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Differences in Board Volume #2984977
07/21/19 01:38 AM
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Can you tell the difference? I've only had one board with Volume measured since the majority of my quiver was acquired before it was a thing.

My current board is 37L. I am 215 lbs. I was on craigslist and saw a 34L shortboard. My brother thinks it will suck to paddle and surf. I'm not so sure. The specs on it are similar to all my other short boards I've owned. I'm thinking about buying it but figured I'd poll the erbb before I pull the trigger.

Can you really feel the difference in 3 liters? I'm sure I could tell the difference if the board was significantly smaller in specs. But if the board is similar in dimensions can anyone actually feel the difference?

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Re: Differences in Board Volume [Re: Muscles] #2984986
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I can tell the difference in 1/2L in the same board. The difference is subtle but it's there.

Drop a 1L from my current daily driver and I'll be sinking and struggling

You will absolutely feel the difference in 3L.

I'm talking HPSBs btw.


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Re: Differences in Board Volume [Re: Muscles] #2985005
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I'm not sure, as I've never had subtly different dims of the same board/model.

And comparing between different makers and boards is a mug's game: My 32L Pyzalien feels more buoyant than my 34L Ghost. My 32L Chilli Faded feels more buoyant than my 33L Byrning Spears.

Go figure :-/

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Go to a pool and jump in cannon ball style (butt first).

Then tape an empty two liter soda bottle to your crack and cannonball again.

Did you feel a difference?


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Originally Posted by Maz
I'm not sure, as I've never had subtly different dims of the same board/model.

And comparing between different makers and boards is a mug's game: My 32L Pyzalien feels more buoyant than my 34L Ghost. My 32L Chilli Faded feels more buoyant than my 33L Byrning Spears.

Go figure :-/


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Depends how close you are to neutral buoyancy.

Further you go away from almost sinking the less likely you are to notice the change.

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the difficulty with this question is that it is never an all other things equal comparison. I have had two stock standard Chilli Mini Birds with just 1L volume difference. The difference between the two was quite noticeable, but some of that would have came from a 2" difference in length, slightly wider width. They didn't paddle much different though, but both boards placed me with a comfortable body weight to volume ratio (see sd_101's comment above).

As I said quite noticeable difference and I ended up selling one of them. The determinant was rail volume. The bigger one had chunkier rails which I could tell just from grabbing with my hands. Both boards worked well, but I couldn't quite get that gouging ripping feeling I was after from being able to bury the rail sufficiently in cutbacks and pumping on the bigger board. So I sold the bigger one.

Another comparison - I have had two stock standard HPSBs Diverse Garden Varieties (Gold Coast make/model). Again 2 inches difference. Still got one, sold the other. Again the determinant was rails - the smaller one had rails scaled down that would sink too easily and I was prone to accidentally catching a rail in cutbacks making for a difficult to use board. I still have the bigger one - rails are just right.

You could go and take a look at the board and feel up the rails. If as you say the board is similar dimensions, but 3L less than what you normally ride, then chances are rails are thinner - if they feel appreciably thinner in your hands then its likely the board will be difficult to use in the manner I just described.

If however the rails are just right then there must be some loss of thickness/flatter deck - does it feel like it would snap on you or flex too much. If not then it comes down to how close to the board being completely under water when paddling is your current board. If you are already on the threshold then 3L could just put you in that hard to paddle zone - even though 3L only supports about 3KG

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you'll feel the difference with 3 liters plus or minus but more important is how well (or not) the foam makes its way to the rails and what sort of rocker you're looking at. you can have "your numbers" but if it's too bladed into the rails with too much rocker it'll surf like a board with too little volume regardless of what the volume measurement is claimed.

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At 215 lbs , Seek well designed higher volume boards .

Way more fun .

Fug all this Modern Day Whinny volume crap . :-)

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Originally Posted by Greg Griffin
At 215 lbs , Seek well designed higher volume boards .

Way more fun .

Fug all this Modern Day Whinny volume crap . :-)


Yep. I can have a lot more fun on an over volumed board than one that is too small. Add a crowd to the mix on a board too small where you have to paddle and jockey around for position and its even more miserable.

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Volume measurements probably not accurate.

I went up to 43+ at 215-220lbs and loving it

Previous board was closer to 40 and just felt myself working too hard, so yeah volume makes a difference

I completely submerge my 43l board when paddling

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Thanks for all the responses. I've decided to pass on the board. It is probably too small. I just don't understand the volume measurement that well. I'll keep looking on craigslist. Problem is this board will be my good wave shortboard so I am hesitant to order an expensive custom that won't be ridden that often. I'd prefer to find something on craigslist.

I did find this board. I might go check it out.

https://www.usedsurfboardshawaii.com/product/6ft-3in-raynor-squash-tail-ref-26323/

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My stubby bastrd has more nose rocker and paddles better than a similar board with LESS nose rocker!! WTF??
Same volumes...🤷🏻‍♂️


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Originally Posted by paunch23
My stubby bastrd has more nose rocker and paddles better than a similar board with LESS nose rocker!! WTF??
Same volumes...🤷🏻‍♂️


Does it have low entry rocker with a late flip? Boards can paddle very nicely with that setup.

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