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#2831407 - 08/10/18 06:41 AM Muslim training kids for school shootings.
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This should be the #1 news story of the day.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-mexico-...day-2018-08-08/

Man at filthy New Mexico compound was training kids to commit school shootings, prosecutors say


Last Updated Aug 8, 2018 6:59 PM EDT

TAOS, N.M. — The father of a missing 4-year-old Georgia boy was training children at a filthy New Mexico compound to commit school shootings, prosecutors alleged in court documents Wednesday. The documents say Siraj Ibn Wahhaj was conducting weapons training with assault rifles at the compound near the Colorado border that was raided by authorities Friday.

Prosecutor Timothy Hasson filed the court documents while asking that Wahhaj be held without bail after he was arrested last week with four other adults facing child abuse charges. Authorities are also awaiting word on whether human remains found at the site were those of Wahhaj's son, who is severely disabled and went missing in December in Jonesboro, Georgia, near Atlanta.

"He poses a great danger to the children found on the property as well as a threat to the community as a whole due to the presence of firearms and his intent to use these firearms in a violent and illegal manner," Hasson wrote.

Prosecutors did not bring up the school shooting accusation during initial court hearings Wednesday for the abuse suspects. A judge ordered them all held without bond pending further proceedings.

In the court documents, authorities said a foster parent of one of the 11 children removed from the compound had told authorities the child had been trained to use an assault rifle in preparation for a school shooting.

Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe previously said adults at the compound were "considered extremist of the Muslim belief." He did not elaborate, saying it was part of the investigation.

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This Friday, Aug. 3, 2018, photo released by Taos County Sheriff's Office shows Siraj Wahhaj. TAOS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE VIA AP
Aleks Kostich of the Taos County Public Defender's Office questioned the new accusation of a school shooting conspiracy against by Wahhaj, saying the claim was presented with little information beyond the explanation that it came from a foster parent.

Kostich believes prosecutors are not certain about the credibility of the foster parent, whom he has no way of reaching to verify the claim, he said.

CBS News has learned Wednesday that Wahhaj is the son of a Brooklyn imam who was a possible co-conspirator in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 -- but was never charged.

The elder Wahhaj heads the Masjid At-Taqwa, a mosque that has attracted radical speakers over the years. Wahhaj met Mahmud Abouhalima when he came to the site to raise money for Muslims in Afghanistan.

CBS affiliate KRQE-TV reported that the malnourished children are in the custody of the state's Children, Youth and Families Department.

In a Georgia arrest warrant, authorities said 39-year-old Siraj Ibn Wahhaj had told his son's mother that he wanted to perform an exorcism on the child because he believed he was possessed by the devil. He later said he was taking the child to a park and didn't return.

He is accused in Georgia of kidnapping the boy.

The arrest warrant issued there says the missing boy has a condition caused by lack of oxygen and blood flow around the time of birth. He cannot walk and requires constant attention, his mother told police.

For months, neighbors worried about the squalid compound built along a remote New Mexico plain, saying they took their concerns to authorities long before sheriff's officials raided the facility described as a small camping trailer in the ground.

The search at the compound came amid a two-month investigation that included the FBI. Hogrefe said federal agents surveilled the area a few weeks ago but did not find probable cause to search the property.

That changed when Georgia detectives forwarded a message to the sheriff that he said initially had been sent to a third party, saying: "We are starving and need food and water."

Authorities found what Hogrefe called "the saddest living conditions and poverty" he has seen in 30 years in law enforcement. He said Wahhaj was armed with multiple firearms, including an assault rifle. But he was taken into custody without incident.

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Taos County Planning Department officials Rachel Romero, left, and Eric Montoya survey property conditions at a disheveled living compound at Amalia, N.M., on Tue., Aug. 7, 2018. AP
The group arrived in Amalia in December, with enough money to buy groceries and construction supplies, according to Tyler Anderson, a 41-year-old auto mechanic who lives nearby.

He said he helped them install solar panels after they arrived but eventually stopped visiting.

Anderson said he met both of the men in the group, but never the women, who authorities have said are the mothers of the 11 children, ages 1 to 15.

"We just figured they were doing what we were doing, getting a piece of land and getting off the grid," Anderson said.

As the months passed, he said he stopped seeing the smaller children playing in the area and didn't hear guns being fired at a shooting range on the property.

Jason Badger, who owned the property where the compound was built, said he and his wife had pressed authorities to remove the group after becoming concerned about the children.

The group had built the compound on their acreage instead of a neighboring tract owned by Lucas Morton, one of the men arrested during the raid.

However, a judge dismissed an eviction notice filed by Badger against Morton in June, court records said. The records did not provide further details on the judge's decision.

After the raid, Anderson looked over the property for the first time in months.

"I was flabbergasted from what it had turned into from the last time I saw it," he said.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/siraj-wahha...ourt-documents/
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#2831408 - 08/10/18 07:24 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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For weeks the media went nuts over kids being separated from their criminal parents. To me children being trained at a terrorist training camp in our country to carry out school shootings is a far bigger story. Just saying......
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#2831410 - 08/10/18 07:36 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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I don’t understand how all these kids ended up there

He kidnapped one of them

How did the others get there?

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#2831411 - 08/10/18 07:39 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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Summer camp for Jihadist????
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#2831414 - 08/10/18 07:44 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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Muslin NAMBLA?

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#2831415 - 08/10/18 07:52 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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You think the media will go into full frenzy mode over this story or give it as little coverage as they can get away with?
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#2831428 - 08/10/18 09:58 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
For weeks the media went nuts over kids being separated from their criminal parents. To me children being trained at a terrorist training camp in our country to carry out school shootings is a far bigger story. Just saying......


hysterical bedwetting snowflakes with poor reading comprehension

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...the claim was presented with little information beyond the explanation that it came from a foster parent.

Kostich believes prosecutors are not certain about the credibility of the foster parent, whom he has no way of reaching to verify the claim, he said.


Russian election interference: evidence; denials
Muslim Child Shooters: hearsay; fully embraced

how unusual....
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#2831432 - 08/10/18 10:18 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: afoaf]
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Amazingly well organized and well funded compound they had going out there. They could buy guns legally, which is great. The ability to sell firearms is the foundation of our nation.

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#2831436 - 08/10/18 10:46 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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GromsDad:

First, stop trying to draw parallels or equivalence between this story and the other stories you mentioned. This is a truly awful and frightening story on its own merit and I’m glad that law enforcement caught these assh*les. Hopefully this bust prevented a tragedy and will also tip off o law enforcement in other towns, cities, and states so they know what to look for in the future.

This is another argument for stronger gun control and mental health screening and anyone who says otherwise is not being honest with themselves or others.
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#2831437 - 08/10/18 10:51 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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GromsDad:

First, stop trying to draw parallels or equivalence between this story and the other stories you mentioned. This is a truly awful and frightening story on its own merit and I’m glad that law enforcement caught these assh*les. Hopefully this bust prevented a tragedy and will also tip off o law enforcement in other towns, cities, and states so they know what to look for in the future.

This is another argument for stronger gun control and mental health screening and anyone who says otherwise is not being honest with themselves or others.
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#2831441 - 08/10/18 11:00 AM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: hal9000]
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Originally Posted By: hal9000

This is another argument for stronger gun control and mental health screening and anyone who says otherwise is not being honest with themselves or others.


The vast majority of desert people and those who live way out in the boonies are very off mentally. The Muslims in question actually assimilated quite well into that culture. Very well, actually.

None of those people should have guns. Actually, even a spoon and a collection of peas would be pushing it.

They're the same type as the guy who started the Holy Jim fire.
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#2831542 - 08/10/18 04:30 PM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: hal9000]
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Originally Posted By: hal9000
GromsDad:

...stop trying to draw parallels or equivalence between this story and the other stories you mentioned.


Seriously!

On one hand you have government sponsored separation of thousands of children from parents, on the other you have a Muslim extremist abusing children and starting a militia.

These are the terrorist cells the "come and take them" crowd are worried about? roflmao

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#2831548 - 08/10/18 04:50 PM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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Face it, the only reason that government policy got hammered on by the media is because they thought they could damage Trump with it. This story can't be used to damage Trump and the perp in this case has ties to democrats and the leader of the pink hat protest leader so the media is going to give it as little coverage as they can possibly get away with.
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#2831549 - 08/10/18 04:57 PM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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No. That piece of government policy was hammered because it was, to polietely say, shitty policy that never should have been implemented in the first place.

Take you’re blinders off for once, at least try to stop making a fool of yourself.
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#2831573 - 08/10/18 05:35 PM Re: Muslim training kids for school shootings. [Re: GromsDad]
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
the perp in this case has ties to democrats and the leader of the pink hat protest leader


WTF are you talking about?

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