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Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: jkb] #2944362
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I was under the impression it was the thermovents that XTR patented and not the tool, but I don’t know for sure. Seems like if you didn’t want to pay to use their tool, you could just drill some small holes in the glass.......hence the thermovent patent shrug



That's exactly what Rusty did and it didn't work.



There has to be more to it than the thermoventing tool, right? Maybe XTR has a proprietary XPS and/or epoxy make up that helps as well?


They definitely have sole use of their particular kind of XPS. No one else can get it. And they most certainly have their own epoxy. As I said previously, I think it's the construction as a whole rather than just XPS and epoxy with some holes.

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Originally Posted by crotchgrab
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I was under the impression it was the thermovents that XTR patented and not the tool, but I don’t know for sure. Seems like if you didn’t want to pay to use their tool, you could just drill some small holes in the glass.......hence the thermovent patent shrug



That's exactly what Rusty did and it didn't work.



There has to be more to it than the thermoventing tool, right? Maybe XTR has a proprietary XPS and/or epoxy make up that helps as well?


They definitely have sole use of their particular kind of XPS. No one else can get it. And they most certainly have their own epoxy. As I said previously, I think it's the construction as a whole rather than just XPS and epoxy with some holes.


That makes sense.


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Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: BillyOcean] #2944369
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I'm no reverse engineer, but if I had to guess they are coating the foam in something before glassing.

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Originally Posted by Racer1
I'm no reverse engineer, but if I had to guess they are coating the foam in something before glassing.


That makes sense. It might be something that aids the resin into the foam in some way.

Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: BillyOcean] #2962893
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I ordered a twin to replace my existing one. I got this one in Torsion Spring during the Memorial Day sale. It was super easy. I sent an email to the customer support explaining how I wanted to tweak my existing twin fin. Rusty emailed me back that day. We exchanged several emails and, once I paid, he sent me a file for approval. It was a good experience. And I was stocked that Rusty emailed me and designed my board. For whatever reason, I assumed that he's not taking custom orders. But that's clearly not the case.

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Originally Posted by J_D_J
I ordered a twin to replace my existing one. I got this one in Torsion Spring during the Memorial Day sale. It was super easy. I sent an email to the customer support explaining how I wanted to tweak my existing twin fin. Rusty emailed me back that day. We exchanged several emails and, once I paid, he sent me a file for approval. It was a good experience. And I was stocked that Rusty emailed me and designed my board. For whatever reason, I assumed that he's not taking custom orders. But that's clearly not the case.


Good to hear. What refinements did you make?

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I have a stock 6'0, 19.5, 2.3. I changed it to the flat deck, wider nose version that was on display at the Board Room Show. The new one will be 5'10, 19.85, 2.19. A little over 30 L. Thickness is misleading because the thickness is carried to the rail.

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Excited to try this build. I know that Rusty's epoxy glassing is as good as it gets.

Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: J_D_J] #2963272
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Originally Posted by J_D_J
Excited to try this build. I know that Rusty's epoxy glassing is as good as it gets.


Post a pic. The new Torsion Spring Cloth is Blu'ish, right?


Was just at the factory and got to tour around a bit. Saw the new flat decked Hatchet and the other one like it that's more of a HP Shortboard design (forget the name) as mentioned the flat deck design keeps the rails thick out to the edge (which seems weird).


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I'll post a pic when I get the board. Not sure about the color of the carbon kevlar they're using.

Flat decks have an interesting feel. I've had a couple of Parmenter's flat-deck boards based on Rusty's. They're thin with a minimal foil, so the nose and tail thickness are not dramatically different than the center.

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... and the other one like it that's more of a HP Shortboard design (forget the name) as mentioned the flat deck design keeps the rails thick out to the edge (which seems weird).




Do tell...dedicated twin?

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Sorry to repost this in another thread, but similar model as this bad boy?
I might buy even though its big because it looks so fun

https://usedsurf.com/59-rusty-twin-fin-used-surfboard-21186/

Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: crotchgrab] #2963528
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Originally Posted by crotchgrab
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... and the other one like it that's more of a HP Shortboard design (forget the name) as mentioned the flat deck design keeps the rails thick out to the edge (which seems weird).




Do tell...dedicated twin?


Here ya go... Hatchet on the left and I forget the name of the one on the right, but its another new model. I believe both were sporting 5 fin boxes. Will probably be up on the website soon with all the details.

I must say that's a damn chunky rail, but maybe it works different than most would think..??.. The flat decks are very apparent.

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Re: Rusty Torsion Spring [Re: BillyOcean] #2963531
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Oh baby, I want that hatchet.

Got an XTR blade that should be arriving soon. Maybe I should have went thinner than I did! Rails looks chunky.

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