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fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost #2815675
06/30/18 09:49 AM
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Is there a reason (other than being a kook) why a custom Pyzel Shortcut 6'2, 19"1/2, 2"1/2, 32.1 liters (similar to a Ghost I suppose) would be so much easier to catch waves than a stock Fred Rubble 6'2", 19"5/8, 2"1/2, 31.6 liters?

The dims are almost the same, Rubble is even a little wider, both have the volume pushed forward, but I struggle to paddle into waves with the Rubble.

Once on the wave, Ill admit that the Rubble is a lot sharper, more performance focused.

But while this Pyzel is my go-to travelling board for good waves, fast, reliable, gets on the wave early, I was hoping the Rubble would be a good alternative/backup but for some reason it feels slow paddling/droping in.

Any insight as to why? Don't know if I should sell it or put more time into it.

Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2815684
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Maybe more entry rocker on rubble

Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2815724
06/30/18 02:37 PM
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More width under the chest of the shortcut, lower entry rocker.

Just put the boards together and look at where the foam is.

Also 1/2 liter more foam.

Is the shortcut a quad and the Rubble a tri? Ive found that the same board will get planing quicker as a quad than a tri (or its all in my head).

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Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2815730
06/30/18 03:05 PM
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Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2825464
07/24/18 05:34 PM
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I find that Pyzel's are probably 0.5 - 1.0 liter more buoyant than other brands (js, ci, hs). So maybe that's why the Pyzel seems to paddle so much better than the rubble.

Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2825520
07/24/18 07:30 PM
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Ghost entry rocker is much lower than Rubble, so you're going to paddle faster on the Ghost.

Re: fred rubble vs pyzel shortcut/ghost [Re: headcreeps] #2825530
07/24/18 08:08 PM
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similar experience w/ a stubby bastard (pu). when i first got it, i was like, "whoa this things kinda small."
paddles better than other bigger eps boards i have. def would try another pyzel in the future.


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