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"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media

Posted By: casa_mugrienta

"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/18/16 11:49 PM

Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph........but I totally agree with the last. Unfortunately a lot of what we see in the news today was ginned up because Hillary had a bad couple of days. Wonder if any of the so-called journalists have regrets now that a bunch of police officers have been shot?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:07 AM

Quote:
You can't argue with the facts.


roflmao

You can!


PS I'm glad to hear that racism doesn't exist anymore. Somebody needs to tell black people.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Quote:
You can't argue with the facts.


roflmao

You can!


PS I'm glad to hear that racism doesn't exist anymore. Somebody needs to tell black people.


foreheadslap socrazy
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:12 AM

Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I'd largely agree. The war on drugs may be the biggest failure in policy the US has ever seen.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Quote:
You can't argue with the facts.


roflmao

You can!


PS I'm glad to hear that racism doesn't exist anymore. Somebody needs to tell black people.


foreheadslap socrazy


There is that substance that we all love you for.
Posted By: GWS

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:47 AM

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...and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade.


I used to think that could never happen.

Now? If some KKK/white supremacists go ape shit with assault weapons on the next BLM march in Cleveland?

That just might kick it off.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
Quote:
...and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade.


I used to think that could never happen.

Now? If some KKK/white supremacists go ape shit with assault weapons on the next BLM march in Cleveland?

That just might kick it off.


Obama is doing this to reduce the unemployment rate.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 03:07 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?


Close friend of mine is a Trump supporter for god knows why. Total denial of white privilege despite his getting busted for possession of weed with intent to sell. His parents ponied up $45K to keep his record clean. Tried to explain to him that not everyone has that opportunity. Flew over his head unfortunately. shrug
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 03:08 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
When you look at the drug trade supply chain the vast majority of the hubs are in poor neighborhoods even if the salesmen aren't selling a whole lot to the locals (ie poor Blacks in your scenario).

I wonder if "progressives" ever take notice that the VAST majority of this bullshit didn't start until after this "Great Society" nonsense started making its way into government programs because racist "progressives" either think that the Black Man is too stupid to take care of himself and needs help from "kind, caring liberals or in LBJ's case, wants more Democrat voters and keeping them hooked on handouts keeps them coming back to the Democrat party.....kinda' like a crack or heroin dealer huh?
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 04:27 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


From Wikipedia:

Quote:
Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]


Sounds like a great guy.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


From Wikipedia:

Quote:
Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]


Sounds like a great guy.


It's almost as if JAH was deputized.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


From Wikipedia:

Quote:
Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]


Sounds like a great guy.


What part of NOT GUILTY didn't you grasp?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 10:46 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?


You act like law enforcement is picking on them. Law enforcement goes where the crime is just like firefighters go where there are fires. Its not the war on drugs that created the mess in that community, it is a whole cascade of failed liberal policies and a lack of a basic social and moral code. The whole thing is broken down. Our government has been funding bad behavior for more than 50 years and it is a total failure. Look no further than the breakdown of the family unit that has resulted from liberal policies. These kids don't stand a chance.

As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 11:25 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?


You act like law enforcement is picking on them. Law enforcement goes where the crime is just like firefighters go where there are fires.


Wrong. Law enforcement goes where they will be able to get easy arrests and assured convictions. Open air markets are much easier than Junior's fenced in backyard. And it's as much about politics as anything else too. Gotta make the chief of police, the mayor, and the DA look good.

Quote:
Its not the war on drugs that created the mess in that community, it is a whole cascade of failed liberal policies and a lack of a basic social and moral code.


You honestly think the lack of basic social and moral code comes from liberal policies? roflmao

Lack of basic social and moral code has gone hand in hand with living in poverty ever since civilization began, and long before liberal policies even existed.

Quote:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.


rolleyes Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?


Close friend of mine is a Trump supporter for god knows why. Total denial of white privilege despite his getting busted for possession of weed with intent to sell. His parents ponied up $45K to keep his record clean. Tried to explain to him that not everyone has that opportunity. Flew over his head unfortunately. shrug


I too have seen similar in many circumstances, even with coke. It isn't a race thing, it's an economic thing.

A good lawyer can pull a disappearing act no matter what your race. You just have to have the ability to pay.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Quote:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.


rolleyes Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.


Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a shit what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that shit to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Quote:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.


rolleyes Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.


Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a shit what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that shit to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.


Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition

All choices, not just drugs, affect others in some way. Good or bad.

And support for the death penalty is just plain stupid, unless you're OK with executing innocent people every once in a while.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



I totally disagree with your first paragraph.....


What part? Rates of drug use? The fact drug arrests bar people from real employment? Do you think people spend money to hire a lawyer vs public defender just for the fun of it? That it's NOT easier to trample on the rights of people in low income communities?
When you look at the drug trade supply chain the vast majority of the hubs are in poor neighborhoods even if the salesmen aren't selling a whole lot to the locals (ie poor Blacks in your scenario).

I wonder if "progressives" ever take notice that the VAST majority of this bullshit didn't start until after this "Great Society" nonsense started making its way into government programs because racist "progressives" either think that the Black Man is too stupid to take care of himself and needs help from "kind, caring liberals or in LBJ's case, wants more Democrat voters and keeping them hooked on handouts keeps them coming back to the Democrat party.....kinda' like a crack or heroin dealer huh?

Historical ignorance
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:37 PM

When it comes to aiding the poor they need complimentary artifacts and not competitive artifacts.

Yes, I learned a new concept. But it gets to the heart of the matter.

You can buy opiates over the counter in spain and portugal and they don't have the addiction issues we have here.

Though I suspect this is propaganda so the DEA has a boogieman now that weed is not a good execuse for spending all that money on law enforcment.

Or it's not the drug so much and the living conditions in the USA that is driving people to pain killers.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition



No its not. Its just that those who favor legalization have latched onto libertarianism.
Libertarianism as I see it is individual freedom with responsibility. What the whacko drug legalization crowd is after is individual freedom with no responsibility. Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Quote:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.


rolleyes Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.


Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a shit what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that shit to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.


There would be a lot of 1%ers caught up in that dragnet. And with the OxyContin peddling, please feel free to execute every single person involved in that, from sales reps to CEO and seize all assets, personal and corporate. It's funny how they have banned cigarette ads from TV but not pharmaceuticals. I would bet you the majority of heroin ODs in your neighborhood all started from pilfering the home medicine cabinet. It's pretty rife in my neighborhood too. Rich kids with boredom and access.

On another note, in regards to racism, ask yourself why the sentencing requirements are so different for coke vs. crack.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition



No its not. Its just that those who favor legalization have latched onto libertarianism.


Umm, for the most part, no.
Drug legalization is about individualism and practicality. Individualism and practicality is what libertarianism is about. You have no right to tell me what I can and can't do unless I'm directly causing harm to another.

Overall it's a philosophy of self-ownership.

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Libertarianism as I see it is individual freedom with responsibility.


Responsibility to you = government officials make decisions for consenting adults like myself about drug use. roflmao It's none of your business.

I suppose the government should be able to make decisions for you about the food you eat too? About self-destructive lifestyle choices like obesity?

Quote:
What the whacko drug legalization crowd is after is individual freedom with no responsibility. Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


OK, so let's shut down the tobacco companies and ban sales of alcohol too, right? That's just a start - next we'll move on to fast food restaurants that sell artery-clogging fare.


You're not a libertarian. I've read your posts, and this one spells it out perfect. Libertarian is just the latest identity those Repubelican voters disillusioned by the rise of Trump are attempting to claim.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition


. What the whacko drug legalization crowd is after is individual freedom with no responsibility. Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.



How do you get that decriminalization is about freedom without responsibility?

Where did you get this idea?

Have you looked at the data on decriminalization in Europe?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you haven't.
Posted By: Clayster

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/



These prosecutors who indict only because the mob has taken to the street ought to be put on the street with the mob. It was obvious that at least some, if not all, of those indictments were BS right from the start.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Quote:
As for drugs, I'd get even harsher on those in the business but that is another thread entirely. There have been so many heroin ODs in this area that its mind blowing. I'd be all for the death penalty for anyone caught with a dealers quantity of this poison.


rolleyes Nice job spelling out why you aren't a libertarian.


Being libertarian and being for death for drug dealers are not opposing viewpoints. I don't give a shit what you do to yourself. Drink turpentine for all I care. The minute you start selling that shit to people, particularly minors, you are affecting others and need to be held accountable. Public hanging would be preferable.


Legalization of drugs is a cornerstone of libertarian thought.

reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/libertarians-for-drug-prohibition

All choices, not just drugs, affect others in some way. Good or bad.

And support for the death penalty is just plain stupid, unless you're OK with executing innocent people every once in a while.


what people think they are and what they actually are don't necessarily jive. For the life of me, I don't see how any "libertarian" would support the war on drugs.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 02:45 PM

GromsDad is a libertarian? Why do I expect he won't be voting for his party's candidate in November?
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 02:53 PM

Can't say I agree about racism; I'd apply that to "voter fraud" and "selling baby parts" and "Benghazi" and "Gun Control" ages before racism, but I dig the bit on usage/conviction. C_M is barking up a good tree imho.

GromsDad is just barking.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 04:29 PM

In fact, our nation's drug policies stem from racism in the first place - "negro fiends" were the poster children for criminalization of coke in the first place, Chinese creeps who were thought to be luring white women into opium dens in San Fransisco caused the opium ban, and "violent Mexicans" brought about the end of legal weed.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
In fact, our nation's drug policies stem from racism in the first place - "negro fiends" were the poster children for criminalization of coke in the first place, Chinese creeps who were thought to be luring white women into opium dens in San Fransisco caused the opium ban, and "violent Mexicans" brought about the end of legal weed.

100% fact
Posted By: trevorbc

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 07:01 PM

Race Relations / Gallup Historical Polls

It looks to me like we were doing okay well into Pres. Obama's 2nd term. It also looks like blacks thought it was worse that most other people prior to the last year but now think it's a little better than most other people.



A drop-off from the 70s to the mid-40s in such a short period of time is pretty dramatic. But the latest number on that graph is from Jan 2015. That was 18 months ago. Although not charted on the graph, a couple of the questions in the article have more recent responses.

For instance, one of the questions was "How about the state of race relations?"

for the responses indicting to "somewhat satisfied" the range from 2001-2014 was 39%-45%. But it dropped to 24% in 2015 and 01/2016. As well, the "very satisfied" went from 8% and 10% prior to 2015 and dropped to 6% in 2015 and 3% in 2016.

That's a significant decline in "satisfied". Not an improvement.

For the responses indicating to "very disappointed" the range from 2001-2014 was 10% - 14%, the mode (most common) being 13% and 14%. But it jumped to 30% in 2015 and increased to 34% as of their 01/2016 poll.

The numbers for "somewhat disappointed" didn't change significantly mostly 26-28% before vs 30% and 32% in 2015 and 2016. But I would guess there's relatively little overlap in the composition of that group in 2016 vs the periods prior to 2015. It's apparent that lots of people moved in from "somewhat satisfied" and lots of people moved out to one of the "dissatisfied" categories.

Regardless of the reasons why, it's apparent that these conditions have gotten much worse just in the last 2-3 years, not better. Call it a success or progress if you want, but that's not an assertion that the poll numbers support.






Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


From Wikipedia:

Quote:
Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]


Sounds like a great guy.


What part of NOT GUILTY didn't you grasp?


You're the one who doesn't grasp it what NOT GUILTY means.

NOT GUILTY means NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

And it happens all the time when the victim is a black man.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 07:29 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


From Wikipedia:

Quote:
Lieutenant Brian W. Rice, age 41, white, is a 17-year-veteran of the force.[23][24] Rice, who was promoted to lieutenant in 2011, is the highest-ranking officer charged in relation to Gray's death.[26] The Guardian reported that, in 2012, Rice had allegedly threatened to kill himself and the husband of his former partner. He had been hospitalized, reportedly, for a mental health evaluation and given an administrative suspension. The consequences of this threat included twice having his guns confiscated, and a restraining order on behalf of the husband of his former partner.[27] According to a police report obtained by The Guardian, Rice had also misused his position to order the arrest of his ex-girlfriend's husband as part of a personal dispute that took place two weeks before the incident.[28]


Sounds like a great guy.


What part of NOT GUILTY didn't you grasp?


You told that to Fred Goldman after the OJ trial too, didn't you?


Did his mustache quiver?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 07:29 PM

Lots of criminals get off for lack of evidence or lack of even being identified. Blacks most of all, in terms of their representation in the population. Our legal system puts the burden of proof on the state. A tie always goes to the runner.

In the Freddie Gray cases the state has their suspects. What they don't have is the evidence it takes to prove a crime was committed. Counting all their various allegations, the state is now 0-24. Meaning, they can't even prove any of the lesser charges.

Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Lots of criminals get off for lack of evidence or lack of even being identified. Blacks most of all, in terms of their representation in the population. Our legal system puts the burden of proof on the state. A tie always goes to the runner.

In the Freddie Gray cases the state has their suspects. What they don't have is the evidence it takes to prove a crime was committed. Counting all their various allegations, the state is now 0-24. Meaning, they can't even prove any of the lesser charges.



Yet Freddie Gray died as a result of injuries he suffered while in police custody, and no one is being held accountable.

If so many black people are being freed due to lack of evidence, one has to ask: Why are so many black people being arrested without any evidence in the first place?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 08:01 PM

A - There's "no evidence for an arrest" and then there's "insufficient evidence for a conviction". I'm sure you can understand the point that the two are not synonymous. Not every arrest SHOULD result in a conviction when the burden of evidence for both is different.

B - Lots of the crooks never even get arrested for lack of evidence, despite what the cops think they know of them. I can't even tell you how many assholes I had to let go for lack of evidence to support an arrest. I CAN tell you that I never made an arrest that was found - upon review by the DA office - to have lacked probable cause.

C - The people who end up in prisons are the ones who have gone through the judicial system. Many times they have agreed to plea bargain for lesser offenses, so they're not even serving the sentence for what they actually did.

D - Even so, blacks as a group really do get convicted of way more violent crime against others relative to their representation in the population - by which I am not referring to the oh-so-unfair drug laws.

E - The rates of black convictions for crimes of violence (not drug crimes) are actually higher than the rates of blacks being shot by police for any reason.

FBI crime statistics

U.S. census info on demographics in the U.S.

"The Guardian" count of police shootings, which lists a larger number of such shootings than the less complete counts from other sources.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Lots of criminals get off for lack of evidence or lack of even being identified. Blacks most of all, in terms of their representation in the population. Our legal system puts the burden of proof on the state. A tie always goes to the runner.

In the Freddie Gray cases the state has their suspects. What they don't have is the evidence it takes to prove a crime was committed. Counting all their various allegations, the state is now 0-24. Meaning, they can't even prove any of the lesser charges.



Yet Freddie Gray died as a result of injuries he suffered while in police custody, and no one is being held accountable.


[shrugs] Some people think the cops are responsible for his injuries, and some think he's responsible for his injuries. The state hasn't even gotten close to demonstrating the former to the exclusion of the latter. The only thing they did was treat him exactly the same way hundreds of other arrestees are treated every single day across the U.S. He wasn't seat belted into the back of a transport van because he was combative.

If that was such a crime then why aren't people dying every single week under those circumstances? Could it be because that's not the dominant reason for his injuries?

Career crook. Far more experienced than most people in the process of getting arrested, being transported and booked for a crime. There's no aspect of his arrest that he could claim to be ignorant of.


Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?


Good of you to admit that you don't care if your "freedom" hurts others.
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
A - There's "no evidence for an arrest" and then there's "insufficient evidence for a conviction". I'm sure you can understand the point that the two are not synonymous. Not every arrest SHOULD result in a conviction when the burden of evidence for both is different.

B - Lots of the crooks never even get arrested for lack of evidence, despite what the cops think they know of them. I can't even tell you how many assholes I had to let go for lack of evidence to support an arrest. I CAN tell you that I never made an arrest that was found - upon review by the DA office - to have lacked probable cause.

C - The people who end up in prisons are the ones who have gone through the judicial system. Many times they have agreed to plea bargain for lesser offenses, so they're not even serving the sentence for what they actually did.

D - Even so, blacks as a group really do get convicted of way more violent crime against others relative to their representation in the population - by which I am not referring to the oh-so-unfair drug laws.

E - The rates of black convictions for crimes of violence (not drug crimes) are actually higher than the rates of blacks being shot by police for any reason.

FBI crime statistics

U.S. census info on demographics in the U.S.

"The Guardian" count of police shootings, which lists a larger number of such shootings than the less complete counts from other sources.



None of which addresses the too frequent instances of black men falling victim to law enforcement -whether due to malice, callous disregard, or just plain incompetence- and no one in law enforcement being held accountable.

I'm not denying the problem of black on black crime, nor do I believe the cops are responsible for all the cases that have made the news in the last few years, but I think they clearly are in the Freddie Gray case.

Freddie Gray was arrested for carrying what the cops said was "an illegal switchblade," which turned out to be a legal sized pocketknife. He never should have been arrested in the first place, yet he ended up dead in police custody.

I also believe a lot more black people end up getting pulled over, stopped, and even arrested without probable cause than white people do. The evidence backs that up, no?
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 09:32 PM

[s][/s]Poor people are targeted by law enforcement because it's expensive to obey all the laws.

I feel sorry for the poor people of other colors who are not getting attention.

As a poor .25 Jew I feel like I need my time in the sun as a victim.



Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/19/16 10:00 PM

http://www.thelocal.no/20160719/norway-p...r=1722735x84899
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?


Good of you to admit that you don't care if your "freedom" hurts others.


If people can't use drugs responsibly it's not my problem. Why should my right to partake be infringed on because someone else abuses?

Let's see:

You are anti free speech.
You support compulsory suffrage.
You support leash laws for surfing.
You believe drugs and alcohol should be illegal.
You confuse casual human interaction as an invitation for gay sex.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?


Good of you to admit that you don't care if your "freedom" hurts others.


If people can't use drugs responsibly it's not my problem. Why should my right to partake be infringed on because someone else abuses?

Let's see:

You are anti free speech.
You support compulsory suffrage.
You support leash laws for surfing.
You believe drugs and alcohol should be illegal.
You confuse casual human interaction as an invitation for gay sex.


Look, I don't give a shit what you do to your own body. Jump off a building, drink anti-freeze....whatever. If you get caught selling a controlled dangerous substance, particularly to minors, I want you executed. Get over it.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?


Good of you to admit that you don't care if your "freedom" hurts others.


If people can't use drugs responsibly it's not my problem. Why should my right to partake be infringed on because someone else abuses?

Let's see:

You are anti free speech.
You support compulsory suffrage.
You support leash laws for surfing.
You believe drugs and alcohol should be illegal.
You confuse casual human interaction as an invitation for gay sex.
FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Look, I don't give a shit what you do to your own body. Jump off a building, drink anti-freeze....whatever. If you get caught selling a controlled dangerous substance, particularly to minors, I want you executed. Get over it.


Minors. Thanks for the clarification.

So for the record you support the right of adults to use drugs? Just not minors?
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 02:37 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety.
The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at foisting their collective religious views on our daily lives using the power of law.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: trevorbc
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
[quote=casa_mugrienta]

Your freedom ends where harm to others begins.


So by that logic you agree with Michael Bloomberg banning big gulp soda in NYC right? Your consumption of large amounts of soda hurts your health, causes you to use more health care and drives up my costs. What about all of those uninsured people that go to Emergency Rooms when they get sick? Their lack of health insurance hurts me and my family. The government should make they have health care probably right? You heard it here first folks GromsDad supports Obamacare. I'm glad you've come around.


Can you remove my name from that quote please?


Good of you to admit that you don't care if your "freedom" hurts others.


If other people can't use guns responsibly, that should be my problem too. My right to partake in gun fetishism should not infringe on someone else freedom of not getting shot.

Let's see:

You are anti hate speech.
You support compulsory voting.
You support no leash laws for surfing.
You believe drugs and alcohol should be legal
You correctly identify sexual inuendo as an invitation for gay sex.


We finally agree on something. cheers

You just forgot to mention that by insisting on clinging on to your freedom to pursue your gun nut fantasy, you are helping kill 34,000 Americans per year.

Well done sir, well done.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety.
The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at foisting their collective religious views on our daily lives using the power of law.



thanx for getting back on topic !! )

this is America we are talking about !! )

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 08:16 AM



would it be alright with y'all if BLM protested the deaths of the San Bernadino shooter ?? )

even though death by Muslim terrorist is less likely than ,,,
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 08:20 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety.
The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at foisting their collective religious views on our daily lives using the power of law.



enforcement
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 08:30 AM

imagine YOUR black ass watching these snuff movies !! )

what would be YOUR reaction ?? )



Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 11:06 AM

Meanwhile in Philadelphia this 67 year old's life doesn't matter.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 12:50 PM

hey gromsdad !! ) cheers

Originally Posted By: sirfun


would it be alright with y'all if BLM protested the deaths of the San Bernadino shooter ?? )

even though death by Muslim terrorist is less likely than ,,,
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/20/16 12:58 PM

One cherry picks to confirm one's bias.

It's the same old story.

Look at this forest, no wait it's a tree. Whatever.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 11:19 AM

This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/
Posted By: acnjusa

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 12:07 PM

filth-adel-phia....the city of bodily harm.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: acnjusa
filth-adel-phia....the city of bodily harm.


What a dump. I'll go to a couple of Flyers games every year but that's about it. If the stadium was any further from the bridge than it is I wouldn't bother. Job takes me there from time to time......its no better than Camden or Newark. Dump of a city.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 01:42 PM

I like the girls I meet from Philly. Generally have a brain, a personality, not helpless, etc.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
I like the girls .


fxt
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 06:48 PM

Racism is dead, it's all made up by the lamestream media.

Ex-KKK leader David Duke registers to run for U.S. Senate in Louisiana

Right down GDaddy's alley, this guy will restore "your" Anglo <IQ120 mono-culture George.

"I believe in equal rights for all and respect for all Americans. However, what makes me different is I also demand respect for the rights and heritage of European Americans."



"I'm overjoyed to see Donald Trump and most Americans embrace most of the issues that I've championed for years. My slogan remains America first."

barf
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Racism is dead, it's all made up by the lamestream media.

Ex-KKK leader David Duke registers to run for U.S. Senate in Louisiana

Right down GDaddy's alley, this guy will restore "your" Anglo <IQ120 mono-culture George.

"I believe in equal rights for all and respect for all Americans. However, what makes me different is I also demand respect for the rights and heritage of European Americans."



barf


There isn't a dime's worth of difference between that guy and this guy:

Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 07:49 PM

LOL
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


You are clearly a fvcking sociopath.

And it looks like you get your talking points from sociopaths.

Apart from sociopath video of cars mowing down pedestrians he's got other idiotic gems.

"Another terror attack inside Europe. This time Munich Germany in a shopping center. 3 Islamic terrorists believed tied to Obama's JV team ISIS opened fired in a mall.
Germany has very strict gun laws. These ISIS terrorists easily could have come in with the refugees. The same Refugees Obama and Hillary Clinton are brining to America at this very moment."

"3 Islamic terrorists"?
Is this where you get your "facts" about police shootings?

Fvcktard.

Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


I love how cops walking away from killing an unarmed man scott free is reason for you to believe that there's not a problem. foreheadslap
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


Well, he has a point. Last time I looked, slowing traffic down was an offense punishable by immediate death. America and its Patriots are nothing if not protectors of the Constitution, including that pesky due process thing.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


Well, he has a point. Last time I looked, slowing traffic down was an offense punishable by immediate death. America and its Patriots are nothing if not protectors of the Constitution, including that pesky due process thing.
What was the last thing you looked at the last time you looked?
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/22/16 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


Well, he has a point. Last time I looked, slowing traffic down was an offense punishable by immediate death. America and its Patriots are nothing if not protectors of the Constitution, including that pesky due process thing.
What was the last thing you looked at the last time you looked?


The same book that suggested to you that you could abort "gay" into extinction.

No, really, the Bible of course.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Meanwhile in Baltimore.....a year later the prosecutor who tried to make a name for herself and the media that sensationalized it are 0-4 in proving that the cops committed a crime. But hey, CNN's numbers were up. shrug http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/07/18/baltimore-officer-learns-fate-in-gray-case/


I love how cops walking away from killing an unarmed man scott free is reason for you to believe that there's not a problem. foreheadslap


So you have evidence that the police killed this criminal??? I suggest you come forth and present it to the authorities.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


all criminals or just some? Petty theft? Felony larceny? Murder? Drunk in public? Fake ID? Should we run them all over or just some?
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


Well, he has a point. Last time I looked, slowing traffic down was an offense punishable by immediate death. America and its Patriots are nothing if not protectors of the Constitution, including that pesky due process thing.
What was the last thing you looked at the last time you looked?


The same book that suggested to you that you could abort "gay" into extinction.

No, really, the Bible of course.
Fortunately for the LGBT community there are now and in the future probably enough Christian couples who have a major problem with killing children for the crime of being homosexual.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Fortunately for the LGBT community there are now and in the future probably enough Christian couples who have a major problem with killing children for the crime of being homosexual.


LOL, you still don't understand. Even if you abort every single "gay fetus" for the next 100 years, the moment you stop you'll have more gay babies. Please tell me you understand that this is not the same thing as your pandas.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Fortunately for the LGBT community there are now and in the future probably enough Christian couples who have a major problem with killing children for the crime of being homosexual.


LOL, you still don't understand. Even if you abort every single "gay fetus" for the next 100 years, the moment you stop you'll have more gay babies. Please tell me you understand that this is not the same thing as your pandas.
....and when exactly will that moment we stop aborting homosexual children come again?
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Fortunately for the LGBT community there are now and in the future probably enough Christian couples who have a major problem with killing children for the crime of being homosexual.


LOL, you still don't understand. Even if you abort every single "gay fetus" for the next 100 years, the moment you stop you'll have more gay babies. Please tell me you understand that this is not the same thing as your pandas.
....and when exactly will that moment we stop aborting homosexual children come again?



Doesn't matter. Could come 1000 years from now when Jebus returns and tells us all that we've been doing it wrong. Again, please tell me you now understand how your panda comparison was off.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:44 AM

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )




Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety.

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at foisting their collective religious views on our daily lives using the power of law.



Originally Posted By: sirfun

thanx for getting back on topic !! )

this is America we are talking about !! )

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Fortunately for the LGBT community there are now and in the future probably enough Christian couples who have a major problem with killing children for the crime of being homosexual.


LOL, you still don't understand. Even if you abort every single "gay fetus" for the next 100 years, the moment you stop you'll have more gay babies. Please tell me you understand that this is not the same thing as your pandas.
....and when exactly will that moment we stop aborting homosexual children come again?



Doesn't matter. Could come 1000 years from now when Jebus returns and tells us all that we've been doing it wrong. Again, please tell me you now understand how your panda comparison was off.
Why do you hate science?....or is it that you love science only when it doesn't make you look silly? (which is often although I don't blame science unless you're genetically predisposed to silliness)
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:52 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )




Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
[quote=CharmingSophisticate]
FecalFascist and the cult that he so ably represents is the reason why I use the dripping with sarcasm sneer quotes around the words "liberal/progressives".

They are a straight up fraud.


More like religious politicos of the Falwell variety. [/quote
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at foisting their collective religious views on our daily lives using the power of law.



Originally Posted By: sirfun

thanx for getting back on topic !! )

this is America we are talking about !! )

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )
Seriously, I think that I'd love to joust with you on whatever point you're trying to make but your somewhat incoherent.

Try being blunt while working your way to incoherence but stop about halfway.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 01:54 AM

I AM AGREEING WITH YOU !! )
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 09:33 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of blacks and other dark-skinned people at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Fixed it for ya.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 11:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of blacks and other dark-skinned people at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Fixed it for ya.


You are a despicable racist human being. F-U.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.
I would think that you'd be happy that us rightards are defenders of the rule of law and that we respect the right of Democrat Party creations like the KKK to exist.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.


Both the KKK and BLM are democrat racial agitation groups. Same program just representing different races. Both equally despicable.

I believe in one America. Not a white one and not a black one. One America Fecal and if you don't like it you should leave.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.


Both the KKK and BLM are democrat racial agitation groups. Same program just representing different races. Both equally despicable.

I believe in one America. Not a white one and not a black one. One America Fecal and if you don't like it you should leave.


I am glad the KKK all lined up to vote Democrat the previous two elections and will cast their ballots in this election for Hillary.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 04:35 PM

Yeah and David Duke is running for senate in Louisiana as a Democrat and endorsing and singing praises for Hillary!

Oh wait... rolleyes
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of blacks and other dark-skinned people at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Fixed it for ya.


You are a despicable racist human being. F-U.


I'm sorry, ShortBus, but you don't get to cheer on a snuff film of black protesters being mowed down by cars and call me racist. You don't get to revel in that kind of extreme violence towards black people and call me racist. You don't get to post things like,

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace


The other part is that black people get treated like shit for no particular reason other than being black the ditch they've dug for themselves.


Fixed that.


and then call me a racist. It doesn't matter how many times you were dropped on your head as an infant, and it doesn't matter that your IQ is barely hovering above 70, when you say racist things, you are a racist. And you say racist things here a lot.

My pointing out your obvious mental deficiencies and handicaps may indeed make me a despicable person, but only one of us is a racist, and it's you.

The fact that you are too retarded to realize any of this is not my problem. F-U too.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 06:11 PM

You saw the color of people's skin there....not me ya dumb racist. I don't care what color some criminal is......if they're blocking the road and threatening people simply because of the color of their skin or because they are unlucky enough to be on that highway....I'm gonna wish you run over the minute those motorists feel the least bit unsafe.

PS: The truth is color blind....unlike you. NGFY Buttercup!
Posted By: ElOgro

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
You saw the color of people's skin there....not me ya dumb racist. I don't care what color some criminal is......if they're blocking the road and threatening people simply because of the color of their skin or because they are unlucky enough to be on that highway....I'm gonna wish you run over the minute those motorists feel the least bit unsafe.

PS: The truth is color blind....unlike you. NGFY Buttercup!


What he quoted that you wrote, if that's not a generalized racial slur then Hillary isn't a crook.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: ElOgro
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
You saw the color of people's skin there....not me ya dumb racist. I don't care what color some criminal is......if they're blocking the road and threatening people simply because of the color of their skin or because they are unlucky enough to be on that highway....I'm gonna wish you run over the minute those motorists feel the least bit unsafe.

PS: The truth is color blind....unlike you. NGFY Buttercup!


What he quoted that you wrote, if that's not a generalized racial slur then Hillary isn't a crook.


Its not a slur at all. The first step in fixing anything is admitting there is a problem. Unfortunately the black community has dug an incredible ditch. Much of their own doing and some because of left wing, so called, well intentioned socialist programs with heavy unintended consequences. Pointing fingers at the police and white people isn't going to fix the family unit or black on black crime. Today the black community is where it is mostly due to self imposed problems not because they are victims of anything of other's doing.

I'll also add that calling people racists because you disagree with them and hope to shut them up is petty bullshit that won't help anything. You have no idea of my life experience or what's in my heart just as I have no idea of yours.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Unfortunately the black community has dug an incredible ditch.


Wait wait wait, hang on a second.

What's a "black community"? confused2


I thought you see only ONE America? poke

You are too dumb to even realise that you are racist.


Who is in charge of the white community?
What are the rules that your (white) community sticks to?

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Unfortunately the black community has dug an incredible ditch.


Wait wait wait, hang on a second.

What's a "black community"? confused2


I thought you see only ONE America? poke

You are too dumb to even realise that you are racist.


Who is in charge of the white community?
What are the rules that your (white) community sticks too?



They have become separated by choice and by democrats who create divisions to secure predictable voting blocks. Its not by my doing and its not my desire. Just stating current facts. Guess that goes way over your head though. There should only be one America but you can't grasp that. The real racists are those who are constantly focusing on race and promoting racial strife......people like you Fecal.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 08:03 PM

Fvcking hell.

What's this "black community" that dug the hole for themselves?
What exactly is the requirement to be a part of this community? < Please answer this.

Did Democrats make you say stupid shit like that or did you come up with this all on your own? < don't have to answer that.


Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Fvcking hell.

What this "black community" that dug the whole for themselves?
What exactly is the requirement to be a part of this community? < Please answer this.


The Black community that consistently votes white "liberal/progressives" into public office and other positions of power.

These would be the self/same white "liberals" that treat Blacks like pets because not so deep down they think that they're an inferior portion of the human species.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 08:39 PM

So why do you call it "Black" if it's just based on the voting record?

Is there any reason the skin color is implied? poke


I love how in your little stinky bubble, reality is completely reversed and flipped upside down.


Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 08:40 PM

Fecal, I've got to ask, why are you here? You seethe with hatred and resentment for the United States and its people. How and why did you land here and why do you stay? Seriously.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
So why do you call it "Black" if it's just based on the voting record?

Is there any reason the skin color is implied? poke


I love how in your little stinky bubble, reality is completely reversed and flipped upside down.




Why do you refer to people like me as white???? You must be a racist.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Fecal, I've got to ask, why are you here? You seethe with hatred and resentment for the United States and its people. How and why did you land here and why do you stay? Seriously.



Show me one sentence which shows I "seethe with hatred and resentment for the United States and its people".

Just one.

You are what is wrong with America, not me. You and GDaddy both.
Insufferable stupidity.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
So why do you call it "Black" if it's just based on the voting record?

Is there any reason the skin color is implied? poke


I love how in your little stinky bubble, reality is completely reversed and flipped upside down.




Why do you refer to people like me as white???? You must be a racist.


No answer as usual.

It's good that you see America as "one" except that pesky "black community" that's digging a ditch. roflmao

I'm just amazed that you even manage to breathe, do you have to think about it?
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Unfortunately the black community has dug an incredible ditch.


Wait wait wait, hang on a second.

What's a "black community"? confused2


I thought you see only ONE America? poke

You are too dumb to even realise that you are racist.


Who is in charge of the white community?
What are the rules that your (white) community sticks too?



They have become separated by choice and by democrats who create divisions to secure predictable voting blocks. Its not by my doing and its not my desire. Just stating current facts. Guess that goes way over your head though. There should only be one America but you can't grasp that. The real racists are those who are constantly focusing on race and promoting racial strife......people like you Fecal.


have you never heard of white flight? I know you liked Howard Stern's 2nd Amendment stance - he also tells a good story about how his entire neighborhood of white folks moved away the moment a few black folks moved in.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/23/16 11:27 PM

Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.
Posted By: GromsMom

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


Now I really don't like you..

Howard Stern is great entertainment and no one has better interviews. Was he not conservative enough for you?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 01:26 AM

Couldn't even tell you. I wasn't kidding when I said I saw his TV show perhaps twice. Other than that I've never paid any attention whatsoever. Couldn't tell you his views on anything.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 02:07 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 03:15 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.


Yeah, you got me there. All the "Black hoods" that could afford to move into middle-class neighborhoods came with a nasty reputation all right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



Given that the USA was conceived in racism and has had much difficulty trying to rehabilitate both the racists and their victims, your thesis is flawed.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 07:58 PM

Can you please explain for me what "conceived in racism" means????
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.


Yeah, you got me there. All the "Black hoods" that could afford to move into middle-class neighborhoods came with a nasty reputation all right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/
I happened to visit my very white German grandparents for a couple weeks in a Boston community called Mattapan when the white flight was gaining altitude. Even as 12 y/o I could see that the neighborhood was getting gnarlier- and yes, Black. They bailed within a couple years.

It's now affectionately called Murderpan.

In your desire to appear enlightened you're reading a solid 10.0 on the Obamian Denial Scale.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.


Yeah, you got me there. All the "Black hoods" that could afford to move into middle-class neighborhoods came with a nasty reputation all right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/
I happened to visit my very white German grandparents for a couple weeks in a Boston community called Mattapan when the white flight was gaining altitude. Even as 12 y/o I could see that the neighborhood was getting gnarlier- and yes, Black. They bailed within a couple years.

It's now affectionately called Murderpan.

In your desire to appear enlightened you're reading a solid 10.0 on the Obamian Denial Scale.


You're making my argument for me.

Blacks don't have places to move into without whites leaving. There's actually a book on Mattapan called something along the lines of "The Death of a Jewish Community" that details the redlining, panic selling etc. that caused the white flight. Mattapan's not unique in the white flight area, but it was studied because people couldn't figure out why the Jews left but the Catholics stayed.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.


Yeah, you got me there. All the "Black hoods" that could afford to move into middle-class neighborhoods came with a nasty reputation all right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/


Do you think Compton, South Central, Watts and other notorious regions of LA were always black dominated communities? My wifes parents and grandparents lived in those communities back in the 20's thru 50's. They are/were (RIP most all now) as Jewish as you can get. Immigrant parents moved there from eastern Europe back in the early days of LA, late 1890's-early 1900's. Those communities were pretty damn sheet white back then. Not until the mid-late 50's did it change, like so many other much older cities in our nation. Post WWII kinda ushered that change most in towns with military bases or related manufacturing nearby.

Their homes and businesses were burnt down in the first riots in 1965, and never went back. Would you?

That's how "white flight" gets started.

Ya, they rebuilt. "Someone" made sure there was a liquor store on every corner of town.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 09:30 PM

When did Jews become white people?
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Howard Stern: Saw his TV show perhaps twice. Repulsive garbage.


I'll ask again then, without the Howard reference. Have you never heard of white flight? You think it's the black folks who don't want to integrate? History clearly proves otherwise.
It's slightly possible that the crackers that flew bailed because the of the well deserved reputation that Black 'hoods came with, bonehead.


Yeah, you got me there. All the "Black hoods" that could afford to move into middle-class neighborhoods came with a nasty reputation all right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/white-flight-alive-and-well/399980/


Do you think Compton, South Central, Watts and other notorious regions of LA were always black dominated communities? My wifes parents and grandparents lived in those communities back in the 20's thru 50's. They are/were (RIP most all now) as Jewish as you can get. Immigrant parents moved there from eastern Europe back in the early days of LA, late 1890's-early 1900's. Those communities were pretty damn sheet white back then. Not until the mid-late 50's did it change, like so many other much older cities in our nation. Post WWII kinda ushered that change most in towns with military bases or related manufacturing nearby.

Their homes and businesses were burnt down in the first riots in 1965, and never went back. Would you?

That's how "white flight" gets started.

Ya, they rebuilt. "Someone" made sure there was a liquor store on every corner of town.


My mom grew up in Inglewood. No, she'd never go back. But to suggest that white flight was a result of the riots is a joke. There was a good 20 years of white-imposed "unofficial" segregation in the Compton area before that - the riots were a result of decades of prior social policy failure in the area.

I'm not making a judgment on anyone who bailed for the suburbs. F*ck, I live in whitesville. It's naive to suggest, however, that today's "chosen segregation" is really chosen, at least by minorities.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Can you please explain for me what "conceived in racism" means????


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Real problem is the war on drugs and the fallout wreaks havoc in black communities. Blacks use drugs at a much lower rate than whites yet the percentage of drug arrests and convictions is much higher. Black communities are sitting ducks. The criminal justice system seeks easy targets who don't know their rights and can't afford a lawyer. And a cycle is perpetuated.

You can't argue with the facts. The only thing that will solve this is an end to the war on drugs.

This isn't about racism. But damn the media likes to denote the race of the officers and the deceased within hours of the shooting. Stirring up hate makes more news stories, hopefully more violence, and maybe a race war for the chance of the story of the decade. And politicians will never waste a crisis. Fuckn sickos.



Given that the USA was conceived in racism and has had much difficulty trying to rehabilitate both the racists and their victims, your thesis is flawed.


shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 10:10 PM

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )


Rich getricher !! ) = everything as planned !! )

shrug




Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective

religious views on our daily lives


using the power of law.



shrug

This is just the tip of the iceberg !! )

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/racist-history-portland/492035/
Is just continuing the work of …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise
shrug
Posted By: slash

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.


Both the KKK and BLM are democrat racial agitation groups. Same program just representing different races. Both equally despicable.

I believe in one America. Not a white one and not a black one. One America Fecal and if you don't like it you should leave.



If you are a normal white American, the truth is you don't understand being black in America and you instinctively underestimate the level of discrimination.


Newt Gingrich
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/24/16 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Can you please explain for me what "conceived in racism" means????


Yes, I can.

Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/25/16 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


Do you think Compton, South Central, Watts and other notorious regions of LA were always black dominated communities? My wifes parents and grandparents lived in those communities back in the 20's thru 50's. They are/were (RIP most all now) as Jewish as you can get. Immigrant parents moved there from eastern Europe back in the early days of LA, late 1890's-early 1900's. Those communities were pretty damn sheet white back then. Not until the mid-late 50's did it change, like so many other much older cities in our nation. Post WWII kinda ushered that change most in towns with military bases or related manufacturing nearby.

Their homes and businesses were burnt down in the first riots in 1965, and never went back. Would you?

That's how "white flight" gets started.

Ya, they rebuilt. "Someone" made sure there was a liquor store on every corner of town.


My mom grew up in Inglewood. No, she'd never go back. But to suggest that white flight was a result of the riots is a joke. There was a good 20 years of white-imposed "unofficial" segregation in the Compton area before that - the riots were a result of decades of prior social policy failure in the area.

I'm not making a judgment on anyone who bailed for the suburbs. F*ck, I live in whitesville. It's naive to suggest, however, that today's "chosen segregation" is really chosen, at least by minorities.


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/25/16 06:28 PM

I'm of the school that "conceived in Liberty" are a white man's words. The Bill of Rights as conceived did not apply to slaves and enslavement did not apply to white U.S. of Americans. Emancipation made no one whole, especially the generations of motherless children weighing upon the collective psyche and especially when so many members of the 'granting' race act like Liberty was an undeserved gift.
Posted By: 3dXman

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/25/16 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
I'm of the school that "conceived in Liberty" are a white man's words. The Bill of Rights as conceived did not apply to slaves and enslavement did not apply to white U.S. of Americans. Emancipation made no one whole, especially the generations of motherless children weighing upon the collective psyche and especially when so many members of the 'granting' race act like Liberty was an undeserved gift.


SHOw us Ur AFro Bro!
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/25/16 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: 3dXman
Originally Posted By: test_article
I'm of the school that "conceived in Liberty" are a white man's words. The Bill of Rights as conceived did not apply to slaves and enslavement did not apply to white U.S. of Americans. Emancipation made no one whole, especially the generations of motherless children weighing upon the collective psyche and especially when so many members of the 'granting' race act like Liberty was an undeserved gift.


SHOw us Ur AFro Bro!


Wouldn't you rather I show you the geographic breakdown of my mitochondrial DNA?
Posted By: slash

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 03:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


Do you think Compton, South Central, Watts and other notorious regions of LA were always black dominated communities? My wifes parents and grandparents lived in those communities back in the 20's thru 50's. They are/were (RIP most all now) as Jewish as you can get. Immigrant parents moved there from eastern Europe back in the early days of LA, late 1890's-early 1900's. Those communities were pretty damn sheet white back then. Not until the mid-late 50's did it change, like so many other much older cities in our nation. Post WWII kinda ushered that change most in towns with military bases or related manufacturing nearby.

Their homes and businesses were burnt down in the first riots in 1965, and never went back. Would you?

That's how "white flight" gets started.

Ya, they rebuilt. "Someone" made sure there was a liquor store on every corner of town.


My mom grew up in Inglewood. No, she'd never go back. But to suggest that white flight was a result of the riots is a joke. There was a good 20 years of white-imposed "unofficial" segregation in the Compton area before that - the riots were a result of decades of prior social policy failure in the area.

I'm not making a judgment on anyone who bailed for the suburbs. F*ck, I live in whitesville. It's naive to suggest, however, that today's "chosen segregation" is really chosen, at least by minorities.


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 04:18 AM

Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.


Luckily it hasn't landed in your wifes school district yet, thankfully.

I posted these undercover videos a couple months ago, but here they are again.

Watch and listen carefully.



This has been going on for 10-15 years in many parts of our country, and teachers attend conferences yearly on taxpayers dime to learn how best to indoctrinate.





This is considered social studies in a fair percentage of more liberal-progressive school districts in our country today.

And you thought our kids and millennials somehow became "enlightened" on their own cognition and research. This stuff is being taught in our elementary, secondary schools now. And most colleges of course.

Consider yourself lucky if your kids school hasn't dived into this gutter of thought policing.
Posted By: slash

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 04:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.


Luckily it hasn't landed in your wifes school district yet, thankfully.

I posted these undercover videos a couple months ago, but here they are again.

Watch and listen carefully.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0tlltSlGItY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This has been going on for 10-15 years in many parts of our country, and teachers attend conferences yearly on taxpayers dime to learn how best to indoctrinate.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DJpvFnL6dOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OCRxkgq2CFU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is considered social studies in a fair percentage of more liberal-progressive school districts in our country today.

And you thought our kids and millennials somehow became "enlightened" on their own cognition and research. This stuff is being taught in our elementary, secondary schools now. And most colleges of course.

Consider yourself lucky if your kids school hasn't dived into this gutter of thought policing.


You like Gromdaddy are like sheep. One undercover video/small sample does not represent the whole country.
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 07:12 AM

Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.


Luckily it hasn't landed in your wifes school district yet, thankfully.

I posted these undercover videos a couple months ago, but here they are again.

Watch and listen carefully.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0tlltSlGItY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This has been going on for 10-15 years in many parts of our country, and teachers attend conferences yearly on taxpayers dime to learn how best to indoctrinate.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DJpvFnL6dOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OCRxkgq2CFU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is considered social studies in a fair percentage of more liberal-progressive school districts in our country today.

And you thought our kids and millennials somehow became "enlightened" on their own cognition and research. This stuff is being taught in our elementary, secondary schools now. And most colleges of course.

Consider yourself lucky if your kids school hasn't dived into this gutter of thought policing.


You like Gromdaddy are like sheep. One undercover video/small sample does not represent the whole country.


Some of Glenn Beck's people are behind these videos. I watched as much as I could, but they're very dramatic, and obviously polemically designed. They're too slow at getting to the point, but that's because there's not much of a point, unless you are the type of person that's easily enraged by a very few people doing very little of anything.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 07:22 AM

Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.


And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.


Luckily it hasn't landed in your wifes school district yet, thankfully.

I posted these undercover videos a couple months ago, but here they are again.

Watch and listen carefully.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0tlltSlGItY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This has been going on for 10-15 years in many parts of our country, and teachers attend conferences yearly on taxpayers dime to learn how best to indoctrinate.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DJpvFnL6dOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OCRxkgq2CFU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is considered social studies in a fair percentage of more liberal-progressive school districts in our country today.

And you thought our kids and millennials somehow became "enlightened" on their own cognition and research. This stuff is being taught in our elementary, secondary schools now. And most colleges of course.

Consider yourself lucky if your kids school hasn't dived into this gutter of thought policing.


You like Gromdaddy are like sheep. One undercover video/small sample does not represent the whole country.


Did I even hint or come close to saying the "whole country"? Hardly.

It is being taught in many lib-progo run school districts, and luckily that's still not a majority of the country, yet. They've been having this conference every year since the early 2000's, and 1000's of teachers and school admin attend EACH YEAR. It's grown in size every year since inception.

Like I said, not a majority of schools yet (thank god or whoever), but in certain regions and school districts in our country this crap is being pushed as public "education".

This is where it's coming from out there. These people are the instigators behind the indoctrination. Hopefully it doesn't gain any more traction, but it sure looks like we're seeing the results of this mind-fooking of students the last few years. All the "safe space" and "perpetually offended" college students we see and hear about now. This is where that comes from.

BTW, there's plenty of other video evidence out there if you want to open your eyes and ears to what's being taught in many schools out there. Do a Google on "white privilege conference" or "white privilege teachers". Plenty of evidence that it's not just a "small sample" or very isolated. Those videos are ONLY a small sample of what's going on.

The problem is, many lib-prog parents agree with this ideology, and push for it at ever younger ages, whether other parents agree or not. Kind of like teaching religion in public school. Not ethical at all.

It's not just pointy-headed SJW professors in college anymore. They want/need to indoctrinate and mold minds as young as possible before higher education, in case they don't make that far.

You can't deny what you see in that little video of 100's if not 1000 or more teachers from all over the country attending a fairly large conference. This happens every year.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 08:02 AM

Maybe you guys might want to attend the next conference or related meetings all around the country every few weeks promoting "white privilege" education in public schools?

Straight from the White Privilege Conference website.....

Here's a list of great upcoming events this year:

http://www.whiteprivilegeconference.com/

http://nameorg.org/

2016-national-summit-for-courageous-conversation

http://raceamity.org/

And a few more before the year is up. Not all these will focus specifically on "white privilege" like the annual conference does, unfortunately bawling . But this organization is by no means some small obscure little "group". It's mostly east coast centric, but making its way west into the liberal bastions of the midwest and more lib-progro states and cities in the west.

Hopefully your kids won't be expected to be "tested" on this SJW engineering anytime soon.

Hey, I think I've come up with a new worthless degree colleges can come up with:

SJ engineer (warrior sounds a bit too militaristic). cookin bricks tomato
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 02:12 PM

Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: slash
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: Surfdog


Do you think Compton, South Central, Watts and other notorious regions of LA were always black dominated communities? My wifes parents and grandparents lived in those communities back in the 20's thru 50's. They are/were (RIP most all now) as Jewish as you can get. Immigrant parents moved there from eastern Europe back in the early days of LA, late 1890's-early 1900's. Those communities were pretty damn sheet white back then. Not until the mid-late 50's did it change, like so many other much older cities in our nation. Post WWII kinda ushered that change most in towns with military bases or related manufacturing nearby.

Their homes and businesses were burnt down in the first riots in 1965, and never went back. Would you?

That's how "white flight" gets started.

Ya, they rebuilt. "Someone" made sure there was a liquor store on every corner of town.


My mom grew up in Inglewood. No, she'd never go back. But to suggest that white flight was a result of the riots is a joke. There was a good 20 years of white-imposed "unofficial" segregation in the Compton area before that - the riots were a result of decades of prior social policy failure in the area.

I'm not making a judgment on anyone who bailed for the suburbs. F*ck, I live in whitesville. It's naive to suggest, however, that today's "chosen segregation" is really chosen, at least by minorities.


I live in an area with assorted blacks, latinos, asians, east Indian and yes whites. Pretty much equal to their national percentage totals actually. We and they have no problems with others and we treat each other as equal color-blind humans. What MLK stood for and represented. Not some Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson version of it, that continues to pander to those too young to think the black struggles of the 50's and 60's never happened.

And as I hinted, post WWII was the seeds of the racial injustices that would eventually lead to the boiling pot that was ready to spill over. It was worse before WWII, but eventual integration in the military forced its recognition time was coming. True social justice was needed back then, and proved itself worthy. MLK showed the world it was time. It was eventually going to have to happen somewhere, and the changing urban areas were the unfortunate, but necessary battle grounds for it. Ancient and forgotten, if not untold history today. 50 years ago is eon's to today's history deprived youth.

Today, the ones claiming the most racial inequality, especially the supposed "compassionate" whites and politicians, are usually the elites that live in very, very white privilege areas, more often than not. They talk the talk, but rarely walk the walk.

They now teach "white privilege" in kindergarten on up, re-writing and bastardizing history in doing so. Now it''s "You "white" in the USA, you born a racist, and no getting around it". White privilege and PC are messing up our youth worse than any drug could ever do. Mind-fooking delusional hypocrisy at it's lib-progro finest.


And what @@@in school do they teach white privilege? My wife teaches elementary school and there is no such talk. You are sooooo full of shiat haole boy.


Come to Texas. It's difficult to understand how the State Board of Education's textbook changes will be good for the kids or the country.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rewriting-history-texas-tackles-textbook-debate/

They go beyond teaching white privilege here. They are teaching white supremacy.
Posted By: the janitor

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 02:59 PM

I wonder about the right and left trying to keep the money from the teachers bit. I mean, I get that neither side likes giving money to anyone but their pet cause, but I'm not sure they are actively trying to shaft the teachers, as opposed to the overall lump sum? It seems like the administrators are the ones that actively shaft the teachers. Well, the parents do too, but they don't get much control over the $$.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: the janitor
It seems like the administrators are the ones that actively shaft the teachers. Well, the parents do too, but they don't get much control over the $$.


Some of these new schools, I've heard tell students get to actively shaft the teachers!
Posted By: the janitor

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 03:12 PM

roflmao
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 03:24 PM

cereally, it's the typical government deal. They never trot out so and so's retarded cousin with a middle management job because so and so gave XYZ to DWS or Pinched Anus. They never trot out the guy making 6 figures in Northern Virginia sending emails and forwarding reports.

It's always the teachers, Mairken Snaiper, a dead baby on a beach, Jeb Bush's favorite vegetable, a lion with a twitter following and a habitat instead of an 'extinct' entry in wikipedia thanks solely to trophy hunting...

You've got your Kansii and Illinii and Flints, where, for one reason or the other, the place is a sunk cost best liquidated, but show me a non-federal, state/county/local government employee, and at least in Florida, I'll show you a die-hard Republican who thinks their office for Cuban Geezer Outreach or whatever niche they occupy is the most important thing facing America. If someone trims a little off their red stapler budget, they'll be on camera with a straight razor upside a newborn's neck, asking why you hate America so much that you'll send Elian Gonzalez to Raqqa.

Don't worry though, Kansas is clearly the model if Trump wins, and if Hillary wins, I'm sure a country of parents screaming about having to lay out hundreds of dollars per student in school learning/cleaning supplies, clamoring for more funding (of something actually useful) will result in HRC and the Democrats having whoever gets the most voucher school contributions in their caucus writing a law that codifies middle-class parents being on the hook for whatever Nancy Pelosi deems an 'acceptable' level of expense.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted By: the janitor
It seems like the administrators are the ones that actively shaft the teachers. Well, the parents do too, but they don't get much control over the $$.


Some of these new schools, I've heard tell students get to actively shaft the teachers!


Positive discipline.

The kids can do what they want.

The thing with being in the classroom with the kids, they smell BS so you got to keep it real.

Admins can be tyrants and force incongruent frames but you can't really do that as a teacher and expect the kids to follow you.

Don't get me started about Instructional Coaching.

That is the latest way to divert money from the teachers, which is # 1 goal in all educational decisions.

Follow the money!
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: the janitor
I wonder about the right and left trying to keep the money from the teachers bit. I mean, I get that neither side likes giving money to anyone but their pet cause, but I'm not sure they are actively trying to shaft the teachers,.


Pesky teachers cost a lot of money.

The admins think they are managers at Google living the high life.

My office chair has poop stains on into from where I diarrea-ed on it four years ago.

I got a 1998 Dell computer that is so slow.

You go to the admins offices and it looks like an expensive hotel. everything is glass and stainless steel. There is even a starbuck on the first floor.

Everyone, even the students working there, sits on Herman Miller chairs with the latest apple computers with these giant screens.

So funny.

I could cry.


Posted By: the janitor

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 04:08 PM

same story at the school my Mom taught at, as well as numerous aunts/uncles. It sounds like, at least at the elementary and middle school levels, that the teachers and the maintenance crew have a shared misery platform with the administrators. ifallalot should probably add administrators to his guillotine list
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
You saw the color of people's skin there....not me ya dumb racist. I don't care what color some criminal is......if they're blocking the road and threatening people simply because of the color of their skin or because they are unlucky enough to be on that highway....I'm gonna wish you run over the minute those motorists feel the least bit unsafe.

PS: The truth is color blind....unlike you. NGFY Buttercup!


This is just completely dishonest. I don't care how stupid you are, you have to at least know you're just spewing bullshit here. In the above post you are, for all intents and purposes, simply lying.

And stop telling us we don't know what's in your heart because that too is a lie. You've been very clear in this forum about the things you do, and the things you don't, care about. You've been very clear about the people you do, and the people you don't, care about. You've been very clear that there is little, if any, room in your heart for black Americans.

By all means, go ahead and call me a racist. It means nothing coming from you, because you're too stupid to know what the word even means. foreheadslap

But if you ever call me "Buttercup" again, I'll be coming for you. fight
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 05:45 PM

Whatever you say there Buttercup. dancing
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 05:51 PM

Question: There were a lot of dumbass occupy wallstreet types blocking highways and harassing motorists. Is it racist to wish them squished in your world?
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Whatever you say there Buttercup. dancing


I hate you.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.


Don't get me wrong. I KNOW it's not the teachers pushing the white privilege garbage. It's the admins and some snooty, elitist parents for the most part. Teachers are usually the pawns in any "change" to public education policy. There are lots of good teachers wanting to make sure kids gets get the best education for our times as possible. But there's a few that willingly promote and toe the line of the admins too. It's a sad struggle and state of affairs in our declining rank of education internationally.

Emphasis is more on social, environmental and "feelz" justice than on what schools SHOULD be teaching which is ever challenging math, science and language skills (STEM). Kids are not coming out prepared for even community college, let alone a trade like at least we used to. All the "shop" classes are disappearing from high schools, so skills acquired in those fields go wanting. Some schools are bringing them back, but few and far between.

SJW education does not belong in the curriculum, unless it's considered an "elective" type class, like "creative writing" is HS, JC's or university. Even then it should come with disclaimers before enrolling.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 07:53 PM

Parents need to assume more control over their kids' education. Starting with holding them accountable for their conduct and performance at school. The days of assuming the schools will enable, encourage or reward responsible behavior and punish misbehavior are over.

Even if your kid goes to a shtty school that's still a significant resource to be exploited. They can still learn how to read and write and engage in critical thinking as well as interacting with the asshole contingent that exists in every endeavor in life we undertake. . The parent does need to be the parent, though.


IMO, bad parenting has caused WAY more problems for our society than bad schools.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 08:04 PM

The indoctrination begins early on. This is a worksheet sent home for homework for one of my children when they were in the 3rd grade.


Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
The indoctrination begins early on. This is a worksheet sent home for homework for one of my children when they were in the 3rd grade.





I'm betting you weren't able to help them much with their homework by the 3rd grade.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 08:49 PM

What is it about trying to improve our environment that makes conservatives so uppity? There's huge money to be made - why not jump in?
Posted By: GromsMom

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.


Don't get me wrong. I KNOW it's not the teachers pushing the white privilege garbage. It's the admins and some snooty, elitist parents for the most part. Teachers are usually the pawns in any "change" to public education policy. There are lots of good teachers wanting to make sure kids gets get the best education for our times as possible. But there's a few that willingly promote and toe the line of the admins too. It's a sad struggle and state of affairs in our declining rank of education internationally.

Emphasis is more on social, environmental and "feelz" justice than on what schools SHOULD be teaching which is ever challenging math, science and language skills (STEM). Kids are not coming out prepared for even community college, let alone a trade like at least we used to. All the "shop" classes are disappearing from high schools, so skills acquired in those fields go wanting. Some schools are bringing them back, but few and far between.

SJW education does not belong in the curriculum, unless it's considered an "elective" type class, like "creative writing" is HS, JC's or university. Even then it should come with disclaimers before enrolling.


You don't know Sh$t. Speaking out of your A$$ as usual.

You don't have kids and you aren't in the field of education.

Feelz...
SJW's...
White privellage..
PC culture...
Libbies...

Did you get these from the big book of conservatard ranting skills? roflmao roflmao
Posted By: rice

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsMom
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.


Don't get me wrong. I KNOW it's not the teachers pushing the white privilege garbage. It's the admins and some snooty, elitist parents for the most part. Teachers are usually the pawns in any "change" to public education policy. There are lots of good teachers wanting to make sure kids gets get the best education for our times as possible. But there's a few that willingly promote and toe the line of the admins too. It's a sad struggle and state of affairs in our declining rank of education internationally.

Emphasis is more on social, environmental and "feelz" justice than on what schools SHOULD be teaching which is ever challenging math, science and language skills (STEM). Kids are not coming out prepared for even community college, let alone a trade like at least we used to. All the "shop" classes are disappearing from high schools, so skills acquired in those fields go wanting. Some schools are bringing them back, but few and far between.

SJW education does not belong in the curriculum, unless it's considered an "elective" type class, like "creative writing" is HS, JC's or university. Even then it should come with disclaimers before enrolling.


You don't know Sh$t. Speaking out of your A$$ as usual.

You don't have kids and you aren't in the field of education.

Feelz...
SJW's...
White privellage..
PC culture...
Libbies...

Did you get these from the big book of conservatard ranting skills? roflmao roflmao


He left out the fisting. shrug
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy



IMO, bad parenting has caused WAY more problems for our society than bad schools.





This X a zillion

Inconsistent caregiving at a young age is the root of a lot of evil.

You need unconditional love till 2; then you need love with conditions.

Surf dog you are missing the point.

SJW bs is a money grab. Nothing more.

When the right is in power they do the same money grab.

People--they're kunts!

That is my thesis to me erbb dissertation.
Posted By: GromsMom

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy



IMO, bad parenting has caused WAY more problems for our society than bad schools.





This X a zillion

Inconsistent caregiving at a young age is the root of a lot of evil.

You need unconditional love till 2; then you need love with conditions.

Surf dog you are missing the point.

SJW bs is a money grab. Nothing more.

When the right is in power they do the same money grab.

People--they're kunts!

That is my thesis to me erbb dissertation.


No no no,

You got it all wrong.

It's the Lib-prog SJW PC "feelz" culture to blame (LPSJWPC-F for short)

Didn't they teach you that in Rush Limbaugh's "how to argue with a Libby" 101 trout
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:09 PM

Here, let me help:


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Question: There were a lot of dumbass cyclists blocking highways and harassing motorists. Is it racist to wish them squished in your world?


Much better...
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsMom
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy



IMO, bad parenting has caused WAY more problems for our society than bad schools.





This X a zillion

Inconsistent caregiving at a young age is the root of a lot of evil.

You need unconditional love till 2; then you need love with conditions.

Surf dog you are missing the point.

SJW bs is a money grab. Nothing more.

When the right is in power they do the same money grab.

People--they're kunts!

That is my thesis to me erbb dissertation.


No no no,

You got it all wrong.

It's the Lib-prog SJW PC "feelz" culture to blame (LPSJWPC-F for short)

Didn't they teach you that in Rush Limbaugh's "how to argue with a Libby" 101 trout


I love that it's a money grab dressed up as caring about people.

It reminds me of Christian Rock.

You use teen rebellion, 4/4 beats on rock drum sets, and distorted guitars to send the message that Jesus is the way.

Ironically enough, rock should be at it's best about flipping your parents and the J-man the bird.

I like this one. It's a guilty pleasure.



It makes me want to go church bone some sexy Christain sluts!
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:15 PM

By the time someone commits to an opinion on an emotional level, no amount of facts, reason or evidence is going to budge them off of that opinion. Hence the utility of at least forming the opinion on our own prior to committing to it. And to qualifying those opinions subject to the information at hand.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:21 PM

I see people want something to be true and then they look for reasons out there to support that idea.

I'm always checking myself.

From what I see, so few people do.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:23 PM

top
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:24 PM

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Can you please explain for me what "conceived in racism" means????


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise


so did you have any other questions Mr Constitutional Scholar ?? )











Rich getricher !! ) = everything as planned !! )

shrug




Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective

religious views on our daily lives


using the power of law.



shrug

This is just the tip of the iceberg !! )

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/racist-history-portland/492035/
Is just continuing the work of …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise
shrug
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/26/16 10:58 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
The indoctrination begins early on. This is a worksheet sent home for homework for one of my children when they were in the 3rd grade.




What's wrong with this? It's all true
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Here, let me help:


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Question: There were a lot of dumbass cyclists blocking highways and harassing motorists. Is it racist to wish them squished in your world?


Much better...


If they are dressed like Lance Armstrong you are free to run them down.
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 07:11 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsMom
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.


Don't get me wrong. I KNOW it's not the teachers pushing the white privilege garbage. It's the admins and some snooty, elitist parents for the most part. Teachers are usually the pawns in any "change" to public education policy. There are lots of good teachers wanting to make sure kids gets get the best education for our times as possible. But there's a few that willingly promote and toe the line of the admins too. It's a sad struggle and state of affairs in our declining rank of education internationally.

Emphasis is more on social, environmental and "feelz" justice than on what schools SHOULD be teaching which is ever challenging math, science and language skills (STEM). Kids are not coming out prepared for even community college, let alone a trade like at least we used to. All the "shop" classes are disappearing from high schools, so skills acquired in those fields go wanting. Some schools are bringing them back, but few and far between.

SJW education does not belong in the curriculum, unless it's considered an "elective" type class, like "creative writing" is HS, JC's or university. Even then it should come with disclaimers before enrolling.


You don't know Sh$t. Speaking out of your A$$ as usual.

You don't have kids and you aren't in the field of education.

Feelz...
SJW's...
White privellage..
PC culture...
Libbies...

Did you get these from the big book of conservatard ranting skills? roflmao roflmao


The realities of the "new normal" are hitting people like IBGromsMom in the face.

You can't deny it's happening, so you condescend to deflect.

GromsMom is actually pretty fitting since you kind of like that tranny reach-around waking up the next morning. Some of us know who you are. loser
Posted By: GromsMom

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 07:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: GromsMom
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Keep in mind that you don't work in education. That puts you at a disadvantage when it comes to understanding.

Here is the deal.

A ton of money goes into education. The Right has always hated this. All their effort goes into keeping teachers from getting it.

Then the left came into power and they hate it too. And they are playing the same game.

The extreme liberal stuff is just small group of liberal bureaucrats asserting power.

Most teachers, who are moderately liberal, are not bureaucrats by nature. They just want to help the kids.

At my school the admins are really pushing this SJW bs, but that is about controlling the teachers, whom they see as overpaid labor.

Most teachers are not pushing this.

I'm pretty liberal but I'm a broken record with the kids. Here is my liberal propaganda message I am spreading: "Come to class, do your work, don't make excuses."

Most kids like hearing this because they know it's true.

This is what most teachers are pushing too.

The problems with education are social problems. It has to do with poverty and trauma.

People scapegoat the teachers because they are an easy target.


Don't get me wrong. I KNOW it's not the teachers pushing the white privilege garbage. It's the admins and some snooty, elitist parents for the most part. Teachers are usually the pawns in any "change" to public education policy. There are lots of good teachers wanting to make sure kids gets get the best education for our times as possible. But there's a few that willingly promote and toe the line of the admins too. It's a sad struggle and state of affairs in our declining rank of education internationally.

Emphasis is more on social, environmental and "feelz" justice than on what schools SHOULD be teaching which is ever challenging math, science and language skills (STEM). Kids are not coming out prepared for even community college, let alone a trade like at least we used to. All the "shop" classes are disappearing from high schools, so skills acquired in those fields go wanting. Some schools are bringing them back, but few and far between.

SJW education does not belong in the curriculum, unless it's considered an "elective" type class, like "creative writing" is HS, JC's or university. Even then it should come with disclaimers before enrolling.


You don't know Sh$t. Speaking out of your A$$ as usual.

You don't have kids and you aren't in the field of education.

Feelz...
SJW's...
White privellage..
PC culture...
Libbies...

Did you get these from the big book of conservatard ranting skills? roflmao roflmao


The realities of the "new normal" are hitting people like IBGromsMom in the face.

You can't deny it's happening, so you condescend to deflect.

GromsMom is actually pretty fitting since you kind of like that tranny reach-around waking up the next morning. Some of us know who you are. loser


I was condescending because that's the best strategy for dealing with people like you and Gromsdad. No point in discussing something when you've already reached the conclusion based on your own biases.

If you want to discuss an issue properly here's a suggestion: leave your prejudices and biases out of it.

Try not using one of the dozen little pet words you can't go a minute without. Give a try for a change.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 10:34 AM

RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Can you please explain for me what "conceived in racism" means????


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise


so did you have any other questions Mr Constitutional Scholar ?? )


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bill-oreilly-slaves-white-house-226257

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/bill-oreilly-slammed-saying-slaves-who-built-white/nr5mk/

roflmao
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I see people want something to be true and then they look for reasons out there to support that idea.

I'm always checking myself.

From what I see, so few people do.



Quote:
In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.


Some gems here Autoprax:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_kenneth_galbraith.html
Posted By: GWS

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )



You put this up like ten times a day. FYI, nobody responds because nobody knows WTF you're babbling about. At least come up with a new one. Maybe, WET DOGS HAVE MUDDY PAWS!!) or something. Mix it up a little.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/27/16 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I see people want something to be true and then they look for reasons out there to support that idea.

I'm always checking myself.

From what I see, so few people do.




Quote:
In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.


Some gems here Autoprax:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_kenneth_galbraith.html


This one is good for now:

"Politics is the art of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." John Kenneth Galbraith
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/28/16 06:52 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
Originally Posted By: sirfun
RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )



You put this up like ten times a day. FYI, nobody responds because nobody knows WTF you're babbling about. At least come up with a new one. Maybe, WET DOGS HAVE MUDDY PAWS!!) or something. Mix it up a little.


dancing
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/28/16 06:56 AM





Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious


views on our daily lives

using the power of law.



Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/28/16 06:59 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
Originally Posted By: sirfun
RACISTS ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN MUSLIMS !! )



You put this up like ten times a day. FYI, nobody responds because nobody knows WTF you're babbling about. At least come up with a new one. Maybe, WET DOGS HAVE MUDDY PAWS!!) or something. Mix it up a little.

roflmao laughingpointing roflmao



Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 08:53 AM

monkey GromsDad understands this !! ( :

Originally Posted By: sirfun




Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views
on our daily lives

using the power of law.



Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )



A federal appeals court decisively struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law on Friday, saying its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black turnout at the polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/fed...-provision.html


Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 11:03 AM

“Photo IDs are required to purchase Sudafed, cash a check, board an airplane or enter a federal courtroom,” Mr. McCrory said. “Yet three Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while also maligning our state.”

Yep.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
“Photo IDs are required to purchase Sudafed, cash a check, board an airplane or enter a federal courtroom,” Mr. McCrory said. “Yet three Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while also maligning our state.”

Yep.


If you can buy a gun without a photo ID, you should be able to vote without it.
Freedom baby.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
“Photo IDs are required to purchase Sudafed, cash a check, board an airplane or enter a federal courtroom,” Mr. McCrory said. “Yet three Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while also maligning our state.”

Yep.


I like how you found a false analogy and then agreed with it.

That is probably easier than coming up with your own faulty reasoning.

The nervous system loves to preserve resources.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
“Photo IDs are required to purchase Sudafed, cash a check, board an airplane or enter a federal courtroom,” Mr. McCrory said. “Yet three Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while also maligning our state.”

Yep.

It should be illegal to be forced to show your ID in all of Jose situations as well

Why are you such a fascist? Why do you hate freedom?
Posted By: barnod

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
The indoctrination begins early on. This is a worksheet sent home for homework for one of my children when they were in the 3rd grade.





foreheadslap
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
“Photo IDs are required to purchase Sudafed, cash a check, board an airplane or enter a federal courtroom,” Mr. McCrory said. “Yet three Democratic judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while also maligning our state.”

Yep.

It should be illegal to be forced to show your ID in all of Jose situations as well

Why are you such a fascist? Why do you hate freedom?


"Jose situations?" This is about black voters, let's leave the Mexicans out of it.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:28 PM

My autocorrect must know I'm in Baja right now
Posted By: ElOgro

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
My autocorrect must know I'm in Baja right now


If you didn't carry an Irishman under each arm you're not a patriot.
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
My autocorrect must know I'm in Baja right now


And you're here on the erBB. The waves must be pumping. wave2
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 05:12 PM

Racism is real. It's a sentiment thats tapped into and exploited by polititians for personal game. Donald Trump is a perfect example of it. But saying its only a distraction for political purposes probably makes you a racist.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/30/16 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
My autocorrect must know I'm in Baja right now


And you're here on the erBB. The waves must be pumping. wave2

Taking a break wave2
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/31/16 09:24 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 07/31/16 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Racism is real. It's a sentiment thats tapped into and exploited by polititians for personal game. Donald Trump is a perfect example of it. But saying its only a distraction for political purposes probably makes you a racist.


It's socioeconomic, silly.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/01/16 08:37 AM

https://www.eurweb.com/2016/07/will-smith-speaks-racism-says-isnt-getting-worse-getting-filmed/

h t t p s : / / w w w .eurweb.com/2016/07/will-smith-speaks-racism-says-isnt-getting-worse-getting-filmed/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/03/16 08:48 AM

ht t p : / / n y m ag .c o m/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/the-gop-has-made-its-peace-with-trumps-racism.html

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/the-gop-has-made-its-peace-with-trumps-racism.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/04/16 09:30 AM

h t t p s : / / w w w . w a s h i n g t o n p o s t . c o m/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/postevery...-voter-id-laws/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/05/16 08:45 AM

h t t p s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/why-some-whites-are-waking-up-to-racism/2016/08/03/5f2c2386-5051-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/soc...7583_story.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 08:51 AM

http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkish-fm-says-austria-is-capital-of-radical-racism/622333
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 01:22 PM

It's the language barrier, even when using the same words--phrasing choices, sentence construction, connotation, hierarchy of values, etc.

We don't even know what each other are saying.

BEWARE: It is the burden of the sender to make communication work, not the recipient.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 02:10 PM

Race relations were a lot better just a couple years ago than they are now. I guess this is what passes these days for making social progress. At this rate, I can't wait to see what it looks like 2 years from now.

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
It's the language barrier, even when using the same words--phrasing choices, sentence construction, connotation, hierarchy of values, etc.

We don't even know what each other are saying.

BEWARE: It is the burden of the sender to make communication work, not the recipient.


What do you mean?

I think it's a team effort.

You left out eye contact, facial expression and vocal intonation.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: test_article
It's the language barrier, even when using the same words--phrasing choices, sentence construction, connotation, hierarchy of values, etc.

We don't even know what each other are saying.

BEWARE: It is the burden of the sender to make communication work, not the recipient.


What do you mean?

I think it's a team effort.

You left out eye contact, facial expression and vocal intonation.


Are you joking right now?

I can't tell.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: test_article
It's the language barrier, even when using the same words--phrasing choices, sentence construction, connotation, hierarchy of values, etc.

We don't even know what each other are saying.

BEWARE: It is the burden of the sender to make communication work, not the recipient.


What do you mean?

I think it's a team effort.

You left out eye contact, facial expression and vocal intonation.


I don't think of eye contact, facial expression and intonation as language-specific. Sure, they are important modes of expression though.

Senders send. Recipients take tests, i.e., send it back.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 05:10 PM

Communication?

Of which language is a part of?

Give Porge's book "Poly Vagal Theory" a try. You'll dig it.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Communication?

Of which language is a part of?

Give Porge's book "Poly Vagal Theory" a try. You'll dig it.
Wasn't Peter North in the movie version?
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 05:38 PM

I did attend a seminar on active listening once. Afterward, I still thought it's the sender that bears the burden.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 06:42 PM

Well, if you want to be understood, for sure.

I'm an English major so words are a big part of what I do.

But I've really increased my awareness of non verbal communication. It's like an invisible world has opened up to me.

A lot of times, content doesn't matter.

This is when people are speaking in proximity to each other, I'm talking about.

Not like this.

You can't tell I'm smiling and my facial muscles are moving around in a friendly manner.

But they are. mad
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 08:30 PM


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views
on our daily lives

using the power of law.



getting some people to think about this simple concept inflicts more terror than watching a beheading video with the sound turned WAY UP but hey

I'm doing them a favor !! ) shrug

h t tp s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...e-black-voters/




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.edc4f2c6139b

h t t p s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/28/she-thought-her-server-was-great-then-she-saw-her-racist-snapchat-post/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_3_na&utm_term=.edc4f2c6139b









Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 08:43 PM

It's as if when language fails, better to smile and move the facial muscles in approving ways. I'll tell the Black Lives Matter folks.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
I did attend a seminar on active listening once. Afterward, I still thought it's the sender that bears the burden.


Lol...
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/06/16 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Well, if you want to be understood, for sure.

I'm an English major so words are a big part of what I do.

But I've really increased my awareness of non verbal communication. It's like an invisible world has opened up to me.

A lot of times, content doesn't matter.

This is when people are speaking in proximity to each other, I'm talking about.

Not like this.

You can't tell I'm smiling and my facial muscles are moving around in a friendly manner.

But they are. mad


Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 10:22 AM

monkeyhttp://theundefeated.com/features/can-america-make-black-lives-matter-without-making-white-lives-better/

http://theundefeated.com/features/can-am...e-lives-better/

Originally Posted By: sirfun

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views
on our daily lives

using the power of law.



getting some people to think about this simple concept inflicts more terror than watching a beheading video with the sound turned WAY UP but hey

I'm doing them a favor !! ) shrug

h t tp s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...e-black-voters/




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.edc4f2c6139b

h t t p s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/28/she-thought-her-server-was-great-then-she-saw-her-racist-snapchat-post/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_3_na&utm_term=.edc4f2c6139b









monkey
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Well, if you want to be understood, for sure.

I'm an English major so words are a big part of what I do.

But I've really increased my awareness of non verbal communication. It's like an invisible world has opened up to me.

A lot of times, content doesn't matter.

This is when people are speaking in proximity to each other, I'm talking about.

Not like this.

You can't tell I'm smiling and my facial muscles are moving around in a friendly manner.

But they are. mad




See, that is a friendly monkey who just wants to socially engage with me.

Nice, monkey.
Posted By: VanHook

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 03:48 PM

Posted By: Fredtool

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Lots of criminals get off for lack of evidence or lack of even being identified. Blacks most of all, in terms of their representation in the population. Our legal system puts the burden of proof on the state. A tie always goes to the runner.

In the Freddie Gray cases the state has their suspects. What they don't have is the evidence it takes to prove a crime was committed. Counting all their various allegations, the state is now 0-24. Meaning, they can't even prove any of the lesser charges.

You need to read up on the Freddie Gray Case The Baltimore Police refused to do their job and do a proper investigation. They turned on the prosecutor. and did as little as they could get away with in helping her. Don't be surprised that this doe not go to federal court and the Baltimore Police get a big shake up like what happened in Feguson MO.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 04:30 PM

The State said they had probable cause to prosecute 6 cops with crimes. If they DIDN'T have that evidence then why did they go to trial?

Some public interest lawyer who teaches law and George Washington University has filed a complaint with the Maryland Bar against Ms Mosby for her unprofessional and unethical conduct in the case, which include going to trial without probable cause as well as repeatedly withholding evidence from the cops' defense attorneys.

You can't blame the cops for the decisions she made.

Posted By: Fredtool

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: Gnudz
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
This needs to happen every time the protesters block a road and threaten motorists: https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/859826237478725/


Tell us again how much you value human life. foreheadslap


I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.


Both the KKK and BLM are democrat racial agitation groups. Same program just representing different races. Both equally despicable.

I believe in one America. Not a white one and not a black one. One America Fecal and if you don't like it you should leave.
Lets ee Yes at a point in time The KKK was very much what where known a " Dixiecrats" Southern White Racist that held onto the old per Civil War ideals of The South. In The civil rights era they fell away from The Democratic Party. Republicans saw an opening and actively when after that While Racist Vote. It was called the Southern Strategy. Reagan and Bush the first To get a boost from courting of the racist vote. Since then a old Dixiecrats wore allegiance to The Republican Party. The Party in turn embarrassed their race hate.
Posted By: Fredtool

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 05:00 PM

They had evidence to Take Those 6 to Trial. It is the duty of the Police to investigate at the request of the Persecutor The Police did do their job they very much did all that they could to throw the case. You Better believe that the FBI is conducting an investigation into The Baltimore Police. It is not up to the Police to be Judge Jury and executioner of anyone! Freddie Gray was in hand cuffs and in a locked police van. The Cops in question did not follow standard procedure by failing to put a set belt around Him. it may not be 1st degree murder but it sure is neglagent Homicide.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Fredtool
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GromsDad

I don't value the life of criminals and dirtbags at all. I just hope natural selection and the law weeds them out from society.


Just goes to show that the rightards value only the 2nd amendment and even then, they cherry pick who it applies to.

They would defend KKK's right to exist with their life but BLM and people protesting on the street need to be mowed down with a car immediately.


Both the KKK and BLM are democrat racial agitation groups. Same program just representing different races. Both equally despicable.

I believe in one America. Not a white one and not a black one. One America Fecal and if you don't like it you should leave.
Lets ee Yes at a point in time The KKK was very much what where known a " Dixiecrats" Southern White Racist that held onto the old per Civil War ideals of The South. In The civil rights era they fell away from The Democratic Party. Republicans saw an opening and actively when after that While Racist Vote. It was called the Southern Strategy. Reagan and Bush the first To get a boost from courting of the racist vote. Since then a old Dixiecrats wore allegiance to The Republican Party. The Party in turn embarrassed their race hate.


*embraced. But yes, they should be embarrassed.

No one buys your "one America" bullshit Grommy. There isn't a single person on the erBB more racially and politically divisive than you. loser

When have you ever shown the slightest bit of compassion for any race/religion other than yours? And don't even get me started when it comes to your political views. What a joke.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 05:34 PM

The cops already tried were charged with 24 allegations, including allegations of involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment, 2nd degree assault, misconduct in office, etc. So there were plenty of lesser charges for a jury or a judge to find them guilty of even if they weren't buying one of the 2nd degree murder charges.

0-24. And you can't even blame it on a racist jury because 3 of the trials were decided by a professional judge. Who isn't white, BTW.

Long story short, the State had a dead person and they had several people they suspected were guilty of killing him. What they didn't have was sufficient evidence to prove ANY type of crime had been committed.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 05:36 PM

Professional judge is part of the same protective justice class.

Was the judge appointed or elected?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/07/16 05:39 PM

I don't know.

Quote:
Barry Glenn Williams has been an Associate Judge with the Baltimore City Circuit Court since December 2005. He has overseen several trials and hearings in the Freddie Gray case.

Here's more about the judge:

Barry Glenn Williams

Age: 53

Title: Associate judge, Baltimore City Circuit Court, since December 2005

Career highlights: Led court's criminal division from 2012 until January.
Chaired Criminal Justice Coordinating Council for Baltimore, 2012-2014.
Special litigation counsel for the civil rights division of the U.S. Justice Department, 2002-2005.
Trial attorney in the civil rights division of the U.S. Department of Justice, 1997-2002.
Assistant state's attorney in Baltimore, 1989-1997


Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/08/16 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
monkey GromsDad understands this !! ( :

Originally Posted By: sirfun




Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

]The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views
on our daily lives

using the power of law.



Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )



A federal appeals court decisively struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law on Friday, saying its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black turnout at the polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/fed...-provision.html






h t tp s : / / w w w . washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/29/the-smoking-gun-proving-north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-black-voters/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...e-black-voters/




wave2
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/08/16 09:01 AM

http://theconversation.com/does-racism-make-us-sick-63641
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/09/16 10:08 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/09/the-original-underclass/492731/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/10/16 09:12 AM

ht t p : / / w w w . startribune.com/an-education-a-black-teenager-encounters-racism-in-the-twin-cities-suburbs/389598041/

TRUE RELIGION !! )

http://www.startribune.com/an-education-...urbs/389598041/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/10/16 01:44 PM

I know people hate it when white males say this but in my late teens and early 20s I was always getting hassled by law enforcement.

I was mistaken for a thief at my sisters house, thrown on the ground cuffed and kicked.

If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.

Being a young man is tough.

Black parents are quoted in the media saying they tell their sons to be careful around law enforcement.

I remember telling myself the same thing as a young man.

Everyone be careful!

And decriminalize drugs.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/10/16 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I know people hate it when white males say this but in my late teens and early 20s I was always getting hassled by law enforcement.

I was mistaken for a thief at my sisters house, thrown on the ground cuffed and kicked.

If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.

Being a young man is tough.

Black parents are quoted in the media saying they tell their sons to be careful around law enforcement.

I remember telling myself the same thing as a young man.

Everyone be careful!

And decriminalize drugs.



good advice !! )

and I am NOT accusing you of being normal !! )

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-1468001199-htmlstory.html

took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this," said Gingrich, who served as speaker from 1990 until 1995 and who represented an Atlanta-area congressional district for two decades.

"If you are a normal white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America," he said.

White Americans "instinctively underestimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk," he said.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/10/16 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax


If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.



If you were brown or black you probably wouldn't be alive.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/10/16 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I know people hate it when white males say this but in my late teens and early 20s I was always getting hassled by law enforcement.

I was mistaken for a thief at my sisters house, thrown on the ground cuffed and kicked.

If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.

Being a young man is tough.

Black parents are quoted in the media saying they tell their sons to be careful around law enforcement.

I remember telling myself the same thing as a young man.

Everyone be careful!

And decriminalize drugs.



good advice !! )

and I am NOT accusing you of being normal !! )

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-1468001199-htmlstory.html

took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this," said Gingrich, who served as speaker from 1990 until 1995 and who represented an Atlanta-area congressional district for two decades.

"If you are a normal white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America," he said.

White Americans "instinctively underestimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk," he said.




Newt? Pfft. That guy's a RINO. He's pandering. He's trying to keep the elite in power. Haha.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 09:17 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/opinion/a-policing-culture-built-on-racism-in-baltimore.html
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax


If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.



If you were brown or black you probably wouldn't be alive.


If this were true all the black kids would be dead. And the problem would be solved.

This is about faulty neuroception and trauma.

You cannot have an informed talk about race without understanding trauma and its effect on the nervous system.

It's fun to watch people talk about this issue and miss the point.

Yet I get it and I'm an idiot.

Maybe I get it because I'm an idiot?

Anyway, before we continue this conversation I need you all to get an up right chair and a cup of coffee and start reading. (I'm doing the Groms Dad giving a command thing.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvagal_Theory

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...bddnonngd_e_p14

Then after you read, you got to synthesize this info. That takes work too.

Oh, just forget it . . .
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax


If I was brown or black that would be proof that I was a target or racism.



If you were brown or black you probably wouldn't be alive.


If this were true all the black kids would be dead. And the problem would be solved.

This is about faulty neuroception and trauma.

You cannot have an informed talk about race without understanding trauma and its effect on the nervous system.

It's fun to watch people talk about this issue and miss the point.

Yet I get it and I'm an idiot.

Maybe I get it because I'm an idiot?

Anyway, before we continue this conversation I need you all to get an up right chair and a cup of coffee and start reading. (I'm doing the Groms Dad giving a command thing.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvagal_Theory

https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...bddnonngd_e_p14

Then after you read, you got to synthesize this info. That takes work too.

Oh, just forget it . .
.


enthusiasm, ENTHUSIASM ENTHUSIASM !! )
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 03:03 PM

The problem with race current baiting phase we are going through is no one is willing to make the meaningful changes.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 04:19 PM

http://tides.mobilegeographics.com/locations/6433.html
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 04:51 PM

Malapropism!

I'm not going to change it.

It's there to keep me humble.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 05:42 PM

Quote:
If this were true all the black kids would be dead.


All?

No.

But you'd have a much better chance to die or be imprisoned if you were black and got in trouble. Much more likely to get a slap on the wrist if yer white.

That's just how it is. shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/11/16 06:04 PM

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/12/16 09:27 AM

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/how-racism-kept-the-worlds-fastest-swim-stroke-out-of-the-pool
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/12/16 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace


.
Much more likely to get a slap on the wrist if yer white.



Actually, I had guns drawn on me, I was thrown on the ground, cuffed and kicked and told to shut the fvck up." All the while I fully complied.

Gotta love that white privilege!

But whatever!

Miss my point if you so choose to.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/12/16 03:35 PM

Yeah but did you die?

wink2 <<<< in absence of facial cues.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/12/16 06:53 PM

Yes, I'm dead inside. But not from the cops.

I'm disassociating, which actually isn't a bad thing in certain cases.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/13/16 10:13 AM

http://theundefeated.com/features/do-not-treat-criminals-like-citizens/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/13/16 01:11 PM

So how we gonna fix it?

Who's against solving the race problem?

We got bigger fish to fry. Lets fix this and move on.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/14/16 09:53 AM

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-we-learned-about-trumps-supporters-this-week

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/15/16 09:07 AM

http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/opinion...0e9bb52577.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/15/16 09:15 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/15/16 09:16 AM


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.



enforcement !! )





Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/15/16 04:24 PM

If the fundamentalist christians were in power they would be asserting for sure.

Left or right, whoever is in power is going to try to clean out the cupboards.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/16/16 12:25 PM

A GOOD READ but NSFW due to the N word !! )

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/flailing-r...815-gqsuiq.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/17/16 08:24 AM

http://theweek.com/articles/641981/donald-trump-losing-war-political-correctness
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/17/16 08:57 AM

I called it months ago. Death by a thousand cuts.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/17/16 09:31 AM

AP-would you go back and edit your Zika dissertation

with double spacing and paragraph breaks ?? )shrug
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/17/16 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
AP-would you go back and edit your Zika dissertation

with double spacing and paragraph breaks ?? )shrug


Doesn't the double spacing really give the reader room to breathe?

Check this out

A report last week has raised questions about a pesticide used to kill mosquito larvae, linking its use to the increase in cases of microcephaly in Brazil. But researchers say that's an unlikely connection.The insecticide, called pyriproxyfen, is added to water to prevent mosquito larvae from hatching and growing properly.This story is part of NPR's ongoing coverage of the Zika virus.Doctors in Argentina with a group called "Physicians Against Fumigated Towns" came out with a report last week that said Brazil had started using the chemical in drinking water a few months before health officials began noticing an increase in newborns with small heads."It's a hypothesis, a probability," says Dr. Medardo Avila Vazquez, a pediatrician in Cordoba, Argentina, and the main author of the report. "And for us, it's more likely that it's the chemical larvicide and not Zika."
The message quickly spread in Brazilian media, and last Saturday health officials in one Brazilian state announced that they would stop using pyriproxyfen in drinking water.
Even though there is a lot of skepticism about this report, the idea that the chemical is responsible has taken off. One of the main arguments is that if the compound can interfere with insect development, then it might also interfere with human development.
But that's not the case, says Bruce Gordon, coordinator of the Water, Sanitation, Hygiene and Health group at the World Health Organization.
"Pyriproxyfen actually mimics a hormone found in invertebrates, so it basically interferes with their development, but mammals don't have that development process," Gordon says. "There's absolutely no concern for reproductive effects that have been raised for this chemical."
Plus, the Brazilian Ministry of Health directs state and city officials to use a mere 0.0003 ounces of the chemical per gallon of water. That concentration is enough to kill mosquito larvae, but it's much lower than what WHO has deemed to be a safe concentration in drinking water. "It's miles below the sort of acceptable recommended doses or the maximum doses you would apply," Gordon says. "You'd have to drink hundreds of liters of water to get to anywhere near potentially risky level." In a statement Tuesday, Sumitomo Chemical, the company that manufactures pyriproxyfen, said that the product "has shown no effects on the reproductive system or nervous system in mammals, and has been approved and registered for use in the past 20 years by the authorities of around 40 countries around the world." It's unclear how many countries actually use pyriproxyfen in their drinking water. For example, it's approved as a minor-use pesticide in the U.S. but only for crops and lawns, or to control fleas and ticks on pets, not for human ingestion. A study in a Cambodian village used it in water storage jars but did not follow up on long-term health effects. Toxicologists have fed the chemical to guinea pigs, dogs, mice, lactating goats, laying hens, and pregnant rats and rabbits. At very high doses, it gave some animals mild anemia and liver and kidney problems. When given to the goats and hens, extremely small amounts of pyriproxyfen were found in their milk and egg yolks. (You can read about the toxicology studies here.) Before pyriproxyfen, the Ministry of Health in Brazil distributed a different larvicide, temephos, to treat drinking water. It switched to pyriproxyfen in 2014, when mosquitoes became resistant to temephos.
"So far there is no evidence suggesting that [pyriproxyfen] could be the problem," says Dr. Marcos Espinal, director of communicable diseases and health analysis at the Pan American Health Organization. The Zika virus is, he says, guilty until proven innocent.
He and other health officials maintain that it's hard to ignore the mounting evidence that Zika is responsible for microcephaly. The virus has been found in the placentas of infected women and in the brains of babies born to mothers who had the virus while pregnant. Still, some doctors say it's better to be safe than sorry.
Shortly after the Argentine report came out the Brazilian Association of Collective Health, known as ABRASCO, put out its own statement calling for "immediate suspension of pyriproxyfen" and similar chemicals in drinking water.
"We need more information, since it's something new," says Dr. Gustavo Bretas, an epidemiologist with ABRASCO who worked for 15 years with the Pan American Health Organization. "The position of ABRASCO is that we should try to minimize the use of larvicides and insecticide," he says, and instead focus on improving people's access to clean water. Many households store water in tanks or buckets, in areas where piped water is intermittent. Those create perfect mosquito breeding sites. "I think that's the most important message ... that we should prioritize access to water and sewage system, which is too deficient in the country," says Bretas. By investing in infrastructure, the government can ensure that mosquitoes don't have the chance to breed in stagnant tanks and buckets in the first place. In the end, the most compelling point against pyriproxyfen's role in Brazil's health issues is this: Health officials in the state of Pernambuco, the so-called epicenter of microcephaly, say that in the three cities reporting the most cases — Recife, Jaboatao and Paulista — pyriproxyfen is not in use.

Moral of the story?

Richie Rich's security comes from a strong middle class.

This is me talking now. Not that liberal faggotry that is NPR.

--LF out!

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/18/16 08:49 AM



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/magazi...edefine-it.html





wave2
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/18/16 07:30 PM



This was a good one.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/19/16 09:03 AM

h t t p : / / w w w . t heroot.com/articles/politics/2016/08/why-is-it-so-hard-for-pundits-to-admit-that-americas-racism-is-whats-driving-trumps-campaign/

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics...rumps-campaign/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/19/16 02:12 PM

I don't think trump is a racist.

I think he just goes after the low hanging fruit in search of the weakness that gets his desired outcome.

Which is worse than a racist.

Basically he lacks fair mindedness.

But most people do, in degrees. He is self centered X 100000000.

That is fine if you own your own company and you got money to buy your way out of trouble but this is a bridge too far for him.

Thanks you for reading my balanced journalism.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/19/16 03:56 PM

We need more of that comrade.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/19/16 05:28 PM

White supremacist stabs interracial couple in WA because they're an interracial couple - where's the outrage conservatives?

http://www.ibtimes.com/white-supremacist...-matter-2404146
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/19/16 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
White supremacist stabs interracial couple in WA because they're an interracial couple - where's the outrage conservatives?

http://www.ibtimes.com/white-supremacist...-matter-2404146



He probably did it because somebody called him a cracker and reminded him of all the terrible discrimination he endured in his life.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/20/16 06:09 AM

MISCENGENATION!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/20/16 08:50 AM

http://theweek.com/articles/642393/donald-trump-knows-exactly-what-hes-doing
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/20/16 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
White supremacist stabs interracial couple in WA because they're an interracial couple - where's the outrage conservatives?

http://www.ibtimes.com/white-supremacist...-matter-2404146



He probably did it because somebody called him a cracker and reminded him of all the terrible discrimination he endured in his life.
I'm outraged.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/21/16 10:40 AM

Overt racism is generally looked down upon in more mainstream conservative circles, but the antifeminism of white supremacists — especially their fixation on the notion that white women aren’t cranking out enough white babies — has created a pathway for their ideas to become more acceptable on the right.

If blatant white supremacy is not acceptable in mainstream conservative circles, opposition to feminism is completely standard on the right.

reedMOARhear !! ) ( :
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/19/where-se...hite-supremacy/

h t t p : / / w w w . s alon.com/2016/08/19/where-sexism-and-racism-meet-trumps-angela-merkel-comments-expose-the-overlap-between-antifeminism-and-white-supremacy/

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/21/16 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
MISCENGENATION!


I wanna screw japanese.

African

Egyption

South American

Australian
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/22/16 09:58 AM

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37312-when-king-came-up-against-chicago-racism
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/23/16 09:29 AM

h t t p : / / w w w .usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-08-22/racism-and-talk-of-religious-war-trump-staffs-online-posts

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/arti...fs-online-posts








h t t p : / / w w w . adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/richard-evans-throwing-bananas-at-black-sportsmen-has-been-recognised-as-racism-across-europe-for-decades/news-story/afcb5d4a634119b327507e7616755e0b

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opini...7507e7616755e0b
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/23/16 02:07 PM

It's also the mocker looking for the low hanging fruit.

Pardon my pun.

If his weak spot was people making fun of his mother, he would be showered in "you're momma" jokes.

If weight was his weak spot, the fat jokes would fly.

Look for the deep patterns.

It's not racism.

It't just people being dicks.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/24/16 01:31 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a...twitter-ireland
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/24/16 03:04 AM

So, there are assholes in Ireland too. I wonder if this particular knucklehead knows that he/she share ancestral homelands with this particular British African-American immigrant.


.@ireland It is insulting for you, who genetically will never be Irish, to think you can represent Ireland. Return to your ancestral lands.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/24/16 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
So, there are assholes in Ireland too. I wonder if this particular knucklehead knows that he/she share ancestral homelands with this particular British African-American immigrant.


.@ireland It is insulting for you, who genetically will never be Irish, to think you can represent Ireland. Return to your ancestral lands.

fooking Irish Master Race... its true
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/24/16 09:41 AM

http://theundefeated.com/features/this-is-not-a-column-about-ryan-lochte/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/24/16 11:25 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/24/leslie-jones-abuse-racism-hacking-website





roflmao
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 04:17 AM

Leslie Jones is a racist and a bully. She just hates two way streets is all.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 04:53 AM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Leslie Jones is a racist and a bully. She just hates two way streets is all.


Being a republican seems exhausting.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 05:05 AM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Leslie Jones is a racist and a bully. She just hates two way streets is all.


Totes. I laughed so hard when she illegally hacked that one dude's website at some point in the past and posted naked pictures of him, presumably to humiliate him and shut him up. Why can't people see this is just payback?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 08:28 AM

h t t p : / / w w w . huffingtonpost.com/sincere-kirabo/what-sam-harris-gets-wron_b_11680182.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sincere-kirabo/what-sam-harris-gets-wron_b_11680182.html



roflmao
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 02:28 PM












I like this one, where she tells her followers to get someone. Apparently this "getting someone" only applies to others. Now that this unfunny twat has been gotten herself, she's a victim.

Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Leslie Jones is a racist and a bully. She just hates two way streets is all.


Totes. I laughed so hard when she illegally hacked that one dude's website at some point in the past and posted naked pictures of him, presumably to humiliate him and shut him up. Why can't people see this is just payback?


I'm sure you felt that same way when you were furiously masturbating to the happening downloads.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 03:13 PM

Wait... you're actually offended by all that? Maybe we can find a safe space for you.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 03:42 PM

Who the fook cares about some shitty remake of some shitty '80s popcorn movie enough to get on twitter to troll someone?

I didn't care when I heard it was all female and I didn't care when I heard it bombed and I didn't care that someone quit twitter and I don't care what some black person says to white people on twitter any more than I care about Noa Deane's take on The Brothers Karamazov.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Sharkbiscuit
Noa Deane's take on The Brothers Karamazov.


roflmao
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Wait... you're actually offended by all that? Maybe we can find a safe space for you.


Where did I say I was offended Are you having a fecal moment?

You reap what you sow. She lost her ability to complain when she went down the road of being a racist/bigot/bully/whathaveyou.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 05:10 PM

I want to take this class

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8590/state-university-now-offers-stop-white-people-pardes-seleh
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: bird.
Wait... you're actually offended by all that? Maybe we can find a safe space for you.


Where did I say I was offended Are you having a fecal moment?

You reap what you sow. She lost her ability to complain when she went down the road of being a racist/bigot/bully/whathaveyou.


Mental gymnastics. You're either being dishonest or you don't understand what racist or bigot really mean. Either way, I stand by my previous post - must be exhausting. wink2

At the end of the day, you come across as the second most emotionally driven politics poster on the erBB after Fecal.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister


Where did I say I was offended Are you having a fecal moment?

You reap what you sow. She lost her ability to complain when she went down the road of being a racist/bigot/bully/whathaveyou.


Opinions of Fecal Matter ?? )
roflmao

Opinions of Fecal Matter !! )
roflmao

OFM !! ) jam_on

rockin


roflmao roflmao roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 05:31 PM


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.



enforcement !! )



Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Leslie Jones is a racist and a bully. She just hates two way streets is all.


Totes. I laughed so hard when she illegally hacked that one dude's website at some point in the past and posted naked pictures of him, presumably to humiliate him and shut him up. Why can't people see this is just payback?


I'm sure you felt that same way when you were furiously masturbating to the happening downloads.


BURN! Ouch! Pow, bam SLAM!
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/25/16 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: bird.
Wait... you're actually offended by all that? Maybe we can find a safe space for you.


Where did I say I was offended Are you having a fecal moment?

You reap what you sow. She lost her ability to complain when she went down the road of being a racist/bigot/bully/whathaveyou.


Yes, Penal Code 123 says that racist bullies can be punished by illegal hacking a posting of naked picture. That statute is actually right after the one that says it's ok to run a protester over if he might inconvenience you on your drive to the movies.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 05:34 AM

Right of way notwithstanding, it's generally prudent to look both ways before crossing the street.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 07:10 AM

Clearly doug is triggered.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 10:28 AM

http://www.wired.com/2016/08/alt-rights-dark-army-racist-trolls-just-great-day/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 10:36 AM



Can't see the story in the link cause that site doesn't like people who use ad blocker software. Screw them. Put it in your own words.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 11:02 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Can't see the story in the link cause that site doesn't like people who use ad blocker software. Screw them. Put it in your own words.


here's to someday learning to pause adblocker !! ) cheers

ENJOY !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 11:12 AM

I know how to create exceptions but refuse unless its something absolutely worthwhile. Wired magazine doesn't fall into that category.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 11:33 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
I know how to create exceptions but refuse unless its something absolutely worthwhile. Wired magazine doesn't fall into that category.


enjoy your bliss !! )
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Can't see the story in the link cause that site doesn't like people who use ad blocker software. Screw them. Put it in your own words.


I generally like Wired articles much more than that.

Loose paraphrase:

The Alt Right is fundamentally racist, and because they hijacked the technically incompetent demographic's party, they've been able to help shepherd Trump through the primaries, and social media is a thing people literally care about.

Now, outlets like Wired and Cable News labor under the delusion that the 4chan/twitter/facebook subset of the Alt Right didn't skew every online poll and saturate social media, that they're far more influential than they are, and, most egregiously, that hearing nasty stuff on Twitter is somehow relevant, or something they should care about, or anything other than pointless whining about the most brainless medium for discourse yet concocted.

It prattles on about how Clinton calls Trump racist or bigoted and Trump turns that on his supporters to elicit more support. Standard horse race, he said-she said.

--------------------------------------------

I thought there were lots of racists in there, but figured it was mostly Austrian econ types, socially "liberal" libertarians, and people looking for anything not completely neutered from time to time (me). Basically the occasional "Let's see what femme gay jew Milo said to troll gays and jews and women today". I always considered StormFront fairly distinct from the rest of it. I could see Ben Shapiro working at Breitbart, but I can't see Ben Shapiro working at StormFront.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 02:38 PM

To think that you can live in a constant state of bliss is stupid.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: bird.
Wait... you're actually offended by all that? Maybe we can find a safe space for you.


Where did I say I was offended Are you having a fecal moment?

You reap what you sow. She lost her ability to complain when she went down the road of being a racist/bigot/bully/whathaveyou.


Yes, Penal Code 123 says that racist bullies can be punished by illegal hacking a posting of naked picture. That statute is actually right after the one that says it's ok to run a protester over if he might inconvenience you on your drive to the movies.


Does your head hurt?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/26/16 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
To think that you can live in a constant state of bliss is stupid.


Stupid people often live in a constant state of bliss.

I envy them.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/27/16 09:32 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/paul-lepage-latest/497693/

roflmao
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/27/16 09:40 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/27/16 01:35 PM

legalize it.

Problem solved.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/27/16 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
legalize it.

Problem solved.


Yeah but what would D-Money, Smoothie and Shifty do?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/28/16 11:09 AM

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/26/donald-trump-and-the-definition-of-racism/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 10:51 AM

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/29/nei...to-heal-divide/
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 01:43 PM

Is it racists for liberals to claim that black people eat fried chicken?

Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot


Guy is a racist. He should resign IMO.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 02:11 PM

When people say racist, isn't is just identity politics?
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 05:22 PM

Posted By: the janitor

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 05:39 PM

roflmao that was awesome, I think she might have some unforeseen challenges on getting Gawker to run with that story. Also love the erBB shoutout to bobblehead
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 06:46 PM

People who end every sentence with a drawn out question mark should be choked.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
People who end every sentence with a drawn out question mark should be choked.


WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE ?? )
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/29/16 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: VonMeister
People who end every sentence with a drawn out question mark should be choked.


WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE ?? )


Yes, and whoever at MSNBC brainstormed the Kentucky Fried Chicken splice should suffer them same fate. Everyone knows Churches Chicken would have been more accurate.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/30/16 05:25 AM

Even if she wasn't a blazing SJW censored she needs her face smashed in for having a voice and inflection like that.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/30/16 05:48 AM

One tactic for someone with a character disorder is to fight for a cause, using a cause as an excuse to be an asshole

That is a text book example
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/30/16 10:29 AM

h t t p : / / w w w .usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/29/criticize-colin-kaepernick-but-support-donald-trump-think-again/89551082/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio...again/89551082/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/30/16 01:49 PM

He may be an asshole but he's our asshole?
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/30/16 10:16 PM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/31/16 01:07 AM

Racist f-ing pigs: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/08/29/victim-of-lawncrest-attack-dies-from-injuries/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/31/16 10:29 AM

Unlike a majority of countries in the world, the United States was not created on a common platform of religion or ancestry or, as Liu said, “some origin myth which goes all the way back to the beginning of history.”

Instead, Americans are bound by notions and concepts — that all men are created equal, as one example — and the ethereal nature of those ideas makes anything that Americans can latch on to concretely seem more important.

hmmm

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/sports...patriotism.html
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 08/31/16 02:00 PM

Land owners' rights
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 01:23 PM

All racism is these days is a campaign tactic that democrats use in the run up to elections to get poor, uneducated people to the polls. Sadly, these poor uneducated people fail to see the cynical pattern of the left ginning up racism, promising them the moon and then forgetting all about them the day after the election.

These poor, uneducated people have had a black president for the past 8 years and live in districts controlled almost entirely by democrats for generations. How has that all worked out for them?

Truth is that racism doesn't exist in mainstream society these days......it only exists on the fringes of society of all races and more so in races other that the white race. White America has largely moved on while others wish to see racism never go away because its an effective way to divide and distract people.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
All racism is these days is a campaign tactic that democrats use in the run up to elections to get poor, uneducated people to the polls. Sadly, these poor uneducated people fail to see the cynical pattern of the left ginning up racism, promising them the moon and then forgetting all about them the day after the election.

These poor, uneducated people have had a black president for the past 8 years and live in districts controlled almost entirely by democrats for generations. How has that all worked out for them?

Truth is that racism doesn't exist in mainstream society these days......it only exists on the fringes of society of all races and more so in races other that the white race. White America has largely moved on while others wish to see racism never go away because its an effective way to divide and distract people.

roflmao
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 02:44 PM

I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 03:18 PM

So many variables at play here.

I would be cautious with my cause and effect relationships that I try to find.

I think it comes down to money.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.


Yeah, Trayvon did it! rolleyes
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 04:04 PM

Now you're just distorting.

You're better than that.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.


Yeah, Trayvon did it! rolleyes


Trayvon was just the vehicle for the left.


The rules[1]
1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.


Yeah, Trayvon did it! rolleyes


Look at the historic trend for polling. Gallup apparently didn't do any polling on the subject in between 2008-2013, but the 2013 number was actually in line with the general trend for the 12 years prior. The big decline occurred after 2013 and that decline appears to be without precedent.

IMO you can't blame this more recent decline during this period on white guys being pissed off about a black man being president in 2008 and again in 2012. These numbers appear to directly contradict that assertion.



Also of interest is that while the blacks polled had previously held a significantly lower opinion than whites of the state of race relations they now have a higher opinion than whites (albeit also lower than before).

What do you make of that?
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:02 PM

are you talking about racism or media coverage of racism? If you want to see racism as it exists today, look no further than the comments made to Kaepernick on Twitter.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/08/27...ational-anthem/
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.


Yeah, Trayvon did it! rolleyes


Look at the historic trend for polling. Gallup apparently didn't do any polling on the subject in between 2008-2013, but the 2013 number was actually in line with the general trend for the 12 years prior. The big decline occurred after 2013 and that decline appears to be without precedent.

IMO you can't blame this more recent decline during this period on white guys being pissed off about a black man being president in 2008 and again in 2012. These numbers appear to directly contradict that assertion.





I think you need to take a poll on racism with a grain of salt. I'm skeptical that researchers were able to talk to those most impacted.
Posted By: a_neutron

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:11 PM

Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao

Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao

Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao


loser


How long can he keep going? roflmao
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:16 PM

I'm talking about public perceptions. After all, isn't what these activists are complaining about is how the rest of society thinks poorly of them and treats them poorly?

People want to indulge in the idea that its ignorance and lack of education and exposure to diversity that drives racism and other forms of bias. But there is another alternative theory - that anti-black racism may be on the rise precisely *because* of the increased exposure to their cultural values and attitudes. And not just with racial biases, but with other biases such as feminism and anti-feminism; liberalism and conservatism, theists and anti-theists, etc., etc.

The hostility currently being demonstrated toward Kaepernick only demonstrates my point. More people are learning to hate him as a direct result of learning more about him and his views.

Would you say that in 2016 the level of exposure and information on the "race issue" is greater or lesser than it was 5 years ago? If the level of info is greater and race relations are in decline then what kinds of explanations do you think square with those situations?
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:20 PM

There's no way FRVCVS is Stu

I can't see a connection where FRV would be a globalist shill with a boner for libertarian property and real estate laws
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: StuAzole
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: frvcvs
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I disagree. I think racism was in significant decline up until Trayvon but that it's come roaring back in a big way as more people get pissed off about being forced to think about identity politics all the time. I think a lot of people are actually learning to hate the black activism on the "familiarity breeds contempt" basis, and that those activists have managed to create way more racists of all colors than we had 3 years ago.

I also think it will take our society many years to get back to where we were just a couple years ago. It's apparent that race relations are getting worse as we go, and we're now into open hostility and mutual contempt territory. We may all die of old age before "race relations are okay" approval numbers between blacks and everyone else gets back to the 70% range.

Unfortunately for us all, I think it will be blacks who will suffer the brunt of this decline in race relations.


Yeah, Trayvon did it! rolleyes


Look at the historic trend for polling. Gallup apparently didn't do any polling on the subject in between 2008-2013, but the 2013 number was actually in line with the general trend for the 12 years prior. The big decline occurred after 2013 and that decline appears to be without precedent.

IMO you can't blame this more recent decline during this period on white guys being pissed off about a black man being president in 2008 and again in 2012. These numbers appear to directly contradict that assertion.





I think you need to take a poll on racism with a grain of salt. I'm skeptical that researchers were able to talk to those most impacted.



Okay, so I interpret that as meaning that you don't believe ANY of those results going all the way back, right? This is the same organization presumably using the same methodology as before but getting very different results.

IMO the accuracy and the exact number aren't really worth debating. Who really cares if the 2015 number is actually 45% or 55%? Neither one is good news when compared to the prior numbers.

It's the change in those measured points that should register.
Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: a_neutron
Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao

Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao

Frvcvs posting as StuAzole roflmao

StuAzole posting as Frvcvs roflmao


loser


How long can he keep going? roflmao


Kinda funny how GWS has this startling yet incorrect revelation and you and others come out of the woodwork. rolleyes
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:38 PM

Is anybody interested in discussing the difference between "race relations" and "racism?"

How about the guys who frequently post racist things on here yet blame black people and the left for racial tensions?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:48 PM


How about them? I'm curious how you think people develop their biases in the information age.



Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 05:51 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
How about them? I'm curious how you think people develop their biases in the information age.





Your biases were developed long before the "information age" I expect, as were most others'. If you haven't noticed, the most open racism tends to be coming from the boomer generation on the right, and younger Republican leaners tend to have more sympathetic views to BLM and things like that. What are you trying to get at here?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:03 PM

I don't think the numbers support your implication.

I'd like you to consider what it means when the trend between 2001-2013 shows in the 70% range and then declines to 45% in 3 years (and most likely is even lower in 2016). The remaining "less than favorable" has apparently increased from 28% to 55% of those polled.

The same boomers and old people you are blaming for racism were present all along - they haven't increased in number over the last 3 years. Those people almost certainly comprised a much smaller percentage of the dataset in 2016 than they did in 2001.

AFAICT, you can't get a near doubling of the "less than favorable" responses without the participation of the younger respondents.

So again, if information and education and experience is of effect on the situation, how could this situation degrade so badly in just the last 3 years?


Don't forget, blacks are being polled too; so you can't really blame the majority of the change in their perceptions on the GOP or white boomers.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:10 PM

Like I mentioned, there's a difference between race relations and racism. You chose to address the second part of my post, so I went with that in my previous response. Now you'd prefer to switch it up? OK.

Do you agree that racism and race relations are not the same thing? We should probably start by defining those terms.

Edit: I ask because I think everything you mentioned in your post is fairly easily explained, and I'll be happy to do so once we've settled the matter of what these terms mean.

Also, do you have a link to the original source for your race relations chart? I'd like to look at info about the dates people were polled.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I don't think the numbers support your implication.

I'd like you to consider what it means when the trend between 2001-2013 shows in the 70% range and then declines to 45% in 3 years (and most likely is even lower in 2016). The remaining "less than favorable" has apparently increased from 28% to 55% of those polled.

The same boomers and old people you are blaming for racism were present all along - they haven't increased in number over the last 3 years. Those people almost certainly comprised a much smaller percentage of the dataset in 2016 than they did in 2001.

AFAICT, you can't get a near doubling of the "less than favorable" responses without the participation of the younger respondents.

So again, if information and education and experience is of effect on the situation, how could this situation degrade so badly in just the last 3 years?


Don't forget, blacks are being polled too; so you can't really blame the majority of the change in their perceptions on the GOP or white boomers.


They got internet access beyond AOL. socrazy

Most of these flyover country hicks had their racism but they were isolated in their communities of 237 people or so. Only in the last few years do they have an outlet to spout their racism and ignorance on a worldwide forum. Plus, it's relatively anonymous and they suffer no repercussions. it exploded with Obama's election and has only gotten worse. There has been a backlash though through a lot of RonMahaloing witch hunts against people who weren't as anonymous as they thought. I'm not a fan of that at all but if you tag, say, Bank of America as your employer on your profile and then spout a bunch of ignorance, that may come back to bite you.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:21 PM

Well, I'm obviously not going to agree with changing the definition of racism to include an element of dominance, the way the black racists want to portray it. I'm not supportive of 1984-style DoubleSpeak. If they want to say they cannot be dominant racists or whatever other term would more accurately describe their view then that's fine with me, but in my book a racial bias is a racial bias regardless of who/what is holding that bias.

I referred to race relations in lieu of any actual data on racism itself, and as a lagging indicator of the effects of racism. If you think race relations can decline to this extent at the same time the level of racism from both sides remains stable or diminishes then I'd be interested in discussing your views on that.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:31 PM

Gallup did the poll and they've been doing it for many years. It looks like they just updated this page within the last week.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 06:52 PM

In a vaguely related story


Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Quote:
Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Young Hispanics, Asian-Americans and African-Americans are much more likely to trust Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump to deal with immigrants living in the United States illegally. But young whites tend to trust Trump more on issues related to illegal immigration, including securing the border.

Among young people overall, 47 percent say they think Trump would better handle securing the border, 26 percent say Clinton would, and 18 percent say neither would.

That's according to a new GenForward survey of adults age 18 to 30 by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. There's division on which candidate would better handle immigrants in the country now without permission, with 39 percent choosing Clinton, 38 percent Trump and 14 percent neither.

But on all those questions there are significant divisions based on race and ethnicity.

Among young whites, more say that Trump would better handle securing the border than Clinton, by a 57 percent to 19 percent margin, while 49 percent say Trump would deal with immigrants who are currently living in the United States illegally, versus 31 percent for Clinton.


It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.

Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:04 PM

I'm not trying to redefine racism or trying to catch you with any kind of "gotcha." I agree that racism can come from a non-dominant group too. (Though institutional racism can't but that's a whole different discussion.)

I'd view "race relations" in this context as an attempt to measure the perceived level of racism in the country (or simply the degree to which white people and black people can agree on the status of overall civil relations.) This is an important distinction from the true level of racism that exists in the country.

We know that people tend to surround themselves with like minded people, both in real life as far as who they choose as friends and virtually as far as who is in their social media circles. That means that when it comes to our impressions of individual bias and the level to which it affects society, we're much more likely to weigh the overall numbers toward the views that we hold. White people who know a lot of black people and black people who know a lot of white people tend to see a less racist picture of America, and white people who don't know many black people and black people who don't know many white people are insulated from the views of the opposite group.

There's a timeline of events that I think explains the drop in the perceived quality of race relations as it applies to that poll:

- February 2012: Travon Martin killed
- July 2013: Zimmerman verdict
- August 2014: Mike Brown killed
- November 2014: Darren Wilson officially not charged
- April 2015: Freddy Gray killed

These events made the lingering presence of racism front page news and something that was all of a sudden being talked about far more openly than it was before. Before any definite details on the cases of Martin, Brown, or Gray were released to us via the media, we had people like GromsDad and PRCalDude (that was the guy with the Zimmerman avatar, right?) doing everything they could to paint these victims as violent, dangerous, black criminals who deserved what they got. On the flip side, we had people like frvcvs and FecalFace doing everything they could to paint their killers as cold-blooded racists. I'm using erBB examples, but these points of view were widespread, and the media attention to these cases put them front and center in American life.

In effect, the true level of not just racism but also disagreement as to what racism actually IS started to reveal itself over the course of that time. People who'd surrounded themselves with a diverse social circle started to realize racism was more prevalent than they might have thought before. People who were more isolated started to see huge differences of opinion from groups they'd had little interaction with before.

If I were polled on the quality of race relations in 2013 and 2015 I would absolutely say they were worse the second time around. That's not to say that there was more racism in 2015 than there was in 2013, just that in between those two polling dates a lot happened to bring real tensions that had been simmering below the surface of American society to the forefront of our political discussion.

While the fact that this tension is front and center may be a set back in how we perceive race relations in the near term, I'm of the opinion that it was a necessary step in repairing those relations in a real way in the long term.
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
In a vaguely related story


Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Quote:
Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Young Hispanics, Asian-Americans and African-Americans are much more likely to trust Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump to deal with immigrants living in the United States illegally. But young whites tend to trust Trump more on issues related to illegal immigration, including securing the border.

Among young people overall, 47 percent say they think Trump would better handle securing the border, 26 percent say Clinton would, and 18 percent say neither would.

That's according to a new GenForward survey of adults age 18 to 30 by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. There's division on which candidate would better handle immigrants in the country now without permission, with 39 percent choosing Clinton, 38 percent Trump and 14 percent neither.

But on all those questions there are significant divisions based on race and ethnicity.

Among young whites, more say that Trump would better handle securing the border than Clinton, by a 57 percent to 19 percent margin, while 49 percent say Trump would deal with immigrants who are currently living in the United States illegally, versus 31 percent for Clinton.


It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



How many of them are from some hick town in Indiana, Ohio, Idaho, etc. and have never actually seen a Mexican before?

I'm betting a LOT. socrazy
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



I'm probably making the same "proximity bias" mistake I talked about in the post I just made. The majority of boomer Republicans I know the opinions of are you guys, and the majority of millennial Republicans I know the opinions of are my Facebook friends, so this is just anecdotal. Younger people I know who were quick to defend cops who'd killed suspects a couple of years ago are taking much more BLM-friendly stances now.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:25 PM

I am a Boomer and I came of age in the mid-'70s, several years after the Civil Rights struggles. As a young adult I thought - incorrectly - that those conflicts were fading quickly. As did everyone else I knew.

Obviously, I was as wrong about that as was humanly possible, as was everyone else who saw it that way during those years. That conflict currently appears to be much more heated now than it was 30 or 40 years ago.

Our society already tried hug-a-thug policing and going out of our way to avoid making the black kids angry. It was the abject failures of those efforts that directly led to the escalation of broken windows policing.

======


I completely agree that those events you noted above and others provided much of the fodder for this ongoing social debate. Which in my view is a relief from the premise that whitey's reaction to the election and reelection of BHOs as President have been the dominant factor in the rise of these conflicts.

OTOH, I am not convinced that the term "serious discussion about race" means the same thing to participants on both sides of that discussion. I think it means one thing to one side and something else entirely to the other side. Likewise, I don't think most people are oblivious to the distinctions between these two conflicting worldviews.

For that reason, I don't see any satisfaction occurring any time soon. Cops may learn to take more personal risks in these volatile situations and take more time before deciding to shoot, but there's no chance the crooks are going to learn how to do fewer of the crimes that provide the impetus for the calls for service from the cops.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



I'm probably making the same "proximity bias" mistake I talked about in the post I just made. The majority of boomer Republicans I know the opinions of are you guys, and the majority of millennial Republicans I know the opinions of are my Facebook friends, so this is just anecdotal. Younger people I know who were quick to defend cops who'd killed suspects a couple of years ago are taking much more BLM-friendly stances now.


People do grow up. My kids and their friends are all in their 30s now, and their opinions are significantly different than they were 10 years ago.

Many people from my generation started out one way and ended up another. How did that happen? Exposure and experience, of course. More knowledge. More media coverage. etc., etc.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
OTOH, I am not convinced that the term "serious discussion about race" means the same thing to participants on both sides of that discussion. I think it means one thing to one side and something else entirely to the other side. Likewise, I don't think most people are oblivious to the distinctions between these two conflicting worldviews.


Care to share your opinion on what those different meanings are? I'm genuinely curious. I just see it as a matter of perspective and experience.

Quote:

Cops may learn to take more personal risks in these volatile situations and take more time before deciding to shoot, but there's no chance the crooks are going to learn how to do fewer of the crimes that provide the impetus for the calls for service from the cops.


Wouldn't be one of our back-and-forths on this topic if I didn't mention that IMO this part's a gross oversimplification of the issues we face and is kind of racist in and of itself. wink

But we've done that one before, and it's probably not worth surfacing again right now as we go into the long weekend. We're in agreement that none of these issues will be resolved over night.

Always good exchanging ideas with ya GDaddy. cheers
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



I'm probably making the same "proximity bias" mistake I talked about in the post I just made. The majority of boomer Republicans I know the opinions of are you guys, and the majority of millennial Republicans I know the opinions of are my Facebook friends, so this is just anecdotal. Younger people I know who were quick to defend cops who'd killed suspects a couple of years ago are taking much more BLM-friendly stances now.


People do grow up. My kids and their friends are all in their 30s now, and their opinions are significantly different than they were 10 years ago.

Many people from my generation started out one way and ended up another. How did that happen? Exposure and experience, of course. More knowledge. More media coverage. etc., etc.


I'm roughly the same age as your kids and their friends, and I agree completely. Seeking more exposure to opinions and knowledge should be a lifelong pursuit.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:56 PM

Your objections are duly noted. I am disappointed that you would come to the idea that I think the police vs crook issue represents the only manisfestation of racism in our society, particularly when considering how many non-criminals among blacks hate whitey on the racist basis anyway. I just cite that as one prominent example.


At any rate, I highly doubt that you are completely unaware of what I'm talking about when I refer to both sides of the discussion interpreting differently the meaning of the term "we need to have a serious discussion about race". So forgive me if I'm kinda having a tough time considering that a serious question on your part.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



I'm probably making the same "proximity bias" mistake I talked about in the post I just made. The majority of boomer Republicans I know the opinions of are you guys, and the majority of millennial Republicans I know the opinions of are my Facebook friends, so this is just anecdotal. Younger people I know who were quick to defend cops who'd killed suspects a couple of years ago are taking much more BLM-friendly stances now.


People do grow up. My kids and their friends are all in their 30s now, and their opinions are significantly different than they were 10 years ago.

Many people from my generation started out one way and ended up another. How did that happen? Exposure and experience, of course. More knowledge. More media coverage. etc., etc.


I'm roughly the same age as your kids and their friends, and I agree completely. Seeking more exposure to opinions and knowledge should be a lifelong pursuit.



Trust me when I tell you that it can come as quite a shock when your own kids turn out more conservatively than you raised them to be.

For example: I have had a gun-free home for 25 years, but two of my kids have guns and one of them has turned into quite the gun fanboi. I never saw that coming.

Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Your objections are duly noted. I am disappointed that you would come to the idea that I think the police vs crook issue represents the only manisfestation of racism in our society, particularly when considering how many non-criminals among blacks hate whitey on the racist basis anyway. I just cite that as one prominent example.


I don't think that at all. I just think it's a more complicated than police vs crook especially when numbers make it pretty clear that white "crooks" face different treatment than black "crooks" do.

Quote:

At any rate, I highly doubt that you are completely unaware of what I'm talking about when I refer to both sides of the discussion interpreting differently the meaning of the term "we need to have a serious discussion about race". So forgive me if I'm kinda having a tough time considering that a serious question on your part.



I know that both sides have different opinions. Where I'm confused is the difference in the understanding of what having a serious discussion means. IMO, it means surfacing exactly the issues we've been surfacing and working on understanding our differences and perspectives. shrug
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Trust me when I tell you that it can come as quite a shock when your own kids turn out more conservatively than you raised them to be.

For example: I have had a gun-free home for 25 years, but two of my kids have guns and one of them has turned into quite the gun fanboi. I never saw that coming.



I think my dad could relate. He enthusiastically voted for Bernie in the primary while I abstained on the grounds that as terrible as she may be in many ways, Hildog was the better candidate overall for my sensibilities. grin
Posted By: CCKeith

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
In a vaguely related story


Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Quote:
Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Young Hispanics, Asian-Americans and African-Americans are much more likely to trust Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump to deal with immigrants living in the United States illegally. But young whites tend to trust Trump more on issues related to illegal immigration, including securing the border.

Among young people overall, 47 percent say they think Trump would better handle securing the border, 26 percent say Clinton would, and 18 percent say neither would.

That's according to a new GenForward survey of adults age 18 to 30 by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. There's division on which candidate would better handle immigrants in the country now without permission, with 39 percent choosing Clinton, 38 percent Trump and 14 percent neither.

But on all those questions there are significant divisions based on race and ethnicity.

Among young whites, more say that Trump would better handle securing the border than Clinton, by a 57 percent to 19 percent margin, while 49 percent say Trump would deal with immigrants who are currently living in the United States illegally, versus 31 percent for Clinton.


It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



How many of them are from some hick town in Indiana, Ohio, Idaho, etc. and have never actually seen a Mexican before?

I'm betting a LOT. socrazy


Have you spent much time in Indiana, Ohio, Idaho, etc.?
Posted By: Kento

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: CCKeith
Originally Posted By: Kento
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
In a vaguely related story


Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Quote:
Poll: Young Adults Divided on Immigration, Border Control


Young Hispanics, Asian-Americans and African-Americans are much more likely to trust Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump to deal with immigrants living in the United States illegally. But young whites tend to trust Trump more on issues related to illegal immigration, including securing the border.

Among young people overall, 47 percent say they think Trump would better handle securing the border, 26 percent say Clinton would, and 18 percent say neither would.

That's according to a new GenForward survey of adults age 18 to 30 by the Black Youth Project at the University of Chicago with the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. There's division on which candidate would better handle immigrants in the country now without permission, with 39 percent choosing Clinton, 38 percent Trump and 14 percent neither.

But on all those questions there are significant divisions based on race and ethnicity.

Among young whites, more say that Trump would better handle securing the border than Clinton, by a 57 percent to 19 percent margin, while 49 percent say Trump would deal with immigrants who are currently living in the United States illegally, versus 31 percent for Clinton.


It appears that many of the "young whites" being polled didn't get the memo that they're supposed to disagree with Trump.



How many of them are from some hick town in Indiana, Ohio, Idaho, etc. and have never actually seen a Mexican before?

I'm betting a LOT. socrazy


Have you spent much time in Indiana, Ohio, Idaho, etc.?


Been to all three and also much of the Bible Belt. Bigger cities are different than the tiny pissant hick towns.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad

White America has largely moved on while others wish to see racism never go away because its an effective way to divide and distract people.


Why is it so effective ? ? ) shrug
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Trust me when I tell you that it can come as quite a shock when your own kids turn out more conservatively than you raised them to be.

For example: I have had a gun-free home for 25 years, but two of my kids have guns and one of them has turned into quite the gun fanboi. I never saw that coming.



I think my dad could relate. He enthusiastically voted for Bernie in the primary while I abstained on the grounds that as terrible as she may be in many ways, Hildog was the better candidate overall for my sensibilities. grin


It just goes to show that people often make their own choices - which I interpret to be a good thing.

I had one family member who went homeless for a number of years after high school and associated with basically the dregs of society. He went full-retard as a drugged out anarchist whose primary concern was where he could score his next rave and whatever NWO conspiracy was on tap for the day. After 10 years of that he moved back home to his mom's house and went to school for a college degree in computer science. By the time he got done with that his politics ended up basically right where his dad started, albeit by his own hand. Drug-free, no less.

That guy now works in the IT industry and is a Trump supporter. It's quite a story.

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 10:04 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad

White America has largely moved on while others wish to see racism never go away because its an effective way to divide and distract people.


Why is it so effective ? ? ) shrug



Because poor uneducated people are looking for an explanation for their failure and fall for it every time.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/02/16 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad

White America has largely moved on while others wish to see racism never go away because its an effective way to divide and distract people.


Why is it so effective ? ? ) shrug



Because poor uneducated people are looking for an explanation for their failure and fall for it every time.


maybe you could think of something more clever

that they will fall for instead ?? ) shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/03/16 11:42 AM

Posted By: frvcvs

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/03/16 11:47 PM

GDaddy, I can't help but think that Dr Martin Luther King Jr was speaking of folks just like you when he wrote this passage in his letter from a Birmingham Jail in April of 1963...

" First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured."
- Dr Martin Luther King Jr
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/04/16 10:28 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...m=.c6bd271fb592



wave2





http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/arts/music/colin-kaepernick-national-anthem.html

wave2
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/04/16 08:23 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/05/16 10:49 AM

roflmao laughingpointing roflmao






















Black Lives Matter !! )



Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/05/16 01:50 PM

I think the stats are telling. Whittle may be making a big jump about the sinister democratic conspiracy.

The fact is white and non whites need to share responsibly in fixing the problem, if anyone really wanted to fix the problem.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/06/16 09:48 AM

Contemporary newspapers were likewise far from unified in their support of King, with the St. Louis Globe-Democrat calling King “one of the most menacing men in America today.”
There were roadside billboards scattered throughout the South purporting to show King at a communist training camp.



Adding to this narrative were people like Alabama Governor George Wallace, who told The New York Times in 1963 that “President [Kennedy] wants us to surrender this state to Martin Luther King and his group of pro-Communists who have instituted these demonstrations."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...hitewashed.html
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/06/16 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Contemporary newspapers were likewise far from unified in their support of King, with the St. Louis Globe-Democrat calling King “one of the most menacing men in America today.”
There were roadside billboards scattered throughout the South purporting to show King at a communist training camp.



Adding to this narrative were people like Alabama Governor George Wallace, who told The New York Times in 1963 that “President [Kennedy] wants us to surrender this state to Martin Luther King and his group of pro-Communists who have instituted these demonstrations."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...hitewashed.html


Charming Sofisticate would approve of that billboard.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 10:14 AM



Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.



not so much the flip side of the same coin as the same side !! )

A GOOD POINT FROM THE LINKED ARTICLE !! ) ( :
To the contrary, conservative media outlets are incentivized to promote anger and discord, and to beat the hell out of mainstream Republicans. Some resist this incentive structure; most do not.
In this election, we have seen something remarkable. A candidate who reflects the views and values of conservative media was able — with a plurality and a fractured field — to seize the presidential nomination of the Republican Party. But the political universe of conservative talk radio does not constitute anything close to a majority of voters in the general election. In fact, this cartoon version of conservatism tends to alienate key groups of voters, including minorities, Republican women and the college-educated.
Much (not all, but much) of the new conservative establishment feeds outrage as its source of revenue and relevance. It is a model that has been good for Limbaugh and Fox News but bad for the GOP. Republicans are now caught in a complicated electoral dynamic. What their base, incited by conservative media, is demanding, the country is rejecting. A choice and a conflict are becoming unavoidable. Trump’s angry nativism — newly restated in Arizona with a few twists — is a talk-radio shtick, correctly viewed by most of the electorate as impractical and cruel. It is less a proposal than an offensive, unhealthy form of ideological entertainment. And this show needs to close.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...m=.666891aa375f
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 02:58 PM

TrigglyBro is triggered.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:10 PM

Trump got 45% of the popular votes in the primaries - that's out of a field that started out with 12 candidates.

Trump spent $76M to get there, having been grossly outspent by 3 of his opponents. Cruz spent 82% more than Trump but got only 56% as many votes. And Rubio spent 67% more than Trump but got only 25% as many votes.

So the big money was and is still against Trump.


HRC got 55% of the popular vote and Bernie got 43% out of a field of 3 candidates. HRC spent $212M and Bernie spent $220M.


Call it what you will, but Trump could not have gotten to where he is today if 45% the GOP voters were at all happy with how the party's mainstream has been doing business. He may not have the right combination of the popular vote to carry the battleground states but there can be little doubt that there are many, many Americans who are pissed off at the status quo.


Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:29 PM

Trump didn't have to spend any money on his campaign because constantly saying stupid shit ensured that he was in the headlines every day.

Twitter is free.

Genius.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy


Call it what you will, but Trump could not have gotten to where he is today if 45% the GOP voters were at all happy with how the party's mainstream has been doing business. He may not have the right combination of the popular vote to carry the battleground states but there can be little doubt that there are many, many Americans who are pissed off at the status quo.




Uh no. He just tapped into the insane Obama hatred that the right has been fueling for 8 years.

He touched bigoted hearts everywhere with his chubby little vulgarian finger.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:36 PM

The use of media has long been a political staple. When compared to their respective opponents, Trump's use of the alternative media is proving at least as effective as Obama's performances during his campaigns. If not moreso. Both effectively pull the emotional levers to get their supporters excited about them.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy


Call it what you will, but Trump could not have gotten to where he is today if 45% the GOP voters were at all happy with how the party's mainstream has been doing business. He may not have the right combination of the popular vote to carry the battleground states but there can be little doubt that there are many, many Americans who are pissed off at the status quo.




Uh no. He just tapped into the insane Obama hatred that the right has been fueling for 8 years.

He touched bigoted hearts everywhere with his chubby little vulgarian finger.


You guys keep blaming most of Obama's opposition on racism but the trends for race relations didn't even enter into decline until 2013. As of 2013 race relations in the polls were the same as they had been for the 15 years prior. At that point BHO had already been in office for 5 years.

So in effect, the polling numbers don't support that part of the allegation. I would agree that the rise in anti-BLM and anti-PC sentiment is a big factor in Trump's success, but I would also attribute that change in public perception to be directly attributable to the adverse reaction to those movements. Not necessarily to those sentiments being as strong prior to the militancy.

In other words, I think the bleeders at the SJWs created the reaction that Trump is currently exploiting. In that respect, a vote for Trump is a big F-U to the bleeders.



Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The use of media has long been a political staple. When compared to their respective opponents, Trump's use of the alternative media is proving at least as effective as Obama's performances during his campaigns. If not moreso. Both effectively pull the emotional levers to get their supporters excited about them.









Yeah except one was a positive message and the other one was throwing 3rd grade insults and calling people names.

Other than that it was exactly the same.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy


Call it what you will, but Trump could not have gotten to where he is today if 45% the GOP voters were at all happy with how the party's mainstream has been doing business. He may not have the right combination of the popular vote to carry the battleground states but there can be little doubt that there are many, many Americans who are pissed off at the status quo.




Uh no. He just tapped into the insane Obama hatred that the right has been fueling for 8 years.

He touched bigoted hearts everywhere with his chubby little vulgarian finger.


You guys keep blaming most of Obama's opposition on racism but the trends for race relations didn't enter into decline until 2013.



Uh, again no. People called it racism when it was justified to be called racism, like the whole Birther movement.

The rest of the opposition to Obama has been largely irrational hatred fueled by the talk shows.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The use of media has long been a political staple. When compared to their respective opponents, Trump's use of the alternative media is proving at least as effective as Obama's performances during his campaigns. If not moreso. Both effectively pull the emotional levers to get their supporters excited about them.









Yeah except one was a positive message and the other one was throwing 3rd grade insults and calling people names.

Other than that it was exactly the same.


Obama's hopey changey thing was most definitely aimed at the 3rd grade reasoning skills among the DNC supporters. "I luv kittens" is an uplifting message, alright. But it doesn't necessarily advance the well being of the cat population.


OTOH, calling an asshole an asshole has a certain virtue all its own.

Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 04:58 PM

It doesn't matter who is it aimed for.

What matters is that one is a message of hatred and fear and utter stupidity and the other one is not.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:21 PM

Perspective counts.

If someone hates the idea of cultural collapse then a politician's call to conserve that culture can be considered very positive and uplifting. Hopeful, even.

The point is, if Trump gets 40% or 45% of the popular vote then it's kinda hard to call that a splinter group of crazy people.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Perspective counts.

If someone hates the idea of cultural collapse then a politician's call to conserve that culture can be considered very positive and uplifting. Hopeful, even.

The point is, if Trump gets 40% or 45% of the popular vote then it's kinda hard to call that a splinter group of crazy people.





It's a small percentage of the overall population.
It's just a very, very loud splinter group of crazy people.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:27 PM

Small percentage, huh?

45% of everyone who voted for a candidate in the GOP primaries and 40% of everyone polled in any of a number of the recent polls.

The numbers don't support your assertion or your reasoning.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: ifallalot


Guy is a racist. He should resign IMO.


That is very generous of you. While you posit that racism may no longer be real, this thread seems your admission that gov't. should have a role in combating racism if it exists. However, the gov't. of the U.S. was conceived in racism and for centuries had turned a blind eye to practices that advantaged white folk over others. There's a legacy. It's that legacy that continues to bedevil us all. The legacy is reflected in current justice system statistics, in current education statistics, in current employment statistics and in other current social measures. Racism is here and now for LePage, as it is for all U.S. of Americans.

...or maybe you just don't want to admit what racism is. It's not about how one feels toward other races. By definition, it's about hard numbers.

I believe the solution lies in the realization that a society is only as valuable as the trust and cooperation that it engenders.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Small percentage, huh?

45% of everyone who voted for a candidate in the GOP primaries and 40% of everyone polled in any of a number of the recent polls.

The numbers don't support your assertion or your reasoning.


What percentage of total population is that?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:57 PM

We're talking about the electorate. Not children, not convicts, not illegals, not the politically disengaged. By definition, the electorate is a subset of the total population.

It is a fundamental logic fail to say that one candidate or political party has the support of the masses based on the current polling but the other is supported only by a small minority. That's because both of those numbers are coming from same subset of the population.

Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 05:59 PM

Still equating "race relations" with racism? foreheadslap
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:02 PM

I'm curious how you can completely divorce the drastic decline in race relation (for which we have polling data) from the alleged increase in racism (for which we don't)?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
We're talking about the electorate. Not children, not convicts, not illegals, not the politically disengaged. By definition, the electorate is a subset of the total population.

It is a fundamental logic fail to say that one candidate or political party has the support of the masses based on the current polling but the other is supported only by a small minority. That's because both of those numbers are coming from same subset of the population.



Fail as usual.

Here are some facts and logic for you:

1) The United States is home to 324 million people.

2) 103 million of them are children, noncitizens or ineligible felons, and they do not have the right to vote.

3) 88 million eligible adults do not vote at all, even in general elections.

4) An additional 73 million did not vote in the primaries this year, but will most likely vote in the general election.

5) The remaining 60 million people voted in the primaries: about 30 million each for Republicans and Democrats.

6) But half of the primary voters chose other candidates. Just 14 percent of eligible adults — 9 percent of the whole nation — voted for either Trump or Clinton.


That gives Trump an optimistic 7% of the electoral vote in the primaries.


Science bitch.


Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:43 PM

I already acknowledged that the electorate is just a subset of the total population. So there's no gotcha for you there. In fact, I qualified my initial observation in terms of "people who voted".

Perhaps you missed that.


Moreover, the general polls showing Clinton and Trump running neck and neck aren't limited to either a GOP electorate or a DNC electorate, but to whatever the composition is of the entire group being polled. Presumably including supporters of each side, not just one side.


In terms of elections, it doesn't matter what the non-participants think or want. Even if you could say their values are wholly different than the people who do participate - a premise for which you have no basis.

The polls are what they are. No more and no less. And their results don't support your assertions. The only way you can say otherwise is to pull out your emovagina card and tell us it's how you feel. So, not an argument.

The underlying point remains - 40% or 45% of everyone who does end up voting will be way more than some irrelevant splinter group of crazy radicals. Way more than the 13% of the populace that everyone is oh-so-concerned are getting marginalized and oppressed.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Small percentage, huh?

45% of everyone who voted for a candidate in the GOP primaries and 40% of everyone polled in any of a number of the recent polls.

The numbers don't support your assertion or your reasoning.


LOL
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I'm curious how you can completely divorce the drastic decline in race relation (for which we have polling data) from the alleged increase in racism (for which we don't)?


Who alleged there was an increase in racism? I already explained the difference.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 06:57 PM

Suit yourself -

How do you go about divorcing the drastic decline in race relations (for which we have polling data) from your opinions of a potential decrease or stabilized degree of racism (for which we don't have data)?


How can a larger percentage of blacks believe that race relations are worse without also believing there has been an increase in white racism?




Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:07 PM

In a related note:

Rasmussen: More Americans View Blacks As Racist Than Whites, Hispanics

Quote:
Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Americans consider blacks more likely to be racist than whites and Hispanics in this country.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults think most black Americans are racist, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 15% consider most white Americans racist, while 18% say the same of most Hispanic Americans. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

There is a huge ideological difference on this topic. Among conservative Americans, 49% consider most blacks racist, and only 12% see most whites that way. Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans.

From a partisan perspective, 49% of Republicans see most black Americans as racist, along with 36% of unaffiliated adults and 29% of Democrats.

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

Among white adults, 10% think most white Americans are racist; 38% believe most blacks are racist, and 17% say most Hispanics are racist....
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Suit yourself -

How do you go about divorcing the drastic decline in race relations (for which we have polling data) from your opinions of a potential decrease or stabilized degree of racism (for which we don't have data)?


How can a larger percentage of blacks believe that race relations are worse without also believing there has been an increase in white racism?






Seriously, I wrote a long-winded post explaining just that.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:32 PM

So you're still hanging on to the reasoning that the social consciousness and perceptions have changed, but not the racism?

So then blacks are somehow learning more about race relations than they knew in 2013? 'Cause their opinions started off lower than whites in 2013 and that trend also declined.

If blacks thought whites were learning more about race relations wouldn't that lead to their perceptions heading in the opposite direction from whites?


Occam's Razor, bruh.


Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:37 PM

You're clearly choosing not to understand my position, so I'm done. You can reread my post if you want.

If blacks thought whites were learning more about race relations? WTF does that even mean?
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:37 PM

Note in the 2013 Rasumussen survey both blacks and whites attributed a similar level of racism to hispanics. That essentially creates a control group situation that provides context for the results for both of those groups (whites and blacks).
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:39 PM

You either don't understand what percieved race relations are, don't know what racism is, or both. Your posts make that abundantly clear.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
You're clearly choosing not to understand my position, so I'm done. You can reread my post if you want.

If blacks thought whites were learning more about race relations? WTF does that even mean?


I'll make this simple: Do you think black attitudes toward race relations are the result of an increase of awareness and perception of the situation among blacks? If not, what do you attribute THEIR change in attitudes to?
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: bird.
You're clearly choosing not to understand my position, so I'm done. You can reread my post if you want.

If blacks thought whites were learning more about race relations? WTF does that even mean?


I'll make this simple: Do you think black attitudes toward race relations are the result of an increase of awareness and perception of the situation among blacks? If not, what do you attribute THEIR change in attitudes to?


Yes. An increased awareness of how widespread racism is among the white population.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:48 PM

What change are the people who are riding this wave of identity politics hoping to effect?
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
What change are the people who are riding this wave of identity politics hoping to effect?




If you're referring to BLM, etc. I think reading the DOJ reports on the Ferguson and Baltimore police departments would be a good place to start to answer that question.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: bird.
You're clearly choosing not to understand my position, so I'm done. You can reread my post if you want.

If blacks thought whites were learning more about race relations? WTF does that even mean?


I'll make this simple: Do you think black attitudes toward race relations are the result of an increase of awareness and perception of the situation among blacks? If not, what do you attribute THEIR change in attitudes to?


Yes. An increased awareness of how widespread racism is among the white population.


I'll put it this way, things are getting said out loud in public now that would never have happened 30 years ago when I was in your age range. One of my sons grew up with a couple guys who now work as firefighters and the appalling things that I've heard come out of their mouths in idle conversation between themselves is WAY worse than any thing I ever heard from *any* cop back when I was working that gig in the 1980s. WAY worse.


I know their parents and I watched over a period of 20 years how they were raised and I'm here to tell you the changes in attitudes these guys have taken on were LEARNED after they left home, not inherited.

You can disbelieve that or not, however you see fit. Personally, I think the dividing lines are hardening, not softening.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 07:58 PM

I wasn't alive before the mid-eighties, so I'll take your word for it. I'm not really concerned with where it was learned though. Strikes me as a irrelevant to the discussion. shrug
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:02 PM

After all these years of relative stagnation among racist vocabulary, this generation managed to come up with a new substitute for the "N" word:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dindu
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: bird.
I wasn't alive before the mid-eighties, so I'll take your word for it. I'm not really concerned with where it was learned though. Strikes me as a irrelevant to the discussion. shrug




Irrelevant, huh?

Think about this: if a guy *becomes* a racist as a direct result of increased exposure and information about the group in question then what do you think the breakdown in attribution is between unconscious habits and history vs current events?


Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Originally Posted By: bird.
I wasn't alive before the mid-eighties, so I'll take your word for it. I'm not really concerned with where it was learned though. Strikes me as a irrelevant to the discussion. shrug




Irrelevant, huh?

Think about this: if a guy *becomes* a racist as a direct result of increased exposure and information about the group in question then what do you think the breakdown in attribution is between history vs current events?



I think anyone who becomes racist as a result of increase exposure or information about a group is acting on incorrect info and his own feelings more than facts.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:16 PM

You're kinda digging a logic/reasoning hole for yourself here.

Personal experience can be categorized as direct source of input in the human experience, whereas reading someone else's input would be a secondary source of information. How can personal experience be characterized as "incorrect" or not factual or less credible to that individual than some second-hand account?


Speaking of context, how would you compare your own personal level of exposure and experience with the black community when compared to a guy your age or older who has worked as an EMT and paramedic and firefighter for the City of Los Angeles for the last 8 years?
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
You're kinda digging a logic/reasoning hole for yourself here.

Personal experience can be categorized as direct source of input in the human experience, whereas reading someone else's input would be a secondary source of information. How can personal experience be characterized as "incorrect" or not factual or less credible to that individual than some second-hand account?


It's not about the accounts of the experience. It's about drawing faulty conclusions about an entire race of people. Ask Autoprax.

Or are we just talking about perceived "relations?"


Quote:



Speaking of context, how would you compare your own personal level of exposure and experience with the black community when compared to a guy your age or older who has worked as an EMT and paramedic and firefighter for the City of Los Angeles for the last 8 years?


I would expect he's met more black people overall at the surface level but has actual relationships with fewer.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:30 PM

Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 08:58 PM

After piecing this together, are you trying to suggest that there's been an increase in racism among the white population that can be attributed to politicians and the media as suggested by c_m at the beginning of this thread, or are we talking about something else?

Either way, the racism IS real regardless of its genesis, so I reject the OP's suggestion that it's nothing but a distraction.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 10:22 PM

The 2013 Rasmussen poll I cited above reported that 31% of blacks think most blacks are racist and 10% of whites think most whites are racist. This is in reference to their own groups, presumably based in large part on their own experiences and observations of their own groups. Both groups basically agree about how many of the third outside group (hispanics) they think are racist (16% and 17%, respectively). I interpret that similar result to indicate to some consistency in their judgement even if the accuracy of that judgement is subject to question.

So I really don't see any reason for you and I to debate whether or not racism exists in a significant scale in our society. If C_M or GD or whomever disagree with us then I'm comfortable with that.

I don't think that the causes of those attitudes are either irrelevant or a distraction. I mean, if the whole purpose of the phrase "we need to have an honest discussion about race" is ostensibly to diminish its effects then I don't see how we get to a solution without going after its cause, and we can't address a cause until we correctly identify it.

Starting with exactly what the allegation of a bias really is.

If a POC is alleging that whites lock their car doors when they see guys in hoodies crossing the street then there's a fact to be proven or disproven in there somewhere, even if its difficult to do so. If a cracker is alleging that backs aren't working as hard as whites are there's another example of a fact that exists either in support or in contradiction of the allegation - the difficulty in isolating that fact notwithstanding.

If one of these allegations is supported then that would actually justify that bias, just the same as if the facts contradict the allegation then that guts the rationale for the bias. Works both ways.


If someone has a bias that men tend to have more upper body strength than women, or that women are more physically capable of breastfeeding than men, if the facts support those biases then it cannot be argued unreasonable or unfair or sexist to hold them on the group basis - even to the extent there are individuals who don't fit those stereotypes.

As they say, the truth is a defense to slander.

Or perhaps not, depending on one's worldview.
Posted By: bird.

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 10:35 PM

We are in violent agreement to a point then haha. But since you and I agree (at least on the base facts as they relate to this discussion) I am a little bit surprised at what I perceive to be your idea that BLM is nothing but trouble makers when in fact many of their complaints have been proven to be true. Maybe I'm just reading your opinion wrong. There's plenty of room for misunderstanding in off-the-cuff erBB posts made over the course of several threads.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 10:58 PM

I am familiar with the talking points.

I would say that at least some of their claims are most definitely not supported by the numbers.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 11:06 PM

Change of subject (kinda)

Here's another set of numbers that highly correspond to my observations and interactions with blacks over the years:

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/racial-and-ethnic-composition/

Note that I am not religious in any way, so my notice of these stats shouldn't be interpreted as a projection of my own religious values.

I have often wondered if this aspect of black culture got a whole lot more media attention than it has been receiving if that would be of effect on race relations.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 11:20 PM

It's funny how a Jewish/Christian/Muslim nation like the U.S. of America is so rife with sons and daughters loathe to suffer dutifully for the sins of their forefathers (and foremothers).
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/07/16 11:42 PM

The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/08/16 02:32 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/08/16 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?



Even as a little kid I called BS on the concept of original sin.

I've always responded positively to people who saw the good in me.

If you trust me I won't want to let you down.

Not everyone is operating at the level though, I know.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/08/16 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?



Even as a little kid I called BS on the concept of original sin.

I've always responded positively to people who saw the good in me.

If you trust me I won't want to let you down.

Not everyone is operating at the level though, I know.


If I don't trust you, you won't let me down either.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/08/16 06:04 PM

[s][/s]
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?



Even as a little kid I called BS on the concept of original sin.

I've always responded positively to people who saw the good in me.

If you trust me I won't want to let you down.

Not everyone is operating at the level though, I know.


If I don't trust you, you won't let me down either.


True but your way in much more inefficient.

Innovation stems from the need to increase efficiency.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/10/16 12:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
[s][/s]
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?



Even as a little kid I called BS on the concept of original sin.

I've always responded positively to people who saw the good in me.

If you trust me I won't want to let you down.

Not everyone is operating at the level though, I know.


If I don't trust you, you won't let me down either.


True but your way in much more inefficient.

Innovation stems from the need to increase efficiency.


I'm with you all the way. I don't trust Donald though, uh-huh...waiting for him to do something inspirational.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/10/16 02:23 AM

A young man with his pants hanging half off his ass, two gold front teeth, and a half inch thick gold chain around his neck; walked into the local welfare office to pick up his check.

He marched up to the counter and said,
"Hi. You know, I just H A T E drawing welfare. I'd really rather have a job.. I don't like taking advantage of the system, getting something for nothing." The social worker behind the counter said "Your timing is excellent. We Just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a chauffeur and
bodyguard for his beautiful daughter. You'll have to drive around in his 2012 Mercedes-Benz CL, and he will supply all of your clothes."

"Because of The long hours, meals will be provided. You'll also be expected to escort the daughter on her overseas holiday trips. This is rather awkward to say
but you will also have, as part of your job, the
assignment to satisfy her sexual urges as the daughter is in her mid-20's and has a rather strong sex drive."

The guy, just plain wide-eyed, said, "You're bullshittin' me!"

The social worker said, "Yeah, well...
You started it." .....
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/10/16 06:04 AM

Was that supposed to be funny?
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/10/16 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
[s][/s]
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
The theology angle is way over my head.

Perhaps it's the conflicting ethos' of Original Sin vs Personal Accountability?



Even as a little kid I called BS on the concept of original sin.

I've always responded positively to people who saw the good in me.

If you trust me I won't want to let you down.

Not everyone is operating at the level though, I know.


If I don't trust you, you won't let me down either.


True but your way in much more inefficient.

Innovation stems from the need to increase efficiency.


I'm with you all the way. I don't trust Donald though, uh-huh...waiting for him to do something inspirational.


Oh, I get what you are saying. A stitch in time saves nine.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/13/16 01:11 AM

Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/14/16 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.



shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/15/16 10:04 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/powell-emails/499946/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 11:13 AM


Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
A basket of deplorables smile


is the politically incorrect phrase of the day !! )

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/they-are-all-breitbart-now/499511/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.


Funny thing about law enforcement is that if you simply obey the law you rarely come into contact with them.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 11:27 AM

^^^^^^^^^
willful !! )

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/15/minnes...ate-own-police/
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
A basket of deplorables smile


is the politically incorrect phrase of the day !! )

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/they-are-all-breitbart-now/499511/


Rasumussen: More Americans believe Blacks as racist as Whites and Hispanics,

Quote:
Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

Among white adults, 10% think most white Americans are racist; 38% believe most blacks are racist, and 17% say most Hispanics are racist.


Tensions are running high. It appears race politics will always be an issue.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 12:56 PM



Rasmussen: Three Quarters of Americans Believe Jesus Rose From the Dead

Quote:
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 77% of American Adults believe Jesus Christ was the son of God sent to Earth to die for our sins. Fourteen percent (14%) don’t believe that to be true.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.



shrug



Is it not possible that blacks have some valid gripes and at the same time the way BLM express their gripes is not so good?

BLM should get a good understanding of poly vagal theory and adjust accordingly.

But they won't.

Why?

Cuz they're stupid! monkey

The rise extremists SJWs will trigger a rise on the right extreme.

We see this already happening.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/17/16 03:50 PM

Yup, Newtons third law is valid. The problem is the estrogen filled SJW's are ill equipped to handle the beatdown they have coming.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/18/16 02:27 AM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Yup, Newtons third law is valid. The problem is the estrogen filled SJW's are ill equipped to handle the beatdown they have coming.


Ooh, somebody overdosed on testosterone gel.

You are not supposed to snort it.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/18/16 09:43 AM

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-trump-letter-20160916-story.html

shrug
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/19/16 06:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.



shrug



Is it not possible that blacks have some valid gripes and at the same time the way BLM express their gripes is not so good?

BLM should get a good understanding of poly vagal theory and adjust accordingly.

But they won't.

Why?

Cuz they're stupid! monkey

The rise extremists SJWs will trigger a rise on the right extreme.

We see this already happening.



Of course it's not an either/or but I'm asking about that specific claim.
I'll refrain from comment on the rest...
roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/19/16 09:21 AM

http://www.dailydot.com/irl/solange-tone-essay/?obdd&type=CPC&campaign=all
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 09:23 AM

http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/otherv...5e1c274eb6.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 10:20 AM



Classic example of assuming every unkind word or deed by another race.......is because of race.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 10:31 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Classic example of assuming every unkind word or deed by another race.......is because of race.

+1

But apparently that's whitesplaining and white privilege to think that way.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 10:34 AM

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...-anxiety-214261
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 10:34 AM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...onalism/500039/




Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Classic example of assuming every unkind word or deed by another race.......is because of race.

+1

But apparently that's whitesplaining and white privilege to think that way.


For all we know the dumb lady was probably acting like an ass and deserved to have stuff thrown at her. Actually its probably most likely that's the case.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/20/16 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Classic example of assuming every unkind word or deed by another race.......is because of race.

+1

But apparently that's whitesplaining and white privilege to think that way.


For all we know the dumb lady was probably acting like an ass and deserved to have stuff thrown at her. Actually its probably most likely that's the case.



hat
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 09:46 AM

http://www.eurweb.com/2016/09/2nd-student-within-week-kicked-college-racist-snapchat-post/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 10:50 AM

Apparently free speech isn't as important as it used to be on college campuses.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Apparently free speech isn't as important as it used to be on college campuses.



roflmao
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 01:52 PM

You have to do your taboo humor anonymously.

The post with the girls in black face was funny in dumb kind of way.

They are being comic buffoons.

The target of the humor is not the blacks but themselves.

The guy who made the comment about the foot ball players not so much.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Apparently free speech isn't as important as it used to be on college campuses.



roflmao


Apparently, Belmont University is a private Christian college. So no free speech for them.

In a related note, this was a college student, not some 60-yr old unemployed white guy who dropped out of high school 45 years ago. .

So I wonder what happens if PC culture get's stripped of it's safe spaces and everyone is set free to tell each other to F-O?
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/21/16 03:53 PM

You are dopey when you are a kid. They should teach the kids first.

Humans are not made to be able to have such a loud voice.

Still it's another thing that educators are supposed to deal with.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 10:13 AM

http://theundefeated.com/allday/hands-up-dont-shoot-didnt-make-a-difference-for-terence-crutcher/
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 12:49 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: psykophant
Originally Posted By: bird.
Here's the crux of what I'm getting at - there is a lot of criticism of BLM as a racist movement or something that's somehow wrong, but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people of certain ilks on the erBB and elsewhere don't change their tune in the least bit.

I know you're a defender of "broken windows" policing, but are you also a defender of unconstitutional actions by law enforcement officials and agencies?



Please connect the dots as you see them with regards to the bold above.



shrug





Is it not possible that blacks have some valid gripes and at the same time the way BLM express their gripes is not so good?

BLM should get a good understanding of poly vagal theory and adjust accordingly.

But they won't.

Why?

Cuz they're stupid! monkey

The rise extremists SJWs will trigger a rise on the right extreme.

We see this already happening.



Of course it's not an either/or but I'm asking about that specific claim.
I'll refrain from comment on the rest...
roflmao


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-d...lice-department

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi...ment_report.pdf
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 01:52 PM

I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.


BLM straight up sucks at PR.

I don't think all police shootings are created equal. There's capping the Boston marathon bomber, then there's capping a 9 year old with a toy gun in an open-carry state.

The Tulsa video isn't looking too good from my armchair, but I'll wait to see.

I was pulled over a few weeks ago. Hadn't committed any moving violations, but I was crapping my pants. Turned out to be dead lights over my license plate. Officer let me go, but I was a little miffed (internally; I didn't get short or smart with officer) he didn't tell me this when he pulled me over. Stewing for 10 minutes was zero fun.

Every other time, I've been told why I was pulled over almost instantly, including once for a tail or brake light out (near midnight in Fort Pierce when I was in my early 20s).
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 03:22 PM

Bahahaha, some UT law professor/USA Today Columnist tweeted "Run them down" in response to North Carolina protests.

Dang Liberal Media/Academia!11!!!
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.


While that's all very true, including the fact that you can't entirely blame the cops, drugs are not the reason why the cops are so scared of citizens that they have a finger on the trigger when stopping people for even minor offenses - it's guns.

Every one of these shootings happened in a state with very liberal gun laws and every one of these shootings happened because cops tought that soon-to-be dead guy had a gun, whether he did or not.

But oh no, nobody wants to talk about that.

Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 03:34 PM

Quote:
there's capping a 9 year old with a toy gun in an open-carry state


Well duh.
When everybody is carrying, good luck figuring out who the threat is.
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.


While that's all very true, including the fact that you can't entirely blame the cops, drugs are not the reason why the cops are so scared of citizens that they have a finger on the trigger when stopping people for even minor offenses - it's guns.

Every one of these shootings happened in a state with very liberal gun laws and every one of these shootings happened because cops tought that the dead guy had a gun, whether he did or not.

But oh no, nobody wants to talk about that.



$.02

Given the gerrymandering in the House and the nature of the Senate it's a non-starter at the Federal Level.

Forget about it at the (Red) state level for at least 50 years.

The Drug War is different. The Rand Paul wing/mindset seems to have much more power/influence on the Right than it did 10 years ago.

I want BernieCare too, but I sure as MF He11 don't want them to try right now and wind up giving the GOP 60 Senate votes and the White House.
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 04:03 PM

This is all about the drug war.

You can take every racist cop off the street and it won't make an ounce of difference.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
This is all about guns.

You can take every racist cop off the street and it won't make an ounce of difference.


Fxd
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.


While that's all very true, including the fact that you can't entirely blame the cops, drugs are not the reason why the cops are so scared of citizens that they have a finger on the trigger when stopping people for even minor offenses - it's guns.

Every one of these shootings happened in a state with very liberal gun laws and every one of these shootings happened because cops tought that soon-to-be dead guy had a gun, whether he did or not.

But oh no, nobody wants to talk about that.



A black market for illegal stuff people want will create a climate of violence.

Hence, blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks.

Legalize it and let your doc take care of your addiction issues.

8% of people who do coke get addicted.

Legalize it and use the freed up resources to deal with addicts.

Criminalizing addiction just makes the condition worse.


Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I don't think you can put this all on law enforcement.

They are set up to fail.

That said, when you find wrong doing you certainly should try to effect positive change.

We got to end the drug war.

Why ain't BLM going broken record on this point?

Hate the game, not the players.


While that's all very true, including the fact that you can't entirely blame the cops, drugs are not the reason why the cops are so scared of citizens that they have a finger on the trigger when stopping people for even minor offenses - it's guns.

Every one of these shootings happened in a state with very liberal gun laws and every one of these shootings happened because cops tought that soon-to-be dead guy had a gun, whether he did or not.

But oh no, nobody wants to talk about that.



A black market for illegal stuff people want will create a climate of violence.

Hence, blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks.

Legalize it and let your doc take care of your addiction issues.

8% of people who do coke get addicted.

Legalize it and use the freed up resources to deal with addicts.

Criminalizing addiction just makes the condition worse.




All true but still not the reason why people get executed by cops.

Nobody gets shot for drug possession.

Cops are jumpy because the citizenry is armed to the tooth.

In concealed and open carry states - even more so.



Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 08:15 PM




Do you understand what the conclusions drawn there represent?
(I'm very familiar with all the surrounding rhetoric etc, in other words that link wasn't what I was asking for...)
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 08:19 PM

There were over 11 million arrests in the US, during 2014.
In that same year, only ~1000 people were killed by police.
That's < .01%.
Of those surely some were justified.

Perhaps some scale is in order and perhaps the hyperbole isn't helpful.

Even gun violence is totally overrated.
About the same number of people commit suicide by "suffocation" as there are gun homicides in total.

All this chicken little BS is out of hand.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 08:39 PM

Same year, Chicago had ~ 420 homicides.
Only 17 of those people were killed by police.

I think it's safe to assume some of those 17 were also involved in the 400+ other homicides, yet the cops are the murdering bad guys?
Seriously?
That's the conclusion people are drawing?

roflmao


Panem et circenses.

Now returning you to your NFL broadcast...
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 09:02 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant



Do you understand what the conclusions drawn there represent?
(I'm very familiar with all the surrounding rhetoric etc, in other words that link wasn't what I was asking for...)


I definitely don't understand what you're asking for if you question:

Quote:
but when DOJ reports come out and reveal that they've been correct to protest the way people are being treated by law enforcement people


...and I respond with a DOJ report explicitly stating DOJ found reasonable cause to believe...

Quote:
the Baltimore Police Department engaged in a pattern or practice of unlawful and unconstitutional conduct, ranging from the use of excessive force to unjustified stops, seizures and arrests.



Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant



Do you understand what the conclusions drawn there represent?


They represent proof of bird's assertion.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 09:34 PM

No, there are two non sequiturs and you're not addressing the protest clause.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 09:35 PM

Aside from that, do you understand what the DOJs conclusions are actually based on?
Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
No, there are two non sequiturs and you're not addressing the protest clause.


???

The Constitution says citizens can petition for a redress of grievances. A DOJ report (that may well be dogshit) saying citizens' 4th Amendment Rights were violated seems to lend an awful lot of credibility (that may well be dogshit) to any peaceful, law-abiding protest. Unless dogshit, I don't see what's wrong with use of the words "correct to protest".

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Aside from that, do you understand what the DOJs conclusions are actually based on?


I think so. Reading the reports, they list data/documentation from Baltimore/Ferguson PD and interviewing everyone and their brother. In Baltimore's case, they explicitly didn't include anything related to Freddie Gray. In the Baltimore report, it's the 4th page as you scroll, labeled page 1. In the Ferguson report, it's the 5th page, labeled page 4.

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi...ment_report.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/883366/download

It sounded like you were calling into question the existence of the DOJ reports, not their quality.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 10:30 PM

The constitution /= the DOJ report.
I'm curious what in the DOJ report specifically leads to that conclusion.
I'm also questioning the validity of the report.

In my understanding criminals are not recorded by race in Baltimore.
Please correct me otherwise.
So my question has to do with the logical sequence of thought.
How is it then that one can draw conclusions about people being unfairly targeted by police if the frequency of commission of crime isn't accounted for?
Cops *respond* to crime calls.
If I call 911 and say a white person attacked me but then a black person is shot by police responding to that call, well then you might have a single case.
Even then it can still be an accident, violently resisting because "the cops are bigots" etc...

I don't expect you to speak for bird and perhaps that's not the best way to discuss this.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/22/16 10:49 PM

The institutionalized responses of the broken windows policing modes are almost universally instigated by the city's elected leadership and developed at the management level at these agencies; they are not formed at the street level by the individual cops. Holding the individual cops personally responsible for the particulars of those policies is illogical. What they're responsible for is working within the established framework, and what they should get criticized or punished for is when they act outside of that framework. .

If it's really about the community, the place to protest is city hall and the city council meetings and focusing on the actual decision makers for those policies. A civic leader who calls for more police activity in a neighborhood and then attempts to blame the cops for what occurs in response to that is nothing but a hypocrite and a coward.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/23/16 09:08 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-black-outreach/501242/



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opini...923-column.html

!! : )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/24/16 12:15 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/24/16 05:36 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


insiders accuse each other of institutional racism

outsiders nod their head "you're both right" !! ) shrug

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/24/16 05:40 AM

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/uw...15d937d4b0.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/24/16 12:10 PM



If you doubt the truth of this picture read up on the case of Autumn Pasquale.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/24/16 04:43 PM

How can she talk if she is dead?

I"m calling BS!
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/25/16 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


If you doubt the truth of this picture read up on the case of Autumn Pasquale.


How is this germane? Are you dissatisfied with whatever justice was administered?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 10:25 AM

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/24/come-cle...more-dangerous/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 10:29 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...acism-on-obama/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 10:29 AM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...otest/90749668/









shrug
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 03:33 PM

Too much PC
Not enough PC

Very different messages

But the commentary you posted equated them as the same message, and decry the difference in reaction as being racist. When in fact its a consistent reaction.

shrug
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


If you doubt the truth of this picture read up on the case of Autumn Pasquale.


Was she killed by 2 cops?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Too much PC
Not enough PC

Very different messages

But the commentary you posted equated them as the same message, and decry the difference in reaction as being racist. When in fact its a consistent reaction.

shrug


Consistent with what? You do the same bullshit all the time.

Hypocrisy is inherent part of bigotry.

When a presidential candidate says that America sucks, he gets elected.
When an immigrant says that there are problems in this country that need fixing, he's told to "assimilate or leave the country.

Xenotards, both of you.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Too much PC
Not enough PC

Very different messages

But the commentary you posted equated them as the same message, and decry the difference in reaction as being racist. When in fact its a consistent reaction.

shrug








roflmao



shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/26/16 05:09 PM

i LOVED YOUR LIBERAL EXTRAPOLATION btw !! )


Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/27/16 08:59 AM

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/hillary-clings-myth-systemic-racism-first-debate/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/27/16 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
the difference in reaction as being racist.
shrug


what MAKES you say that ?? )


shrug
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/27/16 02:01 PM

Well, you seem to be obsessed with the subject.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/27/16 08:29 PM

I don't think Trump understands greatness.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/28/16 10:23 AM

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016...ias-racism-hate

third paragraph !! ) monkey roflmao


_____________------------------------_______________





http://billmoyers.com/story/dog-whistle-politics-racism/

Quote:
Partly the error is tactical. Linking dog whistling to personal prejudice reduces the issue to one of racial feelings. Accusations of dog whistling become a debate about someone’s soul, an issue of whether they are prejudiced or not — where no one can know what lies in the heart of another.


Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/28/16 02:46 PM

If Whitety Von Crackerstein can get a response by using a dog whistle so can Blackie McIhatewhites.

If you say Blackie has no power, I say, he's asserting it right now.

The problem is Mr and Ms Middle Class Black and White Just Trying to Live My Life takes the hit.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I find this whole thing boring at this point and see no one up to the task of effectively addressing the issue.

Just Sound and Fury.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/28/16 04:36 PM

You can tell who has the power by what you are and are not allowed to criticize.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/28/16 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
You can tell who has the power by what you are and are not allowed to criticize.



Yes.

Posted By: Sharkbiscuit

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/28/16 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Too much PC
Not enough PC

Very different messages

But the commentary you posted equated them as the same message, and decry the difference in reaction as being racist. When in fact its a consistent reaction.

shrug


$.02

If Kaepernick's gripe had jack dick to do with being PC, he'd probably favor HRC instead of throwing her under the same bus he is throwing Trump under. Seems to be anything BUT politically correct - a display during the national anthem?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 09:29 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...protesters.html

h t t p : / / w w w.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812805/White-student-gorilla-mask-overalls-carrying-noose-tied-bananas-charged-facing-against-Black-Lives-Matter-protesters.html



monkey


_____________________---------------------_______________________


http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/19503/ups_has_a_racism_problem



shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 11:07 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...protesters.html

h t t p : / / w w w.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812805/White-student-gorilla-mask-overalls-carrying-noose-tied-bananas-charged-facing-against-Black-Lives-Matter-protesters.html



monkey


_____________________---------------------_______________________


http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/19503/ups_has_a_racism_problem



shrug


That's probably racist but it's also funny.

Both side are guilty of failing to socially engage, which can only mean escalation.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 07:01 PM

Yelling and screaming hateful messages begets the same response in return. How could they expect the double standard - wherein they claim a protected status from public rebuke - to hold?

BLM may think race relations can't get worse, but I think they're dead wrong about that.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...protesters.html

h t t p : / / w w w.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812805/White-student-gorilla-mask-overalls-carrying-noose-tied-bananas-charged-facing-against-Black-Lives-Matter-protesters.html



monkey


_____________________---------------------_______________________


http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/19503/ups_has_a_racism_problem



shrug


That's probably racist but it's also funny.

Both side are guilty of failing to socially engage, which can only mean escalation.


Rettke also carried with him a burlap sack that had a Confederate battle flag and marijuana leaf on it. He told officers he bought the attire and items to provoke the Black Lives Matter protesters after having learned about it on social media site Yik Yak.

Farnor and Grimes both said they would have both welcomed their antagonizer to peacefully protest next to them, acknowledging his right to freedom of speech, but because the man in the gorilla mask had not cleared with the university and was causing such an uproar, the chance went away.
http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Educatio...faceoff-at-ETSU
Posted By: Surfdog

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 07:30 PM

Tolerance.....

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 09/29/16 07:32 PM

The East Tennessean, the newspaper on campus which first reported the incident, quoted one of the protesters explaining why they didn’t react angrily. “I was going to let him stay as long as he wanted to,” Jaylen Grimes told the East Tennessean, “because once white people see how the counterpart of their same culture acts, they can just reflect on that and see, ‘Oh, I’m not like that. Oh, I actually might want to help.’ And they might want to push against what his thoughts and what his beliefs are.”

“Violence is not our answer to anything,” Grimes said. “Because once you fight fire with fire, it just starts a larger fire. And where there’s more fire, there’s more destruction.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grad...matter-protest/
Posted By: GDaddy

kid getting beat by the mob - 09/29/16 07:34 PM

I happened to be watching the live feed of the aerial footage when that assault went down. I was wondering what set them off.

Offhand I'd say his civil rights were violated.

BTW, the guy spelled his last name as Jabro, which is a common surname among the Chaldeans. aka Iraqi Catholics, many of whom have fled to the US to escape religious persecution from muslims in their home countries.

There are lots of Chaldeans in El Cajon, and they're well represented in the business community. I've been doing business in that town for 25 years and my guess is that this incident has probably already made the rounds among the Chaldeans.
.

I pity any crook who foolishly attempts to hold up or loot one of those businesses at this point because they're probably all up-armed by now.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 09/30/16 11:04 AM

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/24/deplorable-sherry-hall-arrested/

http://www.inquisitr.com/3539603/sherry-...ames-black-man/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pos...797f_story.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/01/16 09:50 AM

this one will cleanse your palate !! ( :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/insp...-buys-him-bike/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 10:47 AM

http://www.peacock-panache.com/2016/09/dan-johnson-ky-racism-25006.html


shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 11:33 AM

We've reached a point in this country where young people have never faced any real hardship in life. They now have to imagine their hardship and see it where it doesn't exist then seek out their imaginary safe space where they can hide from their imaginary threat.
Posted By: test_article

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
We've reached a point in this country where young people have never faced any real hardship in life. They now have to imagine their hardship and see it where it doesn't exist then seek out their imaginary safe space where they can hide from their imaginary threat.


Are you writing about the coming Millennial neo-Nazi uprising? Reference ifallalot.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 10:32 PM

Lots of young people living shitty traumatic lives in the USA.
Posted By: test_article

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Lots of young people living shitty traumatic lives in the USA.



Are you writing about the coming Millennial neo-Nazi uprising?
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 10:39 PM

I didn't know there was one coming.

I hope not.
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/02/16 10:44 PM



Settle down trigglybro.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/02/16 10:58 PM



"If you are acquainted with the principle, what do you care for a myriad instances and applications." ~Henry David Thoreau

Although a myriad of instances and applications does sort of dispel the myth of racism as a myth, doesn't it?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/03/16 10:11 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilana-greenstein/racism-sexism-and-third-g_b_12020338.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/04/16 09:31 AM

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/30/trump-lo...obama-lynching/




________________-----------------------------------____________________________



Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/05/16 12:53 PM

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/ent...ver_after_dark/

h t t p : / /w w w . ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/entry/minority_drivers_less_likely_to_be_pulled_over_after_dark/

shrug

___________-----------------------_________________





http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/209377120-story

monkey
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/05/16 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Lots of young people living shitty traumatic lives in the USA.



Are you writing about the coming Millennial neo-Nazi uprising?


So now you're blabbering about a neo-Nazi uprising (nice imagination) and accusing posters of being neo-Nazis?

trout

Fcking troll, as usual.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/05/16 05:50 PM

We could post videos all day long showing reports of blacks committing crimes of violence against whites and asians. Applying the benchmarks currently being used to keep score of black grievances to those acts of violence would depict a stark picture of racist violence, all right.
Posted By: test_article

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/05/16 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Lots of young people living shitty traumatic lives in the USA.



Are you writing about the coming Millennial neo-Nazi uprising?


So now you're blabbering about a neo-Nazi uprising (nice imagination) and accusing posters of being neo-Nazis?


Fascistas are all the same to me. Clean up your act kid.
Posted By: test_article

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/05/16 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
I seriously just want to kill like 200 million Americans and start over


...sharpening those guillotines, eh ifallalot?
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/05/16 06:18 PM

Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Lots of young people living shitty traumatic lives in the USA.



Are you writing about the coming Millennial neo-Nazi uprising?


So now you're blabbering about a neo-Nazi uprising (nice imagination) and accusing posters of being neo-Nazis?


Fascistas are all the same to me. Clean up your act kid.


My act is squeaky clean. I'm not the one throwing around terms like neo-Nazi.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/06/16 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
We could post videos all day long showing reports of blacks committing crimes of violence against whites and asians. Applying the benchmarks currently being used to keep score of black grievances to those acts of violence would depict a stark picture of racist violence, all right.






any other suggestions ?? ) shrug

_______________--------------------------________________

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hinton-duane-buck-future-crime-20161004-snap-story.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/201...-penalty-debate

______________________------------------________________
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/trump-white-supremacy-racism-revival/Content?oid=23812562

____________________________------------------_____________


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/fox-news-takes-a-trip-to-chinatown-racism-ensues.html
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/06/16 02:17 PM

Interviewing dumb people is just an unfunny trope, used by the left and the right.

Not really a relevant problem when it comes to racism.

Race problems stem from trauma of poverty amid such wealth and the compression that is occurring in the middle class due to many variables.

Pretty simple.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/07/16 09:23 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/newsletters/2016/10/06/race-related?nlid=59080177
Posted By: sirfun

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/08/16 11:05 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos...m=.68da43c07b38
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: kid getting beat by the mob - 10/08/16 11:31 AM

Why is this thread still going?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/09/16 12:36 PM

http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/10/06/g...-toward-whites/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/10/16 11:21 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/o...t-the-alt-right
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 10:04 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grad...dren/?tid=a_inl
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 12:58 PM



Thls is backlash for the current trend of overemphasizing identity politics.

To my social engineering friends I say, sure and steady win the race. Don't run to your deaths.

Of course they won't listen.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax


Thls is backlash for the current trend of overemphasizing identity politics.

To my social engineering friends I say, sure and steady win the race. Don't run to your deaths.

Of course they won't listen.


odd that you mention it shrug

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.ec52ca185938
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 03:29 PM

or http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/nyregi...ditor.html?_r=0

It's an interesting issue re Asians. They can be here for generations, be fully assimilated and still look like outsiders. Shows how "just assimilate" isn't as easy for some as others.
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 04:38 PM

There's so much more black on white crime that people think it's normal. Here's a sample of what has popped up in the news outlets just in the last week.


http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/investigations-underway-for-concord-homicide/329463867

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-southea...obbery-arrested

http://abc7.com/news/suspect-stood-over-and-executed-sheriffs-sergeant-authorities-say/1542600/

http://kfor.com/2016/10/07/police-arrest-third-person-in-connection-to-death-of-oklahoma-city-man/

http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Prosecution-finishes-closing-arguments--396160811.html


http://wncn.com/2016/10/03/3rd-person-charged-with-robbery-and-murder-of-nc-grandfather/

http://www.wsmv.com/story/33188317/tourist-shot-killed-in-downtown-nashville

http://www.thv11.com/news/local/arrest-made-in-shooting-of-nc-woman-at-ark-gas-station/328898026

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2016/September/27/Bolden_arr-27Sep16.htm

http://www.wpxi.com/news/2-teens-charged...uippa/453012507

http://m.wbrc.com/myfoxal/db_368997/cont...amp;ps=#display

http://fox59.com/2016/09/28/zionsville-h...ting-near-area/

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/33273632/sixteen-year-old-charged-with-jacksons-50th-homicide

http://abc7chicago.com/news/champaign-police-issue-warrant-in-university-of-illinois-murder/1530342/

Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/11/16 09:10 PM

The current narrative would be pretty insulting if I identified as white.
Then people act so shocked when you point out how it's not even remotely true.

roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/12/16 09:25 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/arc...earning/503567/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/12/16 02:47 PM



You really think it's race more than poverty?

I don't get that.

What makes a school shitty is traumatized students. Being poor is traumatic.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/13/16 10:39 AM








shrug


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/magazi...he-streets.html


http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article107654812.html
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/13/16 04:18 PM

Always playing with words to distort the meanings and intent.


"America was great, we can do it again by reversing the deterioration of our culture"

"America was never great, we have a long way to go to dismantle this culture"


These are two diametrically opposed messages. Regardless of which worldview you advocate, if you cheer for one it would make no sense to cheer for the other.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/13/16 04:33 PM

I think both messages miss the mark.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/13/16 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Always playing with words to distort the meanings and intent.


"America was great, we can do it again by reversing the deterioration of our culture"

"America was never great, we have a long way to go to dismantle this culture"


These are two diametrically opposed messages. Regardless of which worldview you advocate, if you cheer for one it would make no sense to cheer for the other.




you dint read the articles ?? ) shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/14/16 11:41 AM

http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-raci...omments-2431421
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/15/16 09:27 AM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/14/donald-trump-secular-catholic-priest.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/16/16 10:01 AM

NBC Sports pointed out that Jackie Robinson, who broke Major League Baseball’s color barrier in 1947 by joining the Brooklyn Dodgers and was one of Ali’s critics, expressed almost the exact same sentiment as Kaepernick when reflecting on his historic first World Series in his 1972 autobiography I Never Had It Made (emphasis added):

There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the National anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Nobel Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. [Branch] Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never made it.

http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/13/12710860/colin-kaepernick-anthem-protest-explained

"N" word trigger warning !! )

you gonna laugh !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/17/16 08:29 AM

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/election...r-intimidation/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/18/16 07:57 AM

h t t p : / / w w w .nytimes.com/2016/10/18/us/official-apologizes-for-police-role-in-mistrust-by-minorities.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/us/off...minorities.html

shrug

h t t p s : / / w w w .bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/17/civil-rights-groups-say-trump-voter-fraud-rhetoric-coded-racism/kS91WbsHWduQYRVUVUeLyJ/story.html

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politic...eLyJ/story.html

shrug
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/18/16 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
h t t p : / / w w w .nytimes.com/2016/10/18/us/official-apologizes-for-police-role-in-mistrust-by-minorities.html


shrug


shrug


That guy's just a liberal dicktard.
Posted By: _Pico

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/18/16 05:51 PM

All white people are racists
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/19/16 11:09 AM

http://krqe.com/2016/10/18/mother-son-gets-in-trouble-after-being-victim-of-racism/
Posted By: GWS

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/19/16 04:09 PM

Sirfun, I'm curious.

Years ago I thought it was weird when people showed up on surfing forums to discuss nothing but politics.

You're like a subset of that, you come here to discuss nothing but racism.

Do you do this elsewhere around the internet on other forums? What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/20/16 08:22 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
Sirfun, I'm curious.



cheers

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/ana-navarro-and-the-p-word
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/20/16 08:25 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS


Years ago I thought it was weird when people showed up on surfing forums to discuss nothing but politics.



I too miss DicoTex as well !! )


roflmao roflmao roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/20/16 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS


You're like a subset of that, you come here to discuss nothing but racism.



I am sure GDaddy will disagree with this as well !! )

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...opocene/504134/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/20/16 08:34 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.


the difference in thread premise and and title is compelling !! )

enthusiasm is everything ! )

h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-kids-michigan-bring-back-slavery-article-1.2660272

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2660272
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/21/16 11:20 AM

http://time.com/4539864/donald-trump-walks-interview-racism/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/21/16 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GWS
What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.


the difference in thread premise and and title is compelling !! )

enthusiasm is everything ! )

h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-kids-michigan-bring-back-slavery-article-1.2660272

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2660272


You are just doing what the dummies on the right are doing, which is to failing to understand the the issue, which is neurological in nature, driven by a fear shared by both groups.

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.

That makes me sad because I would like to solve this problem and get back to enjoying the fun of life.

Thanks, you.
Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/21/16 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GWS
What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.


the difference in thread premise and and title is compelling !! )

enthusiasm is everything ! )

h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-kids-michigan-bring-back-slavery-article-1.2660272

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2660272


You are just doing what the dummies on the right are doing, which is to failing to understand the the issue, which is neurological in nature, driven by a fear shared by both groups.

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.

That makes me sad because I would like to solve this problem and get back to enjoying the fun of life.

Thanks, you.


Do you need some guinea pigs?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 09:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GWS
What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.


the difference in thread premise and and title is compelling !! )

enthusiasm is everything ! )

h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-kids-michigan-bring-back-slavery-article-1.2660272

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2660272


You are just doing what the dummies on the right are doing, which is to failing to understand the the issue, which is neurological in nature, driven by a fear shared by both groups.

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.

That makes me sad because I would like to solve this problem and get back to enjoying the fun of life.

Thanks, you.

Racism, thus defined, is a modern conception, for prior to the XVIth century there was virtually nothing in the life and thought of the West that can be described as racist.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: test_article
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GWS
What motivated you to do this? There's got to be some kind of a backstory here.


the difference in thread premise and and title is compelling !! )

enthusiasm is everything ! )

h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-kids-michigan-bring-back-slavery-article-1.2660272

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2660272


You are just doing what the dummies on the right are doing, which is to failing to understand the the issue, which is neurological in nature, driven by a fear shared by both groups.

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.

That makes me sad because I would like to solve this problem and get back to enjoying the fun of life.

Thanks, you.


Do you need some guinea pigs?


http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/02/5...as-guinea-pigs/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 09:39 AM

Originally Posted By: GWS
I know this isn't popular, but I don't view racism as a political position any more than I view child molestation as being a political position.


not quite as compelling as the OP's premise but everyone has their OWN BELIEFS !! )

shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 09:40 AM

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2...e-people-racist
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 09:40 AM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...otest/90749668/








Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Religion = politics; politics = religion. A choice people can and do make.
Religon /= race, or gender, or age. Attributes over which people have no control or choice
Duh


http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=2528812


Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 10:26 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 10:48 AM























wave2




Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 11:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.




your doing it wrong !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 12:25 PM

http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2559057#Post2559057
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 12:30 PM



cheers

I will use you as a reference !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 12:36 PM

Got any great surfing experiences you can share?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


IN THE WATER OR ON THE INTERNET ?? )

CHOOSE WISELY !! )

nana
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 01:45 PM

I knew you wouldn't.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.




your doing it wrong !! )


Now you're just being silly.

That's my job.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/22/16 02:59 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


IN THE WATER OR ON THE INTERNET ?? )

CHOOSE WISELY !! )

nana


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
I knew you wouldn't.


of course I will !! )

but while you are on your way

I hope there is no EMERGENCY !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 12:09 PM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


IN THE WATER OR ON THE INTERNET ?? )

CHOOSE WISELY !! )

nana


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
I knew you wouldn't.


of course I will !! )

but while you are on your way

I hope there is no EMERGENCY !! )


One wonders how often faulty neuroception gets mistaken for racism.

One person's traumatic event is another's event.

I suspect agism is at work there too.


Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 03:51 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: GWS
I know this isn't popular, but I don't view racism as a political position any more than I view child molestation as being a political position.


not quite as compelling as the OP's premise but everyone has their OWN BELIEFS !! )

shrug




Originally Posted By: GWS
posts almost exclusively about racism



to clarify (for the umpteenth dancing time for the non-comprehending !! )

I am posting about Religious Views being FORCED such as

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.






( !! ( ?? maybe if I used the word "SHAPED " ?? ) !! )


I am posting about Religious Views that SHAPED are shaping and will shape our daily lives !! )

hence ( in America not Iran !! )

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if he loses, Donald Trump isn’t going away. But the man and the political phenomenon he has unleashed over the past 16 months are already posing a difficult chicken-or-egg question: Has Trump transformed America, or simply revealed it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...3b66_story.html

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

that is actually a good article and of course the comments are more BOLD than your average child mole Esther !! )







dancing
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 04:40 PM

and Gromsdad and GWS- it is ok (and I fully expect !! )

to be critiqued on my posting style

when Y'all dint like my rhetoric

but cant or wont refudiate it !! )
roflmao roflmao roflmao

(just as others before Y'all have

through the years

concerning CharmSoph's theological musings !! ) roflmao



Originally Posted By: GWS
posts almost exclusively about racism


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I refudiate this B.S. !! )



Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: sirfun
I know this sounds extremely condescending

but I am not at all surprised

that you and 20 Right/Alt right web sights

swallowed this hook, line, and sinker !! ) roflmao





"Certain Elements" in our systemic environment

cultivate a religious predilection

for swallowing and regurgitating B.S. !! )





Were you similarly hoodwinked on the run-up to Iraq ?? )


shrug


Sorry I was doing my best impression of rushing to judgement like BLM supporters usually do. They know best, and was just using their tactics. rolleyes


WAY TO OWN YOUR BEHAVIOR !! )

I also model my actions after the highly respected BLM !! )


monkey


http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=2548862


roflmao roflmao roflmao
:
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


IN THE WATER OR ON THE INTERNET ?? )

CHOOSE WISELY !! )

nana


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
I knew you wouldn't.


of course I will !! )

but while you are on your way

I hope there is no EMERGENCY !! )

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


THANX FOR SHARING !! )

IS THAT YOU ?? )

I ALWAYS TOOK YOU AS A GOOFY !! ) shrug





Originally Posted By: GromsDad


OH THERE'S THE GOOFY !! )

IS THAT YOU ?? )

YOUR CUTE !! )

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/23/donald-t...looks-brighter/
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/23/16 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
and Gromsdad and GWS- it is ok (and I fully expect !! )

to be critiqued on my posting style

when Y'all dint like my rhetoric

but cant or wont refudiate it !! )
roflmao roflmao roflmao

(just as others before Y'all have

through the years

concerning CharmSoph's theological musings !! ) roflmao



Originally Posted By: GWS
posts almost exclusively about racism


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I refudiate this B.S. !! )



Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: sirfun
I know this sounds extremely condescending

but I am not at all surprised

that you and 20 Right/Alt right web sights

swallowed this hook, line, and sinker !! ) roflmao





"Certain Elements" in our systemic environment

cultivate a religious predilection

for swallowing and regurgitating B.S. !! )





Were you similarly hoodwinked on the run-up to Iraq ?? )


shrug


Sorry I was doing my best impression of rushing to judgement like BLM supporters usually do. They know best, and was just using their tactics. rolleyes


WAY TO OWN YOUR BEHAVIOR !! )

I also model my actions after the highly respected BLM !! )


monkey


http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=2548862


roflmao roflmao roflmao
:
roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 08:20 AM

cheers

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao




h t t p : / / w w w.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/calle-houston/article/Is-there-a-right-way-to-tell-a-racist-joke-9288977.php

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyl...oke-9288977.php
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 08:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.




your doing it wrong !! )


Now you're just being silly.

That's my job
.


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 10:52 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


ANOTHER GOOFY POST !! )










simon says

i COMMAND you to post in this thread everyday !! )) ))) )))) ))))) roflmao







Originally Posted By: sirfun
cheers

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao




h t t p : / / w w w.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/calle-houston/article[color:#FF0000]/Is-there-a-right-way-to-tell-a-racist-joke-[/color]9288977.php

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyl...oke-9288977.php



Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 01:49 PM

Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 03:39 PM

I think you should just disengage with racists. All that talk about "serious discussion"? It's a lie.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/24/16 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.




your doing it wrong !! )


Now you're just being silly.

That's my job
.


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Which one am I again?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 12:25 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 12:39 AM

Temple University students get a lesson on race: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/10...emple-students/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: Autoprax

This failure to understand the other's fear is the key to never solving this problem.




your doing it wrong !! )


Now you're just being silly.

That's my job
.


Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )


Which one am I again?


RELIGIOUS ?? )


http://articles.latimes.com/1990-04-09/local/me-664_1_helen-gahagan-douglas
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 01:57 AM

I'm kind of a spiritual man, like Caine in Kung Fu, except I can't fight no good.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Are those your kids,? otherwise it's kinda creepy
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 01:59 AM

cheers

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
I think you should just disengage with racists. All that talk about "serious discussion"? It's a lie.


http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/ent...ver_after_dark/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I'm kind of a spiritual man, like Caine in Kung Fu, except I can't fight no good.


I often mask true sincerity

with false sincerity !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 09:09 AM

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-racism-behind-trumps-rigged-election-talk-w446461
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 10:40 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Temple University students get a lesson on race: http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/10...emple-students/



Racial attacks by black youths against white college students.......crickets.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 12:20 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
..crickets.


I know right ?? )

shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
..crickets.


I know right ?? )

shrug


Must just tear you up to see such blatant racism and violence against white people.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
..crickets.


I know right ?? )

shrug


Must just tear you up to see such blatant racism and violence against white people.


do you mean tear ?? )
bawling

or

do you mean tear ?? )





shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:03 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:13 PM

DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:13 PM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl...otest/90749668/








Originally Posted By: GDaddy
Religion = politics; politics = religion. A choice people can and do make.
Religon /= race, or gender, or age. Attributes over which people have no control or choice
Duh


http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=2528812



Originally Posted By: GromsDad
..crickets.


I know right ?? )

shrug

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/ent...ver_after_dark/

shrug

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyl...oke-9288977.php

ht t p : / /w w w.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/calle-houston/article/Is-there-a-right-way-to-tell-a-racist-joke-9288977.php

shrug
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug


No.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug


No.


Edited by sirfun (10/25/16 12:27 PM)
Edit Reason: there is no better politically incorrect phrase than "BASKET OF DEPLORABLES
Posted By: GWS

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 03:26 PM

crazy2
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: GWS
crazy2

Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug


No.


Edited by sirfun (10/25/16 12:27 PM)
Edit Reason: there is no better politically incorrect phrase than "BASKET OF DEPLORABLES


Retreat to your safe space trigglybro. It's getting ugly out there.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


EVERY MORN

on the way to swim laps

I cut through

the empty gym

in a key lower than Vaughn Monroe

I sing at the top of my lungs !! )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyDNnQbbkSQ
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 05:44 PM

Hey Sirfun. An article just for you: http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/10/25/...campaign=buffer
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 05:56 PM

deplorable !!


Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/25/16 10:16 PM

Yeah, there's no racism out there: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-in-charleston/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/26/16 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug


No.


Edited by sirfun (10/25/16 12:27 PM)
Edit Reason: there is no better politically incorrect phrase than "BASKET OF DEPLORABLES


Retreat to your safe space trigglybro. It's getting ugly out there.


just support the OP as GromsDad supports me !! )

Quote:
Because race is different. Racism is different. It’s hard to discuss without offending people. As a result, we often choose not to discuss it at all.


http://time.com/4544356/jodi-picoult-confronts-racism/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/26/16 11:24 AM

This is Obama's Legacy

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...m_medium=social

It now appears that the mob of mostly black teens had arranged the attacks using Instagram, the Philadelphia Inquirer noted.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 09:02 AM

h t t p s : / / w w w .washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/10/26/the-mainstreaming-of-racism-on-fox-news/?utm_term=.53cc713c678e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig...m=.53cc713c678e shrug

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h t t p : / / w w w .nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-college-rocked-racist-photos-involving-pro-trump-imagery-article-1.2845112


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2845112 roflmao
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 02:01 PM

What do you think the best changes we could make to address race in America?

I think: legalize drugs,

Deminilitrarize the police.

Massive investment in infrastructure.

Oky, your turn
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 05:44 PM

You can do all the above but it won't make a dent on race relations.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
You can do all the above but it won't make a dent on race relations.


That's true.

Nothing will change until the bigoted dinosaurs' like yourself die off.

There are 12 million new, young voters every election cycle. Bye Felicia!
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: GDaddy
You can do all the above but it won't make a dent on race relations.


That's true.

Nothing will change until the bigoted dinosaurs' like yourself die off.

There are 12 million new, young voters every election cycle. Bye Felicia!

Racism is just as much a problem on both sides now.

https://ayadeleon.wordpress.com/2014/10/...ay-of-the-dead/
Posted By: _Pico

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/27/16 07:54 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/28/16 07:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
What do you think the best changes we could make to address race in America?

I think: legalize drugs,

Deminilitrarize the police.

Massive investment in infrastructure.

Oky, your turn
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/28/16 07:56 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^































let this document be our guide !! ( :

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

we have come a long way ?? )

we have a ways to go !! )

AutoPrax-I missed your routine sluff-off on this one !! )

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/ent...ver_after_dark/

shrug

roflmao

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
What do you think the best changes we could make to address race in America?

I think: legalize drugs,

Deminilitrarize the police.

Massive investment in infrastructure.

Oky, your turn


show up and try ?? )

it got us to the moon !! )

also besides your posted good ideas !! ( : 2 years National Service might be a good idea !! )

you know the Founding Fathers meant healthcare when they mentioned

general Welfare,

that is going to be a wedge for a while !! )))

also to address race

address racial relations

address racism

address racists

is at least 8 different things-so yes I think you are on the right track !! )

______________------------____________------------___________

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/health/doctors-discrimination-racism/

shrug
Posted By: Coat Hanger

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/28/16 04:36 PM

Racism is funny. I mean really funny. I'm not ready to live without it.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/29/16 07:59 AM

FUNNY !! ) roflmao

Their public conference had been interrupted by a demonstration march and a bomb threat, so the white nationalists decided to meet secretly instead. They slipped past police officers and protesters into a hotel in downtown Memphis. The country had elected its first black president just a few days earlier, and now in November 2008, dozens of the world’s most prominent racists wanted to strategize for the years ahead.

“The fight to restore White America begins now,” their agenda read.

The room was filled in part by former heads of the Ku Klux Klan and prominent neo-Nazis, but one of the keynote speeches had been reserved for a Florida community college student who had just turned 19. Derek Black was already hosting his own radio show. He had launched a white nationalist website for children and won a local political election in Florida. “The leading light of our movement,” was how the conference organizer introduced him, and then Derek stepped to the lectern.

“The way ahead is through politics,” he said. “We can infiltrate. We can take the country back.”

Years before Donald Trump launched a presidential campaign based in part on the politics of race and division, a group of avowed white nationalists was working to make his rise possible by pushing its ideology from the radical fringes ever closer to the far conservative right. Many attendees in Memphis had transformed over their careers from Klansmen to white supremacists to self-described “racial realists,” and Derek Black represented another step in that evolution.

He never used racial slurs. He didn’t advocate violence or lawbreaking. He had won a Republican committee seat in Palm Beach County, Fla., where Trump also had a home, without ever mentioning white nationalism, talking instead about the ravages of political correctness, affirmative action and unchecked Hispanic immigration.

He was not only a leader of racial politics but also a product of them. His father, Don Black, had created Stormfront, the Internet’s first and largest white nationalist site, with 300,000 users and counting. His mother, Chloe, had once been married to David Duke, one of the country’s most infamous racial zealots, and Duke had become Derek’s godfather. They had raised Derek at the forefront of the movement, and some white nationalists had begun calling him “the heir.”

FUNNY is goin round !! )roflmao
^^^^^^
link !! )
Posted By: _Pico

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/30/16 06:50 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/n...is-a-supporter/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/30/16 10:11 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...m_medium=social
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/30/16 11:57 PM

Originally Posted By: VonMeister
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
DID YOU SEE MY REASON FOR EDIT ?? )


shrug


No.


Edited by sirfun (10/25/16 12:27 PM)
Edit Reason: there is no better politically incorrect phrase than "BASKET OF DEPLORABLES


Retreat to your safe space trigglybro. It's getting ugly out there.


https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=d...RFEB3MQqgIIKDAA


roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 10/31/16 09:53 AM

“It was maybe harder for me to get to vote after the law than it was all the way back then,” Eaton says.



One morning in 1942, after Eaton’s 21st birthday, she climbed on the family’s mule-drawn wagon with her mother and brother and traveled the eight miles to the Louisburg courthouse. The three white men there were nonplussed.


“They asked me what was I there for,” Eaton says. “And I told them that I came down to see about getting registered.”

In order to even prove herself eligible to vote, Eaton recalled, she had to put her hands by her side, stare straight ahead, and recite the Preamble to the Constitution, verbatim. Whether those three administrators were aware of the staggering irony of their demand or not, she stood straight, stared at a spot behind them on the wall, and aced the recitation, word for word.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/the-battle-for-north-carolina/501257/

----------_________-----------

http://fox6now.com/2016/10/30/this-is-ra...snebraska-game/

roflmao

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/03/16 11:43 AM

This should make Sirfun's head explode. Enjoy.


Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/03/16 03:23 PM

The mean conservative blond girl is such a boring trope.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/11/16 09:36 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/welcome-to-the-second-redemption/507317/

shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/13/16 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


while waiting in the McD drive thru

after dawn patrol they gave me my coffee and I had time

so I took off my booties and

poured the water out the window,

after which I was informed that

they were still "crafting" my breakfast and would I pull up to the park space

and they will bring my order right out, and as the 16 year old girl laughing brought

me my breakfast and the car behind me was *honking* and roflmao and applause2

I was standing out side my car with my suit peeled below my Under Amour !! )


------------------------------_________________________------------------------------------------------

http://theundefeated.com/features/a-question-of-racism/

shrug
Posted By: GDaddy

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/13/16 01:56 PM

LOL

Now we know you don't surf.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/13/16 02:27 PM

http://6abc.com/news/6-hospitalized-after-flash-mob-attack-in-center-city-/1604456/
Posted By: casa_mugrienta

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/13/16 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: GDaddy
LOL

Now we know you don't surf.


"Good surf stories."

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/16/16 09:57 AM

further recognition of the obvious !! ( :

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/11/how-white-power-went-viral/507473/

“When we talk about online radicalization we always talk about Muslims. But the radicalization of ...
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/16/16 02:50 PM

You don't want to work up the herd so it stampedes.

I fear the white cows and the brown cows are getting ready to run!
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/16/16 09:24 PM

That's some serious kumbaya shit there.
Oh yes, love will conquer all and hate will be bred off.

LOL...
Coming from the most hate filled and vitriolic poster here no less!

fooking epic.
Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/16/16 09:26 PM

..on the heels of Trump wining the election no less!

Talk about wishful thinking.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/20/16 02:14 PM

Ignoring race where it needs to be the topic of the conversation is just plain stupid and racist in and of itself. You can't just ignore the elephant in the room simply because, quite frankly, its an elephant.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/20/chi...s-grandson.html

There is only one culture in this country that is murdering its own members at a shocking rate and it isn't protestant NRA members.
Posted By: StuAzole

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/20/16 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Ignoring race where it needs to be the topic of the conversation is just plain stupid and racist in and of itself. You can't just ignore the elephant in the room simply because, quite frankly, its an elephant.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/20/chi...s-grandson.html

There is only one culture in this country that is murdering its own members at a shocking rate and it isn't protestant NRA members.


On the flip side, perhaps your fear of that group is oversold and really part of a larger problem: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/obama-trump-white-backlash/index.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/20/16 07:14 PM



ht t p : / /w w w.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/calle-houston/article/Is-there-a-right-way-to-tell-a-racist-joke-9288977.php

there none funnier than this one !! ( :





roflmao



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------___

he briefly affected the voice of an aristocrat—“have a fine debate with mon conservative frère.” He rolled his eyes and mimed masturbation. “My reaction to that is a jack-off motion so hard it opens a portal into another dimension.”



roflmao roflmao roflmao

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/what-will-become-of-the-dirtbag-left

______________-----------------------________________------------------------------




jam_onAWESOME COMMENTS SECTION !! )

THANX FOR ALL OF THE HELP AND

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GROMSDAD !! )

roflmao roflmao roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/20/16 07:14 PM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

The thing is, it's easy to tune out Fundamentalist Christians

that you find annoying whereas it's damned near impossible

to tune out "liberal/progressives" because

they've been so successful at

foisting their collective



religious

views on our daily lives

using the power of law
.




Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/20/16 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun








That also wonderfully illustrates GDaddy's dumbass idea of what assimilation means.

Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/21/16 09:44 PM

Quote:
Now the votes are in, and Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him. You can read the Washington Post article, Trump Got More Votes From People Of Color Than Romney Did, or look at the raw data (source)

Trump made gains among blacks. He made gains among Latinos. He made gains among Asians. The only major racial group where he didn’t get a gain of greater than 5% was white people. I want to repeat that: the group where Trump’s message resonated least over what we would predict from a generic Republican was the white population.

Nor was there some surge in white turnout.
I don’t think we have official numbers yet, but by eyeballing what data we have it looks very much like whites turned out in equal or lesser numbers this year than in 2012, 2008, and so on.



http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 11/22/16 07:21 AM

Originally Posted By: psykophant
Quote:
Now the votes are in, and Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him. You can read the Washington Post article, Trump Got More Votes From People Of Color Than Romney Did, or look at the raw data (source)

Trump made gains among blacks. He made gains among Latinos. He made gains among Asians. The only major racial group where he didn’t get a gain of greater than 5% was white people. I want to repeat that: the group where Trump’s message resonated least over what we would predict from a generic Republican was the white population.

Nor was there some surge in white turnout.
I don’t think we have official numbers yet, but by eyeballing what data we have it looks very much like whites turned out in equal or lesser numbers this year than in 2012, 2008, and so on.



http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/



my fav parts !! ( :



If you insist that Trump would have to be racist to say or do whatever awful thing he just said or did, you are giving him too much credit. roflmao roflmao roflmao

no one has ever accused me of that !! ) roflmao roflmao roflmao
once again Congratulations to Fecal Face and Michael Moore for their correct predictions !! )


Trump is just randomly and bizarrely terrible. Sometimes his random and bizarre terribleness is about white people, and then we laugh it off. Sometimes it’s about minorities, and then we interpret it as racism.

roflmao roflmao roflmao



You can argue that he and his supporters are biased for caring more about terrorism than about furniture-related injuries, which kill several times more Americans than terrorists do each year. But do you see how there’s a difference between “cognitive bias that makes you unreasonably afraid” versus “white supremacy”?

uh yay-yuh !! ) roflmao

and the crux !! ( :

I agree that this is getting into murky territory and that a better answer here would be to deconstruct the word “racism” into a lot of very heterogenous parts, one of which means exactly this sort of thing. But as I pointed out in Part 4, a lot of these accusations shy away from the word “racism” precisely because it’s an ambiguous thing with many heterogenous parts, some of which are understandable and resemble the sort of thing normal-but-flawed human beings might think. Now they say “KKK white nationalism” or “overt white supremacy”. These terms are powerful exactly because they do not permit the gradations of meaning which this subject demands.

Let me say this for the millionth time. I’m not saying Trump doesn’t have some racist attitudes and policies. I am saying that talk of “entire campaign built around white supremacy” and “the white power candidate” is deliberate and dangerous exaggeration. Lots of people (and not just whites!) are hasty to generalize from “ISIS is scary” to “I am scared of all Muslims”. This needs to be called out and fought, but it needs to be done in an understanding way, not with cries of “KKK WHITE SUPREMACY!”


thats a why I NEVER call anyone a racist !! )




----____----____----____----____----____----____----____----____-----_____

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Got any great surfing experiences you can share?


Sunday a Bald Eagle flew in low and starred me down for 5 seconds !! ) jam_on

----____----____----____----____----____----____----____----____-----_____


Originally Posted By: psykophant
That's some serious kumbaya shit there.
Oh yes, love will conquer all and hate will be bred off.

LOL...
Coming from the most hate filled and vitriolic poster here no less!

fooking epic.


Originally Posted By: psykophant
..on the heels of Trump wining the election no less!

Talk about wishful thinking.


laughingpointing anAHierTT Auto-Review no less !! ) roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/02/16 10:47 AM

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2016/11/30/opinion-america-was-racist-before-trump/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/04/16 02:32 PM

One's gotta ask......


Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/04/16 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
One's gotta ask......




Corn subsidies to corporations.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/04/16 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
One's gotta ask......




$1 happy meals and corn syrup.
Corporations like to keep them poor and sick.
It's good for the business.

Any more stupid questions?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/07/16 09:30 AM

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/06/forget-d...atred-and-harm/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/09/16 11:34 AM

***:WARNING:*** "N" word trigger***:WARNING:***


http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/ne...viral/93417938/
roflmao

for all the episodes that end in tragedy there are millions more that end in comedy !! )

y'all stay safe out there !! )

victims of fatal road rage ...

rest in peace
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/15/16 10:11 AM

theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/obamas-faith-in-white-america/510503/


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/obamas-faith-in-white-america/510503/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/15/16 01:27 PM

BO ignored the possible repercussions of faulty neuroception.

Trump's doing it too.

I expect the same bad results to follow.

Why do I see this and they don't?

Please, Donny, call me!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/20/16 11:29 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/20/16 11:35 PM

The Atlantic is about as biased as Infowars. Just let this thread die already!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/20/16 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
The Atlantic is about as biased as Infowars. Just let this thread die already!


your encouragement is always appreciated !! ) cheers
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/25/16 11:56 AM

even the bald have Mohawks !! ) jam_on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2RpdW7SyY
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 12/26/16 11:59 AM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media




http://www.theroot.com/blog/the-grapevin...photo-in-tweet/



roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/05/17 10:54 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
even the bald have Mohawks !! ) jam_on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2RpdW7SyY


And that’s part of the reason why race is such a difficult thing to deal with in politics, because the evolution of racial identity, racial relationships, institutional racism, is never similar. The trajectory, I believe, has been positive. But anything you say on the topic of race, there’s a counterargument, there’s an exception, there’s a nuance. There’s a, Wait, hold on a minute, how about that? And that’s part of the reason why, I think, it creates frustration. It’s also why it’s easy to demagogue. It’s also why situations that look ambiguous can lead to people dividing into camps very quickly.

We think of the two episodes of me running for president, or being president, that on their face, should not have been as charged as they were. The first is when I say at the end of a long day, towards the end of a long campaign, that part of the reason that you had a lot of working-class whites supporting a Republican agenda that on its face doesn’t seem to be serving their interest is because they’ve given up hope that the system is going to look out for them. They feel it’s rigged. So their attitude is that, If you’re not going to help me get a job, if you’re not going do anything concrete for me, then at least I’m going to cling onto my religion and my Second Amendment rights.

And I said that not from an unsympathetic perspective. I was saying something that every writer now who’s writing about Trump voters is saying: that these communities feel ignored, and so it’s much easier for them to think in terms of those constants in their identity. But just by saying, “They cling to their guns and Bibles” made it, as David Axelrod said right after I said it, anthropological, made it sound patronizing, and to this day is the primary proof point that is used to argue that I am not sympathetic towards those communities, that I’m sort of this elitist, coastal liberal, and in part responsible for the backlash to my presidency. And if I had been a white person saying the exact same thing, it wouldn’t have played the same way. If I had said it the way I meant it or felt it, it would have been absorbed differently. But because there was a racial component to it, immediately it becomes a permanent talking point.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/ta-nehisi-coates-obama-transcript-iii/511475/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/05/17 11:51 AM

Do you realize you've replied 4 times in a row to your own thread without a reply?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/10/17 10:49 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.e3c8595d35ef

and now we hear from a woman just down road a piece !! )

I know what it means to be "proud to be deplorable " !! )

“My daughter is 3. She’s a little sponge; she repeats everything,” said Ford, 21, who is biracial. “She asked me: ‘Mommy, we n——?’ ”
Deianeira Ford. (Photo courtesy of Deianeira Ford)
Crying and shaking, Ford dialed 911.
An officer found her sitting in the parking lot in tears. She told him what happened, and he went to talk to Crichton, the DQ owner.
The officer later detailed what Crichton told him in a police report.
He said Crichton was angry.
He was shaking and pacing the floor.
But he did not deny what Ford had said:
“Crichton boastfully told me he would be happy to go to jail over the issue and proudly admitted to calling Ford a n——. He added that he is ‘fed up with black people,’ ” and described an incident in which two “of them” were in his restaurant squirting ketchup all over the floor, according to the officer’s report.
“During the course of my conversation with Crichton, he used the word ‘n—–‘ freely to describe black people,” the officer continued.
-
Still, there was little police could do.
In a statement, Zion Police Chief Steve Dumyahn told The Post that “while this alleged activity is deplorable, it is not criminal.”
So Ford took to Facebook.
She wrote a post describing what had happened. She described how she had asked for the owner’s name after recovering from her shock so she could report him to Dairy Queen’s corporate office. He replied “Bill Clinton then said better yet I’m Donald Trump,” Ford posted.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/15/17 11:24 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/us/politics/obama-presidency-race.html
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/15/17 01:15 PM

I think obama's a pretty cool guy. I'm sure I'd enjoy hanging out with him. I think I'd enjoy hanging out with GWB too. Neither of them was a good president.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/16/17 11:15 AM

EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU !! )

HAVE A GOOD ONE !! )

and remember

a National Holiday awaits

if you give a speech as good as this one !! ( :

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 01/25/17 11:46 AM

A Minnesota cop admitted in court Tuesday that he exchanged "racially charged" text messages with a man on trial for shooting five Black Lives Matter protesters in 2015.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ticle-1.2954960

also

I notice trump is promising FREE STUFF again !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/04/17 11:17 AM

Donald Trump Is Spreading Racism — Not Fighting Terrorism
Daniel Benjamin
Feb 03, 2017
Benjamin was Coordinator for Counterterrorism at the U.S. State Department and is director of The John Sloan Dickey Center for International Understanding at Dartmouth College

http://time.com/4658366/donald-trump-terrorism-racism/
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/04/17 12:48 PM

Muslims are a race now?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/06/17 11:01 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Muslims are a race now?


http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2...sm-muslims-hate
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/06/17 11:54 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/09/17 10:26 AM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/emmett-till-PEHST002258-topic.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/09/17 12:32 PM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/10/17 11:11 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


wave2

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/09/de...reverse-racism/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/10/17 11:55 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/11/17 10:55 AM

roflmaomusta ben countn gromsdads !! ) roflmao
Originally Posted By: GromsDad









http://www.newsweek.com/sport-donald-trump-muhammad-ali-daughter-racism-554619
wave2
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/14/17 08:09 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...d-trump/516420/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/17/17 09:26 AM

bwahahaha !! )

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/movies/jordan-peele-interview-get-out.html



http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/16/t...ack-caucus.html
roflmao
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/19/17 10:38 AM

http://www.abc12.com/content/news/Edited-photo-sparks-conversation-about-racism--414026703.html

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Do you realize you've replied 4 times in a row to your own thread without a reply?


thanx for your help !! ) I couldn't have done it without you !! )

btw-this is YOUR thread !! ) roflmao

Originally Posted By: sirfun
even the bald have Mohawks !! ) jam_on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2RpdW7SyY
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 02/27/17 11:54 PM

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/238410026-story
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/05/17 12:27 PM

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/you-cant-balance-out-racism-1792849358
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/05/17 03:15 PM

You haven't been reading my posts on racism. I broke it all down for you in a way that neither team will be satisfied but I did get to the truth.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/05/17 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
You haven't been reading my posts on racism. I broke it all down for you in a way that neither team will be satisfied but I did get to the truth.
Why would anyone take a viewpoint of the Patriarchy seriously.

(I'm self identifying as a chubby white female college sophomore today)
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/05/17 06:35 PM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )





Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/05/17 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
You haven't been reading my posts on racism. I broke it all down for you in a way that neither team will be satisfied but I did get to the truth.
Why would anyone take a viewpoint of the Patriarchy seriously.

(I'm self identifying as a chubby white female college sophomore today)


The Truth shall set you free!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/06/17 11:26 AM

the Religious have a new chant !! )

and a new cutting edge surrogate for the "N" word !! ( :

http://www.courant.com/opinion/editorial...0302-story.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/06/17 11:28 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/07/17 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: CharmingSophisticate
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
You haven't been reading my posts on racism. I broke it all down for you in a way that neither team will be satisfied but I did get to the truth.
Why would anyone take a viewpoint of the Patriarchy seriously.

(I'm self identifying as a chubby white female college sophomore today)


The Truth shall set you free!



YES !! )

I HAVE !! )

The Supreme Court made a ruling yesterday !! ( :


usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/06/surpeme-court-jury-deliberations-racism-mexican/95015868/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit...xican/95015868/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 11:15 AM

How Get Out deconstructs racism for white people
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 12:09 PM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 01:15 PM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 01:16 PM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 01:17 PM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 01:18 PM

Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad

I so wish I could find a dog breed that looks exactly like a coyote and is the same size. They'd be a great dog
Posted By: heelnipstr

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 03:06 PM

Diversity is a wonderful thing.
Posted By: the janitor

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: GromsDad

I so wish I could find a dog breed that looks exactly like a coyote and is the same size. They'd be a great dog


Maybe Australian cattle dogs?



guessing those needs lots of space and/or exercise though, unless you want your house torn to bits every day
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 05:30 PM

A dingo ate my baby!
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/08/17 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: GromsDad

I so wish I could find a dog breed that looks exactly like a coyote and is the same size. They'd be a great dog


I'd suggest the Border Collie. Dang this breed is smart and fun.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/09/17 09:27 AM

AWESOME PICS !! ) jam_on

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Had a young Coopers Hawk pick a pigeon off in our back yard a couple weeks back and got a few pics. Unfortunately I got too close to the glass and the window fogged. Only shooting from 15 feet away through the window.











I saw a couple of Bald Eagles flying over I-70 near the Ohio/Indiana border Sunday !! )





wave2

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/8/1641424/-A-day-without-racism-Not-for-Trump-s-administration
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/12/17 04:15 PM

Call racism what it is
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/12/17 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun


Cognitive bias, specifically affect bias.

Type I thinking error made by the holders of power.

Faulty neuroception is playing a role too.

Momentum is affecting things too.

How about biology?

Thanks you
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/17/17 10:15 AM

wgntvcom/2017/03/16/student-leaves-providence-catholic-high-school-after-experiencing-instances-of-racism/

http://wgntv.com/2017/03/16/student-leav...nces-of-racism/

shrug
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/17/17 12:35 PM

This is what happens when you prime faulty neuroception.

The stick gets mistaken for a snake.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/23/17 10:49 AM

Sword death of black man is "assault" on diversity, New York officials say


oh- so that is what it is !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/27/17 10:32 AM

Hannity Offers to Send Obama and Family on One-Way Trip to Kenya ...

Ted Koppel Tells Hannity “You're Bad For America" To His Face ...







does anybody hear agree with beck ?? ) shrug
Glenn Beck: Tea Partiers Who Support Donald Trump Are Racist
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/27/17 11:08 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/31/17 10:32 AM

CNN TV Host Discusses Racism In Comedy Routine
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/31/17 10:47 AM

Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 03/31/17 02:32 PM

I haven't checked in on this thread in a while because the original premise was stupid to begin with, but it looks like ShortBus is now just posting up pretty pictures further proving how deeply his head is buried in regard to this thread's original topic.

People who've never been on the receiving end of racism (who yet still sometimes file that claim) and who cavalierly make the claim that racism never exists, clearly lack understanding and empathy.

Instead of listening to people who have been on the receiving end of racism and trying to understand their position, they bask in their own obliviousness and post pretty pictures that help distract them from any outside influence.

I suppose I shouldn't be so harsh. I completely lack any understanding as to how someone can be so completely stupid as ShortBus, and zero desire to empathize with his plight.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/02/17 02:16 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/the-gops-ideological-identity-crisis/521316/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/02/17 02:27 AM

Posted By: psykophant

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/02/17 06:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Gnudz
I haven't checked in on this thread in a while because the original premise was stupid to begin with, but it looks like ShortBus is now just posting up pretty pictures further proving how deeply his head is buried in regard to this thread's original topic.

People who've never been on the receiving end of racism (who yet still sometimes file that claim) and who cavalierly make the claim that racism never exists, clearly lack understanding and empathy.

Instead of listening to people who have been on the receiving end of racism and trying to understand their position, they bask in their own obliviousness and post pretty pictures that help distract them from any outside influence.

I suppose I shouldn't be so harsh. I completely lack any understanding as to how someone can be so completely stupid as ShortBus, and zero desire to empathize with his plight.





Distractions are real.
So as that pertains to the title and your post, "distraction" doesn't mean "doesn't exist".
Not at all.

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/02/17 11:31 PM

http://www.freep.com/story/life/advice/2017/04/01/carolyn-hax-advice-column-racism/99889056/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/02/17 11:45 PM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/03/17 12:49 AM



That is not so much racism as much bias. Dumb people think dumb stuff.

bias + power to act on bias in a way that will affect other people negatively = what we call "racism."

I've really been thinking about this.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/04/17 09:36 AM

http://www.expressnews.com/news/news_col...te-11045049.php
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/04/17 11:15 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 09:14 AM

http://www.sltrib.com/home/5116879-155/mormon-blogger-trumpets-alt-right-racial-views
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 01:35 PM

Why not just say bias and a lack of fair-mindedness?

Is it because it defuses the blame of the undesirable behavior?

"Racism" is just an unfair expression of power.

Shouldn't that be what we abhor?

Do we not like that because unfair expression of power is not just for white men anymore?

I'm curious about this.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 03:21 PM

Why frilly it up when we have a single word that accurately describes the person?
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 04:56 PM

Police Are More Likely To Shoot You If You're Black
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 05:24 PM

This thread trips me out. What was the original point? All I know is for those that have been victims of actual racism, it is very real. Nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media? It may be used as a distraction by politicians and the media to varying degrees, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. One of my buddies is a smart, successful, black guy who happened to grow up in Texas. He's never been in trouble in his life, has better manners than any of us, and to hear some of his experiences in that hell hole of a state would blow your mind. Good luck telling him it's all just a distraction driven by politicians and the media. socrazy
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 09:39 PM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )





Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/05/17 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta
"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media


Originally Posted By: Autoprax


"Racism" is just an unfair expression of power.




juxtaposition straightens twisted thinking !! )
Posted By: JimiMcJimi

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 07:29 AM

Evolutionary, racism is a group-mechanism to gain an advantage. Cynically, once this advantage is achieved, the group splinters and new sub-groups are forming. In other words, all those group things are viscious circles, never ending.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 10:43 AM

In Boston, less racism is still racism
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 11:04 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: JimiMcJimi
Evolutionary, racism is a group-mechanism to gain an advantage. Cynically, once this advantage is achieved, the group splinters and new sub-groups are forming. In other words, all those group things are viscious circles, never ending.


So one person can't be racist?

Or that person has to be part of the dominant power to exercise it?
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun


"racist" feels like a loaded term.

That is going to trigger both sides of the issue. Which we don't want. We need cool heads that slowly and quietly strive for systematic fairness.

To not spook the herd.

Again the problem is what it always is, people.

We don't have a race problem, we have a people problem. frown
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/06/17 02:42 PM

The fact that GromSad has made this thread his little pet project says a lot about him.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/09/17 02:29 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-history-of-racism-i-didnt-want-to-share.html
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/09/17 05:24 PM

Availability heuristics won't give us an accurate picture and that is what the person is using to come to her conclusion.

Not saying it doesn't suck sometimes to not be a member the dominant culture.

But who ain't a slave?
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/09/17 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax


But who ain't a slave?


Cracks me up when a white person says that.

Especially a hyper self-aware person.

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/10/17 01:46 AM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax


But who ain't a slave?


Cracks me up when a white person says that.

Especially a hyper self-aware person.

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/87LGmm1M5Is" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



It's an allusion to Moby Dick.

Have you read it?

You might learn something.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/10/17 02:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax


But who ain't a slave?


Cracks me up when a white person says that.

Especially a hyper self-aware person.

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/87LGmm1M5Is" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



It's an allusion to Moby Dick.

Have you read it?

You might learn something.
Typical speciesist response.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/10/17 11:01 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/10/17 11:03 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/11/17 10:49 AM

http://altoday.com/archives/16238-robert...ows#prettyPhoto

com/archives/16238-robert-bentley-paramour-rebekah-mason-behind-effort-shut-dmv-offices-black-counties-new-report-shows#prettyPhoto
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/11/17 11:36 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/11/17 12:40 PM

Why is gross dad posting pictures of sailboats on racism thread?

Is he mad?
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/11/17 03:00 PM

He's a very sad little man. shrug
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/12/17 10:24 AM

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-for-white-america-its-happy-days-again-w476143
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/12/17 10:41 AM

Such a classic looking boat.









[img]http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1...t=1478880878000[/img]
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/14/17 09:10 AM

Friday !! )

Have a Good One !! )
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/14/17 09:23 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/14/17 09:25 AM

Going on a short surf trip leaving shortly. If you don't see me posting much here for the next week it means I'm scoring. If I'm posting like crazy means I'm skunked.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/15/17 09:17 AM

http://radaronline.com/videos/you-the-ju...net-troll-case/

com/videos/you-the-jury-show-jose-baez-benjamin-crump-fox-news-jeanine-pirro-racist-internet-troll-case/

roflmao
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/16/17 12:53 AM

Pic from my travels.


Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/16/17 02:22 AM

surfs down1
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/16/17 09:03 PM

Gotten surf every day. Nothing too spectacular but worth paddling out every day. Just nice to not have to wear a 5mm.



Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/20/17 09:09 AM

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/5-times...hes-not-racist/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/20/17 10:36 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/21/17 09:54 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Pic from my travels.




travel safely my friend !! )


https://www.usnews .com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-04-18/resurgence-of-intellectual-racists-like-raymond-wolters-in-the-trump-era

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-je...n-the-trump-era
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/23/17 10:27 AM

]"n" word warning-kind of sad !! ( :

/black-state-senator-says-it-s-time-to-call-out-the-raci-1794553744

&#8203;http://www.theroot.com/black-state-senator-says-it-s-time-to-call-out-the-raci-1794553744
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/24/17 09:48 AM

http://shareblue.com/jeff-sessions-revea...f-u-s-children/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/24/17 10:31 AM

I'm back......what did I miss?


Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/25/17 10:42 AM

death threats !! )

http://www.newsweek.com/racism-america-c...y-racial-588989
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/26/17 10:35 AM

a diffi cult subject no ?? ( :

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/04/racist-math-education/524199/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 04/26/17 11:08 AM



Must keep this thread alive. To 100 pages we go!!!!!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/04/17 10:19 AM

"n" word trigger warn !! )

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017...ted_Box_Article

bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/04/04/boston-less-racism-still-racism/

.usatoday.com/2017/05/lebron-adam-jones-racism-society-cavaliers-nba-playoffs-boston-cleveland

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/lebron-a...oston-cleveland
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/04/17 12:42 PM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/04/17 01:46 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun


As an educator with 22 years in the classroom teaching mostly non whites, I have say that these people are misreading the situation.

My guess is that confirmation bias is at work.

If the non whites are doing worse it's because of other factors at work.

Basically, dumb people eat up more of the teacher's resources to produce even smaller gains than average people.

You get much less bang for your buck. Imagine the you have the choice to spend more money on an uglier prostitute that hates to bone than a pretty one who loves her work.

This is what affects how the teacher performs. Not race.

I'll take a class full of smart non whites over a bunch of dumb white kids any day of the week, only because it means a bigger bang for my teaching buck.

The human system loves economy of cognitive strain.

Confirmation bias is messing people up.

That said, you need to spend more money to help the dumb kids for sure.

Thanks!
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/04/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Do you really think this?

Poverty is a complex issue.

How would you deal with it?
Posted By: BillyOcean

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/05/17 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Do you really think this?

Poverty is a complex issue.

How would you deal with it?


Big war
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/05/17 09:19 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/...m=.cb42bd31feda
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/05/17 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: GromsDad


Do you really think this?

Poverty is a complex issue.

How would you deal with it?


Big war


Did you know that in times of peace humans breed more boys?

A couple of years ago China had 6 million men it didn't have girls for.

Those boys are going to be fighting mad if we can invent some good fook dolls.

That is a good movie idea.

The hero must invent fook dolls to prevent the next war.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/05/17 12:45 PM



People are just mean. I'm a handsome elderly causation male (25% jew) and my students say terrible things to me for no reason.

Luckily for me, I have a stinging wit and am able to get back at them by play a mean trick on them at some later date.

But if I was brown or black I might attribute the meanness to racism.

That muslim dr needs to get a thicker skin and learn how to play tricks on her rude patients.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/05/17 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax


People are just mean. I'm a handsome elderly causation male (25% jew) and my students say terrible things to me for no reason.

Luckily for me, I have a stinging wit and am able to get back at them by play a mean trick on them at some later date.

But if I was brown or black I might attribute the meanness to racism.

That muslim dr needs to get a thicker skin and learn how to play tricks on her rude patients.


it hurts you that bad does it ?? )

luckily for me I have a wit that makes me laugh like an idiot !! ) roflmao

seriously thats the second best link of the thread !! )
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 12:47 AM

Yes. I'm sensitive.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 08:58 AM

thats right !! )

own it !! )

http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/05/racist-is-banned-from-baseball-park-for-life/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 01:02 PM

To me it seems like what you are talking about is civility.

If you work with the public, you really see how there are more uncivil people.

That could just be because of the population boom. And the stress of the compression of the middle class.

Or not
Posted By: ElOgro

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
To me it seems like what you are talking about is civility.

If you work with the public, you really see how there are more uncivil people.

That could just be because of the population boom. And the stress of the compression of the middle class.

Or not


Entre más burros menos elotes.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
To me it seems like what you are talking about is civility.


Well, yes.

Being a racist is uncivil.

But not quite the same as not holding the door for someone.

Degrees.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
To me it seems like what you are talking about is civility.


Well, yes.

Being a racist is uncivil.

But not quite the same as not holding the door for someone.

Degrees.



What if that person you don't hold the door for is black?

Gotcha!
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/06/17 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: FecalFace
Originally Posted By: Autoprax
To me it seems like what you are talking about is civility.


Well, yes.

Being a racist is uncivil.

But not quite the same as not holding the door for someone.

Degrees.



What if that person you don't hold the door for is black?

Gotcha!


I don't know, is he also a gay quadriplegic?

hat
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/07/17 11:24 PM

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/03/trumps-h...efferson-davis/

alon.com/2017/05/03/trumps-historical-ignorance-reveals-a-truth-the-party-of-lincoln-has-become-the-party-of-jefferson-davis/
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/11/17 10:04 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: casa_mugrienta



With fervent religious belief, religion is culture.



I have noticed !! )


Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/11/17 02:03 PM

That trump guy is just crazy. He would be crazy without trump or racism.

What you are saying is like blaming the opioid epidemic on the pills and not the pain of life.
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/11/17 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
That trump guy is just crazy. He would be crazy without trump or racism.

What you are saying is like blaming the opioid epidemic on the pills and not the pain of life.


Replace Trump in that sentence with Islam / Christianity and the results are the same.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/11/17 03:28 PM

I agree.

I think we got to get rid of both.

An then open up the sanitariums.

This is a lot of mental health issues.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/12/17 10:51 PM

another Religious experience !! )

richmond.com/news/local/crime/chester-man-charged-in-what-police-describe-as-racially-motivated/article_5554c81e-e236-5361-837b-a43e0f26964a.html

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime...3e0f26964a.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/13/17 08:36 PM

an everyday Religious experience !! ( :

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/driving-while-black.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/14/17 09:59 AM

more than 1 person will be the judge on this !! ( :

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/emanuel-racist-water-dept-emails-contradictory-to-who-we-are/

casa- you agree with eman ?? )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/14/17 04:10 PM




https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vir...m=.5073b195ceae
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/15/17 09:04 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/his-kampf/524505/

Buckley emerged, at an age younger than Spencer is now, as a cultural icon, the founder and editor of mid-20th-century America’s most unsubmissive journal of ideas, National Review, and later the host of its most highbrow television show, Firing Line. Buckley had a flair for theater. He injected his ideas into the public consciousness both openly and insidiously, by announcing them loudly, and by making roguish and heretical asides in otherwise sleepy moments of debate. The poison (or antidote, depending on your view) entered the bloodstream with only the slightest prick felt—but felt it was, and many a viewer came to love and hate Buckley for the thrill of intellectual disorientation. Spencer lacks this suave touch, but he tries to work a lowbrow form of the same magic, through the obnoxious, needling harassment that he and his shitlords call trolling.


“There is a value to shock,” Spencer told me. “You can open someone’s mind with something shocking: ‘I’ve never thought of that before!’ ‘I can’t believe he actually said that!’
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/17/17 10:22 AM

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-museum-exhibit-explores-science-racism
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/17/17 10:23 AM

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/naked-singularity-might-evade-cosmic-censor?tgt=nr
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/18/17 11:00 AM

forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2017/05/17/racist-death-threats-over-net-neutrality-part-of-the-lefts-new-normal/#22b7062b6477

https://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbel...l/#22b7062b6477
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/20/17 09:30 AM

breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17/yale-dean-apologizes-after-calling-people-white-trash-and-uneducated-morons-in-yelp-reviews/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17...n-yelp-reviews/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/20/17 10:13 AM

https://hdontap.com/index.php/video/stream/pa-bald-eagle-ir-cam
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/20/17 10:16 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17/yale-dean-apologizes-after-calling-people-white-trash-and-uneducated-morons-in-yelp-reviews/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17...n-yelp-reviews/


In the interest of fairness she should be fired just like if this was a white dean who did something like this regarding people of color.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/20/17 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17/yale-dean-apologizes-after-calling-people-white-trash-and-uneducated-morons-in-yelp-reviews/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/17...n-yelp-reviews/


In the interest of fairness she should be fired just like if this was a white dean who did something like this regarding people of color.


use full !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/21/17 08:04 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/21/17 11:29 AM

Tiger Woods.....The Players

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/22/17 09:58 AM

bet.com/news/national/2017/05/21/viral-video-shows-man-go-on-a-disgusting-racist-rant-because-he-.html

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2017/05...ecause-he-.html
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/22/17 05:35 PM

Supreme Court Determines North Carolina Republicans Guilty Of Racism
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/22/17 05:41 PM

Alt-Right Racist Murders Black Army Leutenant
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 10:03 AM

.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear-white-people-director-and-star-break-down-why-black-people-cant-be-racist_us_59230aa8e4b094cdba5615fc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear...4b094cdba5615fc
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 01:04 PM

dfhdgdfgdf
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear-white-people-director-and-star-break-down-why-black-people-cant-be-racist_us_59230aa8e4b094cdba5615fc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear...4b094cdba5615fc

Literally retarded
Posted By: FecalFace

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sirfun
.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear-white-people-director-and-star-break-down-why-black-people-cant-be-racist_us_59230aa8e4b094cdba5615fc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear...4b094cdba5615fc

Literally retarded


Literally nothing can be more retarded than Gavin McInnes.
Posted By: sizzld1

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
dfhdgdfgdf


Nope. This is literally retarded. rolleyes
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/23/17 09:59 PM

Racists are more Religious than Muslims !! )





Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/24/17 10:04 AM

http://www.theroot.com/woman-goes-on-racist-rant-in-manassas-va-store-calls-1795454557

Another day, another deplorable going on a racist rant. This time an unidentified white woman can be seen on viral video berating a Latino man, calling him racial slurs, and even threatening him, inside a Manassas, Va.-area Sprint store after he merely tried to be helpful.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/24/17 12:50 PM

I don't get how that gets framed as racist.

That is just a stupid white kunt being stupid.

Drug laws are racist. Making laws to make it so poor people can't get abortions is racist.

When we focus on the wrong thing, we waste energy that should be focused on the real issue.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 10:10 AM

"The whole purse clutching, cross the street, sideways glance kind of racism that you encounter on a day-to-day basis," said Newman. "I think they're on the whole statistically, more dangerous than the Richard Spenser flag waving, hood-wearing kind of racism."

Newman says it's not Spenser calling the cops on him. It's the people he refers to as 'Nervous white women in yoga pants with the 'I'm With Her' and 'Coexist' stickers on their German SUVs."

He says that reference to women is not a stereotype, and he's speaking from real-life incidents that have happened to him more than a dozen times.

"She gave me that look," said Newman. "Let's start the countdown for when the cops show up, and low and behold that's exactly what happened."

He says he's been racially profiled by these women so many times that he's stopped making food deliveries in certain wealthy neighborhoods.

"You can tell they're like does this guy match the description," said Newman. "I know to smile and give them the non-threatening black guy kind of thing, but all it really takes is for one of us to have a bad day and I could end up another tragedy in the street."

REEDMOARHEAR !! ( :

com/content/news/Albemarle-County-farmer-goes-viral-for-Facebook-reaction-to-Lee-protests-and-racism-424084094.html

http://www.newsplex.com/content/news/Alb...-424084094.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
Originally Posted By: sirfun
.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear-white-people-director-and-star-break-down-why-black-people-cant-be-racist_us_59230aa8e4b094cdba5615fc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dear...4b094cdba5615fc

Literally retarded

-
-
super juvenile with above average intelligence !! ) shrug
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
"The whole purse clutching, cross the street, sideways glance kind of racism that you encounter on a day-to-day basis," said Newman. "I think they're on the whole statistically, more dangerous than the Richard Spenser flag waving, hood-wearing kind of racism."

Newman says it's not Spenser calling the cops on him. It's the people he refers to as 'Nervous white women in yoga pants with the 'I'm With Her' and 'Coexist' stickers on their German SUVs."

He says that reference to women is not a stereotype, and he's speaking from real-life incidents that have happened to him more than a dozen times.

"She gave me that look," said Newman. "Let's start the countdown for when the cops show up, and low and behold that's exactly what happened."

He says he's been racially profiled by these women so many times that he's stopped making food deliveries in certain wealthy neighborhoods.

"You can tell they're like does this guy match the description," said Newman. "I know to smile and give them the non-threatening black guy kind of thing, but all it really takes is for one of us to have a bad day and I could end up another tragedy in the street."

REEDMOARHEAR !! ( :

com/content/news/Albemarle-County-farmer-goes-viral-for-Facebook-reaction-to-Lee-protests-and-racism-424084094.html

http://www.newsplex.com/content/news/Alb...-424084094.html


Young black males are a potential threat.

That is not racism.

How you express your threat response is where all the fun stuff takes place.

Young black males have the ability to defuse the threat by sending the message of safety. He even admits to this.

But you say that and it gets you labeled as a racist.

Basically he wants to be free of the laws of cause and effect.

To understand and manage rase issues you need to understand neuroception and cognitive bias.

Thanks you
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Originally Posted By: sirfun
"The whole purse clutching, cross the street, sideways glance kind of racism that you encounter on a day-to-day basis," said Newman. "I think they're on the whole statistically, more dangerous than the Richard Spenser flag waving, hood-wearing kind of racism."

Newman says it's not Spenser calling the cops on him. It's the people he refers to as 'Nervous white women in yoga pants with the 'I'm With Her' and 'Coexist' stickers on their German SUVs."

He says that reference to women is not a stereotype, and he's speaking from real-life incidents that have happened to him more than a dozen times.

"She gave me that look," said Newman. "Let's start the countdown for when the cops show up, and low and behold that's exactly what happened."

He says he's been racially profiled by these women so many times that he's stopped making food deliveries in certain wealthy neighborhoods.

"You can tell they're like does this guy match the description," said Newman. "I know to smile and give them the non-threatening black guy kind of thing, but all it really takes is for one of us to have a bad day and I could end up another tragedy in the street."

REEDMOARHEAR !! ( :

com/content/news/Albemarle-County-farmer-goes-viral-for-Facebook-reaction-to-Lee-protests-and-racism-424084094.html

http://www.newsplex.com/content/news/Alb...-424084094.html


Young black males are a potential threat.

That is not racism.

How you express your threat response is where all the fun stuff takes place.

Young black males have the ability to defuse the threat by sending the message of safety. He even admits to this.

But you say that and it gets you labeled as a racist.

Basically he wants to be free of the laws of cause and effect.

To understand and manage rase issues you need to understand neuroception and cognitive bias.

Thanks you


ok !! )

perfect !! )

so you think he is worried about Muslims ?? ) shrug
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 04:01 PM

He would be if he was around him.

My dad was liberal until the mexicans and asians moved into the neighborhood.

A gang of muslim boys can be pretty off putting even if they are just harmless dopey momma's boys.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
He would be if he was around him.

My dad was liberal until the mexicans and asians moved into the neighborhood.

A gang of muslim boys can be pretty off putting even if they are just harmless dopey momma's boys.


ok !! )

even more perfect !! )

I'll take that as a no

and now GDaddy can get out his actuaries

and let us know how many hundred fold

more legitimate his concerns are !! )

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 10:46 PM

Just wait.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/25/17 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Just wait.


ok !! )

perfect !! )

meanwhile ...
Originally Posted By: afoaf



the most salient points are encouragement and limiting opportunities !! ( :
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/26/17 12:03 AM

I don't disagree.

That is institutional racism, which is as much about cronyism as it is about race.

Though they correlate.

End the drug war.

That is a specific policy change that would help all the races.
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/26/17 10:44 AM

com/opinion/2017/05/23/hate-crime-meant-sow-terror/P0sui1NqnIsVnoYt80eOzN/story.html

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017...eOzN/story.html
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/27/17 09:51 AM

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/killed-portland-train-defending-muslims-170527052848396.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/27/17 10:29 AM

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Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/27/17 11:24 AM

Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 09:08 AM

http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/2017/05/18/how-race-defines-life/101243102/
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 10:13 AM

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Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 10:14 AM

Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad


My friend just got the racing version of this car.

It was 150 grand.

It's scary fast.
Posted By: brukuns

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 02:07 PM

What's up with GromsDad and the image posting? I know what's up...

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 02:25 PM

Just helping him get his thread to 100 pages. At least the pictures I post get looked at......unlike the links he posts daily that never get opened.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 02:34 PM

roflmao I thought you were a political junky man?
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 03:38 PM

Perhaps Sirfin should change his focus to things that can unite the races instead of the things that tear them apart and continue divisions.
Posted By: manbearpig

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/30/17 06:05 PM

Yes because obviously it's sirfun who is holding our societies fabric together foreheadslap
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 05/31/17 10:14 AM

wxyz.com/news/region/oakland-county/birmingham-parents-demand-answers-about-racists-incidents-in-school-district

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/oakland-...school-district
Posted By: Gnudz

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/01/17 06:14 AM

LeBron James' Home Vandalized With Racist Graffiti
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/03/17 05:51 PM

why do the best writers fall in love with being on TV ?? )

ftr I LOVE JW !! )

http://www.theroot.com/jason-whitlock-please-stfu-about-lebron-racism-every-1795762128
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/07/17 09:39 AM

religion of piece !! )

.wusa9.com/news/local/maryland/racism-hurts-and-it-takes-guts-for-a-marine-to-cry-in-public/446325134

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/maryland...ublic/446325134
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/08/17 09:49 AM

com/2017/06/06/sen-ben-sasses-struggle-confront-bill-mahers-racism-understandable-disappointing/

https://thefederalist.com/2017/06/06/sen...-disappointing/

the baggage word !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/09/17 10:02 AM

Two ways to think about racism





author is having a breadth (e !! ) holding contest !! )
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/10/17 02:29 PM

roflmao

washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/06/09/shut-up-slave-a-spilled-starbucks-drink-led-to-a-racist-tirade-and-sidewalk-fight-police-say/?utm_term=.ce9adbcd934e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.ce9adbcd934e
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 10:50 AM

.sportingnews.com/other-sports/news/racist-madden-bowl-e3-ea-chris-duffy-mcfarland/1x6qvj5ehtha01auumvan9qa70

http://www.sportingnews.com/other-sports...a01auumvan9qa70

roflmao
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 10:52 AM

http://beachgrit.com/2017/06/reno-snarling-mess-spewing-threats/
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 03:27 PM

I watched the black people on Real Time last night and I realized we will never get rid of the race issue.

I didn't agree with some of the things the black people said when they talked about race.

But just talking about race triggered a threat response in them.

Disagreeing would make them inaccurately frame you as a racist, even if you are right. So you say nothing.

There is an assumption that the blacks know the right way to respond to race issues and I think this is a faulty assumption from what I have seen.

Hence, we are stuck.

I
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I watched the black people on Real Time last night and I realized we will never get rid of the race issue.

I didn't agree with some of the things the black people said when they talked about race.

But just talking about race triggered a threat response in them.

Disagreeing would make them inaccurately frame you as a racist, even if you are right. So you say nothing.

There is an assumption that the blacks know the right way to respond to race issues and I think this is a faulty assumption from what I have seen.

Hence, we are stuck.

I


Music is the universal language !! )

converse !! )

stand your ground !! )

love thy emeny !! ) smile

IT MIGHT BE YOU ?? ) hat
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 04:40 PM

The blacks are my friends.

Sessions firing up the drug war is a far greater threat to blacks than someone saying nigg@r as a joke or as bait.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I watched the black people on Real Time last night and I realized we will never get rid of the race issue.

I didn't agree with some of the things the black people said when they talked about race.

But just talking about race triggered a threat response in them.

Disagreeing would make them inaccurately frame you as a racist, even if you are right. So you say nothing.

There is an assumption that the blacks know the right way to respond to race issues and I think this is a faulty assumption from what I have seen.

Hence, we are stuck.

I


Agreed
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Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 07:10 PM

Finally.
Posted By: ifallalot

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
I watched the black people on Real Time last night and I realized we will never get rid of the race issue.

I didn't agree with some of the things the black people said when they talked about race.

But just talking about race triggered a threat response in them.

Disagreeing would make them inaccurately frame you as a racist, even if you are right. So you say nothing.

There is an assumption that the blacks know the right way to respond to race issues and I think this is a faulty assumption from what I have seen.

Hence, we are stuck.

I

This black person has a great perspective on race. We must accept that there is a difference in the races, but the blacks need to stop thinking that they are victims. He uses the recent Lebron James graffiti thing as an example of where Lebron complains that its "hard to be black" in America when he has the kind of money and power that the rest of us can only dream of



Dave Rubin is probably the most intelligent pundit out there right now
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 10:40 PM

stuck or going backwards

whatever you and gromsDad perceive

we've come a long way

got a long way to go !! )


Originally Posted By: sirfun
why do the best writers fall in love with being on TV ?? )

ftr I LOVE JW !! )

http://www.theroot.com/jason-whitlock-please-stfu-about-lebron-racism-every-1795762128
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 10:50 PM

Society has to go after systemic race favoritism.

Accusing white people of having privilege is a recipe for failure.


no good will come from that.
Posted By: GWS

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/11/17 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Society has to go after systemic race favoritism.

Accusing white people of having privilege is a recipe for failure.


no good will come from that.


You can already see the backlash among young white males.
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Autoprax
Society has to go after systemic race favoritism.
It has been for long time. A good example is Jackie Robinson. Jackie got his job in an all white factory because he produced, period. Even the dudes that hated him the most for being Black knew that, whether or not they'd admit it in public.

Even today pro baseball and football contains few, if any, EEO hires.


Funny how garden variety White America leads the way (again) on this sort of thing.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
stuck or going backwards

whatever you and gromsDad perceive

we've come a long way

got a long way to go !! )


Originally Posted By: sirfun
why do the best writers fall in love with being on TV ?? )

ftr I LOVE JW !! )

http://www.theroot.com/jason-whitlock-please-stfu-about-lebron-racism-every-1795762128


You fail to realize you're already there. Life is tough for everyone. Make your own way, work hard and quit complaining.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 12:49 AM

A big part of "Chasing the Scream" Hari talks at length about how the drug war focuses on blacks and the poor.

Changing policy is just common sense that everyone should be for, unless you are in the prison guard union, or the DEA, or run a prison that needs full occupancy to insure profits.

Getting mad at white people calling black people "niggers" for whatever reason, to joke or to trigger a threat response, is a misappropriation of anger. That anger should be targeted with precision to affect the maxim positive change.

Thanks.
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 01:26 AM

Around here these days the drug problem seems to be more of a white problem if you want to attach a race to it. Much different than 20 years ago. People are dropping dead every day of heroin overdoses and overdoses of other potent things mixed with heroin. You'll never get me on board for legalization. Personally I think dealers, smugglers and traffickers should be treated the way the are some of the harshest countries on the planet.
Posted By: Autoprax

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 03:47 AM

Keep in mind that you can think something and it can be wrong. What you are saying belies great ignorance. I suggest you seek out more info.

Drug Sentencing Disparities

About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug

5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites

African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.

African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)

More resources

http://drcarlhart.com

http://chasingthescream.com
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 09:39 AM

Originally Posted By: ifallalot
the blacks need to stop thinking that they are victims.


especially the ones thinking they are victims of the "establishment"

that voted for trump !! )



Originally Posted By: ifallalot
the blacks need to stop thinking that they are victims.


I agree !! ) that would be great !! )




Originally Posted By: Autoprax
.Accusing white people of having privilege is a recipe for failure.


victims of said accusation have my heartfelt sympathy !! )
(even and especially the ones imprisoned !! )



Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Life is tough for everyone. Make your own way, work hard and quit complaining.


absolutely !! )

the landscape could use some improving !! )

dont ferget to take your own advice !! ) )) )))







com/story/2017/6/11/1669935/-Trump-really-is-making-America-angry-and-racist-again


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/11/...nd-racist-again
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/12/17 11:28 AM

You're the one with a 57 page thread whining about every instance of race you can find on the web. At some point you need to just let it go. Do you even surf? Have you ever posted anything here surfing related?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/14/17 06:55 AM

Originally Posted By: GromsDad
At some point you need to just let it go.



be SURE to take your OWN advice !! ) roflmao










A Night of Terror, a Year of Racism
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/14/17 11:24 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
At some point you need to just let it go.



be SURE to take your OWN advice !! ) roflmao





What???? Mocking the mindless butthurt drivel you post????
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/15/17 08:35 AM


Originally Posted By: GromsDad
Originally Posted By: sirfun
Originally Posted By: GromsDad
At some point you need to just let it go.

be SURE to take your OWN advice !! ) roflmao
What???? Mocking the mindless butthurt drivel you post????


then we do AGREE about you advice !! ) roflmao























Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/16/17 09:19 AM

who is more Religious ?? )



https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...premacy/530244/


.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-southern-baptist-convention-alt-right-white-supremacy/530244/


well as it turns out yes they did !! )

and now "cucked" is official theological nomenclature !! ) roflmao



[img]http://forum.surfermag.com/photopost/data/1270/lol1.png[/img}
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 12:58 AM

http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

is this a feel good story ?? ) shrug



.romper.com/p/honestly-sometimes-im-uncomfortable-with-my-children-making-white-friends-59619

https://www.romper.com/p/honestly-someti...e-friends-59619

retarded ?? ) shrug not a winning strategy ?? )




‘Boomer antifa’: White supremacists rip into paramilitary Oath Keepers for not being racist enough

.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/16/boomer-antifa-white-supremacists-rip-into-paramilitary-oath-keepers-for-not-being-racist-enough/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-racist-enough/

who's more Religious ?? ) roflmao
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 01:05 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

is this a feel good story ?? ) shrug



.romper.com/p/honestly-sometimes-im-uncomfortable-with-my-children-making-white-friends-59619

https://www.romper.com/p/honestly-someti...e-friends-59619

retarded ?? ) shrug not a winning strategy ?? )




‘Boomer antifa’: White supremacists rip into paramilitary Oath Keepers for not being racist enough

.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/16/boomer-antifa-white-supremacists-rip-into-paramilitary-oath-keepers-for-not-being-racist-enough/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-racist-enough/

who's more Religious ?? ) roflmao


I just assumed that your entire post was horseshit and then I saw the little roflamao guy and knew that it was.

Hail Jesus!
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 01:31 AM

music is the universal language !! )
Posted By: CharmingSophisticate

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
music is the universal language !! )
Please tell me I didn't just quote a Billy Graham tune.....or was that Reverend Horton?
Posted By: sirfun

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 10:46 AM

Subscribing to "assimilationist" thinking, he says, serves up racist beliefs about black inferiority. That occurs by promoting freedom but forgetting equality; by placing the burden of combating racism on blacks rather than whites; by implicitly accepting notions of inferiority; or by conflating anti-racist claims and racist fears in an effort to claim a moralizing middle ground.

I dont know about all that but I love the word in quotes !! ) roflmao

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colum...623-column.html
Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 11:03 AM

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Posted By: GromsDad

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Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 11:11 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 11:11 AM

Posted By: GromsDad

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 11:12 AM

Posted By: test_article

Re: "Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media - 06/17/17 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: sirfun
http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

wgrz.com/news/local/auto-shop-removes-racist-graffiti-for-free/449049679

is this a feel good story ?? ) shrug

If my car gets racist graffiti I will definitely show this article around to the body shops.



.romper.com/p/honestly-sometimes-im-uncomfortable-with-my-children-making-white-friends-59619

https://www.romper.com/p/honestly-someti...e-friends-59619

retarded ?? ) shrug not a winning strategy ?? )

I wonder at the writer's comfort level with her kid's non-white, non-black friends. It's not just a white/black thing. What does the study of child psychology reveal about education in race issues?