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Fins for a DVS rocket fish #2727247
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Right now have DVS shapers fins keels, which he supposedly recommends . 5050 foil and pretty interesting but want to experiment. Havenít really ridden the board yet, today was maiden voyage but waves were pretty terrible. Had a few good ones though. Not sure it wants big keels but something HP based. Maybe Rasta keels but heard they might be same as the DVS shapers? Any other suggestions?

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I put these in my twin and now prefer them to the 50/50 hatchet keels the board came with.



Here's what my twin (and its fin placement) looks like for reference:







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what are you looking for the board to do more of? aside from genERATE SOME F*(&###)(#)*(#$)(#$ SWELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How do I get those hatchet fins?

I think the Akilas might be too small but I have a set Iíll try.

Want to go fast and lay some carves down. Itís geared for good waves and is not a groveler. Still relatively wide tail.

Reposting a photo for reference. Sheís 5í7, deep dual vee single concave thing.

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sounds like you want a clean swept basic keel. nothing upright nor trick foils.....50/50 still suck so maybe 80/.20.

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I have another keel set, but theyíre relatively big but flat inside. Will have to compare when i return home.

Hereís best shot of current fins I got




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You can get the hatchets via kryptsurf.com.

But I didn't like the 50/50 foil and found I preferred the flat foiled Akila's instead. Better speed generation and more predictable turns.

I too thought the Akila's would be too small for my application, but they feel really good. Not sure how far forward your fins are set, but they might be worth a try.


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I had them in one on his boards, akilas, which had a narrower tail than my DVS. Still lots of fish influence in the dick Van. Itíll be worth a try, the vees in the tail i imagine create some hold. Never have seen anyone use Akila style twins in one of these boards though.

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Anyone try the Shapers Asher Pacey retro keels?


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unless the board is glued.....that is MUCH more pivoty as opposed to carve unless you're running some kind of trailer to super foiled and very lonnnng swallow...and then its still pivoty

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Good point on that. Been awhile since Iíve used that style twin, since my akila aipa, and it was much more pivoty.

What about K2ís? Or are the Rasta keels the way to go?

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Swapped a Firewire evo TT with a guy for a brand new DVS rocket fish 6'9" with shapers keels. Mine is poly with concave set in a V out through the tail rather than the hydro hull like in Manbearpig's board. Also has a full chine rail. Built for a older fellow. Suits me just fine.
Took it for a spin this morning and it felt way too stiff. Was at tea tree Noosa but a veritable horde out there scrapping over dead ordinary, waist to head high lumpy waves. Not my scene at all. Derek Hynd was out there doing his friction free thang so that was a plus. So put the front fins of a McCallum quad set into it and took it out again later in the morning in onshore waves at my local point. At least it was bigger and with only 3-4 of us out there.
Board was happy to turn and I could feel a little slide happening here and there but a vast improvement over the keels. So dropped into local shop afterwards and grabbed some EN twins. Will give them a run tomorrow morning. Should work well as a bit more base and height than the McCallum quad fronts.
So @Manbearpig, did you ever get some twins to try in the rocket fish and if so how did they go?


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I had the same experience with the Shapers DVS fins. I just got a set of Lovelace piggybacks but have yet to try. Iíll report back. Let me know how those go for ya, still figuring this board out

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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
I had the same experience with the Shapers DVS fins. I just got a set of Lovelace piggybacks but have yet to try. Iíll report back. Let me know how those go for ya, still figuring this board out


How does the DVS fish feel / perform vs other fish ? have you tried a gary mcneil ? I had the wasp from DVS in 5'10, turned out to be a massive boat. I love my cv2 from Gary thou

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Originally Posted By: manbearpig
I had the same experience with the Shapers DVS fins. I just got a set of Lovelace piggybacks but have yet to try. Iíll report back. Let me know how those go for ya, still figuring this board out
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The EN's work really well but I'm on a way longer board...would like to run a set of sea shepherd knock offs I have for point waves though I have a feeling the K2s would also be better since I have plenty of rail to use. Taking into acct I'm riding a 6'9" compared to your board if into more upright twins I'd be looking at Apias or Rasta/Machado twins for your board. A lot less area than the EN's. For keels I'd be going for K2's since I haven't googled the Lovelace Piggybacks yet I'm just throwing the K2's in there for future reference just in case..
My old DVS rocket fish was one of the first he ever made with a set of glassed on carbon hatchets and a small nubster glassed on trailer. Had the extreme hydro hull bottom and fluted rail on the twin pins. Was an absolute mind machine in good hollow waves...think about a turn in an upcoming section and before you finished thinking it had done the turn already.
McNeill CV2's I've had were good but I liked the RTT twin more.


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Iím still figuring it out to be honest. I havenít ridden it a whole lot so I need to give it a real shot. I do have a slight fear it is too big for me. My last session in NJ on it was head-overhead and barreling and the board worked very good in that.

Would love to give a Mcneill a shot.

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Originally Posted By: Retropete
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
I had the same experience with the Shapers DVS fins. I just got a set of Lovelace piggybacks but have yet to try. Iíll report back. Let me know how those go for ya, still figuring this board out
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The EN's work really well but I'm on a way longer board...would like to run a set of sea shepherd knock offs I have for point waves though I have a feeling the K2s would also be better since I have plenty of rail to use. Taking into acct I'm riding a 6'9" compared to your board if into more upright twins I'd be looking at Apias or Rasta/Machado twins for your board. A lot less area than the EN's. For keels I'd be going for K2's since I haven't googled the Lovelace Piggybacks yet I'm just throwing the K2's in there for future reference just in case..
My old DVS rocket fish was one of the first he ever made with a set of glassed on carbon hatchets and a small nubster glassed on trailer. Had the extreme hydro hull bottom and fluted rail on the twin pins. Was an absolute mind machine in good hollow waves...think about a turn in an upcoming section and before you finished thinking it had done the turn already.
McNeill CV2's I've had were good but I liked the RTT twin more.

Wow your OG rocket sounds pretty sweet. I do worry the aipaís will be on the small end but I have a set somewhere to eventually try. The lovelaces seem to be a good middle ground between the k2 and aipa fins so Iím excited to try.


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Reckon that Lovelace keel should be a marked improvement on the DVS keels.


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http://www.thesaltymerchants.com/twin-fins/electric-twins-keel-x7zzy

These look like the best of both worlds to me

That RL fin is just ugly to me

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I like the looks of those. Will give the Lovelace fins a shot first and see how they go.

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I really like the T2's on my RTT. I go between those and the Christenson keels from Capn' Fin, depending on conditions. I dont use the keels much when I'm on the East Coast.

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Not too tech savvy so here's a link to another forum I could post pics on.
https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Surf...-not-LB?page=31
Started looking at both the Salty Merchants and Captain fin Co websites at twins.
Lots of variety available now. Thanks retro hipster dudes.


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I've got a dvs 5'6 rocket fish and a 5'7 hydro hull. The hull has glassed ins. Very different baords.
I found the dvs shapers fins in the rocket fish quite stiff. Be good in solid surf. But I used the new Rasta keels in the rocket fish in small surf and that loosened up the board heaps.
But rocket fishs surf almost like a single fin. Especially with the v out the back.

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Originally Posted By: Retropete
Not too tech savvy so here's a link to another forum I could post pics on.
https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Surf...-not-LB?page=31
Started looking at both the Salty Merchants and Captain fin Co websites at twins.
Lots of variety available now. Thanks retro hipster dudes.

Nice board! Yeah I got to agree with you on the increase in fin options for twins. When I started to get really into them there wasnít much options available, especially for HP twins.

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Really enjoying the rocket fish...especially with the EN's in it. Some nice overhead beachbreak waves this am and the board loves a late drop and an open face.
Great board in longer lengths for bigger/older/taller guys that want to ride an alternative type of board in good waves.


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Hoping to get some advice.... currently on the Gold Coast and picked up a DVS Quad skate from the boardroom. Board came with the DVS keel fins, took the board out this am during a high tide Greenmount session. Had some good moments and other times felt the board lacked drive. Again def a little weak with the tide, but feel a better fin set will work better. I havenít had fcs in 8 years and if someone has this board or any advice with fcs Iíd appreciate the help. cheers

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With the quad skate's wide tail I prefer twin fins in the front with gxqs, DVS sidebites or M3s in the rear plugs. Depends upon how much hold you require in the tail.
I've ridden the DVS quad keels in many different boards and have found some I didn't mind them in but invariably found a different set of fins that worked better. I would find they would have an unpredictable release when you least wanted them to as well.
Even a regular set of quad fins (erring on the larger templates due to tail width) would be preferrable to the quad keels imho. Drop back in and see Ant and see if he's happy to swap them for another set of fins.
One way or another looks like today may be the last chance to ride it for a few days at least. Normally when I buy a new board a flat spell is guaranteed. Well played: anywhere from 10-25' inbound from later today.


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Thanks RetroPete super helpful. Heading back to NJ on Friday morning so Iíll get some fins back in the states. Looks like itís gonna to get big fast... stoked to have brought my stretch 2x4.

Did give it a go at a punchy beach break this am and had better results, but def a better fin will make this beauty magic.

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Man... you're going to miss what looks like being a swell that is talked about for a long time to come.
The weather could be gnarly as well though.


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