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Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2994477
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P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...

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Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2994656
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Lots of lies, omissions, logical fails, speculation, erroneous conclusions, defensive language, complex inventions, new definitions of perspective, etcs.

FE-ers getting more desperate with every new sunrise.






Originally Posted by Bohter
P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...

shrug


Last edited by Driftcoast; 08/09/19 03:52 PM. Reason: HTML tagged to show the lies in the YoutTube
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2994957
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Originally Posted by Bohter
P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SLWU5oLlklw" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
shrug

This guy is dumber than dogshit! That's all I have to say on him. If you think he's right then you are as pea brained as him.
I'm over the lying, cherry picking, mis-representation and overall stupidity of these dickheads making FE videos.
Carry on!


Caution: excessive Kool Aid consumption may lead to a bitter aftertaste!
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Driftcoast] #2994995
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Originally Posted by Driftcoast
Lots of lies, omissions, logical fails, speculation, erroneous conclusions, defensive language, complex inventions, new definitions of perspective, etcs.

FE-ers getting more desperate with every new sunrise.






Originally Posted by Bohter
P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SLWU5oLlklw" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
shrug



Lies....please point 'em out.
Omissions....where and about what?
Logical fails...like how?
Speculation....which parts?
Erroneous conclusions....Which ones?
Defensive language....point it out...
Complex inventions....which ones....
New definitions of perspective....please contrast with our old definitions of perspective....what's new about what P-Brane said?
shrug


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Retropete] #2994997
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Originally Posted by Retropete
Originally Posted by Bohter
P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SLWU5oLlklw" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
shrug

This guy is dumber than dogshit! That's all I have to say on him. If you think he's right then you are as pea brained as him.
I'm over the lying, cherry picking, mis-representation and overall stupidity of these dickheads making FE videos.
Carry on!



Please point out the lying...explain why he's wrong....where he's cherry picking....what he mis-represented....why is it stupid....please do.
shrug


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995039
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Why do the bottom of things get cut off along horizon? Here's a few slides to help you in your understanding.....that they're not going below the globe horizon....the effect is entirely optical....
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Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995045
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After processing the above post's four slides.....now take a look at these scenes again....and ask yourself.....can inferior mirages / upward refraction hide things along the horizon....if no....then ask yourself....if it's due to curvature....why is the alleged "should be globe horizon" never where it should be.....and why is the amount hidden varying?

Originally Posted by Bohter
Here's more evidence of missing surface curvature....and variable weather causing variable hidden zone above the "horizon"...

Shooting from about 120' elevation just above Gaviota State Park...
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One of the best visibility days with maybe 1000 feet being hidden just above the "horizon"....seeing peaks that should be 800' below it....yet there they are....with no known plausible explanation...globe horizon horribly out of position....
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What it should look like....per Peakfinder....as a reference for what the view should look like on a sphere with a 3959 mile r...
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Another day....more being hidden due to weather affected optics....can't see Clarks or the others on this day...
[Linked Image]

And...for reference....what it should look like from much higher camera elevation....you can mess with this in Peakfinder...
[Linked Image]

Have never seen the "should be globe horizon" where it should be....
....Hmmmm....that's suspicious....don't ya think?
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Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995286
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Originally Posted by Bohter
P-Brane Vid.
One of his best.
Sunsets and mountain shadows...

shrug


P-Brane suggested the shadow would move downward if the observer moved to the top of Mt. Rainier. Lets check that in reality...
Shadow from the top
This is an awesome site....by the way....check out it's other content for some neat atmospheric science....

Or this vid...


Appears to check-out.
shrug

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Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995287
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...and how about some memes....some new ones....


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995318
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The framing effect's effect on the framer trips me out.

The insistence of asserting an incongruent frame is a noteworthy part of that pathology.

It's kind of spooky.




incompetence is preferable to malice.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Autoprax] #2995341
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Originally Posted by Autoprax
The framing effect's effect on the framer trips me out.

The insistence of asserting an incongruent frame is a noteworthy part of that pathology.

It's kind of spooky.




One thinks you coulda built a house by now Auto....with all the framing going on and such.


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995346
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Weather site Earth.Nullschool.net is awesome.....it used to have a Flat Earth north pole centered map feature called Azimuthal Equidistant...but they eliminated that one (of many) for some reason (made too much sense me thinks).

This one is upper atmosphere winds....at around 35,000 ft where airliners fly....
250 Hpa Wind (35K ft elevation)
Notice the southern jet....much stronger than the north....
Here it is at 58,000 ft....
70 Hpa winds (58K ft)
This one begs the question.....why so different compared to the north....
I know....it's winter down there right now...but check back in 4-6 months to see if it flips with the seasons....


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995351
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The issue is quantitative (too much) as much as it's qualitative (nutty).

One wonders if you are like this IRL.

Or does an online bb give you a place to do what amounts to a form of stress leakage?

Maybe it's good in that it gives you a way to keep it together.

Maybe the mods should do to you what they did to Kaiser and create an erbb FE Section?


incompetence is preferable to malice.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995356
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Auto....are you like the erBB school nurse or something?

Need more FE cowbell?!
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cheers


Living is easy with eyes closed...Misunderstanding all you see. The Beatles
I know you've deceived me now here's a surprise...I know that you have because there's magic in my eyes. I can see for miles and miles... The Who
Nature abhors a vacuum....except when earth's pressure system is next to the vacuum of space.....then they coexist...unnaturally.
Re: Distant Shores [Re: Bohter] #2995365
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I said the issue (the tell that something is off) was quantitative (144 pages).

As usual, you evade.


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