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JS HYFI Tech? #2437087
12/22/15 05:51 AM
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Cruising the webs and came across this:http://www.jsindustries.com/hyfi/index.html

Looks pretty cool. Looks like a stringerless epoxy that other people have been doing. Guess they aren't available in the US for at least a couple weeks. Would be cool to hear from someone who has ridden or fondled one.

Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2437104
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Let's hope it's better than the CI Double Helix tech from a few years ago, which would snap diagonally in small surf.

Stringerless epoxy is hard to do well. The Coil folks have proven it's possible, but every other flavor I've seen is ultra stiff, and most are prone to snapping as well.

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Originally Posted By: avt__
Let's hope it's better than the CI Double Helix tech from a few years ago, which would snap diagonally in small surf.

Stringerless epoxy is hard to do well. The Coil folks have proven it's possible, but every other flavor I've seen is ultra stiff, and most are prone to snapping as well.


I'm guessing you're thinking of surftech. My stringerless eps daily driver is magic, and I don't know shvt about glassing. Used 2.5 oz s cloth.


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2437431
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Hey Ghostie, just got my first lot of epoxy. Regarding glass schedule, what would you do with 4oz s-glass fro stringerless vs stringer?

Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2437452
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Mine is 2# eps. I have 3 x 2.5 oz s cloth on the deck and rails, 2 x on the bottom. Flat deck, minor single concave to vee out the back. So not a lot to stiffen it up. Feels good.

If you're surfing your shallow board breaking spot, I would add more layers to the rails. I glassed the rails first to lock in the rocker (stretch's advice).


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2437748
12/23/15 10:56 PM
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I love how Parko and the other guys "endorse" the tech but they're 90% likely to keep on surfing their regular pu/pe's every day.

Also find those 3/4-ish length patches to be useless as they just create breaking points or hinges (all energy focuses at the end of the patch) and make things worse, I bet a single strip of that shady carbon tape would work a heck of a lot better if it went from tail to tip than partially, specially on a stringerless board.

time will tell how they hold up.


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2437985
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We went through this in the early 90's. My friend still buckled all his boards. Notice the condition of the original:


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: ghostshaper] #2438020
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Originally Posted By: ghostshaper
We went through this in the early 90's. My friend still buckled all his boards. Notice the condition of the original:


My how things have changed. I would have completely drooled over that shot in the 90's. Now it makes me want to barf.


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: ] #2438119
12/25/15 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: nexttozen
Cabron on top makez no sense. Needs to be on the weaker bottom


It was on the bottom, too. Didnt matter


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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: ghostshaper] #2438169
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JS no longer producing in US if I remember correctly...

"Drawing inspiration from the most hi-tech crafts in the boardsports world, we looked at everything from wind-surfers and racing SUPs to wakeboards and snowboards. Advanced manufacturing techniques allow the leaders in each of these fields to create incredibly consistent, well built and long lasting products three key components in the future of surfboard design.

Seeking to go one better as always, a purpose-built factory gave us the perfect environment to develop our patent pending Hybrid Fiber Diamond."

Does anyone know where this new factory is located?

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All JS boards are coming from their Australian factory, they closed the one in SD to keep a better eye on QC. I have a 5'6 round tail 107 & 5'9 MontaBox ordered, they'll ship it once they fill the container to send over.

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Those carbon inlays can be terrible if your nose hits reef and snaps, the glass can rip back along both edges of the carbon (like a fold in a piece of paper) my mates did it last Indo trip snapped two to three inches of nose and the carbon inlays ripped the glass up for a good two to three foot back up the board, was actually the bottom, nightmare to fix when your traveling, brand new board too.

Hope the JS HYFI tech is legit and durable and not just another epoxy hoax like most are that are only slightly more durable than PU/Poly.

Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: waxurDyl] #2438226
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I had heard that about the PU boards. I think they make those in the old JS factory. From my engineering background I would really love to see pics of their new factory for the HYFI boards.



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The way it was explained to me, the HYFI boards won't have carbon strips. JS instead is using a new fiberglass that's exclusive to them where the white "carbon" netting that's usually used as tail patches is actually weaved through the S-glass. Pretty cool stuff and supposedly pretty strong. The entire team has been testing them and the only one to break a board was Dusty.

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Re: JS HYFI Tech? [Re: novasteve] #2438257
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Seems like JS is trying to create a competitor to FutureFlex like Hayden Shapes set up. Hayden's genius wasnt only in making the hypto, but creating a "special" glassing option where he'll make money regardless of whether its his shape or not.

The "special"/different glassing can also be set up overseas for "quality control" like GSI does for non-US made FutureFlex boards.

In the end, the most likely answer is always $$$.

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