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Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: BFilk] #2236595
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Let's not forget, its always the architect who gets credit for the design, never the construction worker(s).

Is sad when you talk so highly of a board a shaper created .

Not who you credit .

Thats the joke . roflmao

Back to who has the best knobbies . smile2

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As far as getting on rail and grovelers , there needs to be some resistance to turn the board so you can push hard enough to get it on rail without overturning .
If it" turns on a dime " you will only be able to ride it flat because as soon as you put pressure on it , it will over turn , unless you stiffen you stance to hold it on a line like Kelly does on his very sensitive boards .

Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: jkb] #2236623
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Its Johnny's birthday today . smile2


Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: Greg Griffin] #2236845
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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin
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Its Johnny's birthday today . smile2



"You gotta just do it. And not say it. 'Cuz talk is cheap."
My friends and I used to crack up at his quote in one of the old surf movies. Amazing Surf Stories (?) or one of those.

Power for sure, but the anti-Curren in style.


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Originally Posted By: Greg Griffin


As far as getting on rail and grovelers , there needs to be some resistance to turn the board so you can push hard enough to get it on rail without overturning .
If it" turns on a dime " you will only be able to ride it flat because as soon as you put pressure on it , it will over turn , unless you stiffen you stance to hold it on a line like Kelly does on his very sensitive boards .

fin changes for different conditions help draw turns out on 'dime turning' boards aswell as using pure technique/skill which some might struggle with, up and down or round and round surfing at the turn of a fin screw! unless you want to do both in which case i'm out...

Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: ghostshaper] #2236882
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If you were there you would talk differently .

Not a big deal , ask anyone on the North Shore who was there .

Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: theGraft] #2236939
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I've seen Johnny Boy surf many times, during his peak, from the water and from the beach at contests. Griffin is right no one power surfs like him. He turned so hard he would come to a complete stop at places like Pipe. It didn't always look good on lesser waves, don't know if that's the right word, maybe standard, because it didn't flow. But those turns were impressive.

I don't think I ever saw Johnny grovel. He was surfing Bowls a lot last year. I think I saw him paddle out last week. He looked a little bigger than he did last year. Still a very powerful impressive surfer.

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Originally Posted By: teeroi
I've seen Johnny Boy surf many times, during his peak, from the water and from the beach at contests. Griffin is right no one power surfs like him. He turned so hard he would come to a complete stop at places like Pipe. It didn't always look good on lesser waves, don't know if that's the right word, maybe standard, because it didn't flow. But those turns were impressive.

I don't think I ever saw Johnny grovel. He was surfing Bowls a lot last year. I think I saw him paddle out last week. He looked a little bigger than he did last year. Still a very powerful impressive surfer.

I love JBG surfing and to my eye this is what I consider good surfing to be but how about Dane kealoha? Growing up I admired DK, LB, and buttons and always tried to surf like them after studying pics for hours from the mags wave2




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Look at the rails on that board. There is no way anyone could put that board on rail. Why, there are people on the erBB that have .5 too many liters or 1/16" of thickness more than they ordered that can only go straight because their board is "corky." I call photo shop.

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He also looks like he can leg press half a ton


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Re: On-rail grovelers? [Re: ifallalot] #2237041
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I surfed with JBG a lot back then when he was sponsored by the Willis Brothers , then Blue Hawaii .

I convinced Craig the owner of T&C to pick him up , he was very concerned that he could not ride tiny surf .

I knew different .

Shortly after the China's meet was held in micro conditions and I got a call that night from Craig blown away by how fast JBG went and what he did in that dribble .

Dane was one of his heroes , Nice board in that middle pic smile2

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Dane's one of my surf heroes, too.

I've seen both Dane and JBG surf small waves neither grovel. I've seen Johnny Boy do a backside hack at small Bowls after the spray came down there was no evidence of a wave left.

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Thats nice ,

We used to surf Goat Island each summer
even in the smallest wind swell he would rip .

He would train with the Ho's at micro monster mush in the summer and make it further to the beach than either of them dead spots and all . smile2

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You should make him a board. He's riding really big pop outs. He's huge but a board made specifically for him.....

I think Ben loaned him a couple of big boy boards last summer, then he was on a massive FW. If it was him I saw paddling out last week it looked like he was on a small SUP. I tried looking at the guys face then his tattoos to see if it was JBG. But I was on the whitewater in and he was paddling out.

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Originally Posted By: teeroi
Dane's one of my surf heroes, too.

I've seen both Dane and JBG surf small waves neither grovel. I've seen Johnny Boy do a backside hack at small Bowls after the spray came down there was no evidence of a wave left.

In the early 80's I went to the OP pro and watched Dane kill the slop at the pier and to this day I still have his autograph on my Op pro program cheers Yes DK has leg strength and yes this is why I still do squats at 44 so I still try to have a powerful bottom turn socrazy


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I think his main focus in life now is his daughter .

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