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#2416915 - 11/04/15 04:15 PM Takayama Egg fin recommendations?
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Been trying out a Takayama Mini-Howard Egg - 6'8" (can't remember the dims off the top of my head). I've had a few sessions on it ..... board feels like a boat anchor .... i think it has to do with the fin setup. I picked up some 3" sidebites - they have 50/50 foil and i've tried them with both the True Ames 6" California Classic and the True Ames 6" Bonzer center fins with similar results. Paddling out the board feels ok but when paddling for a wave it has zero glide. As far as positioning ... I have the leading edge of the center fin parallel with the trailing edge of the side fins.

I'm thinking of trying it next as a single fin. Any suggestions/feedback would be appreciated.


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#2416927 - 11/04/15 04:26 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Sounds like the side bites have excessive toe in

Or the rocker got flubbed up by Mr cnc dude

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#2416928 - 11/04/15 04:27 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Originally Posted By: flyinraptr
i think it has to do with the fin setup. I picked up some 3" sidebites - they have 50/50 foil



uh yes.

i have a 7'0 and i love it.


get side fins, not trailers. yeah try it as a single to simplify things

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#2416959 - 11/04/15 05:23 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: retodd]
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Originally Posted By: retodd
Sounds like the side bites have excessive toe in

Or the rocker got flubbed up by Mr cnc dude



Hopefully - either scenario is not the case.

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#2416962 - 11/04/15 05:28 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: FishFace]
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Originally Posted By: FishFace
Originally Posted By: flyinraptr
i think it has to do with the fin setup. I picked up some 3" sidebites - they have 50/50 foil



uh yes.

i have a 7'0 and i love it.


get side fins, not trailers. yeah try it as a single to simplify things


Yeah - love the overall shape of the board, rails, etc. Seems like it would really excel in point break conditions/big open face conditions. After doing a little research - seems most are running a 6.5" center fin or better.

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#2416976 - 11/04/15 06:15 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Nice board. I just got a 8' Takayama flex fin for my 6'8 scorpion and love it. works well with the genuine pintail. Still, can't see why it wouldn't work on the egg. Worth a try.

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#2416990 - 11/04/15 06:42 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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I really want to try one of these. Think Mitch's has a demo I was going to try and grab next time I'm out that way. Looks like a perfect egg.

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#2416998 - 11/04/15 07:29 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: phil65]
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Originally Posted By: phil65
Nice board. I just got a 8' Takayama flex fin for my 6'8 scorpion and love it. works well with the genuine pintail. Still, can't see why it wouldn't work on the egg. Worth a try.


Thanks. It came with a Takayama fin - not sure if is the flex .... i think it is a 7" - was thinking of giving that a try next as a single fin. Are you riding your scorpion as a single or 2+1?

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#2416999 - 11/04/15 07:32 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: nightfly]
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Originally Posted By: nightfly
I really want to try one of these. Think Mitch's has a demo I was going to try and grab next time I'm out that way. Looks like a perfect egg.


Yeah - i actually picked this one up at Mitch's. Everything about the board .. looks and feels good. I probably should have just started out with the fins that come with it from the shop.

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#2417046 - 11/04/15 09:41 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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#2417167 - 11/05/15 03:14 AM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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I have a 6' 10. So far only ridden it with the stock fins goes great but I can see a center fin with a bit less rake being good. I know Devon uses a Wayne rich one in his.

The bottom is roll into vee so it doesn't generate speed as well as a board with concaves. It is such a smooth flowing board to surf though. Good for laying over a deep bottom turn in the flats. It likes a nice big face to play on.

I think paddling into waves it has less glide than I expected. There's more rocker and less foam hidden in there than you'd think. A keeper for me for sure!!

Eric Christenson does a similar template with a double concave bottom I've heard good things about.


Edited by Jory (11/05/15 03:14 AM)
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#2417195 - 11/05/15 10:02 AM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Do they work on sub waist high waves? Was hoping to get one of these to keep me from having to drag out the log on small days with a little shape.

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#2417202 - 11/05/15 10:27 AM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Depends how you define "work" and what the wave is like. Also how long the egg is at 145lbs for me there'd be a big difference between a 6'8 howard special and a 7'6 one

Mine will catch waist high waves and if it was on a nice lined up point would allow a nice smooth trimming down the line style. It would need to be a wave wit a little bit of go. really mushy or broken up waves at that size wouldnt be great becasue of the lack of concave in the bottom and its a fair bit of length to move around on a small wave.

To be honest over here its all beach break and at waist high id go with a mini - simmons instead as a log alternative. plenty of speed generation and glide and short enough to whip around and pretend you can actualy shortboard! :-)

these are fairly small waves being ridden on one here: https://vimeo.com/27917084
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#2417258 - 11/05/15 12:09 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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Here is a shot of the tail .... i've put the Takayama fin in that came with it - 7" glass fin - doesn't appear to be the "flex". Looking at the side fin boxes they do appear to have a lot of toe-in - hard to say if too much. But if you look at where the line is drawn in the foam - they appear to be off center to the line.

So just to clarify - although i am testing it out here in SoCal - the intent is not as a log alternative .... i'm sort of putting together a quiver for my eventual move to Nica. Thinking this would be a great option for spots like PangaDrops (big open face reef break) and classic point breaks in the vicinity like Lance's, Manzanillo.

Jory - do you tend to position yourself farther forward when paddling for waves then you normally would?

Again - only a couple sessions so still kinda feeling it out .... giving it a go with just the 7" Takayama center fin this weekend .... will hopefully help find the right setup.





Edited by flyinraptr (11/05/15 12:20 PM)

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#2417266 - 11/05/15 12:20 PM Re: Takayama Egg fin recommendations? [Re: flyinraptr]
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um.... I'm not sure, i ride so many different boards from 5'2 sims up to 9'6 heavy logs but this is my only board between 6 and 9 feet so it's difficult to judge.

There's definately a little less nose showing when im paddling in what seems to be the sweet spot than i would have expected for the length. I definately noticed that it didnt paddle as fast or get into waves as early as i expected it to when i first got it.I think i can get in earlier on my 5'2 simmons

Like i said despite being 6'10, they are pretty foiled out and theres more rocker hidden in there than you might think. I guess its not really designed to be a small wave speed generator, more of a smooth big face arc drawing board.

Although this is a tyler, its virtually the same board.......

https://vimeo.com/117554484

i think thats the kind of surfing its going to excel at
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