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#2857817 - 10/10/18 11:53 AM Stents?
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So I went to have my scan yesterday. It was actually to be a "nuclear stress test." However when I got there the MD told me to be 100% certain about what was causing the chest tightness (and the EKG anomalies during the normal stress test) he suggested an angiogram. We skipped the nuclear stress test.

He gave me the three outcome scenarios- 1) no blockage and then back the drawing board to figure our what is causing the issues, 2) minor blockages which would be treated then and there with stents or 3) multiple blockages at which point by pass surgery would be necessary.

Scary shit.

Of course, my first question was , "Can I still surf and run?" He suggested I wait until after the test (next week).

Of course, then obsessive compulsive as I seem to be, I went on line to find out about running marathons after having stents inserted.

Anybody here have experiences with stents or angioplasty?

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#2858229 - 10/10/18 07:44 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Ever heard of Plavix?

Do you consider surfing a contact sport?

Start doing research on anticoagulation post stenting. Beware the source of the material.

If you can understand medical journals they can provide a wealth of insight.
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#2858921 - 10/12/18 12:59 AM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Originally Posted By: patrolman
.....Anybody here have experiences with stents or angioplasty?


I don't have any experience with stents, but I have knowledge about "blockages". Blockages are caused by buildup of amyloid plaque and VLDL cholesterol.

Arteries are required to expand and contract as the heart pumps. Plaque builds up inside arteries. Plaque does not expand or contract. The plaque cracks and breaks when the heart pumps. Very low density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol particles are frequently present in patients with arterial plaque. The VLDL particles collect in the cracks until they cause blockages.

What causes plaque and VLDL cholesterol? Glycation .....sugar-ization .....causes both. So it's no wonder that people with artery plaque are the same people with high VLDL counts. Get off of the carbs and onto fats.
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Edited by squidley (10/12/18 01:29 PM)

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#2858985 - 10/12/18 09:25 AM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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jeff
PM my brother at Sways he can tell you all about them had multiple procedures and over 5 stents before eventually getting his chest cracked open

I need the same procedure as yours
they tried to treat mine with medication but its been about a year and my quality of life is only deteriorating
pretty much have been having Ventricular Tachycardia symptoms for over 3 years now and its getting worse with each weekend. I'm good for one thing a weekend and then i'm down and out for the rest of the day recovering

Also having frozen shoulder joints hasn't been helpful in losing weight but not being able to exert myself for any period of time with out going through these Ventricular Tachycardia symptoms sucks

too much Hinode and not enough surfing I guess
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#2859116 - 10/12/18 04:05 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Hey Squidley, my primary MD didn't think it was the heart because my blood pressure is normal and my cholesterol is good (normal overall count, high count of the good cholesterol). I'm still hoping...

Bernie, I will try to contact your bro. Shark Country right?

I've been doing PT for the shoulder and neck now for a few months and it doesn't seem to help. I surfed last week and within an hour my shoulder was sore. I can still surf but it's just uncomfortable.

I know I'm addicted to exercise because my first thought was "Am I going to be able to run the LA Marathon this year?"

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#2859141 - 10/12/18 04:44 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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yup Sharkbait (Harry)
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#2859207 - 10/12/18 09:38 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Originally Posted By: patrolman
Hey Squidley, my primary MD didn't think it was the heart because my blood pressure is normal and my cholesterol is good (normal overall count, high count of the good cholesterol). I'm still hoping...


There are 4 major gene type people where cholesterol is concered. It puts constraints on broad statements about cholesterol test results. In the end there are only two tests that matter, and they don't include "good cholesterol" (HDL) count.

1. Triglycerides. They represent ingested fat. The liver converts triglycerides into HDL and LDL cholesterol. When carbs glycate the liver it curtails cholesterol production, and blood triglycerides rise. You want low triglycerides.

2. Very low density lipoprotein (VLDL) count. These are basically the dead cholesterol particles which a glycated liver produces. You want very low VLDL count.

Ask to see your cholesterol test. Some old school doctors omit one or both of these tests. If you don't see them listed then get a new test with these tests included. Do whatever it takes to get them.
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#2859334 - 10/13/18 01:28 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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been through most everything except getting my chest cracked open. 5 or 6 stents. Pacemaker. IV Filter. etc. The PET scan and angiograms are like a road map for doctors. Stents were the result of blockages around the heart and bp that was off the charts. I'm now around 116/60, 60 bpm. Work out daily (40 min to 60 min a day on elliptical, pull-ups, etc). No longer pressure in chest or breathless after going up/down 10-15 stairs. No more surf since knee replacement at 65 which is a bummer but watching my kids and grand kids surf is personally rewarding. Listen to your doctor but always try to get the most experienced cardiologist or, doctor's doctor when requiring a specialist.

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#2859413 - 10/13/18 09:32 PM Re: Stents? [Re: squidley]
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Originally Posted By: patrolman
Hey Squidley, my primary MD didn't think it was the heart because my blood pressure is normal and my cholesterol is good (normal overall count, high count of the good cholesterol). I'm still hoping...


There are 4 major gene type people where cholesterol is concered. It puts constraints on broad statements about cholesterol test results. In the end there are only two tests that matter, and they don't include "good cholesterol" (HDL) count.

1. Triglycerides. They represent ingested fat. The liver converts triglycerides into HDL and LDL cholesterol. When carbs glycate the liver it curtails cholesterol production, and blood triglycerides rise. You want low triglycerides.

2. Very low density lipoprotein (VLDL) count. These are basically the dead cholesterol particles which a glycated liver produces. You want very low VLDL count.

Ask to see your cholesterol test. Some old school doctors omit one or both of these tests. If you don't see them listed then get a new test with these tests included. Do whatever it takes to get them.
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Hey Squid, my numbers from my blood test on 8-21 were-

Total cholesterol 205 (normal below 200)
Triglycerides 137 (normal less than 150)
HDL (good) chleserol 80 (normal above 40, excellent if above 65)
LDL (bad) cholesterol 98 - (desired level under 130, best under 100)

Did not see VLDL.

I did not take the Cardiologists advice. He told me not to do any long runs until after the angiogram. I did a run today. Started really slow (for me) and after five minutes I felt the chest tightness. I eased up even more and was considering stopping, But after another ten minutes the tightness disappeared. This has been the pattern. I continued running paying close attention to any sensation in my chest but none came and I ended up running ten miles.

Angiogram is on Wednesday. Keeping all my limbs crossed....

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#2859421 - 10/13/18 10:03 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Stents...when your cleared to poop you're fine to train, surf, run, etc...
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#2859441 - 10/13/18 11:02 PM Re: Stents? [Re: john4surf]
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My 90 Y/O dad had a stent placed for a big aneurysm back in July. It was getting dangerous.

For most people it's an outpatient surgery these days. They kept him overnight because he's 90.

Picked him up from the Hospital the next morning and took him home. Wheelchair mandatory at the hospital to get him out to the car. He popped out of the passenger seat and walked into the house under his own power.

Didn't even faze him. roflmao

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#2859656 - 10/14/18 03:10 PM Re: Stents? [Re: Coat Hanger]
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Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Stents...when your cleared to poop you're fine to train, surf, run, etc...



How does getting hit in the head with your board (or someone else's) work out when someone is taking Plavix or other platelet or coagulation inhibitors?

Hitting the reef?

How about fin cuts?
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#2859721 - 10/14/18 05:37 PM Re: Stents? [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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Plavix often results in heavy bruising when one bumps an arm, leg, etc., on a hard object. Nicked my face in a few areas while RVing around the West recently, took some time and pressure to stop the bleeding. Reef hits, fin cuts, etc., may result in a road map to your position for mister great white...

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#2859807 - 10/15/18 12:39 AM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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Brain tissue doesnt respond to bruises so well.

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#2860542 - 10/16/18 03:10 PM Re: Stents? [Re: patrolman]
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gnarly. hope u'll be ok patrolman. cheers
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