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Truth #2984966
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I AM AGAINST IDENTITY POLITICS, BY WHICH I MEAN I AM IN FAVOR OF WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS
by CHAS GILLESPIE

I believe everyone deserves a fair shot in life once people who already have a bunch of advantages are given a few extra fair shots in life if they ever make a mistake. I believe in kindness, decency, and treating your neighbors with respect unless they might cause property values to go down. I believe that politicians should be accountable to certain kinds of people. I believe that, when it comes down to it, we all have similar hopes, fears, and dreams, and it is our job to support each other’s dreams unless it makes us uncomfortable or requires courage.

Which is why, when I hear people talking about identity politics, I — quite rationally — can’t help but get upset and irrationally angry. I mean, enough is enough from a certain perspective. The LGBTQ constituency, the African-American constituency, immigrants, women, Native Americans — all these groups are facing difficulties, and for some reason they think politicians should speak to those difficulties. But I know better. I know that’s a trap. The only way to win elections is to sort of speak to those difficulties but mostly don’t.

In other words, if the Dems want to win in 2020, they need to focus on kitchen-table issues. Very specific kitchen tables, in very specific neighborhoods. Let me explain. Having access to clean drinking water: is this a “kitchen-table issue” in certain Native Americans reservations and mostly African-American neighborhoods? You bet. But is it a “kitchen-table issue”? No. Discrimination in jobs or housing based on the gender of your partner: is this a “kitchen-table issue” for people in the LGBTQ community? Obviously yes. But is it a “kitchen-table issue”? No. The rise of hate crimes and Islamophobia: is this a “kitchen-table issue” for Muslims and other groups that have to live in fear? Clearly yes. But is it a “kitchen-table issue”? That’s a solid no.

I can see you’re not quite getting it, so let me elaborate. The unemployment rate, which doesn’t even measure unemployment: is this a “kitchen-table issue”? Of course. Median income: is this a “kitchen-table issue”? Yes, but — and this is a big but — not if you’re talking about the income of women of color. Having a habitable planet a hundred years from now: is this a “kitchen-table issue”? Hmmm, that’s a tough one, but it’s a kitchen-table issue only for people who plan to spend their lives on Earth.

Or, here’s a simpler test: does the issue affect Puerto Rico? Then it’s not a kitchen-table issue. But if the issue affects Martha’s Vineyard, then it is.

Redlining, discrimination in housing loans, predatory lending practices, state violence, unequal infrastructure spending: these are just a few of the things that don’t affect me and therefore don’t affect anybody.


Avoid lightning rod issues. Colin Kaepernick is a no. Trans people accessing the right bathroom is a no. Instead, focus on issues that white people from all backgrounds can relate to.

I understand tactics. So before you criticize me, let me say that I am a student of the Civil Rights Movement, which is why I know that the number one way to get anything done in Washington is through civility. Don’t break unjust laws, and trust that white moderates will eventually do the right thing at some distant point. But don’t forget what’s most important. To paraphrase W.E.B. Du Bois, “The problem of the 21st century is the problem of the class line.”

You might not like this, but it’s true: If Dems want to win, they also need to stop being so politically correct and elitist. Remember how Republicans kept saying they wanted their politicians to be more politically incorrect, and then when Hillary Clinton said something that was politically incorrect — that many of Trump’s followers were “deplorable,” which the past three years have proven to be empirically true — Republicans suddenly didn’t like political incorrectness and called her cruel? See, being politically incorrect is good. It gets people on your side so long as they aren’t predisposed to dislike you through years of social and political conditioning linking your gender, beliefs, and background to moral degeneracy despite all the evidence to the contrary.

When AOC or Ilhan Omar says something that’s politically incorrect, they are un-American traitors. When a Republican says something politically incorrect, they are a hero of the common man. Dems: keep up!


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And as for elitism, I’ve had just about enough of Democrats drawing attention to the fact that they know things. Don’t focus on plans and facts and preparation so much. Whatever happened to just grabbing a machete and blazing a trail to God-knows-where and accidentally stepping on some eggs and killing small animals? That’s what Teddy Roosevelt would have done.

Dems, listen up. If you want my vote, you need to drop all this identity politics stuff and focus on white identity politics. That means talk about the white part of the economy. That means talk about white people’s kitchen tables. That means develop a sane and humane immigration policy but don’t talk about why people are fleeing Central America. Be decent. Let me think that I could grab a beer with you and if I said some sexist stuff you wouldn’t call me out on it. Frame absolutely everything as an economic rather than a moral issue — from war to the environment to healthcare — and explain how your administration will benefit my white, small-town cousins who in no way, shape, or form would ever vote for you.

I also want to see your personality, but only if I can relate to it culturally. Thank you.


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13 paragraphs describing how White "progressive" totalitarians can gain access to power without actually appearing to be totalitarians.

My Aryan brain calls this Fraud.

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I thought this was going to be about nias.


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I believe in kindness, decency, and treating your neighbors with respect


That sentence alone contains all the best trigger words for alt-right kooks.

Especially decency.

They hate decency.

Decency is a low-T soiboi weakness.

It's only very low IQ people who like decency.

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The lefts version of identity politics doesn’t win elections. The EC makes sure of that, like it or not. Especially when it trends towards the divisive as opposed to being inclusive. There is nothing to be gained from checking white peoples privilege at every turn from a campaign strategy perspective.

Bernie is the only hope for democrats to win in 2020. Bernie was able to make the message inclusive and about a shared vision that everyone could relate to, regardless of which grievance groups they did or did not identify with.

Queuing “Trump played the identity politics card too!” In 3, 2, 1 . . . roflmao And let me be clear- he absolutely did. But from a campaign strategy perspective, it made sense toilet


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Originally Posted by Autoprax

I thought this was going to be about nias.


roflmao

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Originally Posted by FecalFace
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I believe in kindness, decency, and treating your neighbors with respect


That sentence alone contains all the best trigger words for alt-right kooks.

Especially decency.

They hate decency.

Decency is a low-T soiboi weakness.

It's only very low IQ people who like decency.



Coming from the mr. decency himself....


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Re: Truth [Re: heelnipstr] #2985081
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I really can't understand the republican trope of hating identity politics when that's the only thing keeping Trumby's base so solid right now.


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Originally Posted by hal9000
I really can't understand the republican trope of hating identity politics when that's the only thing keeping Trumby's base so solid right now.


I bet if you tried really hard you could understand it

What’s your best explanation without accusations of racism?

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^ Many people are overwhelmed by their feelings. Rational logical thought takes a back seat.
Metacognition is harder than math.


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So my question who is the writer's audience and what is his purpose?


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Originally Posted by Autoprax

So my question who is the writer's audience and what is his purpose?


good satire targets everyone and good writing has no practicality.


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