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Re: Couldn't we screen people before they buy an AR15? [Re: GWS] #2770177
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Originally Posted By: GWS
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Deaths by AR15s are statistically zero.



Statistician


He's pretty much right.

According to the FBI knives kill about five times as many people as all rifles combined.

That doesn't do you much good if you are one of the very few people killed by rifles in a given year, but the odds of that happening are extremely minute. You really can relax a little. Your obviously high levels of anxiety re this issue can't be good for you.

Do you have other phobias?



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My friend is afraid of jail.


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Originally Posted By: 1whoknowsnothing
Couldn't we screen people before they buy an AR15?


You mean like this?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/f...-53204/download

....revealing that, demanding what you really want would cause people to tell you to sit down and shut up.
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Re: Couldn't we screen people before they buy an AR15? [Re: 1whoknows] #2770274
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.


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Originally Posted By: GWS
A little perspective for you and I will leave you to your anxiety. According to the FBI, the total number of people killed by ALL rifles combined (over the last year for which stats are available) was 374. Literally, more people are killed by falling out of bed every year.

shrug



How many people were killed by Muslim terrorists in the US last year? Also a non-issue?


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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
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A little perspective for you and I will leave you to your anxiety. According to the FBI, the total number of people killed by ALL rifles combined (over the last year for which stats are available) was 374. Literally, more people are killed by falling out of bed every year.

shrug



How many people were killed by Muslim terrorists in the US last year? Also a non-issue?


A non issue?

It's a very low risk issue at the present time.

The odds of any of us being killed by a Muslim terrorist presently are very, very small. Kind of like the odds of being killed by a rifle.

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Originally Posted By: GWS
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A little perspective for you and I will leave you to your anxiety. According to the FBI, the total number of people killed by ALL rifles combined (over the last year for which stats are available) was 374. Literally, more people are killed by falling out of bed every year.

shrug



How many people were killed by Muslim terrorists in the US last year? Also a non-issue?


A non issue?

It's a very low risk issue at the present time.

The odds of any of us being killed by a Muslim terrorist presently are very, very small. Kind of like the odds of being killed by a rifle.


Bathtubs make for excellent armor.


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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.



Fully auto I get...and agree. All Semi auto? That's never going to happen. That's .22s, pistols, shotguns etc.

Magazine capacity I get, but just saying semi auto is a little much. A pump Shotgun is almost as effective as a semi auto and holds the same amount of shells. Take away the semi, and you just gotta pump..... so then what? no pump action? only single shot?

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Originally Posted By: jbd
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.



Fully auto I get...and agree. All Semi auto? That's never going to happen. That's .22s, pistols, shotguns etc.

Magazine capacity I get, but just saying semi auto is a little much. A pump Shotgun is almost as effective as a semi auto and holds the same amount of shells. Take away the semi, and you just gotta pump..... so then what? no pump action? only single shot?


He asked, I answered.

Pump takes time. If you want to fire a gun, you should be able to do a little loading work. That's an easy line to draw.


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Originally Posted By: GWS
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A little perspective for you and I will leave you to your anxiety. According to the FBI, the total number of people killed by ALL rifles combined (over the last year for which stats are available) was 374. Literally, more people are killed by falling out of bed every year.

shrug



How many people were killed by Muslim terrorists in the US last year? Also a non-issue?


A non issue?

It's a very low risk issue at the present time.

The odds of any of us being killed by a Muslim terrorist presently are very, very small. Kind of like the odds of being killed by a rifle.


Yet many gun lovers here are scared to death of Muslims because terrorist! GDaddy would sell his first born if it meant no more Arabs.


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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
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Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.



Fully auto I get...and agree. All Semi auto? That's never going to happen. That's .22s, pistols, shotguns etc.

Magazine capacity I get, but just saying semi auto is a little much. A pump Shotgun is almost as effective as a semi auto and holds the same amount of shells. Take away the semi, and you just gotta pump..... so then what? no pump action? only single shot?


He asked, I answered.

Pump takes time. If you want to fire a gun, you should be able to do a little loading work. That's an easy line to draw.


At least your'e being honest.
I don't own a semi-auto shotgun, but I do have a competition over and under and a couple of my dads 870 pumps , I shoot high 90s with the O&U and mid 80s (out of 100) on the sporting clay courses here. I consistently beat guys with semi-autos. The rate of fire matter less than accuracy in clays and sporting clays....and hunting.

(The advantage of O&U and semi-auto is you don't have to reacquire a target like when you have to pump a shotgun. )
semi holds 5 , O&U only 2.

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and that makes mass killing a lot harder, no? Not impossible, but a lot harder.


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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: 1whoknows
What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.



Fully auto are already virtually impossible to own and have been since the 1920s or 30s.

Curious why you would want to take away my semi-auto firearms? All of them? Even my grand-pop's .22 semi auto rifle and Remington 1100 semi-auto shotgun that he left me in his will? Based on what logic? Your feelz?????


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

Conservatives get angry when you lie to them. Liberals get angry when you tell
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole
and that makes mass killing a lot harder, no? Not impossible, but a lot harder.

Yes it would.
The problem you will have is criminals (mass murder types) , (who we have established already on the erBB aren't responsible) will not turn in their semi or fully auto weapons. Only the "law bidding, responsible citizens like myself will. In fantasy world it would be a great solution but in the real world you aren't getting all the guns that are already out there back.....ever. The black market...sold on the streets. etc.
I wish there was a magic wand solution, but there isn't.
Limiting magazine and adopting a CA gun law nationwide and having a mental heath database would be a good start. If you go after all or semi guns chance are you won't get anything done. Baby steps.

for the record, you already can't own full auto unless you have a fed stamp. (hard and costly to get)

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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
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What weapons should people NOT be allowed to possess, and why?


I've already gave you a list, but let's make it easy: all fully or semi-automatic weapons.



Fully auto are already virtually impossible to own and have been since the 1920s or 30s.

Curious why you would want to take away my semi-auto firearms? All of them? Even my grand-pop's .22 semi auto rifle and Remington 1100 semi-auto shotgun that he left me in his will? Based on what logic? Your feelz?????


How quickly you forget Vegas shooting. Bump stocks are legal.
I believe you can buy a full auto in Nevada too. At least I know people who have a ton of them.

And then there's Kentucky:


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scalpels =/= AR 15

You need to outlaw that vacuum cleaner tool that sucks the little innocent snot baby out of the womb.


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