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#2885673 - 12/10/18 06:10 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
Aruka Offline
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I had a Cyber like 5 years ago. Hooded 5/4. I had similar issues. It was zipperless and had like 17 layers of velcro to mess with to get into and out of. It was warm and stretchy enough but the pit rash was brutal.

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#2885923 - 12/11/18 01:46 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: Aruka]
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Registered: 09/11/17
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Loc: San Diego, CA
Wetsuits in 2018 should NOT be giving you a rash. This aint the 80's when they all needed rash guards. That is an instant dealbreaker for me.

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#2885962 - 12/11/18 02:13 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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I didn't notice/pay attention when buying, but I have what I believe are last year's Xcel infiniti pro comps, 2.0 and 3/2. Cheap on evo and I have an all 3mm with some life, so went with that and probably get a new 3/2 with vulcanized chest/back next winter.

The key thing on these Xcels doesn't have a gasket pocket pouch. Just the string. The neck piece is fixed on the right side, not both sides free like it used to be a few years ago, so I tuck it off to the right, but I've been making sure the loop cinches tight and stays cinched around the key ring every time. I can see that string wearing out in two years and the suits basically being unusable because of that.

I've only worn the 2mm, not sure if it's just brand new plus last year's suit or a shade bricky. The wrist and ankle sealing is good; wore it air/water 61 with some wind and no sun, seemed like the lower end of the range. Be interested to pepsi challenge that one with the 3/2 comp.


Edited by Sharkbiscuit (12/11/18 02:14 PM)
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#2886068 - 12/11/18 04:33 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: Oeste858]
delmartian Offline
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Registered: 05/04/17
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Originally Posted By: Oeste858
Wetsuits in 2018 should NOT be giving you a rash. This aint the 80's when they all needed rash guards. That is an instant dealbreaker for me.


I've always assumed Millennials are probably puzzled by the term "rash guard" and wonder why a shirt designed to be worn in the water in tropical places to avoid sun burn was given such a strange name.

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#2886509 - 12/12/18 03:31 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Second day in my 4/3 Vissla North Seas. I've only been wearing Visslas the past couple of years due to a hook up. Water was 59 yesterday, 61 today. I would have been fine in my Vissla 7 Seas 3/2 both days, but the good waves looked fairly inconsistent and I knew I'd be sitting a while. The North Seas wasn't as warm as my Xcel TDC 4/3 from three seasons ago and just as stiff. Vissla put a horizontal seam right in between the shoulder blades which you can definitely feel while paddling. The fuzzy liner dries out quick enough, but the neoprene was still pretty damp after 22 hours. The suit was easy to get on and not too challenging to get off. The neck is a little tight, but not bothersome. I had no noticeable flushing and it fit true to what I expect for a MT (I'm 6' 174 lbs). It's fine for what I paid ($125), but I expected to be overheating and I was surprisingly comfortable. If the water gets down to historic lows (53-55) I would expect to get chilly after 3-4 hours if I wasn't paddling a lot. I haven't worn booties in 20+ years, which lessens my warmth factor and is why I prefer to have 3mm on the legs to (theoretically) warm the blood going to my feet.


Edited by ChaseTMP (12/12/18 03:33 PM)

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#2888278 - 12/17/18 10:42 AM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Registered: 07/27/14
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Loc: around san diego
Wheres the latest hookup for a good 4/3?

My 2yr old hurly phantom is starting to balloon and fill up and flush on the good wipeouts. Also takes ridiculously long to dry. Not bad for a sub-$200 clearance wetsuit but leaves a lot to be desired when its sub-50s at dawn.

Can wait to pull the trigger on after Christmas sales but need help on what to shop for. May have to go back to ONeil. My 5/4 heat is going on strong.

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#2892541 - 12/31/18 11:16 AM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Registered: 04/26/17
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Anybody have some feedback on the O'neill 4/3 mutant? My xcel of 3 (4??) years is no longer keeping me comfortable in cold water and I'm tired of using a separate hood (i used the xcel one with the attached vest which gave me pit rash like crazy and now I'm using an xcel with a fullshirt sewn to the hood, which is nice. I think I'm finally going to get a hooded fullsuit but I'm curious how people like the mutant with the removable hood and all that.

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#2892559 - 12/31/18 11:40 AM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: TECHNOBUTT]
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Originally Posted By: TECHNOBUTT
Anybody have some feedback on the O'neill 4/3 mutant? My xcel of 3 (4??) years is no longer keeping me comfortable in cold water and I'm tired of using a separate hood (i used the xcel one with the attached vest which gave me pit rash like crazy and now I'm using an xcel with a fullshirt sewn to the hood, which is nice. I think I'm finally going to get a hooded fullsuit but I'm curious how people like the mutant with the removable hood and all that.


Do it! Great suit. Especially for NC. I've posted about it prior in this thread.
Check out the 4.5/3.5 Legend version they just released. It's all technobutt.

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#2892595 - 12/31/18 12:45 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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The Mutant was a great suit to me. Not the softest, sexiest suit on the market but it's a great compromise between warmth, stretch, and durability.

The removable hood is awesome as well. Very comfortable.
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#2893625 - 01/03/19 05:36 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Registered: 04/25/07
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Billabong carbon ultra 54 :
Pros : super light , and stretchy , stay really dry that purple fuzzy lining dries super fast . Sleeves are long stay in place when yard saled . Dries faster than my other suits .
Major con : suit rides up in legs or legs too short . Got it as a gift . Constant adjustment of legs no bueno in northeast . Not sure if medium Tall would work as I think its be too tight in the chest .
I guess they think everyone is Occy with little stump Barney Rubble legs . Im 511.x 170-175
32 inseam . Idk man weird way to ruin an otherwise butchen suit .

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#2893638 - 01/03/19 05:50 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Registered: 02/25/18
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Have same suit, love it. Went with a L, 5'9' 165 legs might be a tiny bit long.

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#2893663 - 01/03/19 07:22 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Going to glue those rubber grippers I just peeled off an old suit onto the leg cuffs see if that helps

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#2896558 - 01/10/19 05:43 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
Marcel Offline
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Registered: 02/02/15
Posts: 13
Loc: Euroland
Any word on the Matuse Scipio 2 mm?

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#2898351 - 01/14/19 11:06 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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regarding Vissla suits...

I have the 7 seas and North Seas... both are solid for the price point.

Looking at a High Seas suit... any comments on this suit?

Thanks.

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#2898355 - 01/14/19 11:30 PM Re: The Great Unbiased Wetsuit Review Thread [Re: silentbutdeadly]
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Registered: 04/09/16
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My new Xcel Comp X 4/3 has been really good this winter. Big improvement over the Comp I had a couple years ago.

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