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#2721732 - 12/11/17 02:49 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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#2721736 - 12/11/17 02:56 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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Mock it if you want, but the white homeless guy or the white convict or the white hippy who isn't conforming suffers while the POC who does conform thrives. Complimentary > conflicting

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#2721741 - 12/11/17 03:00 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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It cracks me up that the complaint starts out with whitey's preference to think of himself as colorless and he needs to be more mindful of his whiteness. Then when whitey reacts accordingly and gets as serious about his whiteness as everyone else does the complaint is that he's not apologizing for being white.

The stupidity is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature - people will tend to act in their own self-interests.

If people tend to act in their own self-interests, then it's entirely predictable what it will look like when whitey is forced to participate in identity politics. It won't manifest as a mass surrender, or self-restraint in the various forms of competition in which people participate. It won't manifest as someone holding his neighbor's interests over those of his own household. It won't manifest as him actively rejecting his own interests or apologizing for his strengths.


Yes

And what the racial pimps fail to see is that there is a spectrum of identity politics which can be adopted by whites

It includes white supremacism, but there is a range well below this

It is really dumb politics for minority groups to ask the majority to consider themselves an ethnic block

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#2721761 - 12/11/17 03:40 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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"Racial pimps" is a term that fits the white power people, too.

I dunno about "dumb", but I think it's short sighted. I don't see how these folks have taken into consideration the effects of this trend when taken to its logical conclusion. If society is to break down into ever more fractured bubbles of "intersectionality" where the various affinity groups are even more discreetly defined, what you end up with is even fewer of "us" and even more of "them" - and this "fewer of us" is even more true for the freaks and geeks than for normal people who just want to TCOB every day .

When one group decides to put their interests first the others are faced with two choices - to either let that group get away with putting themselves first or else meeting that challenge directly and competitively.

The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.
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#2721803 - 12/11/17 04:34 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It cracks me up that the complaint starts out with whitey's preference to think of himself as colorless and he needs to be more mindful of his whiteness. Then when whitey reacts accordingly and gets as serious about his whiteness as everyone else does the complaint is that he's not apologizing for being white.

The stupidity is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature - people will tend to act in their own self-interests.

If people tend to act in their own self-interests, then it's entirely predictable what it will look like when whitey is forced to participate in identity politics. It won't manifest as a mass surrender, or self-restraint in the various forms of competition in which people participate. It won't manifest as someone holding his neighbor's interests over those of his own household. It won't manifest as him actively rejecting his own interests or apologizing for his strengths.


...reparations, tribunals, councils on reconciliation and forgiveness aside.
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#2721806 - 12/11/17 04:35 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: test_article]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It cracks me up that the complaint starts out with whitey's preference to think of himself as colorless and he needs to be more mindful of his whiteness. Then when whitey reacts accordingly and gets as serious about his whiteness as everyone else does the complaint is that he's not apologizing for being white.

The stupidity is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature - people will tend to act in their own self-interests.

If people tend to act in their own self-interests, then it's entirely predictable what it will look like when whitey is forced to participate in identity politics. It won't manifest as a mass surrender, or self-restraint in the various forms of competition in which people participate. It won't manifest as someone holding his neighbor's interests over those of his own household. It won't manifest as him actively rejecting his own interests or apologizing for his strengths.


...reparations, tribunals, councils on reconciliation and forgiveness aside.


People acting in what they perceive to be their own best interests. "Interests" comprising more than just a few elements.
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#2721834 - 12/11/17 05:20 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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The take on race/identity from the Social Justice crowd is interesting. Because they always start off with race/sex/ is just a "social construct" and borderline imaginary. So you're like, even though that is demonstrably false I will roll with it since if it's only a social construct maybe there's some way to stop defining everything through its (race's) lens. Then the people flip it on its head and berate people about race, define them strictly and rigidly according to these social constructs, and then offer no (ahem) "constructive" solutions to the problems they've identified. Which one is it? Is race a figment of our imagination or is it the only thing that matters because it cannot be both.


Edited by Oakleys_N_Zinka (12/11/17 05:21 PM)
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#2721848 - 12/11/17 05:44 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: Oakleys_N_Zinka]
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The take on race/identity from the Social Justice crowd is interesting. Because they always start off with race/sex/ is just a "social construct" and borderline imaginary. So you're like, even though that is demonstrably false I will roll with it since if it's only a social construct maybe there's some way to stop defining everything through its (race's) lens. Then the people flip it on its head and berate people about race, define them strictly and rigidly according to these social constructs, and then offer no (ahem) "constructive" solutions to the problems they've identified. Which one is it? Is race a figment of our imagination or is it the only thing that matters because it cannot be both.


The human race, as the only thing that matters, is a figment of our imagination.
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#2721854 - 12/11/17 06:06 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
"Racial pimps" is a term that fits the white power people, too.

I dunno about "dumb", but I think it's short sighted. I don't see how these folks have taken into consideration the effects of this trend when taken to its logical conclusion. If society is to break down into ever more fractured bubbles of "intersectionality" where the various affinity groups are even more discreetly defined, what you end up with is even fewer of "us" and even more of "them" - and this "fewer of us" is even more true for the freaks and geeks than for normal people who just want to TCOB every day .

When one group decides to put their interests first the others are faced with two choices - to either let that group get away with putting themselves first or else meeting that challenge directly and competitively.

The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.


Completely agree that white supremacists are the exact same thing they despise

Fortunately all of these racial pimps are self parodies

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#2721855 - 12/11/17 06:08 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy
"Racial pimps" is a term that fits the white power people, too.

I dunno about "dumb", but I think it's short sighted. I don't see how these folks have taken into consideration the effects of this trend when taken to its logical conclusion. If society is to break down into ever more fractured bubbles of "intersectionality" where the various affinity groups are even more discreetly defined, what you end up with is even fewer of "us" and even more of "them" - and this "fewer of us" is even more true for the freaks and geeks than for normal people who just want to TCOB every day .

When one group decides to put their interests first the others are faced with two choices - to either let that group get away with putting themselves first or else meeting that challenge directly and competitively.

The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.


Completely agree that white supremacists are the exact same thing they despise

Fortunately all of these racial pimps are self parodies

You can say that twice.
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#2721859 - 12/11/17 06:19 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.


Nuh huh.

I don't know what "groups" are you referring to. You've been known to refer to African Americans as the "black community" as though that's a thing. Like they have gathering in which they decide they will wear hip-hop clothes - another pet peeves of yours.

Mankind was not bread to compete on the basis of race.

That's learned behavior.
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#2721867 - 12/11/17 06:33 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: test_article]
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Originally Posted By: Oakleys_N_Zinka
The take on race/identity from the Social Justice crowd is interesting. Because they always start off with race/sex/ is just a "social construct" and borderline imaginary. So you're like, even though that is demonstrably false I will roll with it since if it's only a social construct maybe there's some way to stop defining everything through its (race's) lens. Then the people flip it on its head and berate people about race, define them strictly and rigidly according to these social constructs, and then offer no (ahem) "constructive" solutions to the problems they've identified. Which one is it? Is race a figment of our imagination or is it the only thing that matters because it cannot be both.



The human race, as the only thing that matters, is a figment of our imagination.


Take another hit Tommy Chong.
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#2721871 - 12/11/17 06:45 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: Oakleys_N_Zinka]
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Originally Posted By: Oakleys_N_Zinka
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Oakleys_N_Zinka
The take on race/identity from the Social Justice crowd is interesting. Because they always start off with race/sex/ is just a "social construct" and borderline imaginary. So you're like, even though that is demonstrably false I will roll with it since if it's only a social construct maybe there's some way to stop defining everything through its (race's) lens. Then the people flip it on its head and berate people about race, define them strictly and rigidly according to these social constructs, and then offer no (ahem) "constructive" solutions to the problems they've identified. Which one is it? Is race a figment of our imagination or is it the only thing that matters because it cannot be both.



The human race, as the only thing that matters, is a figment of our imagination.


Take another hit Tommy Chong.


He's right.

In grad school I put for the idea that there was a world that existed beneath the world of thoughts and ideas. And everyone looked at me like I was crazy.

Only later did I learn that I was right.
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#2721875 - 12/11/17 07:01 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: FecalFace]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy


The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.


Nuh huh.

I don't know what "groups" are you referring to. You've been known to refer to African Americans as the "black community" as though that's a thing. Like they have gathering in which they decide they will wear hip-hop clothes - another pet peeves of yours.

Mankind was not bread to compete on the basis of race.

That's learned behavior.



I said

Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.
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I did not say

Mankind was bread to compete on the basis of race.

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If you disagree, you're more than welcome to cite your reasoning.
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#2721902 - 12/11/17 08:06 PM Re: CNN: These are your white allies on Facebook [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy


The history of mankind tells us exactly what will happen in such a situation, Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.


Nuh huh.

I don't know what "groups" are you referring to. You've been known to refer to African Americans as the "black community" as though that's a thing. Like they have gathering in which they decide they will wear hip-hop clothes - another pet peeves of yours.

Mankind was not bread to compete on the basis of race.

That's learned behavior.



I said

Mankind has literally been bred for competition rather than collaboration.
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I did not say

Mankind was bread to compete on the basis of race.

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If you disagree, you're more than welcome to cite your reasoning.


Mankind owes its success to it's capacity for social engagement.

See Porges' "Poly vagal theory"

We are the cooperation species.

Things get sticky when things get crowded.

A brazilian surfer at a lonely spooky point break in the middle of nowhere is a long lost friend.
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