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#2793897 - 05/16/18 01:01 PM Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why
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Do you use front traction?

Would you ever, or are you opposed in concept?

If you are opposed, do you use tail traction?

If you do, how do you reconcile this apparent contradiction?

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#2793908 - 05/16/18 01:12 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Didnt everyone hate front traction back in the day?

Just seems like its the trendy thing to do right now. Tail pads only for me, and occasionally no pads. The latter especially on traditional fish, but Im not opposed to it.
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#2793916 - 05/16/18 01:21 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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No.

I've tried astrodeck, versa traction, and viskus. I prefer wax though.

Yes, I use a tail pad.

I reconcile the contradiction because:

Astrodeck caused debilitating nipple rash. Also, my front foot would get caught on the corner of the astrodeck at times when I was popping up, especially when wearing booties.

Versa traction didn't have the tackiness of wax so your chest would slide off the board.

Viskus worked the best because it was tacky but becomes slippery after 10 uses or so.

Rear foot traction doesn't rash my sensitive bits, provides superior traction for the dominant foot used when turning (hpsb surfing), helps a bit in preventing tail cancer, helps my foot find the right spot.
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#2793946 - 05/16/18 01:56 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Like the nostalgia of wax, the process, the smell, grip is usually an after thought.

I mostly use tail pads, but if a board "tells" me it doesn't need one I'll leave one off. Usually works.

I've tried front grip, it's fine, but I don't like the way it looks.

Surprised by how well a raw cork deck works, never slipped off the boards I've had with it.
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#2793958 - 05/16/18 02:08 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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A thin coat of the spray on traction and then a little wax over that is a good combo that won't tear up your chest.
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#2794012 - 05/16/18 03:57 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Shorter boards prefer a tail pad, even though sometimes you're standing just in front of it, it's a good gauge of where you're at or where you should be.

Longer boards your foot placement can vary a bit more so wax only seems fine as you're not usually at the very back of the board anyway.
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#2794015 - 05/16/18 04:06 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Front traction worked for Barton Lynch and Glen Winton back in the day. Not my cup of tea though. Tail pad is a must have on a short board.





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#2794021 - 05/16/18 04:21 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Heres my grumpy old man take

Surfboard margins suck

Traction pad margins are great

Surfboard makers want to sell you accessories like traction so they make better profits

At one time, nobody used them

But now everyone is convinced you must have this $40 accessory

Soon everyone will be convinced you need the $40 front traction too

Now your board cost just went up by 5%

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#2794036 - 05/16/18 04:32 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Heres my grumpy old man take

Surfboard margins suck

Traction pad margins are great

Surfboard makers want to sell you accessories like traction so they make better profits

At one time, nobody used them

But now everyone is convinced you must have this $40 accessory

Soon everyone will be convinced you need the $40 front traction too

Now your board cost just went up by 5%


I don't think so. I think there is a legitimate function to a rear pad. While one is still able to surf a hpsb without a rear pad, I argue you can push even harder with one.

Regarding front foot traction I think some people like them, some people don't, and some use them because their favorite pro uses them.

I agree that they are expensive though. Margins on those things must be yuuuuuge.
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#2794037 - 05/16/18 04:33 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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See photos of Barton Lynch and Glen Winton above.

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#2794038 - 05/16/18 04:36 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Originally Posted By: BillyOcean
Heres my grumpy old man take

Surfboard margins suck

Traction pad margins are great

Surfboard makers want to sell you accessories like traction so they make better profits

At one time, nobody used them

But now everyone is convinced you must have this $40 accessory

Soon everyone will be convinced you need the $40 front traction too

Now your board cost just went up by 5%


No. I don't see front traction being a thing again. There have been so many traction gimmicks over the years that I've lost count. Everyone goes back to wax in the end.

Who remembers when nano speed sprays on the bottom of boards was going to be the next big thing?

Don't forget your $120 set of must have fins.

PS: Surfboard makers don't sell traction.....surf shops do. The real money there is in the clothing anyway.

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#2794040 - 05/16/18 04:37 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: nightfly]
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Originally Posted By: nightfly
See photos of Barton Lynch and Glen Winton above.


Dang I'm getting old........

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#2794042 - 05/16/18 04:41 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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I have rear traction on all boards and front traction on a few. I personally like the way I can move the board when my feet are in front traction. You can pull the board under you or push it ahead of you like a skateboard with grip tape. I also like that both my front and back foot are now on the same level. I also enjoy not putting any wax on when I surf. I think it's fun for a few boards in the quiver. The flat corduroy ones don't cause me any rash.

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#2794051 - 05/16/18 05:00 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Here's proof:



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#2794054 - 05/16/18 05:01 PM Re: Front Traction, or, Your Traction Preferences and Why [Re: BillyOcean]
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Normally I'd say yes to rear (for HPish boards, NO for old school boards/fishes) and NO to front...cause I'm 39 with bad knees and cant do airs.

However I just picked up a sick barely used CI Twin Fin that had Octopus traction front and back, and despite feeling like a goon while paddling out it worked quite well. I dont think im going to go to the trouble of peeling it off...but if I get a bunch of shit at my local (which is decidedly old school...) I may.

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