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Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted #2266901
10/19/14 11:42 PM
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Been going back and forth about a Bing Dharma for awhile now, went in to feel some up at the local surf shop and was shocked how much foam they are packing. The 2.5" felt 3" thick. Are you guys sizing these at your normal thickness? I originally talked to Bing and they recommended the 6'4 which I believed to be too big (6'4 210 lbs), I went in to the local and felt in some 6'0s but even those are feeling big, however the calipers confirmed the thickness. For Dharma owners, would you advise to go smaller?

Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: BFilk] #2266905
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Here's my review. Keep in mind that one mans ceiling is another mans floor and our preferences could be 180 degree's apart. I tried a friends and quickly concluded that The Dharma was one of the, if not the worst board I've ever ridden. It felt like no one part of the design matched or complimented another. It was tracky but kinda bogged on rail. I think it could work if your expectations are to catch waves and just sort of glide along but if there's any bit of chop on the water you're going to be bummed. I'm not posting that to be a downer or anything but 700-800 dollar mistakes hurt.

If you're looking for a wide tailed mush killer go get a Manta. You can probably find dozens to choose from in OC or N SD County.

Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: BFilk] #2266921
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My mate who occassionaly posts on here (JaM71) bought one and hated it as well.
Hardly rode it and moved it on.
Too much foam and not enough performance.
Benny from Compare surfboards has reviewed one.
http://www.comparesurfboards.com/reviews/smallwaveboards/bing-surfboards-dharma-review
He's a bit of a newb so keep that in mind but he's doing heaps of board tests so that's also got to help with his product differentiation knowledge (hopefully).

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Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: BFilk] #2266922
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I recently picked up a used 6ft dharma. Love it. I've surfed it less than 10 times and never in ideal conditions. I've ridden it at Diamond Head, White Plains, and Chuns. It goes backside as well as my Campbell bros MLV and Octafish. It has the speed of my Larry Mabile twinzer but is less finicky. I can turn it off the back foot. Bottom turns are much more natural feeling than on my more traditional fish.

Mine was a custom a slight bit wider and thicker than stock dims. I'm just under 6ft and 185lbs. I surf longboards and short. Multiple fins and singles. I have less experience on quads. I've never ridden a Manta.

I'd trust the Bing team on volume. I'm not a weight weenie. I can turn a board. When I order one to replace this one I will get heavier glass.


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Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Here's my review. Keep in mind that one mans ceiling is another mans floor and our preferences could be 180 degree's apart. I tried a friends and quickly concluded that The Dharma was one of the, if not the worst board I've ever ridden. It felt like no one part of the design matched or complimented another. It was tracky but kinda bogged on rail. I think it could work if your expectations are to catch waves and just sort of glide along but if there's any bit of chop on the water you're going to be bummed. I'm not posting that to be a downer or anything but 700-800 dollar mistakes hurt.

If you're looking for a wide tailed mush killer go get a Manta. You can probably find dozens to choose from in OC or N SD County.


Don't worry about being a downer, I like getting the pros/cons. Asking for feedback and only hearing shining reviews is usually a recipe for disappointment.

The board is def diff than anything I've gotten my hands on. It felt very weird how "big" and "thick" it felt vs what the actual numbers are. The deck is basically flat for about 90% of the width and then tapers off quite significantly. Nose and Tail very foiled compared to rest of the design, and the bottom contours are pretty mellow. I was thinking it would either be a really fun, cruiser gutless mush buster or a total dud due to how different it was. I'm still intrigued by the design but there are no demos around. I'm not expecting it to be HP, I'm thinking about it as a log replacement and I'd like to go longer than a Manta (I had a 5'8) for extra paddle/glide in total crap waves.

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I love mine. The waves I've ridden have been fat high-tide and some pretty fast down-the-line walls and it goes pretty good for small/crappy wave board. For me, tight turns and good back-foot surfing for a board that I use in fish like conditions. I've moved on my other fishes and keeping this as my fish. It's fast. Mine is heavy, that's the only thing. Glassing is fantastic. Mine is custom so sized perfectly.

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Yeah, I saw one online for a good price and went off the dims and volume on the website.......way too much foam for me. They pack a lot of foam so size them smaller than you think but from my experience put one under your arm first.

Depends on the individual as well. If you normally ride a longboard and are looking for a fish, they are a good option. If you ride high performance fish, they are not as refined or performance orientated (I hope that makes sense).

Batoes who also posts on here rode a 5"6 Dharma and has a 5"6 MBLV, he might be able to chime in with a useful comparison.

Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: BFilk] #2267452
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Lolz. I have a 5'10" MBLV and a 6'0" Dharma. I'll go for a surf with any of you ladies and gentlemen any time you are in our fair state. I know how to ride my boards, the ones I keep. The dharma is a keeper. But of course individual mileage may vary. If something about the dharma is speaking to you then give it a shot. Don't listen to a bunch of yahoos like me on the inter webs.

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Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: theGraft] #2267473
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i borrowed a buddy's 5'8" for a bit last spring & found it to be quite shreddy once i got the fin combo dialed in, esp. in softer, fatter surf.

Re: Bing Dharma, sizing, ride reports wanted [Re: njsurfer42] #2267532
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Originally Posted By: njsurfer42
i borrowed a buddy's 5'8" for a bit last spring & found it to be quite shreddy once i got the fin combo dialed in, esp. in softer, fatter surf.


what fins were you runnin?

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same as what i first ran in my puck:

SOAR LE8 up front, true ames TP-G sides in back

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cheers

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same as what i first ran in my puck:

SOAR LE8 up front, true ames TP-G sides in back


what other fins are those equiv to? le8 vs soar dxl pb fins? tp-g vs k2.1 groms?


LE8=FCS MF-1, TP-G=FCS PG-3

never tried either of the fins you mentioned, havoc. MF-1 is pretty similar to the PG-7. i generally like my back fins to "match", template-wise, my front fins on quads.

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My experience with the dharma is similar to vonmeister. Had one for a several months and found the board to be tracky, hard to get up the face, and overall lifeless despite trying different fin combos, all riding beachbreak. I had a lot of hope for the dharma, but it turned out to be my least favorite board in the last 5 years. Maybe it would have worked at a point. That's my honest review.