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#2816053 - 07/01/18 11:55 AM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Those stats do not surprise me. It also doesn't mean by any means necessary or that the same numbers will agree with any policy put in place to attain that.
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#2816056 - 07/01/18 12:09 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A majority of voters want immigration reform (73%) and secure borders (76%). Voters also want stricter enforcement of immigration laws (70%). Voters support prosecuting immigrants who cross the border illegally (53%) and sending these immigrants home (64%). A majority (55%) also stand against so-called “catch and release” policies.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-h...YmSWNas.twitter


Of course they do. They also want Santa to be real.

What the majority don't want is the tortuous way that idiot tRump, and that racist Sessions want to go about achieving the goal.

Punish the business owners who hire the illegals, and the problem dries up. Remember that "trickle down theory" the Republicans like so much?

The majority disagree with the heartless way tRump wants to stop illegal immigration with fear tactics.

The drug war strategy of hurting the end user failed in the same way.

History is obvious, and keeps repeating itself. So, either team tRump are either morons, and can't see the obvious, or they are evil.
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#2816058 - 07/01/18 12:21 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A majority of voters want immigration reform (73%) and secure borders (76%). Voters also want stricter enforcement of immigration laws (70%). Voters support prosecuting immigrants who cross the border illegally (53%) and sending these immigrants home (64%). A majority (55%) also stand against so-called “catch and release” policies.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-h...YmSWNas.twitter



I don't think your numbers are at odds with the sentiment of most liberals.

don't let your (un)biased news source trick you in to thinking those banish
ICE outliers speak for the entire bloc.

my take is that a lot of these protests are really rooted in a distaste for the
unnecessary cruelty that Team Trump have attempted to implement.
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#2816063 - 07/01/18 12:28 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: casa_mugrienta]
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I don't think there will be violence.

They are playing the long game and we're in the transition period.

Part 1 is the rise of SJW and identity politics.
Part 2 was the dumping of white male working class voters.
Part 3 Is becoming the party of low income/education minority groups that are the party's future. At least for a generation or two.

We are in the interim period between 2 and 3. A mass legalization of illegal immigrants would accelerate this transition.



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2016 was the first year since at least 1790 that the white, non-Hispanic population of the US declined. The number of whites fell by 9,000 between 2015 and 2016, and by 31,000 between 2016 and 2017. Conversely, the minority population increased by 4.7 million between 2015 and 2017. Also, there are for the first time more children who are minorities than whites at every age from zero to nine. -Elliot Eisenberg www.econ70.com


meanwhile, the GOP is fighting gerrymandering cases, rolling back portions
of the Voting Rights Act, creating new encumbrances, and generally pushing
back against attempts at making voting more accessible to all segments of
the population.
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#2816064 - 07/01/18 12:30 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Yes, most want border security and a reasonable immigration policy.

It's methods that is triggering.

This is retard law and order types acting on impulse.

A lot of the right moves are going to be counter intuitive and require the US to play the long game.

Don and Jeff are not up to the task, I fear.

They can wreck shit, for their own personal gain.

Of that I am sure.
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#2816077 - 07/01/18 01:04 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
It’s almost like media is a propaganda machine for Dems!





Have you ever thought that maybe facts don’t agree with your biased delusions?
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#2816079 - 07/01/18 01:06 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: manbearpig]
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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Those stats do not surprise me. It also doesn't mean by any means necessary or that the same numbers will agree with any policy put in place to attain that.


Exactly. It doesn’t mean that people want the Wall or putting kids in cages or to kill DACA.
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#2816089 - 07/01/18 01:37 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: drunjk]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A majority of voters want immigration reform (73%) and secure borders (76%). Voters also want stricter enforcement of immigration laws (70%). Voters support prosecuting immigrants who cross the border illegally (53%) and sending these immigrants home (64%). A majority (55%) also stand against so-called “catch and release” policies.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-h...YmSWNas.twitter


artist's rendition of billy logging in to the erBB:


That kind of rocks

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#2816090 - 07/01/18 01:45 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: Autoprax]
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Yes, most want border security and a reasonable immigration policy.

It's methods that is triggering.

This is retard law and order types acting on impulse.

A lot of the right moves are going to be counter intuitive and require the US to play the long game.

Don and Jeff are not up to the task, I fear.

They can wreck shit, for their own personal gain.

Of that I am sure.


How do you have border security without turning away people with sad stories?

How do you do it without deporting people? Including people with families?

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#2816091 - 07/01/18 01:46 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
It’s almost like media is a propaganda machine for Dems!





Have you ever thought that maybe facts don’t agree with your biased delusions?


Look at stats bro

You are in outer space

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#2816092 - 07/01/18 01:49 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
It’s almost like media is a propaganda machine for Dems!





Have you ever thought that maybe facts don’t agree with your biased delusions?


Fecal, have you ever stopped to consider the same?
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#2816093 - 07/01/18 01:51 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: afoaf]
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Originally Posted By: afoaf
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A majority of voters want immigration reform (73%) and secure borders (76%). Voters also want stricter enforcement of immigration laws (70%). Voters support prosecuting immigrants who cross the border illegally (53%) and sending these immigrants home (64%). A majority (55%) also stand against so-called “catch and release” policies.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-h...YmSWNas.twitter



I don't think your numbers are at odds with the sentiment of most liberals.

don't let your (un)biased news source trick you in to thinking those banish
ICE outliers speak for the entire bloc.

my take is that a lot of these protests are really rooted in a distaste for the
unnecessary cruelty that Team Trump have attempted to implement.



64% want to deport people who come here illegally

Clearly there have to be some dems in this number

But this does not seem to be the sentiment of the dem base

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#2816095 - 07/01/18 01:53 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Wait billy, I thought you said Harvard was the root of the elites and deep state?

Funny how when they put out something you agree with that changes.
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#2816101 - 07/01/18 01:58 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Originally Posted By: afoaf
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
A majority of voters want immigration reform (73%) and secure borders (76%). Voters also want stricter enforcement of immigration laws (70%). Voters support prosecuting immigrants who cross the border illegally (53%) and sending these immigrants home (64%). A majority (55%) also stand against so-called “catch and release” policies.

https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-h...YmSWNas.twitter



I don't think your numbers are at odds with the sentiment of most liberals.

don't let your (un)biased news source trick you in to thinking those banish
ICE outliers speak for the entire bloc.

my take is that a lot of these protests are really rooted in a distaste for the
unnecessary cruelty that Team Trump have attempted to implement.



64% want to deport people who come here illegally

Clearly there have to be some dems in this number

But this does not seem to be the sentiment of the dem base



Everybody wants to deport people who come here illegally.

There are different METHODS to acheive this. Trump's methods are fvcked up, hence the backlash.

There's common sense, humane way and there's fvcked in the head, imbecile way.

How fvcking hard is it to understand this?

Obama deported a record number of illegals.

Also, seeking asylum is not illegal.
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#2816104 - 07/01/18 02:02 PM Re: You wouldn’t know this from watching your unbiased news source [Re: BillyOcean]
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Clearly a significant portion of dems are against any deportation

What else does abolish ICE mean?

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