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fish size chart?

Posted By: nikosurf1

fish size chart? - 04/04/06 11:25 PM

Im looking to see what size traditional fish I should go with. 5'7 and 185 lbs.
Posted By: Nico_D

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 12:11 AM

I'm 5'8" 165 and I surf a 5'8" Channel Island Fish.

I would not go bigger than 5'8", have a friend w/ a CI Fish 5'10" and it's too big for me.
Posted By: tenover

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 12:16 AM

Just remember...If it's over 6', it's NOT a fish...


Posted By: Surfjunkie

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 12:24 AM

I'm 5'10" 163lbs, My Fish is 5'6" x 20" x 2 1/4", I could easily go shorter-
Posted By: LeeD

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 12:39 AM

Stoopid idea of a fish size chart....
Instead, a surfboard size chart based on dimensions...length, width 12" off nose and tail, overall width, and thickness.....
All fish are NOT the same...
Posted By: stockboy

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 01:06 AM

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All fish are NOT the same...




That's the truth. I was very surprised when I picked up that HY4 with how much thinner it felt than my KG. VERY different board with exact same length and mid-width.
Posted By: Debaser

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 03:36 AM

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Im looking to see what size traditional fish I should go with. 5'7 and 185 lbs.




5'4 x 21 x 2 1/2 or maybe a little bit thicker
Posted By: LeeD

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 02:07 PM

Bear in mind, Quicksilver Rep, and for 8 years, a former boatman at Tavarua...and a pretty darn good surfer, at 5'8" and 185 lbs, rides a 5'6" x 22.5 x 2.65" Lis fish for waves up to armsreach overhead.
He goes to a 6'4" Flyer after than, and using the CI less and less.......
Posted By: cmods

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 03:23 PM

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Just remember...If it's over 6', it's NOT a fish...







Yeah Totally! So how come no one has told those KOOK shapers over at rainbow surfboards that yet????

http://www.rainbowsurfboards.com/fishes.htm

Posted By: BrownFish

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 04:18 PM

As you can see, lots of different ideas on what is the right size. It really has nothing to due with the length. It has more to due with the volume of foam. LEED just posted the dimensions of a 5'6" Fish. It may only be 5'6", but it's more than an inch wider and 1/4" thicker than my Fish. Thats alot of foam.

Also, surfboard length has alot less to do with how tall you are than how much you weigh. That is key. Alot of taller people are riding pretty short boards, but they don't weigh that much. Your 5'7" and weigh 180. This tells me that your not a string bean. Not sure if it is fat or muscle and it doesn't really matter, it's weight. You need foam to float you.

Next consideration is how well you surf? You have to be honest with yourself. Alot of people buy boards that are too small, when really they could have more fun surfing if they bought a board that helped them catch waves better. These days, especially with Fish, you can have an extremely loose board, that paddles really well.

So, to make a long synopsis longer, you would be better off examining the above issues and experimenting with what size works best for you. Go to the Fish Fry and try out every board you can. Also ask some of your freinds that you surf with alot. If they are good friends they should be able to give you some constructive critisism and some hints on if you should be riding a bigger or smaller board. They should also be able to give you better advice than the people on this BB because they know how you surf.

So here is my comparison. I am 5'7" and have ranged from 160-175 over the last two years. I should weigh 150. I am 37. Have surfed since I was 15. Feel I surf better than average and usually get my share of waves where ever I surf.
I surfed standard thrusters 6'2" up til two years ago when I got my first Fish. It was a 5'10 CI. It took a while to get used to, but I still pretty much ride that same board. I have tried almost every good Fish shapers boards from 5'6" to 5'10" and they all worked. But, I have no problem with my 5'10" CI feeling too big, it surfs great for me. I have a 5'10" Hynson Speedialer that is thinner, narrower, and pulled in alot more. I rode it yesterday in some pretty hollow surf and it worked great. My next boards are coming from Pavel (ordered along time ago) they are a 5'7" Keel and a 5'8" speeddialer. Every fish shaper seems to do different things. I have ridden Pavels that are 5'10" and they definately felt too big. The CI doesn't, but if I were to order another CI, then it would be the 5'8" skinny.

So there you have it, really you need to experiment and figure out what works best for you. Don't let anyone tell you that you should be riding a 5'6" because its what everyone else is doing. It's BS. Find out whats right for you.
Posted By: SB_surfer

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 05:06 PM

You asked for it:
Code:
FISH SIZE CHART
YOUR WEIGHT SIZE NOSE WIDTH TAIL THICKNESS
155-160 5-6 17 21 5/8 16 3/4 2 1/2
165-170 5-8 17 21 7/16 16 3/4 2 9/16
170-175 5-10 17 21 1/2 16 3/4 2 5/8
175-180 6-0 17 21 5/8 16 3/4 2 3/4
180-185 6-2 17 21 3/4 16 3/4 2 7/8
185-190 6-4 17 21 7/8 16 3/4 3
190-200 6-6 17 22 16 3/4 3 1/8



Courtesy of Harbor Surfboards.
Posted By: hallucinogenic_toreador

disagree completely - 04/05/06 05:07 PM

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Also, surfboard length has alot less to do with how tall you are than how much you weigh. That is key. Alot of taller people are riding pretty short boards, but they don't weigh that much.




all other things being equal, length more directly relates to height and stance width, whereas width, thickness, and foil are more related to weight.

tall flyweight stringbeans riding shorter boards tend to have awkwardly compressed stances in order to nail the sweet spots, just like short heavyweights riding too long tend to have the opposite problem with bullrider stances.
Posted By: nikosurf1

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 08:22 PM

Im currently on a 5'9 x20 5/8 x2 3/8 full rails, a tiny more narrow in the tail.I'm 5'7 and 185 lbs.Too small?
Posted By: Debaser

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 08:34 PM

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Im currently on a 5'9 x20 5/8 x2 3/8 full rails, a tiny more narrow in the tail.I'm 5'7 and 185 lbs.Too small?




you need to go SHORTER, WIDER and THICKER
Posted By: LeeD

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 10:26 PM

Thank you, Mr Debaser...!!
Posted By: Debaser

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 11:43 PM

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Thank you, Mr Debaser...!!




I thought your suggestion of "5'6" x 22.5 x 2.65" was pretty damn good....


To nikosurf1.... I am 3 inches shorter and about 25 lbs. lighter than you, I ride a 5'0 x 20 x 2 3/8 fish.... plenty of board, floats just fine, catch a ton of waves.... YOU CAN GET A BOARD SHORTER THAN YOU!!!!!! TRUST ME!!!!!
Posted By: BrownFish

Re: fish size chart? - 04/05/06 11:56 PM

You guys are giving a guy recomendations and you don't know how well he surfs, or how he surfs. Debaser surfs a 5'0" and it works fine for him. But, you know what, I've seen lots a Fish in the past, and rarely are they 5'0". I think Debaser is more the exception than the rule. And LeeD has surfed a 5'0" disc backside, switchfoot at triple overhead Pipe. We all know you can go shorter than you are, but the key is to find the right board that works for you and your skills. It's all about skills.
Posted By: Basswave

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 12:07 AM

Quote:

You asked for it:
Code:
FISH SIZE CHART
YOUR WEIGHT SIZE NOSE WIDTH TAIL THICKNESS
155-160 5-6 17 21 5/8 16 3/4 2 1/2
165-170 5-8 17 21 7/16 16 3/4 2 9/16
170-175 5-10 17 21 1/2 16 3/4 2 5/8
175-180 6-0 17 21 5/8 16 3/4 2 3/4
180-185 6-2 17 21 3/4 16 3/4 2 7/8
185-190 6-4 17 21 7/8 16 3/4 3
190-200 6-6 17 22 16 3/4 3 1/8



Courtesy of Harbor Surfboards.




Thats a good starting point, but of course I would not carve that into stone.

Something like that shoud be made into a sticky and I would encourge people like Buckley and Griffon to give thier persective input as well.

Also something like that chart for a "Flyer type" shapes would be nice to see as well.
(I think they are generally ridden about 2-3" taller than your hieght, but could be wrong I don't ride them).

Posted By: LeeD

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 12:19 AM

Hey, you gotta be realistic at least a little !!
You know I always post I ride a 7'9" BIC Funboard at 22" wide.
Well, switching to the Q rep's 5'6" fish, I caught just as many waves no problem, but it did turn rather nicely quick.
Posted By: BrownFish

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 12:53 AM

I know, I know, I was kidding. But, a better question we should be asking Niko is what he doesn't like about the 5'9" Christensen that he already has? I think that might help everyone give him a little insight on which way he should go.
Posted By: LeeD

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 12:57 AM

Well, I DID recommend a bigger board, it's just shorter!
Since I tried it on 7 waves at Cojo, and then switched back, I can honestly say it catches waves almost as easy as my BIC, which we all know, doesn't work, doesn't turn, doesn't catch waves ..
Posted By: serf

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 04:11 PM

the harboursurfboards.com is great.

harbour is a big fan of if it goes over 6'2" it isn't a fish.

Like 10over said .

Since he is a uber shaper, I will go with his advice.
Posted By: LESider

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 04:36 PM

remember that Harbour is assuming you are stepping down from a longboard with that chart so if your coming from a short board you can drop down one or two sizes. He mentioned it on the Harbour forum.
Posted By: nikosurf1

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 04:43 PM

I have a 6'0 Rainbow Speedialer that catches waves alot easier, and is obviously a slimmer outline with pretty much equal width at its widest point. I rode a 5'10 KG, which was 21 wide and like 2 5/8 thick and it seemed to catch waves alot easier a well. I like the ride of the Christenson, but catching waves/getting into waves early is a strugggle. I should probably just work with the board more.
Posted By: BrownFish

Re: fish size chart? - 04/06/06 05:00 PM

So, there you have it. A 6'0" speeddialer (Toby usually carries more foam throughout) and a 5'10" KG both work well. But, The Christensen seems to be a struggle. Chris tends to shape his boards pretty thin and narrow and pulls them in alot more than others. So, if it were me, the shortest I would go is 5'8", but your gonna have to look at the dims of your Pavel and KG and add some width and thickness to make up for the loss in length. You would probably be better off staying in the 5'9-10" range with similar width/thickness of your other boards.

On another note, I wouldn't mind trying your Christensen, so if you like to meet up one day and try my 5'10 CI Fish or 5'10 Hynson Speeddialer, I would be up for it. Don't want to here any brokeback sh*t from all you trolls.
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