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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: Clayster] #1404215
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Just curious: are some of the posters suggesting that because Fred is a Republican, a bit to the right, and something of a "square" that it is worse for his wife to have embezzled? Doesn't that imply that if you are a Democrat, to the left, and "hip", that embezzlement is okay?
I don't know if his wife is guilty or not, but I'm having a hard time understanding the "right" v. "left" aspect of this; embezzlement is wrong, regardless of your political leanings.




Because the main stream media is overwhelmingly from the Left and most, but not all, are cheerleaders for the Liberal/Left.

If they want you to hear about something (like Conservative Fred Hemmings wife) and remember it, then it gets in the paper repeatedly.

If it's a Liberal/Lefty caught doing something?
"Nothing to see here, keep moving".


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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: kaginba] #1404216
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Concur with kaginba and a few others that Fred is decent guy. World champ and one of the founders of pro surfing. Actually started off a Wide World of Sports Makaha contest show by riding to the shore with Rell Sunn on his shoulders, stepping off the board, and starting their interview coverage--classic! For the longest time was one of the few Republicans in a very Democratic state legislature.

I once shared the lineup with him at huge Makaha ( "It just doesn't get any better than this" -- 2/14/98). Cool thing is like six-seven years later I talked to him and he remembered me and that very session! (He actually caught waves from the Point through the Bowl.)

"...The Republican: Another inspirational sight was this older-type surfer who was catching these perfectly lined up waves from the bowl near the point. You could tell that this guy had lots of experience at Makaha, because he took off really deep, yet rode the waves all the way through. Only after paddling all the way out did I realize it was none other than former surfing world champion (1968) and former state representative (R) Fred Hemmings. I complimented him on his great book, The Soul of Surfing is Hawaiian, and asked for a future interview for my website. Man, he's still got it..."

Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: sponge] #1404217
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"one of the founders of pro surfing" - Big points to the minus side.


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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: O.T.] #1404218
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"one of the founders of pro surfing" - Big points to the minus side.




O.T.,
You sure like to throw a lot of stones. Besides hanging out on Maui and dropping a lot of L in the 70's what have you done with your life?

Seems to me that Mr. Hemming's has done a lot with his and he's done it his way.

Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: npsp] #1404219
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The "Friends of Fred" are out in force.
Care to compare resumes?


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Wish we had someone with Fred's credentials in North County San Diego. We have Brian Bilbray (trade you 5 Bilbrays for one Fred).

To the other's, the interesting thing about our justice system is the common 'tongue in cheek' referral to an indictment around the halls of justice is a prosecutor can usually 'get a ham sandwich indicted' before a grand jury. Defendant's have no representation, no attorney no opportunity to appear or submit a witness to the grand jury. It is a process by which the prosecutor meets in secret and tell the jury what he thinks has happened and what he thinks he can prove.

Maybe the lady did it, maybe she didn't. If it goes to trial, it will be interesting to see what her peers have to say about the charges and how well he lawyer represents her.

Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: KauaiDKer] #1404222
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I'm staying out of this. Other than to query, who in the hell looks down on a defenseless little baby and says, "I know! We'll name him Fred!"?????

I mean, really...

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Care to compare resumes?






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Fred Hemmings

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25th Senatorial District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 221
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-587-8388; fax 808-587-7240
E-mail senhemmings@Capitol.hawaii.gov
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Born
January 9, 1946
Honolulu, Hawaii

Business
Sports Enterprises, LLC, Owner-marketing/communications/consulting (1970 - present)

Political Experience
Senator (2000-2010), Republican Leader, Hawaii State Senate (2002-2010)

Representative (1984-1990), Republican Floor Leader, Hawaii State House of Representatives (1989-1990)

Oahu County Chairman, Republican Party of Honolulu (1975-1976)


Boards and Commissions
Board of Directors, State Legislative Leaders Foundation (2009)

Commissioner, Hawaii Commemorative Quarter Advisory Commission, appointed by Governor Linda Lingle (2006-2007)

Commissioner, Governor's Economic Momentum Commission, appointed by Governor Linda Lingle (2005)

Member, Hawaii 2050 Sustainability Task Force (2005-2006)

Commissioner, Governor's Millennium Commission, appointed by Governor Ben Cayetano (2000)

Director, Children's Advocacy (1991)

Trustee, Outrigger Duke Kahanamoku Foundation (1990-1991)

Board of Directors, Denver Broncos - National Football League (1984-Present)

Honorary Lifetime Director, United States Surfing Federation (1987-Present)

Lifetime Director, Association of Surfing Professionals (1985-Present)

Founder and Producer, Triple Crown Surfing (1983-1988)

Founder and President, International Professional Surfing (1976-1983)

Board of Directors, Hui Nalu O`Hawaii (1976-1979)

Board of Directors, Boys Club of Honolulu (1976-1979)

Board of Directors, Outrigger Canoe Club (1972-1973, 1975-1976)



Athletics
World Surfing ChampionRincon, Puerto Rico (1968)

Peruvian International Surfing ChampionLima, Peru (1964)

Makaha International Surfing Champion, Sr. Division (1964, 1966) Jr. Division (1962, 1963)

Championship team, Molokai to Oahu Canoe Race (1967, 1968, 1975 Masters 1984)

National Super Stars Competition, Veterans DivisionRotunda, Florida (1976)


Talent, Advertising and Promotional Credits
Co-Host, "Equal Time with Fred Hemmings", KHNR Radio 97.5 (2004 2006)

Radio Talk Show Host, KGU Radio (1991 1992)

Commentator, "Wide World of Sports", American Broadcasting Company (1970 - 1975, 1978)

Commentator, "Sports Spectacular", Columbia Broadcasting System (1976-1977)

Producer/host, "Hawaii Sports Scene", KITV (1972)

Consultant/test pilotfirst artificial wave machine, "Big Surf", Clairol Incorporated (1969)

National Television CommercialsUnited Airlines (1966), Kellogg's Cereal (1967), Eastman Kodak Europe (1970)


Awards and Honors
Lincoln Legacy Award, Republican Party Hawaii (2006)

Legislator of the Year, Hawaii Medical Association (2005)

Waterman of the Year, Surf Industry and Manufacturer Association (2002)

Listed Top 50 Athletes of Hawaii for 20th Century, Sports Illustrated (2000)

Hawaii Sports Hall of Fame (1999)

Punahou School Athletic Hall of Fame (1994)

International Surfing Hall of Fame (1991)

Top Ranking Legislator, Small Business Hawaii (1985 - 1990, 2001 2005)

Top Ten Businessmen's Award, Honolulu Junior Chamber of Commerce (1969)

Duke Kahanamoku Sportsman Award (1969)

Goodwill Tours with Duke Kahanamoku, State of Hawaii (1966-1967)

Athlete of the Year, Honolulu Quarterback Club (1964)


Journalism Credits
Author, "The Soul of Surfing is Hawaiian"Non-Fiction Best Seller, Hawaii (1997)

Contributing Political Editor, Honolulu Magazine (1991-1992)

Co-Author, "Illustrated Surfing Encyclopedia", Japan (1979)

Author, "Surfing, Hawaii's Gift to the World" (1977)

Weekly Columnist, Honolulu Star Bulletin (1966)



Member of the Republican party.

Member of the following committees:

CPN - Commerce and Consumer Protection
EDH - Education and Housing
ENE - Energy and Environment
HTH - Health
HMS - Human Services
BOC - Joint Senate-House Investigative Committee on the Bureau of Conveyances
PSM - Public Safety and Military Affairs
WTL - Water, Land, Agriculture, and Hawaiian Affairs
WAM - Ways and Means


Home Search Bill Status & Documents Hawaii Revised Statutes Legislative Information House Senate Special Studies Archives Links Feedback Site Map We make every effort to comply to ADA standards, and Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act. If you have any problems
with any of these pages, please contact webmaster@Capitol.hawaii.gov with the page address and problems encountered.




- Look, First off, I know what Hemmings has done in his life and stated my views on that in my posts above. How someone can try to belittle me because of what I think about Straight Ahead Fred is ridiculous. That's not the point. I would be the last person to compare "resumes" with a straight arrow politician. They hand out honorary this and Chairman that to each other daily. The resume remark PPK quotes is directed toward the poster before (npsp) who I do not know nor does he know me.
Secondly, what does the poster above (npsp) know about me other than some rants on a BB?
Fred may be some kind of cultural icon (high profile "surfer made good") to residents of Hawaii and readers of old surfing magazines and right wingers but he's not to me. And I'm basing MY opinion on face to face encounters and observations.
That's the last I'm saying about this. Continue your Friends of Fred love fest.


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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: O.T.] #1404224
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The "Friends of Fred" are out in force.
Care to compare resumes?






Hawaii State Legislature
SenateSome of the following items are in .PDF format. In order to view these properly, you need to have the Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your PC. For instructions on downloading and installing the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, please visit Adobe's download page.
Fred Hemmings

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25th Senatorial District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 221
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-587-8388; fax 808-587-7240
E-mail senhemmings@Capitol.hawaii.gov
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Born
January 9, 1946
Honolulu, Hawaii

Business
Sports Enterprises, LLC, Owner-marketing/communications/consulting (1970 - present)

Political Experience
Senator (2000-2010), Republican Leader, Hawaii State Senate (2002-2010)

Representative (1984-1990), Republican Floor Leader, Hawaii State House of Representatives (1989-1990)

Oahu County Chairman, Republican Party of Honolulu (1975-1976)


Boards and Commissions
Board of Directors, State Legislative Leaders Foundation (2009)

Commissioner, Hawaii Commemorative Quarter Advisory Commission, appointed by Governor Linda Lingle (2006-2007)

Commissioner, Governor's Economic Momentum Commission, appointed by Governor Linda Lingle (2005)

Member, Hawaii 2050 Sustainability Task Force (2005-2006)

Commissioner, Governor's Millennium Commission, appointed by Governor Ben Cayetano (2000)

Director, Children's Advocacy (1991)

Trustee, Outrigger Duke Kahanamoku Foundation (1990-1991)

Board of Directors, Denver Broncos - National Football League (1984-Present)

Honorary Lifetime Director, United States Surfing Federation (1987-Present)

Lifetime Director, Association of Surfing Professionals (1985-Present)

Founder and Producer, Triple Crown Surfing (1983-1988)

Founder and President, International Professional Surfing (1976-1983)

Board of Directors, Hui Nalu O`Hawaii (1976-1979)

Board of Directors, Boys Club of Honolulu (1976-1979)

Board of Directors, Outrigger Canoe Club (1972-1973, 1975-1976)



Athletics
World Surfing ChampionRincon, Puerto Rico (1968)

Peruvian International Surfing ChampionLima, Peru (1964)

Makaha International Surfing Champion, Sr. Division (1964, 1966) Jr. Division (1962, 1963)

Championship team, Molokai to Oahu Canoe Race (1967, 1968, 1975 Masters 1984)

National Super Stars Competition, Veterans DivisionRotunda, Florida (1976)


Talent, Advertising and Promotional Credits
Co-Host, "Equal Time with Fred Hemmings", KHNR Radio 97.5 (2004 2006)

Radio Talk Show Host, KGU Radio (1991 1992)

Commentator, "Wide World of Sports", American Broadcasting Company (1970 - 1975, 1978)

Commentator, "Sports Spectacular", Columbia Broadcasting System (1976-1977)

Producer/host, "Hawaii Sports Scene", KITV (1972)

Consultant/test pilotfirst artificial wave machine, "Big Surf", Clairol Incorporated (1969)

National Television CommercialsUnited Airlines (1966), Kellogg's Cereal (1967), Eastman Kodak Europe (1970)


Awards and Honors
Lincoln Legacy Award, Republican Party Hawaii (2006)

Legislator of the Year, Hawaii Medical Association (2005)

Waterman of the Year, Surf Industry and Manufacturer Association (2002)

Listed Top 50 Athletes of Hawaii for 20th Century, Sports Illustrated (2000)

Hawaii Sports Hall of Fame (1999)

Punahou School Athletic Hall of Fame (1994)

International Surfing Hall of Fame (1991)

Top Ranking Legislator, Small Business Hawaii (1985 - 1990, 2001 2005)

Top Ten Businessmen's Award, Honolulu Junior Chamber of Commerce (1969)

Duke Kahanamoku Sportsman Award (1969)

Goodwill Tours with Duke Kahanamoku, State of Hawaii (1966-1967)

Athlete of the Year, Honolulu Quarterback Club (1964)


Journalism Credits
Author, "The Soul of Surfing is Hawaiian"Non-Fiction Best Seller, Hawaii (1997)

Contributing Political Editor, Honolulu Magazine (1991-1992)

Co-Author, "Illustrated Surfing Encyclopedia", Japan (1979)

Author, "Surfing, Hawaii's Gift to the World" (1977)

Weekly Columnist, Honolulu Star Bulletin (1966)



Member of the Republican party.

Member of the following committees:

CPN - Commerce and Consumer Protection
EDH - Education and Housing
ENE - Energy and Environment
HTH - Health
HMS - Human Services
BOC - Joint Senate-House Investigative Committee on the Bureau of Conveyances
PSM - Public Safety and Military Affairs
WTL - Water, Land, Agriculture, and Hawaiian Affairs
WAM - Ways and Means


Home Search Bill Status & Documents Hawaii Revised Statutes Legislative Information House Senate Special Studies Archives Links Feedback Site Map We make every effort to comply to ADA standards, and Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act. If you have any problems
with any of these pages, please contact webmaster@Capitol.hawaii.gov with the page address and problems encountered.




- Look, First off, I know what Hemmings has done in his life and stated my views on that in my posts above. How someone can try to belittle me because of what I think about Straight Ahead Fred is ridiculous. That's not the point. I would be the last person to compare "resumes" with a straight arrow politician. They hand out honorary this and Chairman that to each other daily. The resume remark PPK quotes is directed toward the poster before (npsp) who I do not know nor does he know me.
Secondly, what does the poster above (npsp) know about me other than some rants on a BB?
Fred may be some kind of cultural icon (high profile "surfer made good") to residents of Hawaii and readers of old surfing magazines and right wingers but he's not to me. And I'm basing MY opinion on face to face encounters and observations.
That's the last I'm saying about this. Continue your Friends of Fred love fest.




REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE ARE ALIVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO SHOOT THEM'
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You can surf and still be a Goon. Look at SBsarge. Karl Rove and GW walk their own paths.


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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: O.T.] #1404226
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- Look, First off, I know what Hemmings has done in his life and stated my views on that in my posts above. How someone can try to belittle me POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
because of what I think about Straight Ahead Fred is ridiculous. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's not the point. I would be the last person to compare "resumes" with a straight arrow politician. They hand out honorary this and Chairman that to each other daily. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

The resume remark PPK quotes is directed toward the poster before (npsp) who I do not know nor does he know me. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Secondly, what does the poster above (npsp) know about me other than some rants on a BB? POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

Fred may be some kind of cultural icon (high profile "surfer made good") to residents of Hawaii and readers of old surfing magazines and right wingers POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
but he's not to me. And I'm basing MY opinion on face to face encounters and observations. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's the last I'm saying about this. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Continue your Friends of Fred love fest.




People belittle you because you are an old, used up, hateful piece of sh1t.
So Hemmings is a Republican, that makes him the devil? F_ck you, you bitter never was chicken head.

Humorless old b1tch. NO ONE cares about who you hate because of their political affiliation.
I'm sure Fred Hemmings has done a lot more positive things in his life than you have.

STOP POSTING NOW! ASK ANYONE ON THE BB HOW.

Next time you feel the need to post one of your insipid "rants" go do it on Surfline.


POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!





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"No time for the old in-out, love, I've just come to read the meter..."
Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: srfdrnk66] #1404227
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- Look, First off, I know what Hemmings has done in his life and stated my views on that in my posts above. How someone can try to belittle me POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
because of what I think about Straight Ahead Fred is ridiculous. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's not the point. I would be the last person to compare "resumes" with a straight arrow politician. They hand out honorary this and Chairman that to each other daily. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

The resume remark PPK quotes is directed toward the poster before (npsp) who I do not know nor does he know me. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Secondly, what does the poster above (npsp) know about me other than some rants on a BB? POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

Fred may be some kind of cultural icon (high profile "surfer made good") to residents of Hawaii and readers of old surfing magazines and right wingers POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
but he's not to me. And I'm basing MY opinion on face to face encounters and observations. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's the last I'm saying about this. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Continue your Friends of Fred love fest.




People belittle you because you are an old, used up, hateful piece of sh1t.
So Hemmings is a Republican, that makes him the devil? F_ck you, you bitter never was chicken head.

Humorless old b1tch. NO ONE cares about who you hate because of their political affiliation.
I'm sure Fred Hemmings has done a lot more positive things in his life than you have.

STOP POSTING NOW! ASK ANYONE ON THE BB HOW.

Next time you feel the need to post one of your insipid "rants" go do it on Surfline.


POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!





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Wow!

I was just kind of saying don't throw stones unless you are ready to have some thrown back at you.

O.T. I don't know you and you don't know me. All I know about you is from what you have posted here on the erbb and that is the person you want us to believe you are.

I had the opportunity to meet Deadahead Fred several years ago and he was a very engaging and funny guy.
Like the guy above stated. North SD County could use more Deadahead Freds than the Bilbrays we are saddled with.

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- Look, First off, I know what Hemmings has done in his life and stated my views on that in my posts above. How someone can try to belittle me POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
because of what I think about Straight Ahead Fred is ridiculous. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's not the point. I would be the last person to compare "resumes" with a straight arrow politician. They hand out honorary this and Chairman that to each other daily. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

The resume remark PPK quotes is directed toward the poster before (npsp) who I do not know nor does he know me. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Secondly, what does the poster above (npsp) know about me other than some rants on a BB? POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!

Fred may be some kind of cultural icon (high profile "surfer made good") to residents of Hawaii and readers of old surfing magazines and right wingers POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
but he's not to me. And I'm basing MY opinion on face to face encounters and observations. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
That's the last I'm saying about this. POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!
Continue your Friends of Fred love fest.




People belittle you because you are an old, used up, hateful piece of sh1t.
So Hemmings is a Republican, that makes him the devil? F_ck you, you bitter never was chicken head.

Humorless old b1tch. NO ONE cares about who you hate because of their political affiliation.
I'm sure Fred Hemmings has done a lot more positive things in his life than you have.

STOP POSTING NOW! ASK ANYONE ON THE BB HOW.

Next time you feel the need to post one of your insipid "rants" go do it on Surfline.


POOR LITTLE CRYBABY!








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REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE ARE ALIVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO SHOOT THEM'
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OT,
You are still out of line. Guess you'll never get it.
This thread is interesting. I don't know Fred. But I'll defend him. Do know Brian, I'll defend him. Don't agree with either most of the time. Worked with Brian in IB under Dempsey late sixties, early 70's. Lifeguarding. Give people a break. We all grow older, hopefully, sometimes, wiser.
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Re: State Senator Fred Hemming's wife indicted for theft [Re: GWS] #1404230
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I'm staying out of this. Other than to query, who in the hell looks down on a defenseless little baby and says, "I know! We'll name him Fred!"?????

I mean, really...





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