REMINDER: Siteowner has no obligation to monitor the Forums. However, Siteowner reserves the right to review the Materials submitted to or posted on the Forums, and remove, delete, redact or otherwise modify such Materials, in its sole discretion and for any reason whatsoever, at any time and from time to time, without notice or further obligation to you. Siteowner has no obligation to display or post any Materials provided by you. Siteowner reserves the right to disclose, at any time and from time to time, any information or Materials that Siteowner deems necessary or appropriate to satisfy any applicable law, regulation, contract obligation, legal or dispute process or government request. To further read the rules and terms of agreement of this Forum, click here.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 46 1 2 3 4 5 45 46
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545640
09/19/10 09:55 PM
09/19/10 09:55 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545641
09/21/10 09:35 PM
09/21/10 09:35 PM
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,594
behind the woodshed
G
geedee Offline
Miki Dora status
geedee  Offline
Miki Dora status
**
G

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,594
behind the woodshed
I talk to myself a lot too.


You take what to the where?
Re: (damn) [Re: geedee] #1545642
09/24/10 08:08 PM
09/24/10 08:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: geedee] #1545643
10/02/10 08:57 PM
10/02/10 08:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545644
10/02/10 10:43 PM
10/02/10 10:43 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 20,702
In Gods Country
C
CharmingSophisticate Offline
Duke status
CharmingSophisticate  Offline
Duke status
**
C

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 20,702
In Gods Country
Tommy Jefferson was WRONG. (for the 2 people that are actually interested, Milty Friedman's series 'Free to Choose' is all over Youtube.)


"...now tell me that wasn't fun!" Capt. Jack Aubrey
Re: (damn) [Re: CharmingSophisticate] #1545645
10/07/10 08:19 PM
10/07/10 08:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
CHARMY,

TOMMY WAS WRONG AND UNCLE MILTY IS RIGHT?

FUNNY


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545646
10/10/10 08:13 AM
10/10/10 08:13 AM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
good coments from both sides of the isle at the bottom of this link


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Warren Buffett on Taxes
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010/10/06/warren-buffett-on-taxes.aspx

Morgan Housel
October 6, 2010


It's election season. Taxes are scheduled to rise sans intervention. Cue heated debates that involve few facts and lots of shouting.

Here, though, are some facts:


Source: Office of Management and Budget.
Tax receipts as a percentage of gross domestic product are extremely low on a historical basis. Most of this is because of the recession -- there's simply less income to tax. But here's another reason:


Source: Tax Policy Center.
Any rational debate on the fairness of raising top tax rates has to acknowledge that current rates are historically low to begin with. The focus shouldn't be on whether top rates go up or down; it should be on the raw level of rates. And right now, they're low. This is very likely why some wealthy corporate elites like Berkshire Hathaway's (NYSE: BRK-A) (NYSE: BRK-B) Warren Buffett, Bill Gates Sr. -- father of the Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) co-founder -- and Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX) CEO Reed Hastings have come out practically begging to have their taxes raised.

More specifically, here's Buffett yesterday:

We're going to have to get more [tax] money from somebody. The question is, do we get more money from the person that's going to serve me lunch today, or do we get it from me? I think we should get it from me. I have a lower tax rate, counting payroll taxes, than anybody in my office. And I don't have a tax shelter -- I just take the form and fill out the numbers. I think that's very wrong, and I think that if we're going to get money -- and we're going to need money; we are not taking in enough money at the federal government level ... it shouldn't be [from] the bottom 98%. It should be more from people at the top.

But is that the right thing to do with the economy in the dumps? Here's Buffett again:

If you get $100 billion more of taxes ... from people like me at the top, it means you borrow $100 billion less out of the economy. Somebody has to come up with that $100 billion ... you're taking the money from the economy either way. The only question is whether you take it by borrowing or by taxes. And I see no problem in taxing people at the very high levels significantly more than they're being taxed now. And I might very well cut taxes even further for the people at lower levels.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) #1545648
10/11/10 08:09 PM
10/11/10 08:09 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
Quote:

damn




CNN) -- The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says it plans to improve security procedures in the wake of an investigation into an al Qaeda suspect's employment at several U.S. nuclear power plants.
The investigation by the commission's inspector general was carried out at the request of Sen. Charles Schumer and Rep. William Owens, both New York Democrats, after it emerged that the al Qaeda suspect, Sharif Mobley, had worked for six years at nuclear power plants in the Northeast, mainly the Salem/Hope Creek plant in New Jersey.
The inspector general's report, which is heavily redacted for security reasons, says Mobley had unescorted access to the sites where he worked. However, it notes he did not have access to "safeguards information" or computer systems. The commission defines safeguards information as that likely to have "a significant adverse effect on the health and safety of the public" if disclosed.
The inspector general's report says Mobley's behavior should have raised suspicions.
It says one investigative report had revealed that while Mobley was employed at a nuclear power plant, he said: "We are brothers in the union, but if holy war comes, look out." He also expressed the view that Islam is the only true faith and that all non-Muslims are infidels and was observed "with unusual Web sites on his personal computer, including one with a picture of a mushroom cloud."
The report adds that an employee who had known Mobley since 2002 was aware of this information but it had come to light only during the inspector general's investigation.
Mobley's attorney, Cori Crider, said he had been a welder and carried out menial work at the nuclear plants and rejected any suggestion that he had terrorist intent while there. "I really don't know how to dignify that with a response; it's just false," she said. "The idea that he had any nuclear secrets and that he would have sold them to al Qaeda is totally false."
In his report, Nuclear Regulatory Commission Inspector General Hubert T. Bell recommends improving employee training to detect behavior that might indicate terrorist intent and allowing the commission direct access to an industrywide database showing who has authorized access within nuclear power plants.
The report also notes that individuals seeking unescorted access to nuclear power plants were not required to disclose foreign travel in personal history questionnaires. "Unescorted access" is required for a significant number of temporary employees involved in maintenance such as refueling or steam generator overhaul.
Mobley was arrested in Yemen in March as a suspected member of al Qaeda. A week after he was detained, he is alleged to have shot two guards, one fatally, during an escape attempt from a hospital in the capital, Sanaa. He has been charged in connection with the shootings, and his trial is to begin this month.
Commission officials said their existing access to personnel databases is "robust" but agreed with the inspector general's overall recommendations.
Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokeswoman Holly Harrington said the commission has begun work on some security improvements and expects to introduce others based on the report's recommendations. She would not disclose what action is being taken for security reasons.
Schumer welcomed the report, saying: "This security plan will protect all New Yorkers, and is a victory for nuclear power plants and their workers, who will now have enhanced protections. The plants in New York have a strong safety record, and these tools will help them make it even stronger."


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545649
10/20/10 10:04 PM
10/20/10 10:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545650
10/20/10 10:54 PM
10/20/10 10:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) #1545652
10/31/10 09:36 PM
10/31/10 09:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
October 30, 2010
The Grand Old Plot Against the Tea PartyBy FRANK RICH
ONE dirty little secret of the 2010 election is that it wont be a political tragedy for Democrats if a Tea Party icon like Sharron Angle or Joe Miller ends up in the United States Senate. Angle, now synonymous with racist ads sliming Hispanics, and Miller, already on record threatening a government shutdown, are fired up and ready to go as symbols of G.O.P. extremism for 2012 and beyond.

Whats not so secret is that some Republicans will be just as happy if some of these characters lose, and for the same reason.

But whatever Tuesdays results, this much is certain: The Tea Partys hopes for actually effecting change in Washington will start being dashed the morning after. The ordinary Americans in this movement lack the numbers and financial clout to muscle their way into the back rooms of Republican power no matter how well their candidates perform.

Trent Lott, the former Senate leader and current top-dog lobbyist, gave away the game in July. We dont need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples, he said, referring to the South Carolina senator who is the Tea Partys Capitol Hill patron saint. As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them. Its the players who wrote the checks for the G.O.P. surge, not those earnest folk in tri-corner hats, who plan to run the table in the next corporate takeover of Washington. Though Tom DeLay may now be on trial for corruption in Texas, the spirit of his K Street lives on in a Lott client list that includes Northrop Grumman and Goldman Sachs.

Karl Rove outed the Republican elites contempt for Tea Partiers in the campaigns final stretch. Much as Barack Obama thought he was safe soliloquizing about angry white Middle Americans clinging to guns or religion at a San Francisco fund-raiser in 2008, so Rove now parades his disdain for the same constituency when speaking to the European press. This month he told Der Spiegel that Tea Partiers are not sophisticated, and then scoffed, Its not like these people have read the economist Friedrich August von Hayek. Given that Glenn Beck has made a cause of putting Hayeks dense 1944 antigovernment treatise The Road to Serfdom on the best-seller list and Tea Partiers widely claim to have read it, Rove could hardly have been more condescending to these people. Last week, for added insult, he mocked Sarah Palins imminent Discovery Channel reality show to Londons Daily Telegraph.

This animus has not gone unnoticed among those supposedly less sophisticated conservatives back home. Mike Huckabee, still steamed about Roves previous put-down of Christine ODonnell, publicly lamented the Republican establishments elitism and country club attitude. This country club elite, he said, is happy for Tea Partiers to put up signs, work the phones and make those pesky little trips door-to-door that it finds a frightful inconvenience. But the members wont let the hoi polloi dine with them in the clubs main dining room any more than David H. Koch, the billionaire sugar daddy of the Republican right, will invite ODonnell into his box at the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center to take in The Nutcracker.

The main dining room remains reserved for Kochs fellow oil barons, Lotts clients, the corporate contributors (known and anonymous) to groups like Roves American Crossroads, and, of course, the large coterie of special interests underwriting John Boehner, the presumptive next speaker of the House. Boehner is the largest House recipient of Wall Street money this year much of it from financial institutions bailed out by TARP.

His Senate counterpart, Mitch McConnell, will be certain to stop any Tea Party hillbillies from disrupting his chapter of the club (as he tried to stop Rand Paul in his own states G.O.P. primary). McConnells pets in his chambers freshman G.O.P. class will instead be old-school conservatives like Dan Coats (of Indiana), Rob Portman (of Ohio) and, if he squeaks in, Pat Toomey (of Pennsylvania). The first two are former lobbyists; Toomey ran the corporate interest group, the Club for Growth. They can be counted on to execute an efficient distribution of corporate favors and pork after they make their latest swing through Capitol Hills revolving door.

What the Tea Party ostensibly wants most less government spending and smaller federal deficits is not remotely happening on the country club G.O.P.s watch. The elites have no serious plans to cut anything except taxes and regulation of their favored industries. The partys principal 2010 campaign document, its Pledge to America, doesnt vow to cut even earmarks which barely amount to a rounding error in the federal budget anyway. Boehner has also proposed a return to pre-crash 2008 levels in nonsecurity discretionary spending another mere bagatelle ($105 billion) next to the current $1.3 trillion deficit. And that wont be happening either, once the actual cuts in departments like Education, Transportation and Interior are specified to their constituencies.

Perhaps the campaigns most telling exchange took place on Fox News two weeks ago, when the Tea Party-embracing Senate candidate in California, Carly Fiorina, was asked seven times by Chris Wallace to name one single entitlement expenditure youre willing to cut in order to extend all the Bush tax cuts, which would add 4 trillion to the deficit. She never did. At least Angle and Paul have been honest about what theyd slash if in power respectively Social Security and defense, where the big government spending actually resides.

Thats not happening either. McConnell has explained his only real priority for the new Congress with admirable candor. The single most important thing we want to achieve, he said, is for President Obama to be a one-term president. Any assault on Social Security would defeat that goal, and a serious shake-up of the Pentagon budget would alienate the neoconservative ideologues and military contractors who are far more important to the G.O.P. establishment than the dont tread on me crowd.

For sure, the Republican elites found the Tea Party invaluable on the way to this Election Day. And not merely, as Huckabee has it, because they wanted its foot soldiers. What made the Tea Party most useful was that its loud populist message gave the G.O.P. just the cover it needed both to camouflage its corporate patrons and to rebrand itself as a party miraculously antithetical to the despised G.O.P. that gave us George W. Bush and record deficits only yesterday.

Rupert Murdochs Fox News and Wall Street Journal have been arduous in promoting and inflating Tea Party events and celebrities to this propagandistic end. The more the Tea Party looks as if its calling the shots in the G.O.P., the easier it is to distract attention from those who are actually calling them namely, those whove cashed in and cashed out as ordinary Americans lost their jobs, homes and 401(k)s. Typical of this smokescreen is a new book titled Mad as Hell, published this fall by a Murdoch imprint. In it, the pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Douglas Schoen make the case, as they recently put it in Politico, that the Tea Party is the most powerful and potent force in America.

They are expert at producing poll numbers to bear that out. By counting those with friends and family in the movement, Rasmussen has calculated that 29 percent of Americans are tied to the Tea Party. (If you factor in six degrees of Kevin Bacon, the number would surely double.) But cooler empirical data reveal the truth known by the G.O.P. establishment: An August CNN poll found that 2 percent of Americans consider themselves active members of the Tea Party.

That result was confirmed last weekend by The Washington Post, which published the fruits of its months-long effort to contact every Tea Party group in the country. To this end, it enlisted the help of Tea Party Patriots, the only Tea Party umbrella group that actually can claim to be a spontaneous, bottom-up, grass roots organization rather than a front for the same old fat cats of the Republican right, from the Koch brothers to Dick Armeys FreedomWorks. Tea Party Patriots has claimed anywhere from 2,300 to nearly 3,000 local affiliates, but even with its assistance, The Post could verify a total of only 647 Tea Party groups nationwide. Most had fewer than 50 members. The median amount of money each group had raised in 2010 was $800, nowhere near the entry fee for the country club.

But those Americans, like all the others on the short end of the 2008 crash, have reason to be mad as hell. And their numbers will surely grow once the Republican establishments panacea of tax cuts proves as ineffectual at creating jobs, saving homes and cutting deficits as the half-measures of the Obama White House and the Democratic Congress. The tempest, however, will not be contained within the tiny Tea Party but will instead overrun the Republican Party itself, where Palin, with Murdoch and Beck at her back, waits in the wings to take back America not just from Obama but from the G.O.P. country club elites now mocking her. By then after another two years of political gridlock and economic sclerosis the equally disillusioned right and left may have a showdown that makes this election year look as benign as Woodstock.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) #1545654
11/02/10 08:31 PM
11/02/10 08:31 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
Quote:

Get out and vote!






Good Luck America!!!!!!!!


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) #1545655
11/02/10 08:36 PM
11/02/10 08:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Re: (damn) [Re: sirfun] #1545656
11/03/10 01:17 PM
11/03/10 01:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 56,447
HB, CA
I
ifallalot Offline
Duke status
ifallalot  Offline
Duke status
**
I

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 56,447
HB, CA
just shows how retarded we are as Americans. People wanted change and thought 2 years could fix 8 years of a mess

lets see if anything happens besides the rich getting richer in the next 2 years


My entire existence is a failed gotcha
Re: (damn) [Re: ifallalot] #1545657
11/10/10 08:51 PM
11/10/10 08:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
S
sirfun Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
sirfun  Offline OP
Phil Edwards status
**
S

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,060
U.S.A.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131194364

A small environmental miracle has occurred in Beatty, Nev., a former mining town that sits on the eastern edge of Death Valley between Jackass Flats and Sober Up Gulch. The people of Beatty have helped revive the Amargosa toad, a warty, speckled, palm-sized creature that's unique to the area and, just a few years ago, seemed headed for extinction.

But this is not your typical story of environmental action the toad owes its comeback to an unlikely coalition that includes ranchers, miners, off-road racers, opponents of big government and the local brothel.

The toads come out at night, and twice a year around June, so does a team of volunteers assembled by the Nevada Department of Wildlife to count them. Shuffling through a cattle pasture armed with buckets and flashlights, Brian Hobbs, an amphibian biologist with the state, leads a group in gathering the toads. They live anywhere there is water.

Even though the area around Beatty is desert, there's quite a bit of water, thanks to natural hot springs and a fitful creek known as the Amargosa River.

The volunteers place an electronic tag under the skin of any toad that doesn't already have one. It's quiet work female toads are silent and so are the males, unless they're being mounted by another male or squeezed by a scientist.

One toad receiving a tag gives his "release call," then urinates copiously on the tagger. That gets a big laugh from the other volunteers.

After more than an hour in the pasture, though, the team has found only nine toads. So they head down to the house where David Spicer, a rancher, lives with his family. Spicer comes out to greet them and announces that his yard is packed with toads.

"When we go over by this light, we're going to really all need every one of us," Spicer says as he takes the group toward one of his outbuildings. "There's like 50 to 60 that'll be over there. An enormous amount of them. We're like toad farmers around here."

Spicer's right. The volunteers have hit the toad mother lode. Pretty soon their buckets are full and release calls fill the air.

Protecting Toads To Keep Private Land Private

"What you're seeing tonight are the results of active land management, active habitat management," Spicer says

He has run miles of underground pipe around his property to create breeding pools and wet habitat for the toads. Spicer grew up with the toads and wants to preserve them, he says.

But here's the surprising thing: Another reason, and perhaps the major reason Spicer has gone to such lengths is because he really, really does not like the Endangered Species Act.

"Nobody trusts the government anymore," Spicer says. "Nobody wants to work with the government. The government always wants to take something from you."

So Spicer got worried more than a decade ago when some scientists declared that there were only a few dozen Amargosa toads left. Soon after that, when a group petitioned the federal government to add the toad to the endangered species list, Spicer came up with a plan.

"You need to defend yourself against such actions like that because that's not a good thing to have happen," he says.

Spicer feared the government would try to protect the toads by telling him he couldn't raise cattle or ride off-road vehicles on his own property. So he helped start a group called STORM-OV, which stands for Saving Toads thru Off-Road Racing, Mining and Ranching in Oasis Valley.

STORM-OV has worked with the government, groups like the Nature Conservancy and with locals who just want to save the toad.

"We want to keep it in our hands, where it's at a local level, where we can do things and be nimble," Spicer says. "You get restricted by bureaucracy, the monstrous, litigious things that go on in the Endangered Species Act, and we're definitely not going to have any fun on our own ranches anymore."

The group has persuaded land owners to make their properties toad-friendly. They've also worked to get rid of non-native animals like bullfrogs and crawdads, which eat toad eggs and tadpoles, and invasive plants like tamarisk and cattail that clog the springs where toads live.

Toad Tourism?

Other people in Beatty see toad preservation as a way to revive their town.

Kay Tarr is a retired schoolteacher who sits on the Beatty Habitat Committee. To the flock of kids who always seem to be scampering through her doublewide, she's known as Grandma Kay. Tarr likes to give tours of Beatty in her golf cart a spinal tumor left her unable to work the brake and accelerator pedals with her feet, so she uses the tip of a cane.

"That used to be the casino over there, and oh it was a fun place, before our town died," she says, driving down the main street toward Beatty's only stoplight.

"We used to have street dances out here in the parking lot," she says. "Bands up on the trucks. Everybody dancing in the street. They even made me get out there and dance in my wheelchair."

Beatty was home to more than 2,000 people when the Bullfrog gold mine was still operating a few miles away. Now there might be half that many.

But Tarr and other members of the Habitat Committee think the Amargosa toad could revive Beatty. Their plan is to create a nature trail along the stretch of Amargosa River that runs through town.

"See those benches and the trash cans," she says bumping along a dirt path next to the river. "We'd like to put those all along the riverbed. And this right here is where we'd like to start our trail."

The idea is that an attraction featuring the Amargosa toad would encourage visitors to stay just a little longer. And that idea has gained some traction among residents.

"It's been slow and it's been tedious and it's been frustrating," says Shirley Harlan, who lives outside Beatty and is president of Friends of the Amargosa Toad. "But within the past, I'd say, three years, have we gotten the public educated sufficiently to realize that [the toad] is an asset?"

A Toad-Friendly Brothel

That message has clearly reached Angel's Ladies, a licensed brothel just up the road. The brothel is run by a couple who used to be in the funeral home business. It even has its own airstrip, complete with the carcass of a twin-engine plane that crashed while landing there more than 30 years ago.

"Here, I'll show you one of the bungalows," says Tom Arillaga, who helps maintain the collection of small buildings that comprise Angel's Ladies.

"We have two of these bungalows, plus every girl has their own room decorated, you know, for customers," he says

The brothel is toad-friendly, right down to the clothing-optional swimming pool out back, Arillaga says.

"We don't bother them or anything like that," he says "The pool is not chemically treated, so they go in the pool and their eggs wash down the creek here, and then they hatch along the creek.

Arillaga adds that most swimmers seem to like the toads.

"There's are a few of them up there I've named," he says. "Big fat ones that come out when I come up here at nighttime and swim, and they'll just come right up to me, and I sit there and I talk to them, and they look at me like I'm their friend, you know. They're kinda cute."

It's a quirky kind of environmentalism. But it seems to be working. This year's toad counts show that their numbers remain in the thousands. And earlier this year, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service rejected the latest petition to place the Amargosa toad on the endangered species list.


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union .. cheers
Page 3 of 46 1 2 3 4 5 45 46

Moderated by  Groundswell, Nameless60, r32