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Can we talk about white supremacy?

Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:18 PM

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019...-ordinance.html
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:28 PM

Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.


You don't understand shit.

You're a fooking white male. You don't get to talk.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:37 PM

Did Fecal tell you to say that?
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:38 PM

Quote:
Speakers at the Saturday rally railed against the cityís ordinance, calling it a ďsecret lienĒ that would force landowners to ultimately sell to well-heeled private developers and lose out on loans or other financial services which would allow them to update their building to meet safety requirements.


Thatís some Alex Jones level conspiratard thinking right there...
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.


Gentrification.

I never understood whatís wrong with turning a shithole into a nice neighborhood.

But Iím a fooking white male so what do I know? People just throw money and opportunities at me because I have a medium sized light skinned penis....
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:46 PM

It does come with some inherent issues. Raised rent being the most obvious and subsequently pushing out communities. Itís not as simple as just move somewhere else anymore.

Itís counter intuitive.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:48 PM

roflmao

Full retard all around. Not surprising from Portland

This is a great illustration of the needless bullshit that people in government who think they are doing something well-meaning but just causes monetary waste (the signs) and social problems (idiots protesting idiot things). We're dealing with something that the government didn't even need to address, since anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that brick buildings are more liable to be damaged by earthquakes

BUT WHYTE SUPREMACY PEOPLE NEED SUNSCREEN AREN'T REEL MERICANS
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
It does come with some inherent issues. Raised rent being the most obvious and subsequently pushing out communities. Itís not as simple as just move somewhere else anymore.

Itís counter intuitive.

What's counter-intutitve?
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:51 PM

Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.
Posted By: 1whoknows

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 03:59 PM

These poor Portland renters remind me of poor West Virginia coal miners.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:
Speakers at the Saturday rally railed against the cityís ordinance, calling it a ďsecret lienĒ that would force landowners to ultimately sell to well-heeled private developers and lose out on loans or other financial services which would allow them to update their building to meet safety requirements.


Thatís some Alex Jones level conspiratard thinking right there...
I don't think that's entirely crazy- it'd be a great way pull the Eminent Domain trick (that Democrats are always want to do) without actually saying the words.

Either way, it is nice to see the "liberal-progressive" Industrial Complex eating itself alive.

Full disclosure, I am a pedigreed Aryan.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.


Yeah, everyone complains about how fucked up it is to live in a ďtough neiborhoodĒ but then when you pick up the trash, bust up the gangs and throw a coat of paint on it itís ďgentrificationĒ.

Wahhhh!
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:
Speakers at the Saturday rally railed against the cityís ordinance, calling it a ďsecret lienĒ that would force landowners to ultimately sell to well-heeled private developers and lose out on loans or other financial services which would allow them to update their building to meet safety requirements.


Thatís some Alex Jones level conspiratard thinking right there...
I don't think that's entirely crazy- it'd be a great way pull the Eminent Domain trick (that Democrats are always want to do) without actually saying the words.

Either way, it is nice to see the "liberal-progressive" Industrial Complex eating itself alive.


Where I live there are signs warning of ďhigh fireĒ areas and ďtsunami warningĒ areas. Those are, for the most part, in the wealthiest areas.

Must be ďthe manĒ trying to punish whitey.
Posted By: everysurfr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:29 PM

Nobody ever complains when the builder comes in, and offers the "person of color" a high price for their house before fixing it up.

If they don't like it, then fix it themselves, and stay put.
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:
Speakers at the Saturday rally railed against the cityís ordinance, calling it a ďsecret lienĒ that would force landowners to ultimately sell to well-heeled private developers and lose out on loans or other financial services which would allow them to update their building to meet safety requirements.


Thatís some Alex Jones level conspiratard thinking right there...
I don't think that's entirely crazy- it'd be a great way pull the Eminent Domain trick (that Democrats are always want to do) without actually saying the words.

Either way, it is nice to see the "liberal-progressive" Industrial Complex eating itself alive.


Where I live there are signs warning of ďhigh fireĒ areas and ďtsunami warningĒ areas. Those are, for the most part, in the wealthiest areas.

Must be ďthe manĒ trying to punish whitey.


Not punish but rich whitey knowing the gubment will bail him out when the natural disaster eventually comes.

Gentrification is just a natural social occurrence. It's good to invigorate stale communities but something positive is lost when those old communities are replaced. I have watched my little area of SF become gentrified over the past 14 years. Not sure I would choose again to live here the way it is now.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

Full retard all around. Not surprising from Portland

This is a great illustration of the needless bullshit that people in government who think they are doing something well-meaning but just causes monetary waste (the signs) and social problems (idiots protesting idiot things). We're dealing with something that the government didn't even need to address, since anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that brick buildings are more liable to be damaged by earthquakes

BUT WHYTE SUPREMACY PEOPLE NEED SUNSCREEN AREN'T REEL MERICANS



Nanny state meets identity politics.
Posted By: everysurfr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao
We're dealing with something that the government didn't even need to address, since anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that brick buildings are more liable to be damaged by earthquakes

BUT WHYTE SUPREMACY PEOPLE NEED SUNSCREEN AREN'T REEL MERICANS

If you read closer, it says unreinforced buildings.

It isn't always obvious which brick buildings are unreinforced, and which ones have been retrofitted.

Get a construction loan, retrofit the building, and raise the rent enough to cover the cost

I thought libertarians relied on a well informed consumer. You should be all for this
Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:41 PM

Does this mean Bonzer5Fin will be performing Night of the Living Rednecks at the next erBB benefit concert?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
roflmao

Full retard all around. Not surprising from Portland


That must be why Portland is consistently voted #1 liveable city in the US, while HB is #83.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.


Gentrification.

I never understood whatís wrong with turning a shithole into a nice neighborhood.


What's the use of the nice neighbourhood if nobody can afford to live there.

The poor consistently get pushed out to new ghettos.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work
Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks and partly represented the soul of LA.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


Except "the good" is just for selected few.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


Except "the good" is just for selected few.

You can say the same thing about the "bad"

It's only a selected few who have to move, and the economic revivals of areas that get gentrified affects a lot more people.

But I guess places are better off left like this

Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?


How natural do you find big money rolling in, interested in nothing but the almighty dollar?
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?


How natural do you find big money rolling in, interested in nothing but the almighty dollar?

Thatís the libertarian dream. $$$$ over freedom of the individual.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.

Objectively better







Posted By: hammies

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.

Objectively better



Yeah, but the Padres are objectively NOT better than they were 20 years ago.

Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot

Objectively better for the top 1%


Fixed.
Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: hammies
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.

Objectively better



Yeah, but the Padres are objectively NOT better than they were 20 years ago.



Petco Park is a very poor example of culture changing naturally. Its not like the city and stadium grew around each other together like some of the more historic stadiums in America.

Meh, this might be part of my gripe about the high-priced state of the art stadiums. All I want (and I know I'm not alone) is a good view of the game with reasonably priced food and beer, better yet if you can bring your own in (whether overtly or subtlely). Screw all the rest. Not worth dropping several hundred dollars for a family of 4.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:09 PM

The mechanism of redevelopment agencies that they used diverted resources and fees that would normally have gone towards the operations of the entire city into those specific neighborhoods.

I'm glad the city of SD didn't cave into the Chargers.
Posted By: mundus

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:09 PM

And the Taxpayers usually end up paying for the stadiums, not the ultra rich owners.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.

Objectively better








Itís still perspective based. shrug
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: hammies
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work

The weight of good vs bad 100% relies on perspective. Thatís how it actually works.

Objectively better



Yeah, but the Padres are objectively NOT better than they were 20 years ago.


This is a fact.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Kento

Petco Park is a very poor example of culture changing naturally. Its not like the city and stadium grew around each other together like some of the more historic stadiums in America.

Meh, this might be part of my gripe about the high-priced state of the art stadiums. All I want (and I know I'm not alone) is a good view of the game with reasonably priced food and beer, better yet if you can bring your own in (whether overtly or subtlely). Screw all the rest. Not worth dropping several hundred dollars for a family of 4.

I didn't even imply that was cultural change, it was gentrification for the better. That area of SD was a cesspool, now it's great.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: mundus
And the Taxpayers usually end up paying for the stadiums, not the ultra rich owners.

The point was the EVUL GENTRFIKATION of the area once the stadium was built.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Itís still perspective based. shrug

There's no one in the world that thinks a blighted area with struggling businesses is better than a thriving area
Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Kento

Petco Park is a very poor example of culture changing naturally. Its not like the city and stadium grew around each other together like some of the more historic stadiums in America.

Meh, this might be part of my gripe about the high-priced state of the art stadiums. All I want (and I know I'm not alone) is a good view of the game with reasonably priced food and beer, better yet if you can bring your own in (whether overtly or subtlely). Screw all the rest. Not worth dropping several hundred dollars for a family of 4.

I didn't even imply that was cultural change, it was gentrification for the better. That area of SD was a cesspool, now it's great.


Not to mention an environmental disaster in a lot of areas there. It has improved - Gaslamp isn't really my style but I'll grant you that.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Itís still perspective based. shrug

There's no one in the world that thinks a blighted area with struggling businesses is better than a thriving area

Those who can no longer afford rent will think otherwise. It even has downsides for non residents.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Itís still perspective based. shrug

There's no one in the world that thinks a blighted area with struggling businesses is better than a thriving area


Thriving for few ≠ Thriving
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The mechanism of redevelopment agencies that they used diverted resources and fees that would normally have gone towards the operations of the entire city into those specific neighborhoods.

I'm glad the city of SD didn't cave into the Chargers.


Every city should tell NFL to fvck off.

It's mind boggling that taxpayer is subsidizing that idiocy.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 07:28 PM

I live in a neighborhood that was "Gentrified" so to speak about 15 years ago. When I got out of college I had no real money but wanted to buy a house. I really wanted to be near the beach. An opportunity fell in my lap to buy a storm damaged house in a predominantly african american neighborhood. House was good sized on a nice sized lot, I could ride my bike to surf and paid next to nothing for the house and just about nothing in property taxes. When I bought the house I didn't realize the problems that surrounded it. All I saw was how cheap I could buy it for and how short the bike ride was to one of my favorite surf spots. This was during the crack epidemic of the early 90s. We had a crack house two doors away and across the street a dumpy luncheonette with a payphone outside. We could lay in bed at night and listen to the desperate addicts on the payphone trying to score a fix. Tons of stories I could tell. There were numerous flop houses and abandoned houses around me. Frequent fights in the street, bottle throwing, trash everywhere. It was a really dumpy neighborhood. By the late 90s were were thinking about starting a family and planned on selling and moving if things didn't start improving quickly. Luckily they did.

Couple of things started happening.

First: By the late 90s there was a big influx of Mexican construction workers into the town that came with the building boom that was just beginning. The Mexicans gobbled up all of the rental properties around me that had been section 8 and problem rentals. The Mexicans literally squeezed out most of the drug addicts and problem individuals and were good neighbors not bothering anyone. They would pay good money to the landdlords and were good tenants compared to what had been there before. If anything their landlords were probably over charging them because they could.

Second: By the early 2000s the building boom reached my forgotten neighborhood. I am one of only a handful of property owners in the neighborhood since the early 90s not to sell. These dummies took offers as low as $15,000-$30,000 for their houses and lots. The developer who bought up all these properties then approached me to rally some of my neighbors to help him get a variance so he could subdivide the properties. For me and my neighbors this would mean that our single lots would become double lots on the zoning map. The zoning change was approved. Within 1 year there were 9 new beautiful beach houses built on my street. The luncheonette across the street was torn down and replaced with 3 single family homes. Cha Ching for everyone who stayed the course and didn't sell out!!!!

Some of the remaining few african american neighbors who remain have made resentful racist comments about all the changes to the neighborhood at the same time they have reaped huge economic and lifestyle rewards for having those changes take place. If I were to put my property on the market today it would sell for many times what I paid for it in the early 90s.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.


Gentrification.

I never understood whatís wrong with turning a shithole into a nice neighborhood.


What's the use of the nice neighbourhood if nobody can afford to live there.

The poor consistently get pushed out to new ghettos.


Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks and partly represented the soul of LA.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes


I remember LA being a shithole.

Itís still a shithole.

I remember working in Gardena and having to be protected by armed security (clientís choice, not mine). Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Itís still perspective based. shrug

There's no one in the world that thinks a blighted area with struggling businesses is better than a thriving area

Those who can no longer afford rent will think otherwise. It even has downsides for non residents.


Keep Da Shitholes Shitty!
Posted By: Kento

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Gentrification. On surface itís all good, and one would think making a shitty area nice is all butterflies and unicorns, but itís not.

Nothing is butterflies and unicorns. However the good outweighs the bad. Its just the way things work


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks and partly represented the soul of LA.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes


I remember LA being a shithole.

Itís still a shithole.

I remember working in Gardena and having to be protected by armed security (clientís choice, not mine). Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.


Little melodramatic? roflmao
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 09:10 PM

Weird, I've been to LA plenty of times and did not die?

Watch out though I hear Malibu is real fooking sketch though. You're in the jungle there!
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Weird, I've been to LA plenty of times and did not die?

Watch out though I hear Malibu is real fooking sketch though. You're in the jungle there!


Yeah itís fine now. Thatís the point.

Back in the 80s and 90s some parts were legit dangerous.

One could say itís been gentrified.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 09:42 PM

ď Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.Ē

????
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Quote:
They argue the policy will force artificially low sales prices for properties


Well I think theyíre right about this and the resulting gentrification.

But I donít see red lining or discriminating acts based on what the article says alone. Seems like they are over sensitive to past practices, which is understandable.


Gentrification.

I never understood whatís wrong with turning a shithole into a nice neighborhood.


What's the use of the nice neighbourhood if nobody can afford to live there.

The poor consistently get pushed out to new ghettos.


Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.


Oh yeah all poor people are dirty and spray graffiti and dump trash everywhere.

Fucktard.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
ď Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.Ē

????


Sorry. Double negative.

Iíll go anywhere in LA alone and unarmed.

IE: Thereís nowhere I wonít go.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:20 PM

That one hurt my brain. Reading comprehension fail.
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:25 PM

Quote:

Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.


Quote:
Oh yeah all poor people are dirty and spray graffiti and dump trash everywhere.

Fucktard.


What is it with you? Read the fooking sentence. A neighborhood can be nice and inexpensive.

Iím saying that just because youíre poor and your neighborhood is poor that doesnít mean itís automatically a shithole. Poverty doesnít make a poor neighborhood into a ghetto.

Shitty people do. Being poor doesnít make you a litter bug. Being poor doesnít make you tag walls.

Being a shitty person does those things.

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what I write or do you have some sort of disability that precludes you from properly comprehending the written word?
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:26 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
That one hurt my brain. Reading comprehension fail.


Yeah, it was clunky.

shrug
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:

Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.


Quote:
Oh yeah all poor people are dirty and spray graffiti and dump trash everywhere.

Fucktard.


What is it with you? Read the fooking sentence. A neighborhood can be nice and inexpensive.

Iím saying that just because youíre poor and your neighborhood is poor that doesnít mean itís automatically a shithole. Poverty doesnít make a poor neighborhood into a ghetto.

Shitty people do. Being poor doesnít make you a litter bug. Being poor doesnít make you tag walls.

Being a shitty person does those things.

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what I write or do you have some sort of disability that precludes you from properly comprehending the written word?


Gentrification, by definition is "the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

Nowhere does it say anything about trash and graffiti. Not all gentrified areas are dirty shitholes.
The distinction is that they are affordable.

Nice stereotype tho.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:36 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Kento


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?


How natural do you find big money rolling in, interested in nothing but the almighty dollar?

Thatís the libertarian dream. $$$$ over freedom of the individual.


foreheadslap crazy2 hah

Libertarianism is about $$$$$ over freedom of the individual?

The core tenant of Libertarianism IS the individual, dummy.

Libertarianism favors the individual over everything else. That's why they're despised by Democrats and Republicans.

Most people are rather uncomfortable with the thought of self-ownership
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:

Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.


Quote:
Oh yeah all poor people are dirty and spray graffiti and dump trash everywhere.

Fucktard.


What is it with you? Read the fooking sentence. A neighborhood can be nice and inexpensive.

Iím saying that just because youíre poor and your neighborhood is poor that doesnít mean itís automatically a shithole. Poverty doesnít make a poor neighborhood into a ghetto.

Shitty people do. Being poor doesnít make you a litter bug. Being poor doesnít make you tag walls.

Being a shitty person does those things.

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what I write or do you have some sort of disability that precludes you from properly comprehending the written word?


Gentrification, by definition is "the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

Nowhere does it say anything about trash and graffiti. Not all gentrified areas are dirty shitholes.
The distinction is that they are affordable.

Nice stereotype tho.


Weren't you on here singing the praises of Miami a few weeks back?

Miami is gentrification heaven/hell. Massive gentrification over the past 10 or so years. Especially the places where FaecalFaces lurk about.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:51 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: Kento


For long-time residents of LA, how many of you remember the burger stands/shanties in downtown? Greasy tin shacks, about 120 degrees inside, but awesomely good. I find it sad that they got zoned/gentrified out of existence. They were all but cultural landmarks.

Yeah, downtown has gotten "cleaned up" (more like the homeless got shifted east a few blocks) but is it really better? Maybe it's because I don't give a shit about tourist/transplant clubs/bars where one might see a Kardashian(!) but I think the homogenization is terrible and very dull.

Let me guess, the new developments will be mixed use with apartments on top and Panda Express, Chipotle, and Peet's Coffee on the ground floor? rolleyes

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?


How natural do you find big money rolling in, interested in nothing but the almighty dollar?

Thatís the libertarian dream. $$$$ over freedom of the individual.


foreheadslap crazy2 hah

Libertarianism is about $$$$$ over freedom of the individual?

The core tenant of Libertarianism IS the individual, dummy.

Libertarianism favors the individual over everything else. That's why they're despised by Democrats and Republicans.

Most people are rather uncomfortable with the thought of self-ownership


Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$
Posted By: afoaf

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/06/19 11:57 PM

I think you meant to say "subjectively better"
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 12:31 AM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: ifallalot

Homogenization sucks, but the new ghettoes are going to develop their own new cultural landmarks

Should something always be frozen in time? Or should culture be allowed to develop naturally?


How natural do you find big money rolling in, interested in nothing but the almighty dollar?

Thatís the libertarian dream. $$$$ over freedom of the individual.


foreheadslap crazy2 hah

Libertarianism is about $$$$$ over freedom of the individual?

The core tenant of Libertarianism IS the individual, dummy.

Libertarianism favors the individual over everything else. That's why they're despised by Democrats and Republicans.

Most people are rather uncomfortable with the thought of self-ownership


Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$


Wait, what? confused2 socrazy roflmao
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 12:33 AM

See below.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think you meant to say "subjectively better"


I think you meant to pay the Sarah Sanders bet?
Posted By: Duffy

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Quote:

Itís possible to be poor and not dump trash and graffiti all over your neighborhood. Ghettos are ghettos because those that inhabit them make them ghettos.

Again, it is possible to be poor and clean.


Quote:
Oh yeah all poor people are dirty and spray graffiti and dump trash everywhere.

Fucktard.


What is it with you? Read the fooking sentence. A neighborhood can be nice and inexpensive.

Iím saying that just because youíre poor and your neighborhood is poor that doesnít mean itís automatically a shithole. Poverty doesnít make a poor neighborhood into a ghetto.

Shitty people do. Being poor doesnít make you a litter bug. Being poor doesnít make you tag walls.

Being a shitty person does those things.

Are you purposefully misrepresenting what I write or do you have some sort of disability that precludes you from properly comprehending the written word?


Gentrification, by definition is "the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.

Nowhere does it say anything about trash and graffiti. Not all gentrified areas are dirty shitholes.
The distinction is that they are affordable.

Nice stereotype tho.


You arenít even in the same reality that I am. Youíre (once again) arguing against something I didnít say.

See ya.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 01:31 AM

More like, you're pretending that you didn't say things you've said.

Somehow, it's always somebody else's reading comprehension.

Like you've said that snatching children from their parents is "most humane".

Than you said didn't say it.

Except you did.

Bye.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think you meant to say "subjectively better"


I think you meant to pay the Sarah Sanders bet?


He's giving you the gift of playing the nagging loan collector, which I imagine for a guy with your disposition is sweeter than the actual 50 dollars.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think you meant to say "subjectively better"


I think you meant to pay the Sarah Sanders bet?


He's giving you the gift of playing the nagging loan collector, which I imagine for a guy with your disposition is sweeter than the actual 50 dollars.


Coming from the guy who claims betting takes balls, and even more to pay off. pokestick
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think you meant to say "subjectively better"


I think you meant to pay the Sarah Sanders bet?


He's giving you the gift of playing the nagging loan collector, which I imagine for a guy with your disposition is sweeter than the actual 50 dollars.


Coming from the guy who claims betting takes balls, and even more to pay off. pokestick


As usual, you make no sense.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoparx
I got the feeling Surfdog is too tight with his money to not bet if there is a chance he can lose.

But that is the fun of betting.


>> https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2809495#Post2809495 <<

Autoprax convenient memory loss.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 06:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoparx
I got the feeling Surfdog is too tight with his money to not bet if there is a chance he can lose.

But that is the fun of betting.


>> https://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2809495#Post2809495 <<

Autoprax convenient memory loss.


I forget nothing.

I predict Afoaf will give you your money, but you will use this space between now and then to wuss leak hard.

Wahh wah wah, I'm a sore winner!

Got it, dummy?

Am I making it clear enough for you?

If he doesn't pay you, i will if you will just STFU. monkey

Sound like a plan?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 07:28 AM

Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 11:22 AM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
I think you meant to say "subjectively better"

No. I know what I meant. rock
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?


I gave the example from my own neighborhood in the late 90s and early 2000s. Those people who sold out thought they were making great coin by selling out at the time, some for as little as $15-$30K. Hind sight being 2020 the people who really made out are the small handful of about 5 households that stuck it out. Those properties are now worth north of $300K just for the value of the dirt.

I have one smart neighbor who sold her property to the developer in exchange for one of the brand new houses. She could sell that house today for about half a million. She had been living in a ramshackle 1,000 sq/ft shack prior.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?


I gave the example from my own neighborhood in the late 90s and early 2000s. Those people who sold out thought they were making great coin by selling out at the time, some for as little as $15-$30K. Hind sight being 2020 the people who really made out are the small handful of about 5 households that stuck it out. Those properties are now worth north of $300K just for the value of the dirt.

I have one smart neighbor who sold her property to the developer in exchange for one of the brand new houses. She could sell that house today for about half a million. She had been living in a ramshackle 1,000 sq/ft shack prior.

But would have those prices ever risen if there was no gentrification?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot

But would have those prices ever risen if there was no gentrification?


Only to keep pace with inflation. These lots are now worth probably 5 times the rate of inflation compared to what they were worth 25 years ago.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?



Ghettos are excellent opportunities for taking photos of unknowing poor black people. As frvcvs has shown us. roflmao
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


How are the slums you rent doing this winter?
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism


manbearpig. big on blabber, low on brains,
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: ifallalot

But would have those prices ever risen if there was no gentrification?


Only to keep pace with inflation. These lots are now worth probably 5 times the rate of inflation compared to what they were worth 25 years ago.


I'd say if you can find a run down neighborhood in need of gentrification near the ocean and have 25 years to wait it would be a great investment. My father once told me that you can't go wrong buying real estate near the water because the demand will always be there. That definitely paid off for me.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism


manbearpig. big on blabber, low on brains,

Says the guy who is encompassed by this place. laughingpointing
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?



Ghettos are excellent opportunities for taking photos of unknowing poor black people. As frvcvs has shown us. roflmao

"Street photography" roflmao
Posted By: RWVBWL

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: ifallalot

But would have those prices ever risen if there was no gentrification?


Only to keep pace with inflation. These lots are now worth probably 5 times the rate of inflation compared to what they were worth 25 years ago.


I'd say if you can find a run down neighborhood in need of gentrification near the ocean and have 25 years to wait it would be a great investment. My father once told me that you can't go wrong buying real estate near the water because the demand will always be there. That definitely paid off for me.


Hiya Gromsdad,
Thanks for sharin' story, Stocked for ya man, glad ya went for it! smile
Wish I'd have done the same back when I was younger + bought some~thing instead of renting on the outskirts of thee Venice Beach ghetto when it was still kinda cheap in the '80's, even into the '90's...
wave2
Posted By: NDG80

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Duffy
Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.


foreheadslap
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism

No Iím actually making a comment on your version of libertarianism.

Nah, what you see as "valuing money" is still valuing the individual. If someone is disallowed from using their money to "gentrify" an area in order to favor the individuals who already live their those individuals are getting special treatment. People are free to buy and sell as they please, equally.

The most basic maxim is don't hurt people, don't take their stuff. Preventing someone from selling property in an area that is about to be "gentrified" in order to protect the people that already live there is effectively taking their stuff because its taking away the freedom to buy and sell as they please.

Most people in poor areas rent, but some own. Let's say some of those poor people had a chance to sell their property and make money to a developer that's going to "gentrify" the area, are you going to disallow them from selling so the area remains as is? So upper class liberals can have their little anthropological project in the ghetto?


people are not 'their stuff'. or anyones stuff for that matter.
freedom is not doing anything because you have money.

worshiping the $ historically ends badly.

I am not sure if your sentence construction is so bad making it difficult to understand what you write or you need to go back and play w/ some blocks, using some sorting activities to workout some fundamental tenets of modern society.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:38 PM

Or it could just be you read at a 7th grade level

The fact that you got worshipping money out of any of that? roflmao
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 03:49 PM

Or maybe youíre just terrible at conveying what you mean clearly, or accurately to what you claim. roflmao
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism


manbearpig. big on blabber, low on brains,

Says the guy who is encompassed by this place. laughingpointing


lol!

You're at 12,000-something posts and pumping out insults here on a daily basis...yet you're still under the impression you're somehow different than the rest of us. rolleyes hah
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:08 PM

No, never claimed that. Thatís the strange illusion that you seem to have. Keep it up!
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:13 PM

Right. Can we get another post from you telling people they're naughty for personal insults?

I love when you make those posts. monkey
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:24 PM

You trying to play moral compass of the Errb always gives me a good laugh stalker man. Remember when you used to insult peopleís kids? Whatís it been like a month since you last pulled that kind of crap? Or your weird sexual fantasies? The Caca double standard.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: manbearpig
You trying to play moral compass of the Errb always gives me a good laugh


Play moral compass? Since when? LOL! I've encouraged the debauchery...except when it's come to posting weird sexual stuff about people's kids.


Quote:
stalker man.


If stalking is reposting what's been posted I'm guilty! smile

Apparently you've missed the real stalking that's gone on here, like posting people's home addresses, writing letters to their employers, contacting government agencies in hopes of having them removed from their positions, posting their business info, etc. rolleyes

I don't have the tools or the inclination.

Quote:
Remember when you used to insult peopleís kids? Whatís it been like a month since you last pulled that kind of crap?


No, I don't remember.

Link?


Quote:
Or your weird sexual fantasies?


So the lifestyle you engage in is now a weird sexual fantasy?

Don't be so hard on yourself.

But don't come crying to me when you're in nappies at age 30. bawling

Quote:
The Caca double standard.


What double standard?

I'm as guilty as anyone!

I've been throwing insults at you all morning.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:43 PM

So much thought put into that one, donít hurt yourself. Maybe see a doctor about your short term memory loss wave2
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:44 PM

Scamper away. wave2
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 04:56 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Or it could just be you read at a 7th grade level

The fact that you got worshipping money out of any of that? roflmao


I put your passage in a data analysis program, not that these tests mean much but...

Overall the passage scored at the 7th grade level. LOL The Gunning Fog Metric came out as ĎDifficultí. Measures clarity.

I guess writing like YouTube gurus speak with vagaries of overlapping circular logic is kwul.

I already concede all my writings would score at the 3rd/4th grade level, on a good day and sober.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


BS. Your comment confirms a lot, thank you.

I didn't initiate the bet. Many lefty's here challenged me to put my money where my mouth was (see link to original post above towards Autoprax). So, I did, proudly. I honor my commitments, unlike some here it seems.

If I lost the bet, I'd be getting ALL kinds of crap and goading from the welching lefty's here about it, and to pay up.

I pegged a few afoaf posts, just to see how many would defend welching, and they took the bait. monkey

FF is a ends justifies the means guy, so welching on bets is probably par for the course for him. His honor to commitments are known BS.

If it helps you feel better afoaf, I'll donate your bet to a worthy charity, like Disabled American Vets or Wounder Warriors (though that may piss you and many lefty's here off even more nana ) .

In fact, I'll match it with my own $50 to make it a $100 donation. And will prove it if need be.

I don't need the bet $$ myself, and could care less either way how it went. But I'd honor it within a few days, and be done with it. Ask any condo renter about returned deposits honored here.

I'd have no problem paying it up, but some here seem to be all hat and no cattle. pokestick

Don't initiate and make bets, if you're not going to be honorable about it, Claimers.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:03 PM

https://datayze.com/readability-analyzer.php
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta


to bad AI hasn't developed to measure integrity.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta


to bad AI hasn't developed to measure integrity.


Where would you score?
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta


to bad AI hasn't developed to measure integrity.


Where would you score?


you really need to be told to make your own decisions, weirdness. If you need a metric for yourself maybe you should listen to the other humans you interact with and take into account what they say.

Not so much let an AI program tell you how human you are roflmao
Posted By: mundus

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


BS. Your comment confirms a lot, thank you.

I didn't initiate the bet. Many lefty's here challenged me to put my money where my mouth was (see link to original post above towards Autoprax). So, I did, proudly. I honor my commitments, unlike some here it seems.

If I lost the bet, I'd be getting ALL kinds of crap and goading from the welching lefty's here about it, and to pay up.

I pegged a few afoaf posts, just to see how many would defend welching, and they took the bait. monkey

FF is a ends justifies the means guy, so welching on bets is probably par for the course for him. His honor to commitments are known BS.

If it helps you feel better afoaf, I'll donate your bet to a worthy charity, like Disabled American Vets or Wounder Warriors (though that may piss you and many lefty's here off even more nana ) .

In fact, I'll match it with my own $50 to make it a $100 donation. And will prove it if need be.

I don't need the bet $$ myself, and could care less either way how it went. But I'd honor it within a few days, and be done with it. Ask any condo renter about returned deposits honored here.

I'd have no problem paying it up, but some here seem to be all hat and no cattle. pokestick

Don't initiate and take bets, if you're not going to be honorable about it, Claimers.
Have to agree, you deserve to be paid, even though I disagree with just about every thing you post.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Or it could just be you read at a 7th grade level

The fact that you got worshipping money out of any of that? roflmao


I put your passage in a data analysis program, not that these tests mean much but...

Overall the passage scored at the 7th grade level. LOL The Gunning Fog Metric came out as ĎDifficultí. Measures clarity.

I guess writing like YouTube gurus speak with vagaries of overlapping circular logic is kwul.

I already concede all my writings would score at the 3rd/4th grade level, on a good day and sober.

What it all really means is that you can't argue against any of my assertions and are instead trying to attack my writing style. There's zero circular logic in that post, I guess you need bullet lists and drawings to help you understand better

YouTube? roflmao
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta


to bad AI hasn't developed to measure integrity.


Where would you score?


you really need to be told to make your own decisions, weirdness. If you need a metric for yourself maybe you should listen to the other humans you interact with and take into account what they say.

Not so much let an AI program tell you how human you are roflmao


It matters.
Silicon Valley folks are thee measure of integrity
They are the visionaries behind AI
They are the guardians and leaders of the future.
I really want to fit into their worldview.
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: heelnipstr
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Or it could just be you read at a 7th grade level

The fact that you got worshipping money out of any of that? roflmao


I put your passage in a data analysis program, not that these tests mean much but...

Overall the passage scored at the 7th grade level. LOL The Gunning Fog Metric came out as ĎDifficultí. Measures clarity.

I guess writing like YouTube gurus speak with vagaries of overlapping circular logic is kwul.

I already concede all my writings would score at the 3rd/4th grade level, on a good day and sober.

What it all really means is that you can't argue against any of my assertions and are instead trying to attack my writing style. There's zero circular logic in that post, I guess you need bullet lists and drawings to help you understand better

YouTube? roflmao


yes please. Since you offered please provide an outline and your definitions of:
-freedom
-value
-property
-responsibilities and roles of gov and individual concerning the topic

How do these notions relate to each other?

Also include a lot of colors and -------->, pictures.

If you need a internet reference on how to do it you should refer to japsondope, expert level.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism



Let's see, hmmm.

"Neo-fascism is a postĖWorld War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, authoritarianism, nativism and opposition to immigration, as well as opposition to liberal democracy, parliamentarianism, Marxism, Communism and socialism. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some postĖWorld War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination with and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.

Post-fascism is a label that has been applied to several European political parties that espouse a modified form of fascism and which partake in constitutional politics.[1][2]"

1) Ultranationalism - CHECK

2) Populism - CHECK

3) Authoritarianism - CHECK

4) Nativism and opposition to immigration - CHECK

5) Opposition to Liberal Democracy and Soshualism - CHECK


You're a Neo-Fash POS.


Change my mind.

Posted By: StuAzole

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: NDG80
Originally Posted By: Duffy
Now there isnít one single speck of land in the Greater Los Ńngeles area that I will not go into alone and unarmed.


foreheadslap


LOL, seriously, the fear factor is off the charts with that one.

The WALL should fix it though. Oh, and no more MUZLIMZ!
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


BS. Your comment confirms a lot, thank you.

I didn't initiate the bet. Many lefty's here challenged me to put my money where my mouth was (see link to original post above towards Autoprax). So, I did, proudly. I honor my commitments, unlike some here it seems.

If I lost the bet, I'd be getting ALL kinds of crap and goading from the welching lefty's here about it, and to pay up.

I pegged a few afoaf posts, just to see how many would defend welching, and they took the bait. monkey

FF is a ends justifies the means guy, so welching on bets is probably par for the course for him. His honor to commitments are known BS.

If it helps you feel better afoaf, I'll donate your bet to a worthy charity, like Disabled American Vets or Wounder Warriors (though that may piss you and many lefty's here off even more nana ) .

In fact, I'll match it with my own $50 to make it a $100 donation. And will prove it if need be.

I don't need the bet $$ myself, and could care less either way how it went. But I'd honor it within a few days, and be done with it. Ask any condo renter about returned deposits honored here.

I'd have no problem paying it up, but some here seem to be all hat and no cattle. pokestick

Don't initiate and make bets, if you're not going to be honorable about it, Claimers.


If you get paid .18 of the money you're owed, how much will you have? What if instead you just get paid 18% of what you're owed?
Posted By: Mr Doof

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


Hey, I am still willing to pay you the $1 I lost (regarding Trump being elected)...I am serious about my $1 bets (because that is the amount of pain I can take when I lose).
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


BS. Your comment confirms a lot, thank you.

I didn't initiate the bet. Many lefty's here challenged me to put my money where my mouth was (see link to original post above towards Autoprax). So, I did, proudly. I honor my commitments, unlike some here it seems.

If I lost the bet, I'd be getting ALL kinds of crap and goading from the welching lefty's here about it, and to pay up.

I pegged a few afoaf posts, just to see how many would defend welching, and they took the bait. monkey

FF is a ends justifies the means guy, so welching on bets is probably par for the course for him. His honor to commitments are known BS.

If it helps you feel better afoaf, I'll donate your bet to a worthy charity, like Disabled American Vets or Wounder Warriors (though that may piss you and many lefty's here off even more nana ) .

In fact, I'll match it with my own $50 to make it a $100 donation. And will prove it if need be.

I don't need the bet $$ myself, and could care less either way how it went. But I'd honor it within a few days, and be done with it. Ask any condo renter about returned deposits honored here.

I'd have no problem paying it up, but some here seem to be all hat and no cattle. pokestick

Don't initiate and make bets, if you're not going to be honorable about it, Claimers.


Well, that confirms a lot about you.

I won bets from Autoprax and MrDoof before, they both insisted on paying me, I couldn't take the money.

It's not because I'm better than evebrybody but because I'd feel ridiculous if I did. I cringe at the thought of it.

So yeah douchť move.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/07/19 11:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Mr Doof
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


Hey, I am still willing to pay you the $1 I lost (regarding Trump being elected)...I am serious about my $1 bets (because that is the amount of pain I can take when I lose).


Haha, I forgot it was only $1, in my head it was $10.

You two almost sounded as offended as Surfdog when I didn't take your money.

If it was $50, maybe I'd take it. smile2
Posted By: afoaf

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 12:00 AM

I disagree.

he should take the money.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: manbearpig
Yet time and time again the libertards prove the contrary of valuing the individual over $$$

roflmao

You have about as much grasp on what libertarianism is as Fecal does on fascism



Let's see, hmmm.

"Neo-fascism is a postĖWorld War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, authoritarianism, nativism and opposition to immigration, as well as opposition to liberal democracy, parliamentarianism, Marxism, Communism and socialism. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some postĖWorld War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination with and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.

Post-fascism is a label that has been applied to several European political parties that espouse a modified form of fascism and which partake in constitutional politics.[1][2]"

1) Ultranationalism - CHECK

2) Populism - CHECK

3) Authoritarianism - CHECK

4) Nativism and opposition to immigration - CHECK

5) Opposition to Liberal Democracy and Soshualism - CHECK


You're a Neo-Fash POS.


Change my mind.


roflmao

Wrong on all counts but one

1. Patriotism isn't ultranationalism, let alone nationalism
2. Populism- anyone who opposed to populism is opposed to democracy. Vox populi, Vox Dei
3. roflmao roflmao roflmao How can someone opposed to government and a fierce defender of individualism be authoritarian?
4, Not opposed to immigration, nor am I a nativist in any way. Its impossible to be a nativist in the US
5. Opposition to socialism? Absolutely. That's because I'm a proponent of real liberal democracy. (ps- "liberal" means something different than the US definition. We're talking classic, Enlightenment liberalism)

Nice try, once again
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 12:07 AM

So I was right about every single definition including authoritarianism

You are opposed to government but you think transexuals should not be accepted "in any walk of life" and that equal rights for blacks and gays is "special treatment".

Yes, you are fvcking ultranationalist POS.

Screeching WEST IS BEST, WE BUILT THIS, WESTERN KULTUR and being a proud Western chauvinist is nothing to do with patriotism.

Screeching for Muslim ban doesn't make you immigrant friendly either.

And you're a nativist thru and thru. GDaddy too. Spewing shit about INCOPATIBL KULTUR and claiming you're not a nativist is fvcking rich.

You are defying every factual definition and trying to contort it to make your neo-fash vomit sound acceptable.

It's not.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Mr Doof
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


Hey, I am still willing to pay you the $1 I lost (regarding Trump being elected)...I am serious about my $1 bets (because that is the amount of pain I can take when I lose).


pussy monkey
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 03:34 AM

Originally Posted By: afoaf
I disagree.

he should take the money.




I know.

Though the fact that you're offering to pay is just more of a reason not to take it.

The glee of the win would be enough for me. hat


But Surfdog will take it.

Climate change denial research is expensive.

Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
So I was right about every single definition including authoritarianism

You are opposed to government but you think transexuals should not be accepted "in any walk of life" and that equal rights for blacks and gays is "special treatment".

Yes, you are fvcking ultranationalist POS.

Screeching WEST IS BEST, WE BUILT THIS, WESTERN KULTUR and being a proud Western chauvinist is nothing to do with patriotism.

Screeching for Muslim ban doesn't make you immigrant friendly either.

And you're a nativist thru and thru. GDaddy too. Spewing shit about INCOPATIBL KULTUR and claiming you're not a nativist is fvcking rich.

You are defying every factual definition and trying to contort it to make your neo-fash vomit sound acceptable.

It's not.

roflmao

The truth is not what you create in your head. You're insane
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
So I was right about every single definition including authoritarianism

You are opposed to government but you think transexuals should not be accepted "in any walk of life" and that equal rights for blacks and gays is "special treatment".

Yes, you are fvcking ultranationalist POS.

Screeching WEST IS BEST, WE BUILT THIS, WESTERN KULTUR and being a proud Western chauvinist is nothing to do with patriotism.

Screeching for Muslim ban doesn't make you immigrant friendly either.

And you're a nativist thru and thru. GDaddy too. Spewing shit about INCOPATIBL KULTUR and claiming you're not a nativist is fvcking rich.

You are defying every factual definition and trying to contort it to make your neo-fash vomit sound acceptable.

It's not.

roflmao

The truth is not what you create in your head. You're insane


No, the truth is what comes out of your mouth.

Youíre delusional.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 02:38 PM

I know you are but what am I?
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I disagree.

he should take the money.




I know.

Though the fact that you're offering to pay is just more of a reason not to take it.

The glee of the win would be enough for me. hat


But Surfdog will take it.

Climate change denial research is expensive.



If he only bet $1 I'd say keep it too. There's no conviction in that kind of claim/wager.

afoaf was honorable about it, and made it clear the day it came due (though I did remind him it was coming up a week or so ahead, and 2 months prior, just to poke).

You did notice that I decided on using his $50 bet, and matching my own $50 as a donation to Disabled American Veterans, right? That wasn't part of the original bet.

I think anyone willing to bet quite a bit more than a wimpy $1 should donate their winnings to a worthy charity. Should be erBB rules, but that's just me,
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I disagree.

he should take the money.




I know.

Though the fact that you're offering to pay is just more of a reason not to take it.

The glee of the win would be enough for me. hat


But Surfdog will take it.

Climate change denial research is expensive.



If he only bet $1 I'd say keep it too. There's no conviction in that kind of claim/wager.

afoaf was honorable about it, and made it clear the day it came due (though I did remind him it was coming up a week or so ahead, and 2 months prior, just to poke).

You did notice that I decided on using his $50 bet, and matching my own $50 as a donation to Disabled American Veterans, right? That wasn't part of the original bet.

I think anyone willing to bet quite a bit more than a wimpy $1 should donate their winnings to a worthy charity. Should be erBB rules, but that's just me,


Righteousness on parade.



The day you make a post w/o singing your own praises, what a day that will be.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: afoaf
I disagree.

he should take the money.




I know.

Though the fact that you're offering to pay is just more of a reason not to take it.

The glee of the win would be enough for me. hat


But Surfdog will take it.

Climate change denial research is expensive.



If he only bet $1 I'd say keep it too. There's no conviction in that kind of claim/wager.

afoaf was honorable about it, and made it clear the day it came due (though I did remind him it was coming up a week or so ahead, and 2 months prior, just to poke).

You did notice that I decided on using his $50 bet, and matching my own $50 as a donation to Disabled American Veterans, right? That wasn't part of the original bet.

I think anyone willing to bet quite a bit more than a wimpy $1 should donate their winnings to a worthy charity. Should be erBB rules, but that's just me,


Or you could have just donated $100 of your own money instead. poke

Imagine how much virtue signaling you could do then.
Posted By: Mr Doof

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 09:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: Mr Doof
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Anybody who would take erBB bet seriously is a special kind of douchť.

Do you need $50 that badly?

Your Kauai AirBnB not renting well this winter? bawling


Hey, I am still willing to pay you the $1 I lost (regarding Trump being elected)...I am serious about my $1 bets (because that is the amount of pain I can take when I lose).


pussy monkey


cheers

You try having a mortgage in San Francisco......

Posted By: Mr Doof

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/08/19 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
If he only bet $1 I'd say keep it too. There's no conviction in that kind of claim/wager.


Aw....I very much value my money.

Heck, I pick up pennies in the street still, though maybe that may make me a filthy penny pincher.

I mean, I get what you are saying, how much conviction is behind a dollar bet, but at the same time, I really want to be honorable and pay my obligations.

So the easier I make it to be honorable, the better I can handle the loss and pay up.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 03:49 PM

Black people get priced out of "ghetto" in Portland:

White Californians: WTF, the place is nicer, stop losing at life Loozy McLoser. What are you some racial justice loser who thinks red lining and block busting ever existed? Slavery ended and there hasn't been an incident of racism since. You have no right to be suspicious of anything, ever.

White Californians get priced out of white neighborhood in California by people who picked more lucrative career track:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. SUMBUDDY CALL WAMBALAMPS.

SAKWAMENTO TAKSEZ ME

CALL WAMBALAMPS!!11111!!!!!!!

As if taxes go down, the same people bidding them out of SF or LA now aren't ALSO going to have more disposable income to spend on competing to be house poor.
Posted By: ElOgro

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 04:16 PM

Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 04:44 PM

You're racist against desk jockeys in Florida who haven't grown a pair of nuts and ditched for somewhere with surf.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Black people get priced out of "ghetto" in Portland:

White Californians: WTF, the place is nicer, stop losing at life Loozy McLoser. What are you some racial justice loser who thinks red lining and block busting ever existed? Slavery ended and there hasn't been an incident of racism since. You have no right to be suspicious of anything, ever.

White Californians get priced out of white neighborhood in California by people who picked more lucrative career track:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. SUMBUDDY CALL WAMBALAMPS.

SAKWAMENTO TAKSEZ ME

CALL WAMBALAMPS!!11111!!!!!!!

As if taxes go down, the same people bidding them out of SF or LA now aren't ALSO going to have more disposable income to spend on competing to be house poor.


roflmao

Well done.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 06:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Black people get priced out of "ghetto" in Portland:

White Californians: WTF, the place is nicer, stop losing at life Loozy McLoser. What are you some racial justice loser who thinks red lining and block busting ever existed? Slavery ended and there hasn't been an incident of racism since. You have no right to be suspicious of anything, ever.

White Californians get priced out of white neighborhood in California by people who picked more lucrative career track:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. SUMBUDDY CALL WAMBALAMPS.

SAKWAMENTO TAKSEZ ME

CALL WAMBALAMPS!!11111!!!!!!!

As if taxes go down, the same people bidding them out of SF or LA now aren't ALSO going to have more disposable income to spend on competing to be house poor.


iFail won't identify with this even though he spent years complaining about how he couldn't afford to live near the beach because people from lesser kulturs (the Chinese) and investors were pricing him out.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 06:48 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Black people get priced out of "ghetto" in Portland:

White Californians: WTF, the place is nicer, stop losing at life Loozy McLoser. What are you some racial justice loser who thinks red lining and block busting ever existed? Slavery ended and there hasn't been an incident of racism since. You have no right to be suspicious of anything, ever.

White Californians get priced out of white neighborhood in California by people who picked more lucrative career track:

WAAAAAH. WAAAAAH. SUMBUDDY CALL WAMBALAMPS.

SAKWAMENTO TAKSEZ ME

CALL WAMBALAMPS!!11111!!!!!!!

As if taxes go down, the same people bidding them out of SF or LA now aren't ALSO going to have more disposable income to spend on competing to be house poor.


iFail won't identify with this even though he spent years complaining about how he couldn't afford to live near the beach because people from lesser kulturs (the Chinese) and investors were pricing him out.


I think he's a bad example here imho. Meinfallalot owns it in this case. Sort of like Casa MugREEEE and AirBnB or whatever. Also I'd argue lots of that Chinese money IS fleeing their (way more) authoritarian CULT YOUR and the Chinese persons in question are using 15 shell companies that own the home to hide wealth/income.

Everyone's an economic justice warrior when the invisible hand is bitch-slapping them.

But as overdone as California spending may be, it's not like cutting spending (and then taxes) is going to make Oceanside's surf worse than St. Mushburgerstine. It's not going to make Carmel as trashy and low-rent as US1 in Daytona.

It sure isn't going to result in all residents waking up to a top of the mornin' hour of uncompensated manual labor in the form of a foot of snow on an icy walk/drive way every fourth day three months of the year in Manhattan Beach.

I just did a quick check. If you're in Southern California, you're three hours of daytime heating behind, and already 5-10 degrees warmer than North Florida. San Francisco, Santa Cruz, and Monterrey zones about on par.

It's not like most people who grew up in Lighthouse Point, or Delray Beach, or Boca Raton, or Naples, or Sarasota, or Palm Beach Gardens, or Jupiter, or Stuart, or Vero Beach etc. can afford to buy a home in the neighborhood they grew up in either.

I like to shovel
[ ] Money
[ ] Snow
[ ] Both, for some inexplicable Chitown/Greater NYC/Bawwstin reason.
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 07:18 PM

All you have to do is give up surfing and good pizza then you can live basically anywhere like a king
Posted By: grapedrink

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
All you have to do is give up surfing and good pizza then you can live basically anywhere like a king

Good pizza is tough to find in California. It can be found, but the median/average is bleh. 90% of it is mostly thin cracker crust crap, or Round Table style where there the sauce and cheese goes all the way to the edge of the pan with no crust to hold on to. If not that, there's some other flaw.

That being said, pizza is a sacrifice I can make for the surf and weather beer
Posted By: DerDer

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
All you have to do is give up surfing and good pizza then you can live basically anywhere like a king

Good pizza is tough to find in California. It can be found, but the median/average is bleh. 90% of it is mostly thin cracker crust crap, or Round Table style where there the sauce and cheese goes all the way to the edge of the pan with no crust to hold on to. If not that, there's some other flaw.

That being said, pizza is a sacrifice I can make for the surf and weather beer


There's been a big influx of good Neapolitan-style pizza in San Diego!
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: grapedrink
Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
All you have to do is give up surfing and good pizza then you can live basically anywhere like a king

Good pizza is tough to find in California. It can be found, but the median/average is bleh. 90% of it is mostly thin cracker crust crap, or Round Table style where there the sauce and cheese goes all the way to the edge of the pan with no crust to hold on to. If not that, there's some other flaw.

That being said, pizza is a sacrifice I can make for the surf and weather beer


This is shocking

You have the best ingredients

You have people who can cook

What is the issue?
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 11:50 PM

Is it the water? Does it f up the dough?
Posted By: DerDer

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/10/19 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Is it the water? Does it f up the dough?


I've heard of some chef's using RO water then adding minerals to replicate east coast water. I know many brewers do the same thing to replicate water from Germany, etc.
Posted By: grapedrink

Re: Can we talk about white supremacy? - 01/11/19 12:16 AM


Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Is it the water? Does it f up the dough?

A lot of California water is high pH/salts/carbonates, which probably does not help. I wonít even cook pasta or rice with the tap water. I have an under the sink RO that feeds into my fridge that I use for cooking and coffee.

But to answer your question, IMO itís mostly cultural and competition based. When you have a pizzeria on every corner, you need to step up your game to stay in business. When there isn't much competition, you donít have to be that good to stay in business, nor do you (or your customers) have a concept of what good pizza is.

In general, the east coast is better for take out, while the west coast is better for cuisine. Mexican being the exception in favor of the west coast beer
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