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If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified

Posted By: frvcvs

If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 05:53 AM

Why are conservatives so afraid of her? Why not just sit back and wait for her to implode?
Posted By: hammies

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 06:29 AM

She's smart, smart-mouthed, and adored by millions of people on the left. She does have a thin skin though, and lashes out on Twitter at the slightst criticism. Right-wingers know this and are doing everything they can to get her to blow a gasket.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 06:47 AM

I don't want her to implode. I want her popularity to build.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: hammies
She's smart, smart-mouthed, and adored by millions of people on the left. She does have a thin skin though, and lashes out on Twitter at the slightst criticism. Right-wingers know this and are doing everything they can to get her to blow a gasket.


I know another guy with thin skin who lashes out on Twitter. Been trying to get him to blow a gasket for a few years now. computer
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 10:48 AM

I like her

I think she intentionally proposes ridiculous ideas in order to move the needle of what seems reasonable
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 10:49 AM

The only problem is the dumbasses who think she’s totally serious

Like the green energy freaks who post here
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 11:33 AM

If 72yr old Donald J Trump is so stupid and unqualified, why is the left so afraid of him?
Posted By: hal9000

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 11:43 AM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Why are conservatives so afraid of her? Why not just sit back and wait for her to implode?



Exactly. They’re afraid of being called on their bs and they fear the changing of the guard as well as the changing of the game.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 12:04 PM

I don't think anyone is afraid of her. That's a total mischaracterization. She is an easy target of mockery and a giant albatross for the kooky left that makes all democrats look stupid.........so mock away.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 12:55 PM

All publicity is good

Trump proved this

AOC gets it
Posted By: Duffy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 02:56 PM

This meme again.

Conservatives and libertarians (small ‘L’ like myself) aren’t afraid of her. We’re afraid that someone with her nutty ideas is in a position of power.

As far as being dumb goes, I don’t think she’s dumb, she’s just been grossly misinformed.

She isn’t any dumber than your average congressperson.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 03:17 PM

roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


Trumps entire platform is based on fear and hate
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 03:48 PM

I'm not sure you know what either fear or hate is at this point.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 04:41 PM

No one is afraid of her....republicans are championing her.

The goal is to make a dumb bimbo the face of the party. It's working.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 04:46 PM

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Posted By: Norm'

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
If 72yr old Donald J Trump is so stupid and unqualified, why is the left so afraid of him?


Umm, because he's the President, and aside from you, most people don't want Simple Jack running our country.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


Trumps entire platform is based on fear and hate

100% correct
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 04:58 PM

A dumb bimbo is currently the (orange) face of the GOP.

Nancy Pelosi is the rock and balls of the Dhimmicrats.

Watch your sectors for incoming baby batter, gentlemen.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


Trumps entire platform is based on fear and hate

100% correct

100% false.
Posted By: Norm'

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 05:19 PM

There's a caravan! Run for your lives!!!!
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: hammies
She's smart, smart-mouthed, and adored by millions of people on the left. She does have a thin skin though, and lashes out on Twitter at the slightst criticism. Right-wingers know this and are doing everything they can to get her to blow a gasket.


That's a weird program - seeing as how they love Trump's daily gasket blows.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


says the snowflake afraid of womenz and tranz and foreign homebuyers.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


says the snowflake afraid of womenz and tranz and foreign homebuyers.

Once again, you have no clue what fear is if you are accusing me of being "afraid"
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 07:39 PM

MS-13 is coming for you iFall. You make it pretty clear you have no idea what fear is when you try to defend Trump's platform.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: frvcvs

Trumps entire platform is based on fear and hate

100% correct

100% false.

100% gromsdad.

The transformation is complete, iFall 2.0 has achieved full retard status. I guess that means we need to start being nice to him?
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 08:22 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

"afraid"

roflmao

Is this how you guys live life? Scared of everything? Illustrating dislike, pointing out stupidity, mocking, etc is not fear.

Are you afraid of the bad orange man?


Trumps entire platform is based on fear and hate

100% correct

100% false.

Common bud you’re not that dumb and oblivious
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 08:42 PM

The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 08:46 PM

Oh damn, I guess you are.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate


When you look at Donald J. Trump do you see a strong, brave man? socrazy
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:02 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Oh damn, I guess you are.
rolleyes

THE WALL COMES FROM FEAR AND HATE

Even you aren't that mushy-brained to believe that, are you? That's a ridiculous TRD/EVERYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS RACIST falsehood
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate


When you look at Donald J. Trump do you see a strong, brave man? socrazy

No, and that has nothing to do with what you're talking about
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:09 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Oh damn, I guess you are.
rolleyes

THE WALL COMES FROM FEAR AND HATE

Even you aren't that mushy-brained to believe that, are you? That's a ridiculous TRD/EVERYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS RACIST falsehood

You should really think about this one a little more.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate


When you look at Donald J. Trump do you see a strong, brave man? socrazy


No, and that has nothing to do with what you're talking about


Actually it does.

Either he's an ignorant fearful man afraid of brown people from the south who are coming here to "sell drugs, rape and murder" us all. Or he's falsely making that claim to use fear of those things to advance some other agenda. Which is it? I'm not really sure which is worse. Either way it's all based on fear and hate with a dash of narcissism for good measure.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate


When you look at Donald J. Trump do you see a strong, brave man? socrazy


No, and that has nothing to do with what you're talking about


Actually it does.

Either he's an ignorant fearful man afraid of brown people from the south who are coming here to "sell drugs, rape and murder" us all. Or he's falsely making that claim to use fear of those things to advance some other agenda. Which is it? I'm not really sure which is worse. Either way it's all based on fear and hate with a dash of narcissism for good measure.

It's neither of those choices to tell you the truth. Not fear, nor hate.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:20 PM

Nice denial and feet stomping bud.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/08/19 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
The assumption is asinine, based on false definitions of both fear and hate


When you look at Donald J. Trump do you see a strong, brave man? socrazy


No, and that has nothing to do with what you're talking about


Actually it does.

Either he's an ignorant fearful man afraid of brown people from the south who are coming here to "sell drugs, rape and murder" us all. Or he's falsely making that claim to use fear of those things to advance some other agenda. Which is it? I'm not really sure which is worse. Either way it's all based on fear and hate with a dash of narcissism for good measure.

It's neither of those choices to tell you the truth. Not fear, nor hate.


Well then, feel free to enlighten us. Or is it time for you to conveniently go back to work?poke
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 01:18 AM

El Sal is a gang hell hole

So when people from El Sal come here we’re supposed to pretend no gang nutters are in the mix?
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 04:07 AM

Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 04:59 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas


Where did he make that assertion? I thought he was pointing to a pretty specific example, but maybe I missed the start of the discussion. Seems like you are seriously defensive when it comes to Trump. Why?

Whether or not you think Trump's policy choices are based on hate and fear, you have to be a complete asshat to deny that he sells his platform by appealing to deep seated hatred and fear in his base. What other explanation can you offer for his repeated demonization of illegal immigrants and others? You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug
Posted By: CutnSnip

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
[quote=ifallalot] You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug


I used to live in K-Town. MS-13 tags up and down my whole block. Still wasn't a concern- the average person didn't know they existed until 2 years ago.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 06:23 AM

Yeah I’ve lived in an area that’s been a hot spot since I was a kid. Literally has never been a concern despite weird orange guy saying I should be dead.
Posted By: RWVBWL

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 10:01 AM

If you turn your radio off, your tv off, your internet off,
you happen to realize that not every one, every person of any color,
is out to get you.

The news hypes the worst that ever happens, it sells.
Donnie Trump hypes it too, got him elected. Now, it's the caravan, they are coming for you.
So is thee boogie~man.
Pffft...
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 12:34 PM

1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas


Where did he make that assertion? I thought he was pointing to a pretty specific example, but maybe I missed the start of the discussion. Seems like you are seriously defensive when it comes to Trump. Why?

Whether or not you think Trump's policy choices are based on hate and fear, you have to be a complete asshat to deny that he sells his platform by appealing to deep seated hatred and fear in his base. What other explanation can you offer for his repeated demonization of illegal immigrants and others? You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug

"Trump's entire platform is based on fear and hate"

Every politician uses fear to some degree
Posted By: RWVBWL

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens
But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population
91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien

^^^^^^^^^^^^^*
Dang dude,
that is some serious #'s!
No wonder we can never seem to balance thee budget!!!
Bein' in a jovial kinda mood this Saturday mornin', well I thought I'd share an ol' comedians
view on balancin' thee budget, especially with regards to prisoners, ok? Have a laugh, Billy!



If ya watched this vid,
well ol' George makes mention of where he'd like to send some American citizens, criminals.
But he does not make mention of thee illegal alien prisoners you made mention of, hmmmm.

My suggestion? Build a huge f**kin' prison at Guantanamo, let 'em sit there, when they get out,
they'll have fun gettin' back to their home, or tryin' to come illegally into Florida if they can swim
good enough before a shark eats 'em, you like it?
Laterz bro!
shark
wave2


Posted By: RWVBWL

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 07:45 PM

Let's get this thread back on track, oakie~dokie?

If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified:
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Why are conservatives so afraid of her?
Why not just sit back and wait for her to implode?

This chick has some great ideas!
Ah, what ya think of this idea, that idea???
Have at it boyz...

Btw: You erBB boyz would do her too, no?
Give her all your luv, with~out a condom on, you know it, right?
Betcha Donnie Trump would, all them old white Repub geezers too, bet they wonder what color
her panties are, what kind they is when they see her, for she is thee hottest Congress~woman ever!

Lil' fine~ie, you go, go, go girl! Yow~za, gonna be fun watchin' her grow,
f**k with them old fo~ggies in Congress!!! Hahaha...
jam_on
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 07:56 PM

I want her support to grow.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



What is the % of non violent drug offenders?

Build a wall!
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



What is the % of non violent drug offenders?

Build a wall!


beat me to it...

that is an incredibly relevant detail.

I'm sure there's *someone* on this forum who can tell us what percentage of
federal inmates are black relative to their occurrence in the general population.

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas


Where did he make that assertion? I thought he was pointing to a pretty specific example, but maybe I missed the start of the discussion. Seems like you are seriously defensive when it comes to Trump. Why?

Whether or not you think Trump's policy choices are based on hate and fear, you have to be a complete asshat to deny that he sells his platform by appealing to deep seated hatred and fear in his base. What other explanation can you offer for his repeated demonization of illegal immigrants and others? You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug

"Trump's entire platform is based on fear and hate"

Every politician uses fear to some degree


There are ethical an unethical uses of appeals to fear.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 09:37 PM

You don't get sentenced to federal prison for mere possession for recreational use.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 10:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



What is the % of non violent drug offenders?

Build a wall!


Look at the above data

Even if you assume all 1mm drug offenders are non violent, what about the 500,000+ assaults, sex crimes, kidnappings and murders?

All from people who shouldn’t be here in the first place
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



What is the % of non violent drug offenders?

Build a wall!


beat me to it...

that is an incredibly relevant detail.

I'm sure there's *someone* on this forum who can tell us what percentage of
federal inmates are black relative to their occurrence in the general population.



The point is not about race

The point is these people shouldn’t even be in the country and they are committing a disproportionate % of crime overall
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/09/19 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



What is the % of non violent drug offenders?

Build a wall!


Look at the above data

Even if you assume all 1mm drug offenders are non violent, what about the 500,000+ assaults, sex crimes, kidnappings and murders?

All from people who shouldn’t be here in the first place


What is your point again?



Posted By: craigj532

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



One of the most intellectually dishonest pieces I’ve ever read. GromsDad level stupidity.

Here’s the link to the GAO report, so you can figure out on your own why:

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/693162.pdf

Here’s a highlight for you: “GAO’s analyses found that 92 percent of the criminal aliens incarcerated in federal prison from fiscal years 2011 through 2016 were convicted of primary offenses related to immigration or drugs[.]”
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas


Where did he make that assertion? I thought he was pointing to a pretty specific example, but maybe I missed the start of the discussion. Seems like you are seriously defensive when it comes to Trump. Why?

Whether or not you think Trump's policy choices are based on hate and fear, you have to be a complete asshat to deny that he sells his platform by appealing to deep seated hatred and fear in his base. What other explanation can you offer for his repeated demonization of illegal immigrants and others? You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug

"Trump's entire platform is based on fear and hate"

Every politician uses fear to some degree


There are ethical an unethical uses of appeals to fear.


roflmao
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Everything you disagree with is not hate or fear. The assertion is so ridiculous and so steeped in TRD that it's not even worth arguing. Trump is not a white supremacist who's trying to create the Fourth Reich in America with orange swaztikas


Where did he make that assertion? I thought he was pointing to a pretty specific example, but maybe I missed the start of the discussion. Seems like you are seriously defensive when it comes to Trump. Why?

Whether or not you think Trump's policy choices are based on hate and fear, you have to be a complete asshat to deny that he sells his platform by appealing to deep seated hatred and fear in his base. What other explanation can you offer for his repeated demonization of illegal immigrants and others? You think MS-13 is an honest concern for average Americans? Or do you think Trump is using fear to motivate his base? shrug

"Trump's entire platform is based on fear and hate"

Every politician uses fear to some degree


There are ethical an unethical uses of appeals to fear.


roflmao


I'm not joking.

IF your boy is on the trampoline playing with a chain saw it's okay to scare the fook out of him so he quits.

Come on.

Quit being so dumb.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:06 AM

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Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:09 AM

It's just more fun to watch someone smart like you always twist themselves into ORANGE MAN BAD
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
It's just more fun to watch someone smart like you always twist themselves into ORANGE MAN BAD


I wasn't even talking about trump or thinking about him.

I'm teaching ethical and unethical persuasion next week so it was on my mind.

That is you confabulating.

Ps: You think I'm smart? monkey
Posted By: RWVBWL

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 03:23 AM

Alexandria,
on the war~path, f**kin' with 'em already!!!

I'll be:

Wow, just wow!
jam_on
Posted By: hammies

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 04:15 AM

In many ways AOC is a lot like Trump:

- They both have a base of supporters that will march off a cliff with them.
- They both give a powerful voice to a substantial portion of the population who felt unheard, disrespected, and ignored.
- They both speak through Twitter, and do not hesitate to viciously lash out at their critics.
- They both project righteous anger and copious indignation.
- They both command media attention disproportionate to their accomplishments.
- They both have caused their parties to shift their positions a lot.
- They both came in with no experience in politics.
- They both cause people on the opposite side of the political spectrum to hate their guts with foaming-at-the-mouth passion.

I suspect (with great trepidation) that this is the future of national politics.

They are different in that she's way, way smarter and much more articulate than Trump, and likely less vain and shallow. Plus she's not a big fat disgusting pig.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 04:44 AM

Originally Posted By: craigj532
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
1/5 of people in Fed prison are criminal aliens

But illegal aliens are only about 1/30 of total population

91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.

The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes.

In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities.

Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien



One of the most intellectually dishonest pieces I’ve ever read. GromsDad level stupidity.

Here’s the link to the GAO report, so you can figure out on your own why:

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/693162.pdf

Here’s a highlight for you: “GAO’s analyses found that 92 percent of the criminal aliens incarcerated in federal prison from fiscal years 2011 through 2016 were convicted of primary offenses related to immigration or drugs[.]”




Here are the stats from the report

Lotta violent crime there

Not sure why you’d want to pretend otherwise


Table 2: Estimated Number and Percent of Attempted or Committed Offenses for Which Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal Prisons from Fiscal Years 2011 through 2016 who had an FBI Number Were Arrested/Transferred from 1974 through 2017
Immigrationa 874,400
Drugs 336,600
Traffic violations 204,400
Obstruction of justice 141,300
Assault 108,400
Miscellaneous 74,200
Larceny/theft 70,300
Fraud, forgery, and counterfeiting 62,300
Burglary 44,900
Weapons violations 44,500
Motor vehicle theft 19,500
Sex offenses 13,500
Disorderly conduct 12,300
Stolen property 14,300
Property damage 17,500
Robbery 13,500
Homicide 6,000
Kidnapping 5,600
Arson 400
Terrorism 400
Posted By: craigj532

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 06:42 AM

Yes, over a 43-year period, over 75% of the arrests, not convictions, were for immigration offenses, drugs, traffic crimes, and obstruction of justice. The op-ed in your post was ridiculously dishonest. Want to guess what the statistics are for US citizens?

The reason 1 in 5 federal prisoners are immigrants is because about 25% of federal prosecutions are for immigration offenses. About 7% of federal prosecutions are for violent offenses. More than 90% of non-citizens federal inmates are removed after their sentence is up. You are way more likely to be the victim of a violent crime committed by a US citizen than committed by an illegal alien.

You want to debate the topic, at least be honest about it.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:14 PM

bottom line

Not supposed to be here

Committing crimes way out of proportion to the general pop

If you think going to prison for drug crimes = non violent you are a dumbass
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:17 PM

Would you consider yourself an idealist?

On a side note, all my friend's that are rich businessmen sold coke in their 20s.

Mostly so they could have their own free supply.

If those guys got caught they would have been in jail.

Those guys are all 1%ers and you want them in jail.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 02:29 PM

Now there's talk that the Dems in New York might be considering ways to gerrymander her district out of existence.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 04:04 PM

I can see that.

Aristotle says in tragedy it's always someone near and dear who takes you out.

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Costco needs Barista's.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I can see that.

Aristotle says in tragedy it's always someone near and dear who takes you out.

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.


Her popularity is rising because the republicans are raising it. This the the plan. Make a complete nut case the leader of the democrat party.
Posted By: mundus

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Costco needs Barista's.
The woman has accomplished more in her young life then you could dream of.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I can see that.

Aristotle says in tragedy it's always someone near and dear who takes you out.

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.


Her popularity is rising because the republicans are raising it. This the the plan. Make a complete nut case the leader of the democrat party.


Whoever wins it's going to be about the other side fvcking up.

Eagle and the arrow.
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
bottom line

Not supposed to be here

Committing crimes way out of proportion to the general pop

If you think going to prison for drug crimes = non violent you are a dumbass


$integrity--
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Costco needs Barista's.
The woman has accomplished more in her young life then you could dream of.


Really? You think getting a bunch of uneducated street people to vote for you under the promise (lie) of free stuff is an accomplishment? Exploitation used to be frowned upon.

What notable thing has she done?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 09:14 PM

To the extent these ideas are percolating in some of the universities I think it's good to air them out and discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly.

You would only want the discussion to stop if you actually thought we-the-people were too stupid to act in their own interests.

High speed trains to make air travel obsolete? Great - what's the actual plan and what does it cost and who is paying for it?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 09:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Costco needs Barista's.
The woman has accomplished more in her young life then you could dream of.


Really? You think getting a bunch of uneducated street people to vote for you under the promise (lie) of free stuff is an accomplishment? Exploitation used to be frowned upon.

What notable thing has she done?


Please quote who said anybody is getting stuff for "free" or STFU

You look stupid when you lie.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I can see that.

Aristotle says in tragedy it's always someone near and dear who takes you out.

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.


Her popularity is rising because the republicans are raising it. This the the plan. Make a complete nut case the leader of the democrat party.

roflmao

to go along with what they did for their own party !! )














Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: mundus
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

She might be able to do something else if her popularity keeps rising.
Costco needs Barista's.
The woman has accomplished more in her young life then you could dream of.


Really? You think getting a bunch of uneducated street people to vote for you under the promise (lie) of free stuff is an accomplishment? Exploitation used to be frowned upon.

What notable thing has she done?


Please quote who said anybody is getting stuff for "free" or STFU

You look stupid when you lie.


You're especially frustrated today.

This thread is specifically about the dumb bimbo, so I'm not sure why you would need to ask "who". Is this how you lay the foundation for one of your imaginary arguments with no one in particular?

"Economic security for all that are unable or unwilling to work"

"Tuition-free public college and trade school"

"Medicare for all"
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


Please quote who said anybody is getting stuff for "free" or STFU

You look stupid when you lie.


You're especially frustrated today.

This thread is specifically about the dumb bimbo, so I'm not sure why you would need to ask "who". Is this how you lay the foundation for one of your imaginary arguments with no one in particular?

"Economic security for all that are unable or unwilling to work"

"Tuition-free public college and trade school"

"Medicare for all"


Where did she say that Medicare for all, social security or college tuition are free?

"Tuition-free" doesn't mean it's free. Nobody every denied that Medicare is paid by tax dollars.

Nobody ever said it's free.

Dumbshit.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 11:30 PM

I’m definitely going to go back to college if tuition is free

I’ll use my “unwilling to work” stipend to buy weed
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 11:36 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean


I’ll use my “unwilling to work” stipend to buy weed


When robots replace you in your unnecessary clerk job, you may need to claim that Universal Basic income.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean


I’ll use my “unwilling to work” stipend to buy weed


When robots replace you in your unnecessary clerk job, you may need to claim that Universal Basic income.


Probably yes

I need a sweet glass bong first though
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 11:43 PM

I'm sure that with every "free" college enrollment you get a "free" robot bong.

That's how "socialism" works.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/10/19 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


Please quote who said anybody is getting stuff for "free" or STFU

You look stupid when you lie.


You're especially frustrated today.

This thread is specifically about the dumb bimbo, so I'm not sure why you would need to ask "who". Is this how you lay the foundation for one of your imaginary arguments with no one in particular?

"Economic security for all that are unable or unwilling to work"

"Tuition-free public college and trade school"

"Medicare for all"


Where did she say that Medicare for all, social security or college tuition are free?

"Tuition-free" doesn't mean it's free. Nobody every denied that Medicare is paid by tax dollars.

Nobody ever said it's free.

Dumbshit.


roflmao

I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
I'm sure that with every "free" college enrollment you get a "free" robot bong.

That's how "socialism" works.


Drugs are definitely gonna be a huge part of the utopian future
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



I know I'm going to regret this and the ensuing fecalJERK, but if the government is providing it, taxpayers.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



Who cares how they're funded if we get paid not to work?

Finland just tried a UBI program and while it didn't result in more recipients getting jobs it did result in those recipients being happier.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:43 AM

The rantings of AOC are pure Fekaltraum
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



I know I'm going to regret this and the ensuing fecalJERK, but if the government is providing it, taxpayers.


Rad.


Well at least we agree that it's not free and that nobody ever claimed it's free.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



Who cares how they're funded if we get paid not to work?

Finland just tried a UBI program and while it didn't result in more recipients getting jobs it did result in those recipients being happier.


We are not talking about UBI, nobody is talking about the UBI, not AOC, not anybody in the government.

We are talking about things like Medicare which is funded by the taxpayer and directly benefits the taxpayer.

Nobody ever claimed it's "free", except for the rightards.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



I know I'm going to regret this and the ensuing fecalJERK, but if the government is providing it, taxpayers.


Rad.


Well at least we agree that it's not free and that nobody ever claimed it's free.


I think you're confused, and very stupid.

What if the person receiving these goods and services doesn't pay taxes or pays less in taxes than the value they receive in return? Like the people in AOC's district for instance, where less than 75% of the people pay any income tax at all?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:14 AM

Free college
Posted By: hal9000

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:38 AM

This is a lot of thread replies for a bunch of dudes claiming to not feel threatened by AOC. Looks like she's owning the cons.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



I know I'm going to regret this and the ensuing fecalJERK, but if the government is providing it, taxpayers.


Rad.


Well at least we agree that it's not free and that nobody ever claimed it's free.


I think you're confused, and very stupid.

What if the person receiving these goods and services doesn't pay taxes or pays less in taxes than the value they receive in return? Like the people in AOC's district for instance, where less than 75% of the people pay any income tax at all?
Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.
Posted By: hal9000

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:43 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.
Posted By: 1whoknows

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:56 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.


You’re exposing your over-the-hill white male privilege
Posted By: hal9000

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.


isn't that true for any erBB thread?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger


I don't think her words were designed to cause this much confusion.


You seem to be confused about how these programs are funded.



I know I'm going to regret this and the ensuing fecalJERK, but if the government is providing it, taxpayers.


Rad.


Well at least we agree that it's not free and that nobody ever claimed it's free.


I think you're confused, and very stupid.

What if the person receiving these goods and services doesn't pay taxes or pays less in taxes than the value they receive in return? Like the people in AOC's district for instance, where less than 75% of the people pay any income tax at all?


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.


I'm having a great time drinking rightard tears.

That's what it's all about, being a spiteful old git, right? poke
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 04:40 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?


Now what are you blabbering about.

I'm not focusing on anyone. AOC focused on NY-14, not me. She ran on free stuff. These were her words, not mine.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 05:15 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.


I'm having a great time drinking rightard tears.

That's what it's all about, being a spiteful old git, right? poke


roflmao

Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 08:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?


Now what are you blabbering about.

I'm not focusing on anyone. AOC focused on NY-14, not me. She ran on free stuff. These were her words, not mine.


She said "I will give you free stuff"?

Did she say she's abolishing taxes?

You keep making things up.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: hal9000
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate


Irrelevant, this does not make Der Fekal feel good about ze-self.



The only person getting free anything is AOC getting free room and board in your head.


It's pretty obvious which people are having fun with the topic and which are getting upset about it.


I'm having a great time drinking rightard tears.

That's what it's all about, being a spiteful old git, right? poke


roflmao



G, did you actually take the time to make that?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 05:54 PM

roflmao
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:18 PM

Quote:


G, did you actually take the time to make that?

Of course. Nothing is too good for our little authoritarian.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:19 PM

Thanks "Daddy"
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:38 PM

Actually, I'm grand-daddy (hence the handle). Have been for years. i never aspired to be the pathetic half-formed adolescent trapped in the middle-aged body.

Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:41 PM

But hey, you're stoked, right? You're hitting the Grecian Formula and Just for Men in the vain effort to pretend to be young and woke. How's that going for you?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:49 PM

I like how you went back to edit your post to extend the insult a bit more. How come you didn't throw a genocide and my nationality while you were there?

This is definitely something a GRANDDADDY who is not pathetic at all would do.

roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao



That and make custom memes, just for me. Aw.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Actually, I'm grand-daddy (hence the handle)


You were a GranDaddy in '06? Whoa.

It's going great for me, George. Thx
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 07:15 PM

Quote:

That and make custom memes, just for me. Aw.

roflmao

I've figured out that you understand pictures a little better than words so i'm trying to accommodate you.

As for happy vs not happy - only one of us has a chronic rage problem. You're always pissed off about something, and it's always personal with you - no matter who you're beefing with.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?


Now what are you blabbering about.

I'm not focusing on anyone. AOC focused on NY-14, not me. She ran on free stuff. These were her words, not mine.


She said "I will give you free stuff"?

Did she say she's abolishing taxes?

You keep making things up.


and.........the fecalJerk
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Quote:

That and make custom memes, just for me. Aw.

roflmao

I've figured out that you understand pictures a little better than words so i'm trying to accommodate you.

As for happy vs not happy - only one of us has a chronic rage problem. You're always pissed off about something, and it's always personal with you - no matter who you're beefing with.


It's a high empath vs low empath thing, you wouldn't understand.

I find your bigoted views personally insulting, yes.

You also always incorporate my nationality and genocide as an insult in your arguments so it's hard not to be insulted.

So yeah, just because I hate bigots it doesn't mean that I'm raging all the time. smile2

Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 07:57 PM

"Not raging all the time"

roflmao

That's the only way you DO interact with people you disagree with.

Perhaps you're not sufficiently self-aware to notice this due to your low empathy. Maybe you were raised wrong.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
"Not raging all the time"

roflmao

That's the only way you DO interact with people you disagree with.

Perhaps you're not sufficiently self-aware to notice this due to your low empathy. Maybe you were raised wrong.



Again, equating bigotry with disagreement.

You keep doing that.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 08:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?


Now what are you blabbering about.

I'm not focusing on anyone. AOC focused on NY-14, not me. She ran on free stuff. These were her words, not mine.


She said "I will give you free stuff"?

Did she say she's abolishing taxes?

You keep making things up.


and.........the fecalJerk


I'm not trying to be a jerk Doug.

Stop saying that this stuff is free. Nobody is saying that.

Unless AOC wants to abolish taxes all together.

Then you can say that she wants to give stuff for free.

But that's not the case.

Medicare for all is a much better ROI for majority of taxpayers than another aircraft carrier or a Haliburton contract.

I don't know why are you guys so emotionally wrought with the small minority that doesn't pay taxes.

It always goes back to spitefulness.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


How many people are there who never paid taxes at some point in their life and why are you focusing only on those people when it benefits all taxpayers?

Is this a big problem like the transgenderz?


Now what are you blabbering about.

I'm not focusing on anyone. AOC focused on NY-14, not me. She ran on free stuff. These were her words, not mine.


She said "I will give you free stuff"?

Did she say she's abolishing taxes?

You keep making things up.


and.........the fecalJerk


I'm not trying to be a jerk Doug.

Stop saying that this stuff is free. Nobody is saying that.

Unless AOC wants to abolish taxes all together.

Then you can say that she wants to give stuff for free.

But that's not the case.

Medicare for all is a much better ROI for majority of taxpayers than another aircraft carrier or a Haliburton contract.

I don't know why are you guys so emotionally wrought with the small minority that doesn't pay taxes.

It always goes back to spitefulness.


I think I get your point. It's not free if someone else pays for it. You should go steal a car and try that logic on the judge. Let him know it's already been paid for, including taxes already. roflmao
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/11/19 11:27 PM

Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 01:36 AM

I’m good with free health care if there is a diet mandate that results in fewer fat chicks

Otherwise, no
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.


So, trickle down economics?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:40 AM

Steroids fried your brain.

Sad.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:44 AM

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.


So, trickle down economics?


The only thing trickling anywhere is POTUS's orange seed dripping down your chin. facelick
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.


So, trickle down economics?


Trickle up.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 01:24 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
empath

roflmao
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.

In theory yes

In practice? Probably not, unless we get some draconian preventative healthcare measures in place
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
low empath

roflmao


I have to credit Autoprax for that.

You're it.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:43 PM

You want to be empathetic but not too empathetic.

It's all about balance.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Having universal health care will make the society more robust, which will pay back dividends to the niggardly Richie Riches of the country.

In theory yes

In practice? Probably not, unless we get some draconian preventative healthcare measures in place


We already have that.

I bought the expensive insurance and they had gamed the system, coming up with ways not to pay for anything. IT was a trip to see how they did it.

Now I'm back at Kaiser: pain meds and setting broken bones is all I expect from them.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
You want to be empathetic but not too empathetic.

It's all about balance.


Agree.

I don't think ifall's problem is being too empathetic.

He thinks compassion is a swear word.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/12/19 05:53 PM

Gavin doesn't like cucks.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 01:44 PM

Good Lord........she actually thought that the City Of New York was going to give Amazon $3 Billion and that now that her ilk has caused Amazon to abandon its plans that there is now an extra $3 Billion available. You can't make this shit up......and she supposedly has an economics degree........


Quote:
“We were subsidizing those jobs,” Ocasio-Cortez said Thursday. “The city was paying for those jobs. Frankly, if we were willing to give away $3 billion dollars for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district, ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that amount of money if we wanted to.”
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 02:28 PM

She’s not wrong. There was zero reason to give those subsidies to one of the most profitable companies in the world.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 02:36 PM

So you're as dumb as she is. We knew that though............
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 02:48 PM

Explain why $3bill of tax payer money is better as an offering to one of the most profitable companies in the world right now instead of being put back into the community for infrastructure.
Posted By: mundus

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 02:52 PM

Anyone else notice that Amazon pays zero in taxes?
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:00 PM

Was this a check to Amazon or was it subsidies/tax write-offs?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Explain why $3bill of tax payer money is better as an offering to one of the most profitable companies in the world right now instead of being put back into the community for infrastructure.


This was not a case of government giving "tax payer money" away as you seem to think. This was a case of government letting the business keep more of its earnings as an enticement due to the tremendous financial and social benefit to the city that the business was going to create in the form of jobs, neighborhood improvements, increased economic activity that results in far greater benefit to the government coffers.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: mundus
Anyone else notice that Amazon pays zero in taxes?


Do you realize how incredibly stupid that statement is? Stop. Just stop it. Please just stop and consider for a few minutes and think of all of the tax revenue Amazon generates for government. Its hard to even fathom what that dollar amount must be. Just try to add it up in your head.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Explain why $3bill of tax payer money is better as an offering to one of the most profitable companies in the world right now instead of being put back into the community for infrastructure.


This was not a case of government giving "tax payer money" away as you seem to think. This was a case of government letting the business keep more of its earnings as an enticement due to the tremendous financial and social benefit to the city that the business was going to create in the form of jobs, neighborhood improvements, increased economic activity that results in far greater benefit to the government coffers.

That’s quite the spin. So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:39 PM

What rules would you like them to be run by?
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:52 PM

Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 03:55 PM

Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does
Posted By: everysurfr

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:07 PM

My business doesn't get sponsored by the government to put my office in their city.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:09 PM

You’re not wrong; but the end of the day any company coming shouldn’t cost the state or the tax payers a penny. You guys are arguing for monetary rights of large corporations over average people. Frankly I’d be more glad to see government sponsoring companies (credit: Everysurfer) go the way of the dodo.
Posted By: mundus

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
You’re not wrong; but the end of the day any company coming shouldn’t cost the state or the tax payers a penny. You guys are arguing for monetary rights of large corporations over average people.
Don't you know, Corporations are people, except when they commit crimes.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
You’re not wrong; but the end of the day any company coming shouldn’t cost the state or the tax payers a penny. You guys are arguing for monetary rights of large corporations over average people. Frankly I’d be more glad to see government sponsoring companies (credit: Everysurfer) go the way of the dodo.

I'm not arguing for the monetary rights of large corporations over people, I'm simply stating a fact that exists due to our messed up tax system and the idea of corporate personhood. As of right now, Amazon is simply taking advantage of the same write-offs and loopholes that every single-proprietor and on up business has. They make more money, spend more money, and can right off more money. It's just the way it is And it's wrong.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
She’s not wrong. There was zero reason to give those subsidies to one of the most profitable companies in the world.


You mean other than the massive increase in employment and spending (all taxed) that many jobs brings to the local economy?

I don't have a problem with the locals opposing the proposed tax break. But neither do I have a problem with the company seeking its fortunes elsewhere. So now unless Amazon changes their mind it will be some other locale that scores the business.

As for ARC she's just standing by her principles. She'd have gotten roasted by the other International socialists if she hadn't opposed Amazon coming to town under those conditions. Unless she had been smart enough to characterize the deal in terms of its actual benefits to her community - which she isn't.



Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:34 PM

Instead of 90% of something they now get 100% of nothing. Somewhere else will now get the 90% of something.

This decision didn't make them a dime. Contrary to what our economics major was thinking the town does not now have any new revenue or savings to "invest in infrastructure or hire teachers". The existing balance sheet carries forward as it did before. No progress will be occurring on the large scale basis.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:48 PM

Simple question for the simpletons out there: Why was a city and state run entirely by liberal democrats offering incentives to Amazon to locate their new facility there?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:50 PM

Twitter has been going for 12 years now and they apparently had their first profitable quarter at the end of 2017. Prior to that they had reportedly lost a total of $2B.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.

No, you just don't want to admit your own hypocrisy.
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:18 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.

No, you just don't want to admit your own hypocrisy.


not sure how their state taxes look, but they've enjoyed a negative tax rate
at the federal level for the last two years. totally bananas!

http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

Quote:
According to a report published by the Institute on Taxation and Economic (ITEP) policy Wednesday, the e-tail/retail/tech/entertainment/everything giant won’t have to pay a cent in federal taxes for the second year in a row.

This tax-free break comes even though Amazon almost doubled its U.S. profits from $5.6 billion to $11.2 billion between 2017 and 2018.

To top it off, Amazon actually reported a $129 million 2018 federal income tax rebate—making its tax rate -1%.


sales tax is collected based on the buyer's state

employed local citizens will pay income tax on their income...
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.

I believe you meant "should not offer a penny"

But yes, I agree with you and agree with her on this point
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:28 PM

Yes that is what I meant.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:36 PM

That's aspirational, which is fine. But as long as government and businesses have the discretion to enter into compromises there will be competition. By definition, "what should be" usually....isn't. Way of the world.

Love them or hate them, Amazon didn't become what it is by taking the high road and ceding the rest to their competitors. They did it by getting down in the mud and fighting it out.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 06:46 PM

All moot points.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 07:06 PM

Philadelphia, another democrat run city in a state with a democrat governor offered Amazon 5.7 Billion in tax incentives to move there. City is such a shithole that they turned it down though.

Several areas in New Jersey also made proposals along with about 50 proposals that were submitted.

If I were Amazon I would go to North Carolina due to its low corporate tax rate and easy access to major highways and air terminals for shipping
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.


Good news. They didn't.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.


Allocate "what" money? There is no Amazon money of any kind UNLESS Amazon comes to town. NYC doesn't have one dime now that they didn't already have before. There is no new money at the government to allocate to any other use. They *could* have brought more money in that they *could* use for the benefit of the entire community, but they chose to reject that money because they wanted more.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 07:58 PM

How’d that work out in Wisconsin GDaddy?

Btw, I still think chasing Amazon away was a bad idea.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 08:01 PM

If the real beef was with gentrification and the net effect of more poor people out from neighborhoods all over town then I think that's a valid point of discussion, and one that I'd actually agree with and support. But that's a completely different discussion from tax revenues.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
How’d that work out in Wisconsin GDaddy?

Btw, I still think chasing Amazon away was a bad idea.


I'm not getting your reference. Did WI offer businesses incentives to relocate there?
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 08:09 PM

Yeah, at Trump’s direction. Foxconn took billions, promised thousands of jobs, and now it appears they will deliver nothing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloombe...ll-has-foxconn-
Posted By: the janitor

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.


Good news. They didn't.


I don't know the details on this, was Amazon essentially trying to get the same sort of deal that NFL teams want when they try to get public financing for a new stadium/complex?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 08:51 PM

Manbear still clearly doesn't understand the situation............
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Yeah, at Trump’s direction. Foxconn took billions, promised thousands of jobs, and now it appears they will deliver nothing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloombe...ll-has-foxconn-


Ah, got it. So the parallels is that there are "direct incentives" and tax breaks being offered in exchange for the promise of additional employment and spending; the actual revenues (and presumably the taxation that would go with those revenues) being far less than promised.

So does this amount to the point that instead of getting 90% of $10B the state's now only going to get 90% of 3B? I mean, isn't that how taxation works - whatever the rate of taxation involved, the proceeds will be based on the amount of revenues that are actually generated?

Obviously a subsidy would involve external money actually being added to the venture, so that part of it functions entirely differently. But i had not heard that NY was actually adding money to the Amazon deal.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 09:17 PM

No. My only point is that things don’t always go as rosy as promised. Wisconsin is getting majorly fvcked. The Amazon situation is different, as I acknowledged.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: the janitor
Originally Posted By: Coat Hanger
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


Your question; "So companies like amazon should run by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?" didn't make any sense so I simply asked for clarification......therefore I asked "What rules would you like them to be run by?"

It just seems to me that you don't understand how any of this works. I'll try to simplify it for you. Amazon is such a desirable company to have in a region that governments were in a bidding war to entice them to build their new East Coast facility in their state or city. Those on the west coast may not have been aware of this and how the process went. States, cities and counties (mostly democrat run by the way) were all submitting proposals to Amazon in the hopes that Amazon would provide a major economic and tax revenue windfall. Amazon selected NY but now has changed its mind......now the facility will be built elsewhere and NY will miss out on BILLIONS in tax revenue to their coffers not to mention an estimated 25,000 new good paying jobs.

Government should have to offer a penny of taxpayer money for any business. You contradict your own ramblings with your harping on this issue. There are far better places to allocate that money which is exactly what cortez’s point is.


Good news. They didn't.


I don't know the details on this, was Amazon essentially trying to get the same sort of deal that NFL teams want when they try to get public financing for a new stadium/complex?


https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/16/18098589/amazon-hq2-nyc-queens-long-island-city-explained

Quote:
The agreement comes with a number of incentives: Specifically, Amazon will receive $897 million from the city’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP) and $386 million from the Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP). It will receive an additional $505 million in a capital grant and $1.2 billion in “Excelsior” credits if its job creation goals are met. That brings the total amount of public funds granted to $2.988 billion—in other words, the city and state will pay Amazon $48,000 per job.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.

No, you just don't want to admit your own hypocrisy.


roflmao

Says the guy who hates the government while the nanny corporation that pays for his healthcare is subsidized by the government.

Tax-exempt municipal bonds are reserved for public-use projects such as bridges, water systems, and other infrastructure.

Not for fvcking billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes and tax loopholes.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Manbear still clearly doesn't understand the situation............

roflmao roflmao you are a joke. Everything you stated can exist without gubermint handouts, which you claim to hate.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 11:34 PM

These special deals undermine the rule of law

Tax law is law

If rich companies can negotiate lower taxes, why not rich individuals?

It’s BS

One law for everyone or anarchy
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 11:40 PM

Just read that Amazon paid $0 in Federal taxes on something like $12 billion in profits and that its effective state tax rate amounted to about 2%. Good thing Trump passed massive tax cuts to make sure they aren’t crushed by taxes. dancing

What tax rate did you guys pay this year?
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 11:49 PM

Flat tax, fire everybody in the IRS, done
Posted By: the janitor

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/17/19 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted By: the janitor


I don't know the details on this, was Amazon essentially trying to get the same sort of deal that NFL teams want when they try to get public financing for a new stadium/complex?


https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/16/18098589/amazon-hq2-nyc-queens-long-island-city-explained

Quote:
The agreement comes with a number of incentives: Specifically, Amazon will receive $897 million from the city’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP) and $386 million from the Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP). It will receive an additional $505 million in a capital grant and $1.2 billion in “Excelsior” credits if its job creation goals are met. That brings the total amount of public funds granted to $2.988 billion—in other words, the city and state will pay Amazon $48,000 per job.


Ahh, thanks! So not too different I guess.

Weird move and timing overall, this feels more like the sort of thing a massively successful company would pull in the middle of a deep recession.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 12:11 AM

That seems like a great deal!
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 12:14 AM

I hear that the Sandinista's in NYC are displeased with their Rogue Bartender.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 11:09 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.

No, you just don't want to admit your own hypocrisy.


roflmao

Says the guy who hates the government while the nanny corporation that pays for his healthcare is subsidized by the government.

Tax-exempt municipal bonds are reserved for public-use projects such as bridges, water systems, and other infrastructure.

Not for fvcking billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes and tax loopholes.

You can twist your words anyway you want to make yourself feel better about your own hypocrisy. Whether it is a municipal bond or a tax write-off, it is a government subsidy. Suckle on that teat small business

And I love how you keep mentioning healthcare out of nowhere. Jealousy is not a good look
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Flat tax, fire everybody in the IRS, done

Yup. Single page tax code, no deductions.
Posted By: everysurfr

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 12:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Everysurfer from the De Blasio thread
1. If Amazon did go to New York, they would have gotten 3 billion in tax breaks.
2. The government is "supposed" to run revenue neutral. Which means for every tax dollars the bring in, they spend it on stuff that supports that source of income. For example, when I build a house, I pay about $40,000 in fees. Those fees are supposed to cover the cost that a family will need in services. $20,000 in school fees says for the classroom that the owners will send their kids to. Same with roads, and water pipes, and sewer lines.
3. Amazon would not have paid those fees, while using the infrastructure.
4. I don't have access to New York's books, but it seems that it would have been a net loss to have then set up there.
5. Guys don't go on talk shows for free. Everyone has an angle. I would be willing to bet that someone was enticing de Blasio with "consulting fees" to publicize the Amazon party line.

Ifall, you seem inconsistent.

You seem to support Amazon taking the tax breaks, but also support a flat tax with no breaks.

You previously seemed libertarian, with let the marketplace sort it out over an even playing field, but now support an uneven playing field.

The jobs that Amazon will create come at a cost. Unemployment is low. The Amazon workers are small business owners, who can't compete on an uneven field, will loose there $100,000 a year small business owner income, and will become $30,000 A year Amazon Drones.

It really seems that you are upset thag a 29 year old girl is really out to drain the swamp, instead of your orange hero.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: everysurfr
Originally Posted By: Everysurfer from the De Blasio thread
1. If Amazon did go to New York, they would have gotten 3 billion in tax breaks.
2. The government is "supposed" to run revenue neutral. Which means for every tax dollars the bring in, they spend it on stuff that supports that source of income. For example, when I build a house, I pay about $40,000 in fees. Those fees are supposed to cover the cost that a family will need in services. $20,000 in school fees says for the classroom that the owners will send their kids to. Same with roads, and water pipes, and sewer lines.
3. Amazon would not have paid those fees, while using the infrastructure.
4. I don't have access to New York's books, but it seems that it would have been a net loss to have then set up there.
5. Guys don't go on talk shows for free. Everyone has an angle. I would be willing to bet that someone was enticing de Blasio with "consulting fees" to publicize the Amazon party line.

Ifall, you seem inconsistent.

You seem to support Amazon taking the tax breaks, but also support a flat tax with no breaks.

You previously seemed libertarian, with let the marketplace sort it out over an even playing field, but now support an uneven playing field.

The jobs that Amazon will create come at a cost. Unemployment is low. The Amazon workers are small business owners, who can't compete on an uneven field, will loose there $100,000 a year small business owner income, and will become $30,000 A year Amazon Drones.

It really seems that you are upset thag a 29 year old girl is really out to drain the swamp, instead of your orange hero.

Noting what Amazon is doing is by no means supporting it You can go back in this thread and read my replies to MBP to see I wrote this exact thing multiple times.

I agree with your statements about Amazon, however, you're starting to play the game like a bunch of other knuckleheads on here where you create things in your head about what I actually think.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 06:53 PM

dup
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/18/19 06:53 PM

I think ARC makes for a great albatross. Just like Trump.
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 02:39 AM

Quote:
...will loose there...


that's it, man.

I'm having a fkn abortion.

and afterwards, I'm going to kick a bunch of puppies.

HAVE YOU NO SHAME, SIR?!?!!?

FFS...
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
Quote:
...will loose there...


that's it, man.

I'm having a fkn abortion.

and afterwards, I'm going to kick a bunch of puppies.

HAVE YOU NO SHAME, SIR?!?!!?

FFS...


roflmao
Posted By: everysurfr

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
Quote:
...will loose there...


that's it, man.

I'm having a fkn abortion.

and afterwards, I'm going to kick a bunch of puppies.

HAVE YOU NO SHAME, SIR?!?!!?

FFS...
I also spelt that as "thag" I have big fooking fingers on a fucjing little phone , autocorrect on autopilot, and I dare you to have an abortion
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 04:14 PM

ahahahaha

<3 <3 <3

8======D ~ ~ ~
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Are they living by different rules than any other business? Or are they just doing the write-offs that everyone seems to think are ok?

We can argue what the tax code should and shouldn't be all day long, but in the context of what the tax code actually is, Amazon is just doing what every other business does


“Write-offs”, you think that’s what Bezos is doing? roflmao

I see you still don’t understand the difference between tax money funding corporations and expenditure write-offs.

No, you just don't want to admit your own hypocrisy.


roflmao

Says the guy who hates the government while the nanny corporation that pays for his healthcare is subsidized by the government.

Tax-exempt municipal bonds are reserved for public-use projects such as bridges, water systems, and other infrastructure.

Not for fvcking billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes and tax loopholes.

You can twist your words anyway you want to make yourself feel better about your own hypocrisy. Whether it is a municipal bond or a tax write-off, it is a government subsidy. Suckle on that teat small business

And I love how you keep mentioning healthcare out of nowhere. Jealousy is not a good look


I'm not a billionaire looking for tax breaks or avoiding to pay taxes all together fucktard.
I'm self employed and I pay taxes. I'm not tax exempt.
If I didn't write my expenses off I would be on the dole.

You are comparing me to a NFL team owner?

GTFO roflmao

There's absolutely nothing that you do or have that I can possibly be jealous of. barf
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 08:32 PM

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Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 09:47 PM

She looks cute there.

Working in a bar is a great job for a young person.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 09:49 PM

She'd be hot if she didn't have those fvcked-up weird New Yorker teeth.
Posted By: Kento

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
She'd be hot if she didn't have those fvcked-up weird New Yorker teeth.


She probably has the same dentist as that porn star Cindy Starfall.

And that chick in Dodgeball.
Posted By: afoaf

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 10:18 PM

New Yorker teeth are a thing?
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/19/19 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
New Yorker teeth are a thing?


I don't know tbh. I was thinking the same thing as I wrote it, but it sounded and felt right so I went with it. smokin
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/20/19 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: afoaf
New Yorker teeth are a thing?


I don't know tbh. I was thinking the same thing as I wrote it, but it sounded and felt right so I went with it. smokin


Antisemitism

dancing
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/20/19 01:51 AM

She's kind of bird lipped.

They look bigger in the picture.

Would still jizz on.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/20/19 01:56 AM

Honestly, I think this is just youth

She’s like a 6

Definitely do-able, but nothing remarkable
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/20/19 01:59 AM

Youth is a fitness cue.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/20/19 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Originally Posted By: sizzld1
Originally Posted By: afoaf
New Yorker teeth are a thing?


I don't know tbh. I was thinking the same thing as I wrote it, but it sounded and felt right so I went with it. smokin


Antisemitism

dancing


Is it? I was thinking more about Gary Dell'abate, but to each their own I guess.



Most of the Jewish people I know have nice teeth. shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: If 29yr old AOC is so stupid and unqualified - 02/21/19 11:39 AM

Clearly some here still don't understand the deal Perhaps this link will help:

https://nypost.com/2019/02/17/de-blasio-...lrcgqVWXh6KWKvE

De Blasio says Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn’t understand Amazon deal
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