guy who hit him with the paver and knocked him out had to have taken his unconscious partner to the hospital.


It is uncommon for a fellow thief/thug to help out a fellow thief/thug for the average B&E.

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