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#2439495 - 12/31/15 09:10 AM Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler
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beer This Close to getting the Campbell Bros. AO Twin, and the previouse Twin Fin thread has got me even more pumped to pull the trigger. Convince me or not...?

Q: Can the Twin Fin replace the every day small wave 1-5' performance groveler.
Does the thruster still have the advantage as far as drive goes, or however you may interpret what we call drive or lack of it. They definitely don't seem to lack the speed and with the fins set further back compared the early 80's that appears to help.
Lets hear those opinions...

And in the end I'm probably still gonna get one cause it's been pondered to long. shaka

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#2439496 - 12/31/15 09:13 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Bonzer AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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I don't know about the cambells twin but my akila aipa twin was not a groveler. Needed a wave with some curve, preferably waist high and up. Really pulled in and foiled out in the rails. I need a new one as well, dying not having one with my aipa now too small for me


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#2439497 - 12/31/15 09:23 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Bonzer AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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I've never had a twin that was a good grovel board. In fact, I usually get rid of them because I don't get to ride them enough
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#2439498 - 12/31/15 09:25 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Bonzer AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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Get one.
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#2439500 - 12/31/15 09:44 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Bonzer AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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get the AO with the center fin plugs
the Campbell Bros boards I have seen in person all have a lot of foam out to the rail... which I personally like
I'm sure Malcolm can work his magic and put some grovel into your AO
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#2439511 - 12/31/15 10:44 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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I have a Slingerland twinfinner I ordered specificly for hollow beach break and it is a barrel rider. I took it to a mushy reef just under head high to see how it would go and it didn't exactly bog out but it didn't have much get up and go either.

When the waves are steep and hollow the board shines. In my opinion this style board is not a groveler.

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#2439597 - 12/31/15 02:31 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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Originally Posted By: Im_Cleatus
beer This Close to getting the Campbell Bros. AO Twin, and the previouse Twin Fin thread has got me even more pumped to pull the trigger. Convince me or not...?

Q: Can the Twin Fin replace the every day small wave 1-5' performance groveler.
Does the thruster still have the advantage as far as drive goes, or however you may interpret what we call drive or lack of it. They definitely don't seem to lack the speed and with the fins set further back compared the early 80's that appears to help.
Lets hear those opinions...

And in the end I'm probably still gonna get one cause it's been pondered to long. shaka

1(ao) of the few boards I wish I never sold.. so fast yet so in control loose,if ya know what I mean, get 1 with the center fin box in case, it became so helpful when surfing hollow waves

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#2439599 - 12/31/15 02:35 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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Get an MTF style board from Gibbons , grovel edition like the one Sublime used to have

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#2439602 - 12/31/15 02:42 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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There's a very inspiring couple of shots of fanning on an AO twin at rocky point from a few years ago.

For a grovel bonzer consider a mblv in a 3 fin setup with the og runners. I have one that literally levitates. Craziest sensation. But keeps it light and responsive on the small days.

For a grovel twin consider something with a wide tail, like a fish inspired outline.
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#2439642 - 12/31/15 05:46 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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Happy new year all!
Well it is here already.
Hey Colin,
what size mblv you riding?
I've been eyeing this one off for ages.
http://www.zaksurfboards.com.au/campbell-brothers-bonzer-egg-510-x-21-3-4-x-2-5-8-842/
I'm 52, 200lbs and buggered shoulder/arthiritic neck that pinches my nerves and runs a current down my left arm so I love foam.
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#2439646 - 12/31/15 06:01 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Colin]
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"I have one that literally levitates. Craziest sensation." (On BLV)
Well put. They are a trip.
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#2439651 - 12/31/15 06:16 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: OTdos]
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Originally Posted By: OTdos
"I have one that literally levitates. Craziest sensation." (On BLV)
Well put. They are a trip.


Is it pink?

shaka
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#2439868 - 01/01/16 09:50 PM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Im_Cleatus]
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Yo Cleatus,

Have not ridden the most of the boards you mention in the OP, but have had two twins from GG.

First was 6'2" X 19 1/2" X 2 3/8 poly. With thruster plugs as well.
Second was 6' X 19 1/4 X 2 1/4 pure twin.

I didn't get them as grovellers, we don't get much mush here. All round performance board was the slot I was filling.

First one revelled in power and was super solid, could really lay into in. Went good in Indo. I had a hard time giving it the waves it deserved in the local area. Lined up long waves a re hard to come by. Mostly I surf hollow closeout corners, or a softish lined up refracted setup up the coast.

Second one feels quite different, and even though it feels considerably slimmer, it's really good from about waist high to head and a half. Like, one of the best boards I've had for small lined up waves. I don't know why it feels different from the other on, but I feel like the EPS acts a bit differently....

Lots of boards I'd like to get from Greg, but top of the list would be a cheater twin. That would have you covered for grovel methinks. And a Hovercraft........

AOtwin with rear plugs would be fuckingfantastic though, I'm sure.

I,spent all night googling RNF '97 too, so there's that as well.....
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#2439894 - 01/02/16 01:02 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: ghostshaper]
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Originally Posted By: ghostshaper
Originally Posted By: OTdos
"I have one that literally levitates. Craziest sensation." (On BLV)
Well put. They are a trip.


Is it pink?

shaka

im aa child of the 80s/90s .,.....so farking sold!

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#2439906 - 01/02/16 02:25 AM Re: Performance Twin Fin. Campbell Bros. AO, MR, GG, ETC, VS Tri Fin Groveler [Re: Clamsmasha]
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Def gonna go the Campbell bros. route. Malcolm has yet to let me down. The MBLV looks fun and no doubt probably a blast to surf but not what I'm after this time around.
I Wanna stay with the more traditional short board outline.
And yes to the plug for a trailer fin. I will for sure want that even though Malcolm prefers not to add one.

That 80's hover board thing looks pretty good to, wonder how that goes in average surf. shaka


Edited by Im_Cleatus (01/02/16 02:30 AM)

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