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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: manbearpig] #2975318
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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: BillyOcean] #2975319
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean
It’s really simple

If you want to prevent anyone from entering

Or if you question why most don’t ever show up for asylum hearings once they make it in

Or if you ask why this is fair to other immigrants who try to come legally

Or if you ask how this is in the interest of the vast majority of American citizens

Or if you don’t want to provide free healthcare and college to whoever manages to sneak in

You’re a racist

Got it?


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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975322
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There is no dem running for President who would dare to publicly ask any of those questions

Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975365
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Still ok with this?



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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975377
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I’m gonna need Andy Ngo’s take on it


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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: BillyOcean] #2975429
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean


Or if you question why most don’t ever show up for asylum hearings once they make it in




Each side is saying the exact opposite so which is it?

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...t-asylum-seekers-skipped-their-hearings/

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Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Kevin McAleenan testified Tuesday that 90 percent of asylum-seekers tracked under a recently instituted program skipped the hearings in which their cases were to be adjudicated.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ants-show-up-immigration-court-hearings/

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“As of April 2019, out of approximately 7,700 total removal orders for rocket docket cases, over 6,700 were in absentia,” the DHS official told us. That’s 87 percent.

When Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) challenged these numbers at the June 11 hearing, McAleenan said, “I gave you the recent numbers of over 7,000 families that we put through a process to try to get court results more quickly: 90 percent of them did not show up for their hearings.”

McAleenan didn’t claim that this no-show rate of 90 percent applies broadly to all migrants. He was talking strictly about the rocket docket.

These figures come from the Justice Department, which reports court appearance rates on the basis of initial case completions, as we’ve noted. That measure will not count migrants who show up for court but whose hearings are postponed or whose cases remain pending.


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Researchers at the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University in a June 18 report found that 81 percent of migrant families attended all their court hearings, measuring from September through May.

“Thus, court records directly contradict the widely quoted claim that ’90 Percent of Recent Asylum Seekers Skipped Their Hearings,’” the report says, linking to an article about McAleenan’s testimony on June 11.

How is it possible that 81 percent of families attend all their hearings, when the Justice Department says the attendance rates are much lower? (And not just the Justice Department — an older data set from TRAC covering 2014 to 2018 shows that 49 percent of families attended their hearings.)

Susan B. Long, the co-director of TRAC and a managerial statistics professor at Syracuse University, said the difference is in counting all ongoing cases instead of only completed cases. “We didn’t remove anything,” she said. “It’s exactly how the data is recorded.”

Of 46,743 families, 85.5 percent attended their initial hearing and 81 percent attended all their hearings, according to TRAC. “Most have had only one scheduled hearing,” Long said. For those families with legal representation, the attendance rate was 99.9 percent at the first hearing and 99 percent for all hearings, the TRAC report says.

Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975435
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So WaPo found one researcher at Syracuse who looked at a single 4 month period and found one result

Government looked at a different data set and found another result

Meaningful quantities of people arrive and never show up to court

The ability to game this process even with some risk no doubt encourages more people to come illegally

It would be nice if people could simply acknowledge this

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Well you guys typically screech the government can’t do anything right, so clearly the government sources are wrong.

Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975450
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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: manbearpig] #2975462
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Originally Posted by manbearpig
Oh man you are on a squidly level of retard roll today roflmao roflmao roflmao

No. You just hate being called out on your dogma

Organizations like Puebla Sin Fronteras and others spread the word about the asylum loophole and the cartels and their coyotes spread the word further. Every single one of those links furthered the asylum narrative that you have taken as dogma. You’re like talking to a fundamentalist religious person


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There’s a lot of words in there I don’t think you know the meaning of. But the irony is of epic proportions.

Get back to me when you lose those feelZ.

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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: BillyOcean] #2975494
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Originally Posted by BillyOcean

Or if you don’t want to provide free healthcare and college to whoever manages to sneak in


https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/eligibility/non-us-citizens

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Undocumented students, including DACA recipients, are not eligible for federal student aid, but you may still be eligible for state or college aid, in addition to private scholarships.

Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975531
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Re: American concentration camps: 2019 edition. [Re: hal9000] #2975534
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Wow, looks like a nice nice section of Tijuana!

I bet the street tacos are outta' control!

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