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#2079834 - 07/11/13 10:44 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: psykophant]
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This argument is stupid. Sex sells. Get used to it. If you haven't, you've been under a rock. The parents here, myself included, raise our kids well, or horribly. We either do or do not raise aware children who grow up to be decent adults. It goes against everything I used to think was cool, funny, or punk rock, but that was me as a kid. I have a 13 year old, who is a very young, beautiful child. I owe it to her to mature, and to do the right thing. I look at Rickoray, and I see how Lulu and Emma are, and I admire that. I think his girls are great role models for my daughter. I then see other peoples kids, and I'm not shocked, just grossed out. I'm not going to name them. You know who they are. These parents are pimps. It's simple. Some parents suck, and some parents rule. Sex will be used to sell products forever, just as it always has been. Toddlers and Tiara's, Surfy Sexy, Money for Models, prostitution, same thing. Hopefully, my daughter will know better because her mother and I know better. Kids do what they are taught, basically.
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#2079835 - 07/11/13 10:52 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: rice]
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Who is talking about rapists?




Gdaddy was, i assumed, when he mentioned being on the lookout while a child was being bathed in public.
And it's not about rape specifically as i'm sure you get.
I don't like setting the stage for victim blaming, and the double standards are funny, that's all.


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What about just acting classy? At any age?




That's a much better tack, but it isn't the tone this thread has been taking now is it?
Do i need to quote everyone?


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Okay. Simple question, if you had a 12 year old daughter and she wanted a thong and a tattoo and to be in a pageant, would you pay for that and be okay with that?




Nope, but i don't blame kids for the acts of perverts.
I also think women have enough body issues as it is, so i don't think it's helpful to go down a shaming route.
The US is sooo provincial with regards to nudity it's laughable.
This whole "OH NO! A BUTT!!!" thing is a direct result of that.
Sharia law is thataway folks...
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#2079836 - 07/11/13 11:10 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: psykophant]
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#2079837 - 07/11/13 11:15 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: Commodore]
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taste the rainbow.

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#2079838 - 07/11/13 11:26 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: Bonzer5Fin]
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It's simple. Some parents suck, and some parents rule. Sex will be used to sell products forever, just as it always has been.




Now now, this thread has legs.

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#2079839 - 07/11/13 11:26 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: psykophant]
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Who is talking about rapists?




Gdaddy was, i assumed, when he mentioned being on the lookout while a child was being bathed in public.

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What about just acting classy? At any age?




That's a much better tack

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Okay. Simple question, if you had a 12 year old daughter and she wanted a thong and a tattoo and to be in a pageant, would you pay for that and be okay with that?




Nope





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#2079840 - 07/11/13 11:30 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: psykophant]
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It's simple. Some parents suck, and some parents rule. Sex will be used to sell products forever, just as it always has been.




Now now, this thread has legs.






You can't show people f'in to sell product.

Someone is creating boundaries.

So we're slutting up the 14 year old to sell product.

The parents are down with it and so are the people selling products. The kids love the attention.

Why not a nice 14 year old vag shot?

If the butt of the genetically gift 14 year old looks good, imagine what her vag would look like?

Sex sell right?

Where is the line drawn?

People are savages.

Haha, I sound like surfdog now.

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#2079841 - 07/11/13 11:38 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: Autoprax]
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#2079842 - 07/11/13 11:39 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: Autoprax]
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#2079843 - 07/11/13 11:41 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: rice]
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Just note that the very first response in this thread mentions molestation, and even if that's not your position, it is the consistent theme.

You also posed a complex question.
I'd have a hard time with the pageant thing at all, i just think they are creepy.
Though if your kid gets it in their head that that's really what they want to do, that's entirely different than the parents who are exploiting their kids.
The tattoo would be nixed until adulthood.
The thong is the thing i'd have the least problem with.

I should mention that i used to date the cute hapa model girls in HS, who would go on extended, essentially unchaperoned gigs out of the country.
I know exactly how insidious that industry is, and will likely always be.
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#2079844 - 07/11/13 11:42 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: psykophant]
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#2079845 - 07/11/13 11:54 AM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: Autoprax]
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If the butt of the genetically gift 14 year old looks good, imagine what her vag would look like



You never know. Hot chicks can have some beat roast beef sometimes and some perfect closed clams other times. But you can dream.

More thong pics, less arguing. Remember most of us have testicles here
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#2079846 - 07/11/13 12:13 PM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: ifallalot]
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Burning Question: Should Willow Smith really be singing about a "Summer Fling" at 12? The video looks inappropriate for her age, too. Y.W., Detroit

If you're speaking about those lyrics "It's just a few months, but we do it anyway" followed by filmed flirtations with someone who appears to be much older than Willow, you're not alone.

Sure, the video also has plenty of teen-appropriate japery, like trampoline jumping, fake British accents and super soakers. But that isn't stopping the Twitterverse from weighing in with very mixed reactions.

"What the hell," an @ethannovak tweeted. "Have you guys seen Willow Smith's music video for 'Summer Fling'? She is 12. Super disturbing."

"Willow smith is 12 years old," @foyinog echoed. "I know that, but does she?"

However, the real backlash is coming from the child development community. The general gist: A "summer fling" theme may sound innocent compared with, say, an Eminem song. But it's still way too old for Smith's audience.

"It is not age-appropriate for a 12-year-old to be singing these kinds of lyrics or to be involved in a scenario like this," says psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman. "The argument may be that it's pretend, but there is the psychological impact on her. Do you want your 12-year-old already seen as a sex symbol?"

Other experts put it more succinctly.

"She has a boyfriend?" child development and behavior specialist Betsy Brown Braun exclaimed to me. "And she's 12?

"There is no accounting for some people's parenting decisions. My sadness over this is that people are going to look at these behaviors singing about something that is emotionally too old for this child and think it's OK. That is what I weep and worry about. Because it's not OK."

Even the notion of a "summer fling" actually isn't recommended for a kid Willow's age.

"A summer fling is usually used to describe something physical, sexual, with no long-term attachment," notes parenting expert Robyn Silverman. "People don't want to hear about 12-year-olds talking about good-night kisses. It feels out of place; too old and sexualized."

All that said, some people don't see anything wrong with the song or its content.

"I seriously loved the video," a tweeter named Jasmine said. "Ignore all the other comments, Willow."

And, in a way, the video may actually provide a benefit to parents who are plugged-in enough to know opportunity when they see it.

"What Willow is providing is a glimpse of our time," Silverman posits. "Many kids are growing up faster than is appropriate, and perhaps her video is a perfect chance for parents to talk to their children about this.

"Does this video represent the way their kids actually feel at that age? If so, maybe our problem isn't with Willow, but with society at large."

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#2079847 - 07/11/13 12:21 PM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: HarryLopez]
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Will Smith ought to know better, and his nasty ass wife was probably cool with it, so there ya go. That chick wears the strap on in that family.
Just because the parents are famous, doesn't mean they are good parents. Stage parents come from all over the place.
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#2079848 - 07/11/13 12:23 PM Re: THONG BIKINIS: Now standard for 14-18 y/o female surf "stars"/groupies? [Re: ifallalot]
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If the butt of the genetically gift 14 year old looks good, imagine what her vag would look like



You never know. Hot chicks can have some beat roast beef sometimes and some perfect closed clams other times. But you can dream.






The girl with the best vag I ever had sex with had below average T's. (She had a good butt though--so my theory could still hold water)

But the girl with the best T's I had sex with has an okay vag.

If I could take the Ts of girl B and put them on girl A, that girl would be at super hero status.

It would be cool if I could interchange the heads because variety is the spice of life.

Some day I would even stick the bad vag with the bad boobs and no head just for a goof.

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