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Re: Remodel - advice [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2975629
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My dad did both bathrooms recently

He has the skills and the tools

That does not mean it wasn't a humongous pain in the ass + unfinished work always hanging over his head.

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Originally Posted by FecalFace
If you are even moderately handy you can do a lot of work yourself.

Hiring a contractor to do everything is pretty extravagant in my book.

Hire pros for plumbing/electrical, the rest is just work.

Yea, sure. Anybody can do a tight drywall topping pass (like you even know what that means) float a shower wall (do you know what that means either?) Set a cabinet true, know which paint and primer is best for that cabinet, cut and install a counter surface on an undermount sink, an on and on.

How loud would you scream if I said, "Anybody with a cell phone and Photoshop is a professional photographer."?


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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Originally Posted by FecalFace
If you are even moderately handy you can do a lot of work yourself.

Hiring a contractor to do everything is pretty extravagant in my book.

Hire pros for plumbing/electrical, the rest is just work.

Yea, sure. Anybody can do a tight drywall topping pass (like you even know what that means) float a shower wall (do you know what that means either?) Set a cabinet true, know which paint and primer is best for that cabinet, cut and install a counter surface on an undermount sink, an on and on.

How loud would you scream if I said, "Anybody with a cell phone and Photoshop is a professional photographer."?

This^^^

Re: Remodel - advice [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2975665
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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Condo type bathroom is $20,000.


Example of a "condo type bathroom"?

I would think this means a 1 piece shower stall, a toilet, and a vanity w/ sink in a 48 square foot rectangle?



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Fecal thinks construction is easy to do because Mexicans can do it. Fecal hates Mexicans.


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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted by everysurfr
Condo type bathroom is $20,000.


Example of a "condo type bathroom"?

I would think this means a 1 piece shower stall, a toilet, and a vanity w/ sink in a 48 square foot rectangle?



Ask your Dad. He seems to have it covered.


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Originally Posted by everysurfr
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Condo type bathroom is $20,000.


Example of a "condo type bathroom"?

I would think this means a 1 piece shower stall, a toilet, and a vanity w/ sink in a 48 square foot rectangle?



Ask your Dad. He seems to have it covered.


My dad lives outside the US and lives in a single family home.

Why would he know about pricing for condo bathrooms in the United States?

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we just had both upstairs bathrooms did. cash price for both was $25,000, and we bought the tile/vanities etc ourselves. So figure it was close to $35+K all in. Like "medium high end"...restoration hardware vanities and lighting, custom frame-less glass showers, lots of river stone etc.

GC was very highly reviewed on angies list. Some little bumps along the way (some their fault, some ours, but everything rectified) but overall, we're happy. took about a month longer than he said it would, but again, some of those delays were our "fault" (not ordering/choosing stuff in a timely manner, changing certain plans mid stream etc) and some were just the normal course of events.

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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
How is payment best arranged? Is there any advantage to me paying cash?


Per CSLB, payments can be 10% down or $1000, whichever is less. If greater than those amounts, contractor must be be able to prove out of pocket expenses already incurred for the project.

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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Sadly that's going to be tight. Condo type bathroom is $20,000. Cheap apartment/ dorm room is less. Smallish Kitchen is $30,000 starting, to $40,000 mid to higher.

Things can go lower, but you don't want the finish peeling off your new faucet in 6 months or the drawer boxes breaking in a year.

Promise you won't use home depot or Ikea cabinets.


I will 2nd everything everysurfr just said.

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Originally Posted by casa_mugrienta
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How is payment best arranged? Is there any advantage to me paying cash?

The benefit to paying cash is you attract dishonest contractors that dont pay their taxes and insurance. Do with that bit of info ehat you will.


What is the best way to pay if you already have the money?

Im asking because people keep telling me to take out a home equity line of credit. Why would I need to incur debt?


I would advise against spending money on interest payments if you can.

People often advise taking a loan at a fixed (low) rate and put your principle to work elsewhere where the return is (maybe) higher. This can make great financial sense, but you know investing is not a guarantee rate of return, while a loan has a guarantee cost.

Just know there is a reason why people who can buy homes for cash do so rather than take on a 15/20/30 yr loan.

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Originally Posted by everysurfr
Sadly that's going to be tight. Condo type bathroom is $20,000. Cheap apartment/ dorm room is less. Smallish Kitchen is $30,000 starting, to $40,000 mid to higher.

Things can go lower, but you don't want the finish peeling off your new faucet in 6 months or the drawer boxes breaking in a year.

Promise you won't use home depot or Ikea cabinets.


950 square foot condo. $20K would be an overkill just for about over 100 square feet of bathroom. new toilet $200. shower fixtures $300. new vanity $2000. new shower door $1000. tile? plain white subway tile with black grout about $500 in materials. demo, labor & new shower pan? i'm estimating total of $6K to $7K. I'm already dealing with finishes peeling from the ultra cheap stuff the prior owner used and the wrong pain on doors & cabinets. he couldn't have spent $10K in total for the whole place.

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evrysrfr quoting high end prices for high end clients quality work is still done much less. not tearig down the work but there is a place for the 20K tag and its not in most homes and condominiums in Ca.

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Originally Posted by stu dog
Originally Posted by everysurfr
Sadly that's going to be tight. Condo type bathroom is $20,000. Cheap apartment/ dorm room is less. Smallish Kitchen is $30,000 starting, to $40,000 mid to higher.

Things can go lower, but you don't want the finish peeling off your new faucet in 6 months or the drawer boxes breaking in a year.

Promise you won't use home depot or Ikea cabinets.


950 square feet condo. $20K would be an overkill just for about over 100 square feet of bathroom. new toilet $200. shower fixtures $300. new vanity $2000. new shower door $1000. tile? plain white subway tile with black grout about $500 in materials. demo, labor & new shower pan? i'm estimating total of $6K to $7K


6-7K for 50ft / 8-12K done right more likely for your 100 ft

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Originally Posted by CCKeith
evrysrfr quoting high end prices for high end clients quality work is still done much less. not tearig down the work but there is a place for the 20K tag and its not in most homes and condominiums in Ca.

He's lives in Santa Barbara and is a high end contractor. He's more out of touch than he thinks he is


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