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Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear #2769702
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Stevens is a smart guy

Intellectually honest too

Even though I dont agree with a lot of his positions he always has a reasoned POV

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exactly! all the gun nuts conveniently forget about the "well regulated militia" part of the 2nd amendment.
Repeal and Replace! Or be prepare to be regulated.

Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: StuAzole] #2769738
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Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: StuAzole] #2769752
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The implicit point is that it will take a repeal of 2A to solve the problem

Which is pretty much DOA

Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: StuAzole] #2769778
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Originally Posted By: StuAzole


I welcome that debate. Lets have at it. Democrats should go for it. Do it now. Could be the republican's best chance to hold the House and Senate.

The more democrats talk about the 2nd Amendment the more votes Republicans will get.


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

Conservatives get angry when you lie to them. Liberals get angry when you tell
them the truth.
Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: GromsDad] #2769784
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: StuAzole


I welcome that debate. Lets have at it. Democrats should go for it. Do it now. Could be the republican's best chance to hold the House and Senate.

The more democrats talk about the 2nd Amendment the more votes Republicans will get.


you keep saying that, but the NRA member roll is only so big. And it's already active.


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Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: BillyOcean] #2769787
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
The implicit point is that it will take a repeal of 2A to solve the problem

Which is pretty much DOA

I've been saying this for a while now


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Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: BillyOcean] #2769808
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
The implicit point is that it will take a repeal of 2A to solve the problem

Which is pretty much DOA


I dont think 2A needs to be repealed.

It needs to be amended and brought into the 21st century.

The 2A is a relic of the founding era more than two centuries ago. Its purpose is long past.

AR15 =\= muskets

Well regulated militia =\= hobby

Society changed in the last 200+ years, much to the dismay of the gun turds who are desperately trying to turn the clock back to the good old days.

2A was created around the concern that was relevant perhaps for a few years around the birth of the country.

It is irrelevant today.

Deal with it gun turds.

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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
The implicit point is that it will take a repeal of 2A to solve the problem

Which is pretty much DOA


I dont think 2A needs to be repealed.

It needs to be amended and brought into the 21st century.

The 2A is a relic of the founding era more than two centuries ago. Its purpose is long past.

AR15 =\= muskets

Well regulated militia =\= hobby

Society changed in the last 200+ years, much to the dismay of the gun turds who are desperately trying to turn the clock back to the good old days.

2A was created around the concern that was relevant perhaps for a few years around the birth of the country.

It is irrelevant today.

Deal with it gun turds.





Tyranny no longer exists? Could never happen here?


What's the difference between conservatives and liberals?

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Same with the other amendments like that pesky 1A

Computer =/= printing press

Luckily we've already gotten rid of that other 18th Century remnant, the 4A


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Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Same with the other amendments like that pesky 1A

Computer =/= printing press

Luckily we've already gotten rid of that other 18th Century remnant, the 4A


Atribute substitution.

A severe one.

As always, you lack nuance.

Re: Justice Stevens Saying What IFall Wants to Hear [Re: GromsDad] #2769829
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Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Tyranny no longer exists? Could never happen here?



No, a tyranny will not happen here.

And if it does, how does the fact that you have an AR15 change that?

It wont.

Its not 1791.

What well organized militia do you belong to?

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Amendment is just as procedurally difficult as repeal

And any amendment would be characterized as repeal

Look how gun nuts flip over the most minor proposals on regulation

My point was, at least Stevens is honest about the issue here

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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Amendment is just as procedurally difficult as repeal

And any amendment would be characterized as repeal

Look how gun nuts flip over the most minor proposals on regulation

My point was, at least Stevens is honest about the issue here


Yeah but the tide is turning.

It may take a few years/decades for the gun turd dinosaur population to die off.

I probably wont be alive to see it.

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