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#2712746 - 11/17/17 01:34 AM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: Autoprax]
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Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: shiver_me_timbers
After spending a week in PPK's neighborhood and seeing how many foils are flying around Middles, its obvious to me that foils are here to stay. They're more exciting than SUP by far, and very adaptable to every discipline (kite, windsurf, prone paddle, SUP, etc). Where I was struggling to paddle in on a 9'6" SUP, my buddy on the foil (that's his board that PPK posted) was taking two or three paddles and then pumping the foil onto the wave and taking off.

Sunset Cliffs will be a great place for foiling, especially at high tide when its not quite breaking.

While surfing I saw Laird and someone else in his little aluminum boat, coming back in, with foils in the boat. So I guess you can continue to blame him. wink

Pretty cool to see the enthusiasm of the foiling tribe. Its refreshing to see so much stock.

Here is a pic of TJ foiling last week on a non-breaking swell. If you want a foil, he is a distributor (except for HI). PM me and I'll put you in touch with him. No, I don't get any $$ for that.


To me, the cool thing about the foil is you don't need to surf quality waves in a crowded line up.

That is exciting at this point.




Yep, the cool thing about foils is they don't need to surf quality waves in a crowded line up.....

What will be exciting is when they do (might?) enter a crowded line up and the waves are really pumping, double over head plus, in waves that have some degree of consequence.

That would be something to see....

Still waiting for the sends, tomahawks and scorpions.... I guess I will have to wait and see.



.....I am goingoutside now....we all know the feeling of being caught inside.....

...I wonder what it feels like to be caught inside on a big day with a foil?

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#2712940 - 11/17/17 02:49 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Currently foil design isnt for over head or even hollow waves so theyll never be seen in standard surfing waves.
The foils are designed to create a lot of lift on small waves , in bigger waves theyre unstable thats why no ones taking off at Pipe on one.
But it will happen.
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#2712967 - 11/17/17 03:19 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SURFFOILS]
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Originally Posted By: SURFFOILS
Currently foil design isnt for over head or even hollow waves so theyll never be seen in standard surfing waves.
The foils are designed to create a lot of lift on small waves , in bigger waves theyre unstable thats why no ones taking off at Pipe on one.
But it will happen.


It may, and probably will, but my thoughts are that "the mast" will have to be shorter and perhaps the foils, even Wider apart for both foils, front and back ~ personal theory, is all ~
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#2713087 - 11/17/17 05:59 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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ay caramba boyz, it's already in the surf. just cause it hasn't happened in hi yet, doesn't mean it's not already going down somewhere else in the surfing world.

it has expanded a bit in the past three four decades ya know?

shrug
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#2713370 - 11/18/17 03:53 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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The width isnt necessary, its kinds like riding a bike, once you get going it has its own balance sideways.

https://www.swaylocks.com/forums/how-to-build-your-own-surfcraft-hydrofoil?page=19
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#2713437 - 11/18/17 09:43 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SURFFOILS]
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Originally Posted By: SURFFOILS
...so theyll never be seen in standard surfing waves.


Obviously you didn't read the original post. They are already in the lineup in "standard surfing waves" Most surfing occurs in neither overhead nor hollow surf.
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#2713439 - 11/18/17 10:10 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Biggest I've gone out with DK and friends, was 4-5' (HI) at Pier 1. Conditions were pristine with no wind and it was lined up good. The speed is addicting. Rolling up and down the face on bigger swell without having to pump is soo much fun.

I only have the Kai foil which is the smaller one from GoFoil, so when it's under head hi I gotta do abit of work over the flatter spots.

There also different lengths of the mast, the part that connects the wing to the board. Mine is 24" but think I'd like to try longer.

Been hearing about spots on O'ahu that may draw us over there in the summer when here on Maui get's blocked.
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#2713538 - 11/19/17 11:52 AM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Hey now, I thought the official Maui line was no day trippers!

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#2713622 - 11/19/17 03:37 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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just wait until you see one of those foils after the rider has fallen off, the leash has detached and it has a headhigh wall of foam behind it tomahawking it down the line. duck, duck, goose!
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#2713670 - 11/19/17 08:27 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Check Dave Kalama's IG from today... shocked
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbsNquclAs4/

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#2713744 - 11/20/17 08:43 AM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: tenover]
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Originally Posted By: tenover
Check Dave Kalama's IG from today... shocked
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbsNquclAs4/


Austin is pushing the limits of equipment abuse. Wonder what the tolerance of the carbon mast will be. shrug
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#2713784 - 11/20/17 10:38 AM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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I was wondering when I would see some footholds!

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#2713806 - 11/20/17 12:01 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: Mr_Stagger_Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Stagger_Lee
I was wondering when I would see some footholds!


footholds = "strap's" per Laird, Dave Kalama & Derick Dorhner wink2

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#2713820 - 11/20/17 12:29 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Ooops..."straps" it is! LOL

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#2714180 - 11/21/17 01:14 PM Re: Foils in Crowded Lineups [Re: SenorBlues]
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Check Dave Kalama's IG from today... shocked
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbsNquclAs4/

I have never seen such forgiving rails!

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