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Channel Islands - #4 vs. Weirdo Ripper #2295313
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What's the difference? Anyone have experience with both? Looking for a groveler type board for all year round. Found both of these used for a good price but stuck on which one would be best.

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Originally Posted By: Havoc_Bro
neither is a groveler. they are made for short pockety punchy waves. weirdo is good if u can get a lower rockered version. else try the new flyer in the + dims.


Even #4 in the goveler dims??

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Okay thanks! Thinking about it now I would say I'm not set on a groveler board - poor choice in wording.

Mainly I surf 3ft+ point breaks but never anything OH - just would like a fun, small wave shortboard that will allow me to start progressing to more advanced surfing but nothing too bulky where I wouldn't be able to duck dive well. I've seen a few people with these boards locally and figured to look into them.

I haven't done any research on a New Flyer yet, would you suggest this as a good small wave shortboard?

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Haven't tried the #4 but the Weirdo was a fun board. I prefer my White Diamond much more and sold the Weirdo. Would love to try the WD2!

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One of my buddies rides the weirdo ripper sometimes.

He likes it and he does well on it in the right conditions but I have seen him struggle in weaker, smaller surf.

It does have a bit of rocker for such a short board. Or at least I thought so when I felt it up.

For lined up point waves under head high it would not be my first choice.

I've had a few great Flyer's but haven't tried a "New" one yet. I think for what you are describing though it would be a pretty good choice.

I don't think a boards duck dive ability should be a huge concern when it's meant for head high and under point waves but that's just me. shrug

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My buddy has both. He likes the weirdo best i think.

Weirdo- more snappy, lots of flip out the back.

#4- more carvy, continuous rocker.

Never tried either but they both look really good.

I wouldn't be too scared of the rocker. CI probably knows what they'r doing when it comes to rockers.

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Originally Posted By: Aruka
I've had a few great Flyer's but haven't tried a "New" one yet. I think for what you are describing though it would be a pretty good choice.

I don't think a boards duck dive ability should be a huge concern when it's meant for head high and under point waves but that's just me. shrug

After asking around someone said the New Flyer is might be too much of a performance board for what I'm looking for but that was only one opinion.

As for the duck diving bit, I'm trying to replace an old used shortboard I had that broke so for the time being I've been surfing a 7'6 fun board. Its so bulky and heavy that even turtle rolling doesn't help. I just get dragged way back - I'm 5'6 130lbs so I'd like something that I can duck dive again.

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My buddy has both. He likes the weirdo best i think.

Weirdo- more snappy, lots of flip out the back.

#4- more carvy, continuous rocker.

Never tried either but they both look really good.

I wouldn't be too scared of the rocker. CI probably knows what they'r doing when it comes to rockers.

I like the sound of "more carvy" that's the style I'd like to surf.

I've heard both sides about the rocker, I've heard people say they like the rocker because it helps give them drive on the smaller waves but on here sounds like theres too much rocker? I don't know what my old board had because it was an old used board given to me so I don't really have anything to compare to.

I personally don't know much technically about rockers to begin with so the debate has got me pretty stumped shrug

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Originally Posted By: Havoc_Bro
What's ur ability?


I'd say intermediate - this is my 2nd year surfing

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I own both and like the Weirdo much better...faster, catches waves better, but most of all seems to have a bigger sweet spot. The #4 is good if I'm in perfect position on the board but if my feet are not in the right spot it bogs....Weirdo does not have this problem.

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Originally Posted By: Cali_C
Originally Posted By: Havoc_Bro
What's ur ability?


I'd say intermediate - this is my 2nd year surfing


I`d say ignorant.

At your experience you could tape together some styrofoam you find at the beach and surf it with more success than any board in the Channel Islands range.


"the quad setup hinders performance." - Havoc
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^^ brutal but probably correct in your assessment.