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Re: Surf coach:"The beaches are being re-colonized by white males.; employs security guards to surf California beaches:.. [Re: casa_mugrienta] #2902327
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which are eaten by racist great WHITE sharks....

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Was anyone else offended that Ms Harper called you a racist and is stereotyping?

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Originally Posted By: Topeslide
Was anyone else offended that Ms Harper called you a racist and is stereotyping?


I have never looked at a person and judged them or treated them differently by the color of their skin.

Ms. Harper on the other hand is doing exactly that so who is the racist here?

Pardon me while I leave this conversation to turn on the WET channel. Oh. wait.. my bad. I meant the BET channel.


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Stink eye exists for good reasons and ought to be brought back for the same reasons that fighting exists in the NHL. The pussification of everything needs to stop.


Stinkeye and barking is still very much a thing around here. For or better or worse, now adays it never gets any further than that.

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I agree with lots of the view~points expressed here.
BUT that said, allow me to reverse the scenerio, ok?
Say that the line~ups have mostly black surfers out there,
and you, still in the beginner to intermediate stage of ability, wanna paddle out + ride some waves too. Think that you might not feel a lil' intimidated being a white surfer, maybe not knowing anyone else out there in the water either?

Yea, bet you would.
You're white, + probably don't believe me.
So go grab a basketball and hit up any public basketball court in an urban inner city. Be the only white dude there. Be curious to see if you get starred at, stink eyed, clowned, told to beat it like some surfers tell other surfers who just might also want to enjoy a public resource like ridin' waves...
jam_on


PS ~ In Sept. of '96,
I had to go to court for fighting on the sand at Venice Beach. This was the anniversary month of my 20th year of having learned how to surf at this same beach, of being a local. Prosecutors did not like localism, nor what they might interpret as being such, even waaay back then. Especially so for 1 very large, black female prosecutor who 1st had my case. You will learn quick that No One owns the waves that you, I, everyone else likes to ride. Go argue it with your attorney and The Court if ya do not believe me. Localism, stink eye, what~ever ya wanna call it, is just a form of modern day segregation: "YOU can't surf here, because, well I said so, + your board is the wrong length, brand, style, color, you're from a different town, you are a kook, etc, etc, on+on+on...
See ya.
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Originally Posted By: RWVBWL
I agree with lots of the view~points expressed here.
BUT that said, allow me to reverse the scenerio, ok?
Say that the line~ups have mostly black surfers out there,
and you, still in the beginner to intermediate stage of ability, wanna paddle out + ride some waves too. Think that you might not feel a lil' intimidated being a white surfer, maybe not knowing anyone else out there in the water either?


That's not a reverse scenario, that's an invented scenario.

In Southern California - the location being referenced in the article - the lineup is somewhat diverse culturally/racially.

IMO - both in my observation and having been the obvious minority in the lineup before - outside Hawaii that racial shit does not exist in the lineup.

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Yea, bet you would.
You're white, + probably don't believe me.
So go grab a basketball and hit up any public basketball court in an urban inner city. Be the only white dude there. Be curious to see if you get starred at, stink eyed, clowned, told to beat it like some surfers tell other surfers who just might also want to enjoy a public resource like ridin' waves...
jam_on


I've spent a decent portion of my youth and parts of my 20s in the "urban inner city."
The "stink eye" you get in the African American 'hood as pretty much any lighter skinned group - white, Asian, mestizo - is serious shit. "What the fck you doin here, this ain't your part of town." "You're gonna get the fvck beat the f*ck out of you if you don't split. We ain't playin'." And they absolutely will.

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Right on man, I bow down to your wisdom,
I mean if you say it is so, well it's gotta be true, right?
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So ah,
how many black surfers do you personally know? Know any from when times were grittier, '70's, '80's, pre~cell phone/cell camera dayz when fighting over a wave, local surf turf, maybe even the color of some~ones skin was happenin' more often back then due to the crowded conditions? If you know any black surfers, bet that they are probably not kooks nor beginning surfers, right, for from what I gather, you really don't like kooks or beginners, don't give 'em a tip or 2, even a wave, would ya agree? Please tell more about how black surfers should be, or how black beginners+kooks are supposed to behave, ok? See ya...


PS ~ 3rd grade, our Family moved to Inglewood, beginning of The '70's, lived there a year.
As 1 of the few white kids, a red haired freckled~faced kid catchin' the bus to a black elementary school right near The Forum, well I learned some things. Same too with growing up a surfer in Venice, a ghetto, in some parts, by the Sea. And so ah, I'm curious, where did you learn to surf at? Do you ever casually talk about race + what it was like for them to grow up surfin' in a white dominated surf culture here on Thee Mainland? Betcha The BSA's Ricky Blocker, Tony Corley, David Lansdowne, many others too could enlighten us all further if Surfer Magazine talked with 'em.

Have a look at this from Rick:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/blacksurfing/with/4165028580/
there's people who might not surf as good as you do out there, still having fun!!!
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Originally Posted By: RWVBWL

Betcha The BSA's Ricky Blocker, Tony Corley, David Lansdowne, many others too could enlighten us all further if Surfer Magazine talked with 'em.

Well, well, well, look~ie here!
It's 1983, Tom Curren is kickin' arse Down~Under,
and Surfer is gonna talk about
Black Surfers:
An Exclusive Report



I wonder if Black Surfing Association's Tony Corley got to talk of this below, in that interview:

F**kin' gnarly...


Link:
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See ya.

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Great clip about Racism in Surfing here and the African-American experience...love to see people break stereotypes of any kind! Reading the comments...you can see what they have to overcome as black surfers...

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Another Black surfer Mikey February...shattering stereotypes!! A ripper with style!

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next: blacks winning at the pool.

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Originally Posted By: RWVBWL
Right on man, I bow down to your wisdom,
I mean if you say it is so, well it's gotta be true, right?
bowdown


No, if you say it's so It's gotta be true.

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So ah,
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Speak English.

Also, we are talking about the present, not the events of 30 - 40+ years ago.

I regularly see black surfers at Trestles and Scripps and they appeared to be enjoying themselves unhindered. I did, however, surf with Elishama Beckford not too long ago and can his out of control behavior in the water needed to be hindered, quite badly.



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Originally Posted By: RWVBWL

I wonder if Black Surfing Association's Tony Corley got to talk of this below, in that interview:

F**kin' gnarly...


Yes, indeed fckin gnarly.

The last time I saw Tony Corley he looked like he was pushing 60, that was probably 10 years ago, so he's what, probably 70 by now?

Which would make that little note, considering the tone and spelling, probably written sometime in the early 60s. Over half a century ago.

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