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worth a few minutes of your time #2963524
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/business/media/china-tiananmen-square-reuters-censored.html

https://www.reuters.com/video/2019/06/04/tiananmen-30-years-on-protesters-goals-f?videoId=558342739

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...1T50BZ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

A male tourist in his 30s near the square, who gave his family name as Zhang, said he had no idea about the anniversary.

“Never heard of it,” he said. “I’m not aware of this.”

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some pretty interesting interviews on NPR today of Chinese students who recently come to the US to study. Just learning about Tiananmen square now. One girl was so confused she couldn't believe neither the US news of it nor China's take.

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i feel somewhat embarrassed because I cannot help but conclude that American capitalism and the drive to squeeze greater profits out of production via globalization helped secure communist China's place in the world economy.

we helped build the monster while fooking over our working class at the same time.

if trump actually has a solution to unfook this situation, he has my support on that issue.

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Originally Posted by obslop
i feel somewhat embarrassed because I cannot help but conclude that American capitalism and the drive to squeeze greater profits out of production via globalization helped secure communist China's place in the world economy.

we helped build the monster while fooking over our working class at the same time.

if trump actually has a solution to unfook this situation, he has my support on that issue.


agree.

Cheeto has no plan. I actually believe China is right that it was our fault for the breakdown in trade talks last month. Maybe, slight maybe, our convoy had an deal they were offering. Then Cheeto having no idea what's going on in the talks cause he's too busy watching Fox News all day torpedoed it. Dumbass thinks that manufacturing is immediately going to start back up here in the US. He just said that this morning in reference to Mexico tariffs. Those factors are gone

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China has come a long way in the last 50 years and it wouldn't have happened without trade and commerce.


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The propaganda is strong in China. Met a PHD, MD working as a researcher for a local university. Normal everyday guy who was convinced the Dali Lama was the devil incarnate who is hell bent of over throwing the Chinese gov.


If you see a Buddha in the road, ask which gender pronouns they prefer and then kill them.
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Originally Posted by heelnipstr
The propaganda is strong in China. Met a PHD, MD working as a researcher for a local university. Normal everyday guy who was convinced the Dali Lama was the devil incarnate who is hell bent of over throwing the Chinese gov.


Chinese student in the above also had no idea about the million Uighurs in concentration camps

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A man named Zhang? That narrows it down. *

There are people that were there that don’t know anything about it.

* Unless he gave a false name


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I have a good friend that's lived in China for almost twenty years. He was shocked to find out that most people had no idea what had happened. Total censorship.

He did meet people who had neighbors involved in the protests. His friends told him that the neighbors disappeared a few weeks after everything settled down. socrazy

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China is a clusterfuck.


incompetence is preferable to malice.
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They’re doing everything they can to wipe all evidence from the internet

This is why we must share, share, share


My entire existence is a failed gotcha
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El Ogro knows.


incompetence is preferable to malice.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/opinion/sunday/tiananmen-protests-china-wang-dan.html

if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on the human face, forever.

digital networks, big data, consolidation of the information supply.....


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Chinese trip me out.

They aren't cool.

But they got something else.

I would have gone far with a cool chinese wife who believed in me.


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Originally Posted by obslop
i feel somewhat embarrassed because I cannot help but conclude that American capitalism and the drive to squeeze greater profits out of production via globalization helped secure communist China's place in the world economy.

we helped build the monster while fooking over our working class at the same time.

if trump actually has a solution to unfook this situation, he has my support on that issue.


Yesssss! You get it

Trump is highly, highly flawed, but AT LEAST he understands the issue and is willing to publicly call bullshit

We are too deep in this hole to have a pain free way out at this point

It will only become a bigger problem and potentially irresolvable if we continue to do nothing

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