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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2448941
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At 45 and close to 200lbs You should do yourself a big favor and get a board that allows you to catch a few waves. A board with proper foam distribution will give you a better chance of catching a wave and also riding the wave. The board might take a little time for you to dial in but once you do it will add a lot to your enjoyment and wave count. There are a lot of excellent custom board builders in Florida. Take a look at their work. Here isa small list of the Florida shapers. Stu Sharpe, Jim Dunlap of Mystic, Ricky Carroll, Chris Birch. Steve Forestall, Tom Nielson to name few. There are others

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: Fredtool] #2448957
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Don't forget about planing area. You can get help with getting into waves earlier and ease of paddling by increasing planing area and keeping the volume similar to what you are used to.

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: RatRed] #2448960
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I'm a fan of more volume




Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449006
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I suggest upping the volume 1-2CL not 4CL. Depends where the volume is dispersed as the other posters have mentioned. Don't want it in the tail.. Most step ups have nice tight tails with low rails as it is..

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449044
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Yeah, I'd pump the breaks. Jumping too much in volume and the ride is totally different. I dont make a differentiation between boards I ride in shorts and a 3/2. But that's just me.

But hey, I like a little foam unless it's hucking.


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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: Deepism] #2449056
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Make lots of boards for big guys.
Sometimes, an increase of volume means just a wider, fuller outline.
I try to convince my customer's that a increase in volume does not always mean going longer.
Several options.
6'2" x 2-5/8" "R2" Model

6'4" x 2-5/8" Lagoona Twin Fin

6'4" "R2"



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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449065
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don't forget the flipside of the "doesn't duck-dive well" issue is that the board surfaces faster coming from
the low point of the dive.

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449097
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cons: will give you corky carrol tits/udders


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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449103
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I don't know any cons that surf personally...
Maybe Sunny Garcia will chime in?

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: chrisp510] #2449114
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More volume is an older surfer's best friend.
Younger surfers have yet to learn this.
Volume can be only added at the center.
Keep the rails thin.
With the proper technique, a long board can be duck dived.


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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: bsnyder] #2449126
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Originally Posted By: bsnyder
More volume is an older surfer's best friend.
Younger surfers have yet to learn this.
Volume can be only added at the center.
Keep the rails thin.
With the proper technique, a long board can be duck dived.


I have a rusty happy shovel that is 2 3/4" thick and 36liters, the rails are bladed and its one of my favorite boards to surf. It's all about the rails man!
I'm 6'1 180 pounds and 35 years old. Most of my HP boards are around 31 liters.

Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: Racer1] #2449135
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6'4" 210 lbs.
2-3/4" is my number.
Do a lot of big guy boards in the 2-1/2"- 2-3/4" range.
Team Volume.


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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: connor30] #2449160
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I'm older but never put any weight on - been forced to go to more volume cause the low volume boards just wear me out now before I'm ready to leave the water. Pros to more volume - they paddle faster/easier - I can sit further out and catch waves earlier - I catch more waves. Cons - harder to duck-dive, especially on big days, not as responsive, NOT better on late-takeoffs - have to work it harder to generate the speed I get from a lower volume board. Stay away from chunky rails. I would keep the same foil as your favorite board - if you go chunky in the middle and thin out nose and tail you get a board that sinks the tail before the rail - that sucks.

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Re: More Volume---pros vs cons [Re: Racer1] #2449208
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Originally Posted By: Racer1


I have a rusty happy shovel that is 2 3/4" thick and 36liters, the rails are bladed and its one of my favorite boards to surf. It's all about the rails man!


Really wish more R[dot] boards came with those rails. Love mine. 2.56 at the center but bladed rails like my DFR which is @2.3125 thick.

Probably because of the length, but I don't find it hard to duck dive (@31L) despite being a full 4L over my HPSB's (~27L).

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Originally Posted By: Racer1
Originally Posted By: bsnyder
More volume is an older surfer's best friend.
Younger surfers have yet to learn this.
Volume can be only added at the center.
Keep the rails thin.
With the proper technique, a long board can be duck dived.


I have a rusty happy shovel that is 2 3/4" thick and 36liters, the rails are bladed and its one of my favorite boards to surf. It's all about the rails man!
I'm 6'1 180 pounds and 35 years old. Most of my HP boards are around 31 liters.


holy shit. im 45 pushing 190lbs and my baby wave board is 27L........think most of my other blades are closer to 25 . . .


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