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Album DISASYM - any reviews? #2636670
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Here's the feature and video:

http://2016grovelguide.surfline.com/5/

Any experiences with this board?

I hate quads, like twins though. Not sure what I'd think of it.

Also this version looks like a true groveler, he seems to struggle a bit on the bigger ones.

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I got sucked in by that grovel guide footage. Couldn't resist -- ordered one a few months back.

First few sessions, it was about 50/50 -- I would either have a really great ride with the board doing somewhat unexpected things in a good way (handling steeper sections than anticipated, flying past sections, turning super sharp, going really good backside), or I would completely kook it (going over the handlebars, mistiming turns, getting too far out on shoulder, etc.)

So, it took a few sessions to figure out -- in those sessions, I had a lot of moments that made me want to keep with it. But after I got more comfortable with the board and started to learn how it was going to react to different situations -- essentially, I didn't want to surf any other boards.

This thing is just too fun. I clicked with it backside first, feels really natural -- just stand with your back foot over the fins and tee off.
Front side took a few sessions, but it has so much built in speed and a ton of pivot (and carve). You can surf it more cruise-y or more aggressively. The board is really versatile.

Mine is almost identical to the one in that video. I used it on the day of the year (in South Florida) this past winter, and the board was so good. That day was about a foot or two overhead on average and really lined up (classic South Florida cold front swell -- walled up and fast -- not hollow though), and I never felt like I was being held back at all. I probably wouldn't want to surf it in anything bigger than that, but I don't surf in much bigger than that anyway.

I'd say it's more daily driver than groveler. Although, Matt can customize it to your needs, I'm sure.

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I've owned something similar. It was a BSD asym. Twin on the toe side and quad on the heel side.

I liked the feeling a lot and was told that it looked good underfoot, but it was grovel specific and I should have ordered it to be more of a daily driver. Also, I struggled with finding a quad set-up that worked for me. Sometimes it was hot and cold, which didn't allow me to be 100% comfortable on my backhand with it. I don't typically like quads anyways, so I'm not sure why I thought I might get along with this set-up.

I would definitely get another one, just with a few changes. I would increase the rocker slightly to make it an all-arounder. I would change it to a thruster asym set-up, and I think I would go reverse asym next time, where the short rail is on the toe side and the longer rail is on the backside. In my view, it's already easier to pivot backside and get vertical in a small pocket because most of your weight is readily available at your heels. I find it harder to pivot tightly frontside, where I think you would benefit from a shorter rail line. Most asyms are set up opposite.


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Originally Posted By: jkb
I would change it to a thruster asym set-up


What's that look like?

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With the traditional asym thruster set-up, the toe fin is pulled back a bit and the center fin is moved closer to the heel side fin.


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I had a asymmetrical Brink and there is definitely *something* to the theory. I only got rid of it because of overlap and I wanted something more grovelly.

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Any more updates/reviews on the Disasym? I've been wanting something that bridges the gap between fish and shortboard, plus I'm interested in the asym theory, so these have really been speaking to me.

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Have a Justin Ternes shaped version. Pretty identical outline. I cant speak to the rocker or concaves as I cant find any pics or description of the Disasym. But my JT is probably my most HP board that I own, though I dont ride traditional HP shortboards. Its 5-9 x 20 x 2 1/2.
Have an XTR Album Fascination (asym fish) coming tomorrow

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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Here's the feature and video:

http://2016grovelguide.surfline.com/5/

Any experiences with this board?

I hate quads, like twins though. Not sure what I'd think of it.

Also this version looks like a true groveler, he seems to struggle a bit on the bigger ones.



Better late than never eh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEBUTlBXoA

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If this one was smaller, I'd be tempted to give it a shot...
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/d/san-clemente-album-fascination/6804650645.html

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I think I'm going to make some time to check one out in person and most likely put in an order. The average joe surfing in that review kind of sold me

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A little off topic, but I just started to shape an asym fish, and could use some advice on fin placement. Its a 5'6" (21'x2.6") with a swallow/squash tail set up (single concave throughout). I went into it thinking I wanted to keep it a quad, but not radically shifted placements from one side to the other. However that seems to be how I see most asyms.

Any advice would be much appreciated, even if its just a basic starting point on where and how I should measure/place. Thanks!

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Originally Posted By: YeahNo
A little off topic, but I just started to shape an asym fish, and could use some advice on fin placement. Its a 5'6" (21'x2.6") with a swallow/squash tail set up (single concave throughout). I went into it thinking I wanted to keep it a quad, but not radically shifted placements from one side to the other. However that seems to be how I see most asyms.

Any advice would be much appreciated, even if its just a basic starting point on where and how I should measure/place. Thanks!


I don't know measurements, but generally speaking your toe side will have a longer rail line with the fins further back and your heel side will have a shorter rail line with the fins further forward. The pic below obviously isn't a quad, but it will point you in the right direction. Make sure to click on the second pic.

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Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Here's the feature and video:

http://2016grovelguide.surfline.com/5/

Any experiences with this board?

I hate quads, like twins though. Not sure what I'd think of it.

Also this version looks like a true groveler, he seems to struggle a bit on the bigger ones.




There you go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEBUTlBXoA

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board looks way too small for that bloke.

way too much constant spaz pumping to keep it moving.


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Originally Posted By: freeride76
board looks way too small for that bloke.

way too much constant spaz pumping to keep it moving.


He always rides boards that are too small.


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I'm really surprised now that Medina has shown how boards with decent volume look under skilled feet that the ego trip of riding under-volumed boards still persists.


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Originally Posted By: freeride76
I'm really surprised now that Medina has shown how boards with decent volume look under skilled feet that the ego trip of riding under-volumed boards still persists.


I'm really torn on this.
I've been adding more and more volume (I'm 82KGs) as that's what's the general consensus these days (more foam is your friend etc), but honestly not sure if it's doing me any good.

Guess it's a seperate topic, and also kinda futile to discuss a board based on volume alone, but that being said, boards over 30ish litres just feel much too big and I cannot move the thing like I want to. I'm probably just a spastic to be fair.

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Originally Posted By: Waxfoot
Originally Posted By: freeride76
I'm really surprised now that Medina has shown how boards with decent volume look under skilled feet that the ego trip of riding under-volumed boards still persists.


I'm really torn on this.
I've been adding more and more volume (I'm 82KGs) as that's what's the general consensus these days (more foam is your friend etc), but honestly not sure if it's doing me any good.

Guess it's a seperate topic, and also kinda futile to discuss a board based on volume alone, but that being said, boards over 30ish litres just feel much too big and I cannot move the thing like I want to. I'm probably just a spastic to be fair.


It totally depends on the board. I have boards, HPSBs, ranging from 29-33 liters and they all work really well. The 29s are snub nosed and the 33 is long and pointy.

Had a 33 liter OG Flyer and when I was 200 lbs it worked great. Now Im 180 and it sucked ass so I sold it.

But that fat dude that does those reviews consistently rides boards that are too small. There is one board he reviewed that was over volumed for him and its the best Ive seen him surf.


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It's all relative and subjective.

As Dane pointed out, unless you're a pro if it feels good it is good.

Those spaz pumps and flicky half turns probably feel good to that guy. Any extra resistance probably feels not so good.

Surfed with Medina a few times now and when you see the positivity and power in his surfing and the almost complete lack of any little half turns and spaz pumps it's quite shocking.

After witnessing that its hard to escape the conclusion that almost everyone, including most of the Tour, would benefit from an extra litre or two, at least.


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well in any case, I found volume distribution is what is really key and also as freeride says, it s all about how good it feels under the surfer s feet as well at some point. When you see the pros thou, it doesn't look like they need more volume, they just rip this way. Also, a board doesn't necessarily need the same volume across all type of waves, for the same surfer, a 3 foot wave with heaps of push doesn't need the same flotation as a 3 foot fat slow breaking wave (on top of the design features of course).

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Yeah Craig from "The Surfboard Guide" does ride very low volumed boards for his weight. I've met him before (we have some mutual friends) and in person he is definitely a solid guy - he sure can surf though. I would image he is between 90 and 95kg. I weigh 88kg at the moment and am very comfortable on 31L for a HPSB and 32.5L for a groveller. He is on at least 1L less than me and weighs up to 7kg more.

I think I ride fairly low volumed boards as it is...


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Originally Posted By: freeride76
board looks way too small for that bloke.

way too much constant spaz pumping to keep it moving.

I'm just focused on his trailing zombie arm and wrist the entire time I watch him surfing.
shocked


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He might be surfing low volume boards but he certainly can surf !

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I thought I'd chime in in this thread
I just received my 5'6 x 19 x 2.44 disasym
I'm 5'9 and about 170 lbs.
size is just right but it's a custom so Matt knows what he is doing with the measurements
I'm in Australia and it's not cheap. The board was under the duty amount so didn't have to pay that but the airposrt handling fees etc get you. $300 for that. That's not including the frieght which isn't too bad

Now the board. As people say, does take time to get used to but once you dial it. Wow. Took about 3 surfs to get to that point.
The board is not a groveller. It's good in small waves don't get me wrong but had solid waves 2 days ago and it lit up. The trick with it was to get in on rail. Really push that thing down in the water and it carves. Most my boards are either twins or quads and it really does put the best of those 2 worlds together.
Experimented with fins a bit. But the best combo for the solid waves is the quad true ames Tyler warrens,(not the captain fins ones. They slid everywhere). And a TA true Ames on the twin side. Smaller surf used the Rasta t1 futures , they're a bit more flexible and generate speed in the smaller stuff.
But definitely can't recommend the board enough. Haven't yet gone back hand yet. Waves I've had recently have been all right handlers but can't wait to try it and see what it's like using the quads off the bottom and the twin off the top

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^ Is there any reason to have the Disasym's asymmetrical nose? Does it affect the effective rail line? I've been on the look out for a used one, but Matt's made only made about 10% in FCSII and the potential in finding one in my size, plus goofy stance is negligible. I have too much tied-up in FCSII to get one board with Futures. For how much a custom would be I definitely want to test one before dropping the coin, but as of now; Album doesn't have a demo that woud work for me.

I saw a pic of a Brink/CI assym collab and it had a pointy nose, so I'm unclear of the purpose of the nose mirroring the tail as some of Albums have. It seams that Ryan Burch is doing more of the pickle-fork noses nowadays, compared with his initial offerings.

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