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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: Retropete] #2883589
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Originally Posted By: Retropete
Well he only needed to do it once.


Not too long ago they would say, anyone can shape a board the key is to make surfboardS
Not so much these days

I'd bet Rob making that first board was him sitting down with a guy in front of a computer

I've done that


The drifter has come a long way


Nobody surfs here anymore..........it's too crowded

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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2883627
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Thought Salsa looked extra spicy on the Seaside. Uber fast looking board compared to other's he's ridden. BTW for all the work Salsa's done on his channel and website he's finally getting some coin for his work. Good on him! I'm stoked to see him get something for his effort. He's been doing this a long time and put who knows how many hours, blood, sweat, and tears into his show. He's done a lot to explain boards and fins etc. in leyman's terms, without any weird attitude, and helped me figure out some stuff about surfing. cheers


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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: Mat6920] #2883670
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Originally Posted By: Mat6920
I m more curious about the fins than the board. The dims are too short length wise, not really suitable for tall surfers. Noel absolutely rips in every single board review either way, hard to judge the board just by seeing him surfing it. However he does a great break down of the design !


Agree: He's too good to give a genuine review. Everything works for him.

Disagree: I just ff his talking and wanna watch him surf. His explanations are vague (med low rocker, etc.) and misleading (concave claws the wave).


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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: ghostshaper] #2883715
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Originally Posted By: ghostshaper
Originally Posted By: Mat6920
I m more curious about the fins than the board. The dims are too short length wise, not really suitable for tall surfers. Noel absolutely rips in every single board review either way, hard to judge the board just by seeing him surfing it. However he does a great break down of the design !


Agree: He's too good to give a genuine review. Everything works for him.

Disagree: I just ff his talking and wanna watch him surf. His explanations are vague (med low rocker, etc.) and misleading (concave claws the wave).


Vague ? I haven't seen any one talking that much in details about boards. He usually makes a comment on a part of the design and how it reflects in his turns, manoeuvres etc... i think it s pretty good. But either way I think his reviews target guys competing, whatever the level but competing so serious surfers.

I got a little bored of his reviews cause every board is great for him at the end of the day, not enough focus on the cons, or for what type of surfer this and this board would be good for (powerful surfer / lazy surfer / people looking to hit the lip more etc.... With his skills he should be able to give more insights on ''who should surf this type of board and why '' '' who should surf this board if they want to progress on this and that because of this and that aspect ''

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2883720
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Looks like a fun board and I've seen pics of it in Firewire upcoming Woolight tech that uses natural wool fibres instead of fibreglass.

Thats going to be a really interesting.

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: Mat6920] #2883722
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Originally Posted By: Mat6920


Vague ? I haven't seen any one talking that much in details about boards.

Talking that much Doesn't mean he's providing any detail. Rocker can be quantitatively measured. Qualitative terms like medium, low, high doesn't mean much (vague)

Originally Posted By: Mat6920

He usually makes a comment on a part of the design and how it reflects in his turns, manoeuvres etc... i think it s pretty good.

Doesn't mean he's right. Concaves claw the wave?


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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2883747
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The surf industry being conservative and protective doesn't take too kindly to negative feedback.

Noel has a pretty good thing going, it's in his best interest to keep the positive vibe and ensure the equipment will keep flowing to him.

While Noel seems to say a lot of the same things about the boards he's reviewing, he does hint at shortcomings and potential quirks he feels. They are pretty subtle, but they are there if you're really paying attention.

As to him being too good a surfer to do reviews, would you watch a review of somebody with less skill? Machado rips but I turned off his goofy explanation of the Seaside.

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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2883750
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Just as a contrast lets re-visit Machado at Seaside on a CI biscuit. Sometimes is the latest and greatest that much better? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq-9hI7h52s


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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: Retropete] #2883760
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Originally Posted By: Retropete
Just as a contrast lets re-visit Machado at Seaside on a CI biscuit. Sometimes is the latest and greatest that much better? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq-9hI7h52s


Glad you found that! I remembered this one: https://youtu.be/0RYJsZ9GaQk


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Re: Machado Seaside [Re: ghostshaper] #2883764
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Originally Posted By: ghostshaper
Originally Posted By: Mat6920
I m more curious about the fins than the board. The dims are too short length wise, not really suitable for tall surfers. Noel absolutely rips in every single board review either way, hard to judge the board just by seeing him surfing it. However he does a great break down of the design !


Agree: He's too good to give a genuine review. Everything works for him.

Disagree: I just ff his talking and wanna watch him surf. His explanations are vague (med low rocker, etc.) and misleading (concave claws the wave).


He struggled a little on the Go Fish. Hes got a pretty good handle on design and is definitely a HPSB dude. Retro/alternate does not gel with him.
I like his reviews. Lots of solid info.

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2883986
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He surfs very well but the board looks like it surfs the same as any other thinned out quad fish. I'd rather save $100+ and order a custom from Hanel. I'm sure I'll see just as many of these now at the beach as I do wavestorms. Sure to see a few snapped in half after people take them out in head high beachie.

As for hoods in SD/OC this time of year... I have a bald head so when I get out at first light with the air temp 55 degrees and offshores, if I'm not wearing a hood I'm lucky if I last an hour.

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: DroppingOn] #2884051
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heres an idea: a combo wig/hoody

it just looks like hair, so noobody knows youre wearin a hood

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: 000] #2884079
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Originally Posted By: 000
heres an idea: a combo wig/hoody

it just looks like hair, so noobody knows youre wearin a hood


Genius!

Or better yet, flesh color hoodie.

Re: Machado Seaside [Re: ReefTeef] #2884163
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Originally Posted By: ReefTeef
Originally Posted By: 000
heres an idea: a combo wig/hoody

it just looks like hair, so noobody knows youre wearin a hood


Genius!

Or better yet, flesh color hoodie.


Reminds me of this:



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