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#2551439 - 10/02/16 02:10 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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paging Jam71 - he's run a few of these combos in his.

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#2551446 - 10/02/16 04:23 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Originally Posted By: kpd73
What's your favorite and why?
Need help and sound advice-

Reason?

I'm running Akila Aipas in my Gary McNeill RTT and they Rip. Love the height- 5.4" - like the flat foil and tips for release - base is decent - 4.8" and overall 19.10" too.

This board has a Way higher top end than I think it's rated for and I'm going to push it there. Just don't want to exceed the Aipa's grasp and be left bummed.
While the RTT is a wide tail modern performance fish, that Torus Channel through the center does provide great hold/Drive/stability and I'm looking for something that I can run when it gets Good.
I want to stay with upright MR style fins - much like the Aipa's but bigger all around- and Performance- Still flat foil and good release. Looking for long fast Carves not snaps.

I have a set of Rasta Sea Shepherds but don't see/Feel this board getting anything other than hold and down the line drive.

So hit me with every and any opinion/review advice/help you've got. Super appreciated in advance, and hope this finds everyone well surfed.

- Keith


Been there and done them all.
If you're lighter then the Aipas are fine.
I was 200lbs (or so) and much preferred the sea shepherds in the rtt. The Aipas didn't have enough fin area for me. Prefer the AMT's since they have a long base for drive but a narrower tip for release. For a twin with longer base but a fuller tip closer to the MR template then the Scarfini twin is a good choice.
For me as a bigger guy for beachbreaks use the AMT's or Scarfinis...points Sea shepherds rule.
For a lightweight on the points then use a K2 instead of the sea shepherds...less area to control and a flat inside foil for better control at speed.
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#2551464 - 10/02/16 09:29 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: Goodfish]
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Originally Posted By: Goodfish
Some great suggestions here! I'm stuck with what to go with!

Current choice:

Pushfin's Mr. Twin
Futures AMTs
Futures Akila Aipa
Electric Twins

I've got some Sea Shepherds already, so which fins would best compliment my fin quiver?



Aipa's. Retropete hit it - and thanks much by the way man - on the head for dudes our size.
Aipa's Rule. Mad drive an kniffe slice carves with that stiff fiberglass. You can feel it.
And this way you'll have both ends of the spectrum covered well and can move to whatever side suits you and your waves in the next pair.

Quick RTT tip when waves get /better/longer period? Take a wave and let the board just Go. Give it just enough input to stay up and just cruise. It will high and low line by itself but most importantly you'll feel what the design is doing. Really eye opening. I did it and after that stopped Driving the board like I would when it was lower period/softer waves and started to lean into the wall and let the board and wave draw out the line. It holds at insanely high speeds and through smooth deep power arcs and carves. You're not going to do top to bottom surfing or maneuvers but you Will be in tune with the Energy of the wave directly through the RTT.
Feeling this is what has led me on the search for a bit bigger fins than the Aipa's because I have no doubt that when surfed like this, the top end of the RTT is Massive, and when I get there I think a slightly wider base, yet still quite upright fin will be my go.
You don't need a huge day to feel this just a long period swell. Eye opening and Spirit expanding. Big time.

jam_on

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#2551466 - 10/02/16 09:40 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Originally Posted By: kpd73
Originally Posted By: Goodfish
Some great suggestions here! I'm stuck with what to go with!

Current choice:

Pushfin's Mr. Twin
Futures AMTs
Futures Akila Aipa
Electric Twins

I've got some Sea Shepherds already, so which fins would best compliment my fin quiver?



Aipa's. Retropete hit it - and thanks much by the way man - on the head for dudes our size.
Aipa's Rule. Mad drive an kniffe slice carves with that stiff fiberglass. You can feel it.
And this way you'll have both ends of the spectrum covered well and can move to whatever side suits you and your waves in the next pair.

Quick RTT tip when waves get /better/longer period? Take a wave and let the board just Go. Give it just enough input to stay up and just cruise. It will high and low line by itself but most importantly you'll feel what the design is doing. Really eye opening. I did it and after that stopped Driving the board like I would when it was lower period/softer waves and started to lean into the wall and let the board and wave draw out the line. It holds at insanely high speeds and through smooth deep power arcs and carves. You're not going to do top to bottom surfing or maneuvers but you Will be in tune with the Energy of the wave directly through the RTT.
Feeling this is what has led me on the search for a bit bigger fins than the Aipa's because I have no doubt that when surfed like this, the top end of the RTT is Massive, and when I get there I think a slightly wider base, yet still quite upright fin will be my go.
You don't need a huge day to feel this just a long period swell. Eye opening and Spirit expanding. Big time.

jam_on


Oh, man! That post makes me wanna cry! I neeeeeeeeeeeed to surf! Wawawawawawa! bawling
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#2551597 - 10/02/16 07:15 PM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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I ran Aipas in my TT for a couple of years when I picked up a Simon jones channel bottom twinny I put them in that & they go really well there as well. I picked up some AMT"s to put in the TT & they feel good.......so if you are around 165lb either should be fine.

As Pete mentioned it's pretty weight specific, I ran sea sheps in my TT & they worked but they were very tracky. Too much fin for me.

The salty merchant fins look fun but I don't need another set of fins, my aipas & AMT's work fine for me. I should probably try the AMT's in the morning of the earth but If it ain't broke.....

BTW these are epic boards & Simon jones is a true artisan craftsman, beautiful finish. I ve got a diamond tail 4 channel
http://www.morningoftheearthsurfboards.com/tracks_twinny.html

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#2551612 - 10/02/16 07:33 PM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Thanks on the input JaM...and been watching that Torren Martyn - Lost Tracks - video since it was coming out in segments. Radness abounds.

Let's see this Simon Jones 4 channel Diamond tail brother!

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#2551687 - 10/03/16 02:04 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Rode my RTT today with the Stussy twins from True Ames. Didn't really like it. I prefer it with the Rasta keels. Has way more drive with the keels. I don't have a problem with the keels feeling tracks to me. Was a weird ride with the stussy twins. Board lacked spark and actually didn't turn as well as it did with the keels. Not what I expected at all.

I'm on the larger size, about 185. I've got some aipas coming in the mail.
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#2551689 - 10/03/16 02:08 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Moving the fin cluster back makes a difference in how they feel. If you run them forward then you will need more fin area to get the similar feel.

MR weighed in at like 185 and was running an upright 6"t x 5"b at 10.5" forward of the tail on a 5-10 board. That's a lot of fin area.



Check out the fin template he was using. Little or no recurve in the trailing edge. I guess we can chalk that up to the Hawaiian influence. I'm sure GG has something to say about it - he's posted the board template often enough.
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#2551694 - 10/03/16 03:45 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: GDaddy]
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Im kinda done discussing fin templates and positions . drowning

Fun reading all this .

Going to make a special twin in Florida in 2 weeks .
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#2551716 - 10/03/16 09:22 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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#2551790 - 10/03/16 12:56 PM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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We can add GG twin fins once they are made in futures cool

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#2551824 - 10/03/16 02:01 PM Re: Futures Twins [Re: theGraft]
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Originally Posted By: theGraft
We can add GG twin fins once they are made in futures cool


If I had to put my faith in a fin system to Hold and Carve at high speeds- these would be it.

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#2551997 - 10/03/16 08:27 PM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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Are Akil Aipas twins on a RTT for the low-end or day-to-day of the spectrum? And the Rastas/K2 for better waves?

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#2552475 - 10/05/16 08:45 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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OK, so I ordered a set of those sexy blue/green Akila Aipas for my RTT from here:

Shred Factor

I was recommended this online shop by a nice lady called Courtney at Futures. The guy, JD, at Shred Factor was super responsive, and he said he got some new Futures Control Series that aren't even on the Futures website yet.

Dig in!
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#2552479 - 10/05/16 09:24 AM Re: Futures Twins [Re: kpd73]
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the RBT and RSC future twins from Rainbow aren't bad lots of rake
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