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JS Blak Box Review (with pics) #1636361
11/05/10 10:12 PM
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JS Blakbox Review

Rider: Havoc
Height: 5’10
Weight: 160-ish
Level: kook+ hero to zero and back again on nearly every wave these days. I’m coined as the most inconsistent surfar dude ever...
Experience: 23 years surfboarding
Age: Middle or getting darn near it

I picked this board up at the froghouse on a whim as a birthday present to myself… felt just right under my arm with a nice foil in the rails, nose, and tail. JS rec’s you ride these 3-4” inches shorter than a good wave thruster.
My standard good wave thruster which is 6’2x18.78x2.38 or so, so 5’10 fit the bill. Board is 5’10x19.75x2.38. At first I thought the width was a bit much but there’s a reason…

From my very first wave I knew I had something special under my feet, felt very front foot friendly in the sense that I can pump off my front foot and initiate my turns with my front foot as well, almost like a steering wheel. When I punch it off the back foot coming off the bottom, it also feels really good with lots of drive there so I’d say the board is pretty neutral overall. Really snappy but at the same time carvy if you will. Nice balance of the two. Bottom contours are flat entry to double concave inside a single that goes deeper through the fins and exits in a single concave. Similar to a pavel speed dialer Rocker is relaxed with no crazy flip, just a nice gradual entry and exit which I like. Board is very refined and balanced. It looks like a lot of thought went into the foam placement, rails, template, and especially bottom contours.

So far I’ve ridden the board in everything from knee high slop to HH lined up beachbreak. It goes good in everything. Feels like the tail is a bit too wide for the bigger days as it wants to skip out and it doesn’t grovel as nearly as well as a lot of other boards out there, but the blakbox is a terrific daily driver. When the reports say 2-3 or 2-4 ft socal this is my weapon of choice. It’s fast down the line and goes top to bottom well. Cutbacks are smooth and flowing and I’ve gotten a few nice vertical (in my mind ) end section smacks on it. Everyone who rides it digs it.

The finishing quality is second to none. Has a madluc label but not the made in oz logo so I assume made in USA. I don’t know who signed it but it looks like ‘79’ or ‘97’ or something. I’ve noticed this same sig on some of the cleanest finished JS boards at some of the other surf shops… Hoyte maybe? Either way, after almost 4 months of continuous use, this thing only has minor denting on the deck… everything is solid. One of the lightest and strongest poly’s I’ve ever ridden.

Couple things, the double concave makes the board ride a lot narrower than it is and the front rail never catches due to this bottom and the way the rails are foiled. Feels more like 19” wide versus 19.75. Lastly, I could go 1” shorter with ease on this puppy which I will likely do on my next one but I do not have any issues with getting my back foot far enough back. It’s nearly always in that sweet spot in between the front and rear fins. Often further back during turns or lippers. One of the most intuitive and easy to surf boards out there… always leave the beach with a smile on my face. Stoked!!

Cheers,
Havoc


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Re: JS Blak Box Review [Re: Havoc] #1636362
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Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: Havoc] #1636363
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Thnx for the great review! I was really surprise that the board is that wide....the times that I tried it, it felt like 19.1/4 at most....pulled in nose area probably. Not bulky at all and flows really well! Really like that board from the very first wave....would love to try it in better conditions the next time we surf.
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Re: JS Blak Box Review [Re: Havoc] #1636364
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i concur. one of the most user friendly boards out there for sure. i'll end up going for some bottom contours like this on my next board

Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: Havoc] #1636365
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what fins have you been using on this?

Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: mikeg711] #1636366
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Quote:

what fins have you been using on this?




rode it with fcs fg5's and liked those fins a lot, maybe a hair underfinned. Currently riding it with Griffin G10's 4.5" front w/ 4.38 rears. That set-up is great for small waves. For some bigger/steeper stuff I think the money set-up would be griffin G10 4.58 fronts and 4.38 rear or 4.5"'s all around.


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Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: Havoc] #1636367
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Thanks for the review. Sounds like you're riding it in what I was hoping to use it in 2-4ft CA days. Defiantly picking one up when I get back to CA

Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: Havoc] #1636368
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nice review

i tried this Blk Box for a few waves and had fun , for sure this bottom contour likes to be driven off the front foot ! i felt like it wanted to be on rail at all times . rail volume is perfect for my taste .

Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: Havoc] #1636369
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thanks for the review. been eyeing one of these as a dd for a bit now.

i'm the same size as you (5'10 x 160), but the 5'10 x 19 3/4 x 2 3/8 sounds big to me. would you go 5'8 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/4 if you could now?

Re: JS Blak Box Review (with pics) [Re: grecksy] #1636370
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Quote:

thanks for the review. been eyeing one of these as a dd for a bit now.

i'm the same size as you (5'10 x 160), but the 5'10 x 19 3/4 x 2 3/8 sounds big to me. would you go 5'8 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/4 if you could now?




I could easily go for the 5'8... it still has enough foam. However, the board is much more foiled out than say a dumpster diver or wd. The nose and tail are considerably thinner so you can ride them a bit longer. I never have trouble getting my foot back, in fact, I was popping wheelies and chit today on some of the facier waves since my foot was all the way back. My next one will likely be 5'9x19.75x2-1/4. or maybe 19.5 width. They ride narrower than they are due to the double concave. If you are surfing punchier stuff, go with the 5'8". I think a 5'9 scaled appropriately would be money but it all depends on preference. Keep in mind I'm a wheezy old middle aged asthmatic... but I did smack the lip today hard and the crowd backed off me for a bit and let me get some of the better sets.


Havoc


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"popping wheelies"...

good stuff man. only asked about the 5'8 as that's the only available here. very curious about the d concave under the front foot. sounds ideal for hh under days with good shape. the blakbox, a groveler, and a 6'1 or 6'2 step up could be a good minimalist quiver for the fiscally challenged.

again for the review.

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Really liking the look of this board. Tossing up between this and a WD.
Trying to get a grip on the dims i need. Im roughly 5'9 x 135.. maybe a bit more after Christmas (I asked Santa for a bit more height). My current ride is a 6 x 18.5 x 2.25 K board. Im thinking the 5'8 x 19.5 x 2.25 stock board. Or could I go smaller? Im not gunning to go smaller, just to do whats best. I only get one new board a year (poor student budget) so i really want to get it right before i commit.

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Quote:

Really liking the look of this board. Tossing up between this and a WD.
Trying to get a grip on the dims i need. Im roughly 5'9 x 135.. maybe a bit more after Christmas (I asked Santa for a bit more height). My current ride is a 6 x 18.5 x 2.25 K board. Im thinking the 5'8 x 19.5 x 2.25 stock board. Or could I go smaller? Im not gunning to go smaller, just to do whats best. I only get one new board a year (poor student budget) so i really want to get it right before i commit.




I'd say 4" shorter than a good wave shortboard (not stepup) is a good starting point. That's what I did and I'm happy. I could've gone down maybe 1" or so but that would also take away some of the grovel.

hard to say, WD grovels better and is more fishier. this is more of a mini hpsb that can also grovel. I's say thigh high to shoulder high is a good range for it.


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Really liking the look of this board. Tossing up between this and a WD.
Trying to get a grip on the dims i need. Im roughly 5'9 x 135.. maybe a bit more after Christmas (I asked Santa for a bit more height). My current ride is a 6 x 18.5 x 2.25 K board. Im thinking the 5'8 x 19.5 x 2.25 stock board. Or could I go smaller? Im not gunning to go smaller, just to do whats best. I only get one new board a year (poor student budget) so i really want to get it right before i commit.




if you like to drive off the back foot get the WD

front foot driver BB

the 5-8's stock dims would put you with more of an all-rounder , with a good set of fins you would be covered up to 7 foot faces .

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Great review. I'm selling my sonic and planning to pick up a blakbox in a couple months. My level is nothing great but I'm 5'8 and about 145 lbs. I'm thinking of either going 5'8 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/4 or possibly 5'7 x 19 1/4 x 2 1/8. Any reccomendations ? I know some guys my size would ride it 5'6 but I don't think I'm there yet...

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