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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: dkennedys11] #1994450
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I am totally fine with riding a board that has little or no margin for error.

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: JLW] #1994451
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Good read on the Proton, Whiplash, Simon's SXE, board design.

http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showfla...e=6#Post1620611

http://www.cisurfboards.com/blog/2011/jordy-smiths-quiver-for-the-rip-curl-pro-search-san-francisco/

Reread Aruka's and Meangreens comments, they are right on the money.
Definitely a specialty board for me, but I am hooked.
I own two Proton step ups, I only use them when certain reefs get large, and are firing.

This design is a challenge, but can be very rewarding in the right waves.
Because of it's extreme rocker, don't be afraid to go a few inches longer.,
it rides short. A 6'10" will surf and feel like a 6'6".
The DFR would be a great step down, to the Proton.

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: JLW] #1994452
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I hove both and love them both. the proton kills it, but it seemed to me like if you have to be 100% tuned with the wave and yourself and the board to take the most out of it. the rookie does feel good more often than the proton and it's more user friendly, but when you, the wave, the proton are tuned in, no way for the rookie. btw, in my opinion they both need a good steep wave. if you're problem is to go on flat spots, i would not suggest you neither. DFR looks amazing...does anyone know if is it good in smaller wave?i don't want to buy a ddiver or something similar stubby, i want a normal shortboard that goes quite good even in smaller stuff. anyone tried it?hope in the future to find a used one...650$ these days...ggggggh

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: benjisurfer] #1994453
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felt up a 6'2 at HSS that I'm thinking about getting. it's got about 8" of nose rocker and 4.5" tail. not that extreme as I thought it'd be. felt beefy and looks like it'd go good on the better days at my local breaks.


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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: Havoc] #1994454
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question for you CI freaks should be, what board was Seabass riding today

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: stu dog] #1994455
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question for you CI freaks should be, what board was Seabass riding today




pretty sure it was a rockered out deep single concave proton with 8" nose rocker and maybe a bit more but not extreme tail rocker, something like 4.75". He was killing it!


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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: Havoc] #1994456
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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: laidback] #1994457
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I pulled the trigger on the Rookie. The waves were 6-8 foot and pretty powerful. It was a pretty awkward session. For some reason, whenever I went to do a turn, I had a lot of trouble driving off the bottom and projecting through the lip really hard. I'm not sure what it was. I'd go up and the board would want to straighten out instead of letting me jam the tail in and pivot off the top. I was using vector 437s and I think I need to switch to the vector 450s, I think that will be an improvement right off the bat.

This rookie that I bought is 5'10" x 18" x 2", 22.0 liters of volume. I'm 155 pounds.

My 'old' board is 5'10" x 18 1/8" x 2 1/8" but the rails were much more tapered. The wide point and the thickness is set further back compared to the rookie. Even though it's 1/8" wider and 1/8" thicker, it still doesn't paddle as well and probably has less volume. This board felt a bit slower off the get-go, but it really felt like it was easier to bury my rail on this board compared to the rookie; I surf way better on it. Even though the Rookie paddles way better, it didn't seem to hold in nearly as well as my other 5'10" in waves that size, which is why I'm switching to bigger fins.

I think it will just take a little more adjustment. I'll give it 3 more sessions and swap out the fins. One thing I will say is that I did a RIDICULOUS gaff on an overhead left; it felt amazing. I came up, projected off the bottom and instead of hitting it vertically, I went a little bit more laterally and just wrapped around with all I had and slid the fins out a bit at the end of the turn. I came back down with a ton of speed and did another awkward half-turn off the top (frontside snaps are usually my bread and butter but I just can't seem to do them well on the Rookie)

We'll see what happens.

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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: JLW] #1994458
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maybe try flat sided fins. I don't like the feel of the foiled/cambered/concave etc fins - especially when the waves are good and powerful.

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: daave] #1994459
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Seabass was on a 6'2 proton step FYI

JLW it seems like u are riding incredibly small boards for your weight. Maybe not length but definitely in width and thickness. I know most pros lighter than you who are running at least 18 1/4 width and 2 1/8 thickness...just a thought.

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: volcom415] #1994460
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I actually surf way better on smaller boards (the exception being this Rookie). It's just what I'm comfortable with. Also keep in mind, my boards tend to hide a lot of volume. I know that on paper 5'10" x 18" x 2" seems ridiculous, but there's actually quite a bit of volume in that board.

I've noticed that even the pros ride bigger boards than me. But I've tried bigger boards and they just don't work

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Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: JLW] #1994461
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At least u tried them and have dialed into what you like. Picked up a little custom proton RP that I'm drying to try...just need some proper waves.

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: stu dog] #1994462
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question for you CI freaks should be, what board was Seabass riding today






proton round pin

Re: Channel Islands Proton? Rookie? Other boards? [Re: retodd] #1994463
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