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#2719793 - 12/06/17 02:01 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
Pancakes15 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/15
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Just got back from a week in Kauai, stayed in Hanalei Bay.

That end bowl section is tricky. I surfed it last Friday, pretty big out. Broke a rental board. The day before was bigger, I did not go out.

Its a fun wave but yea, the current, swing sets, and that bowl section make it pretty difficult.

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#2720031 - 12/06/17 08:01 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
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Originally Posted By: Racer1
I'd say ounce for ounce, Hanalei is the most frightening wave to surf. I think it's scarier than Pipe or Sunset at the same size. I don't know what it is, it just feels so uncomfortable.

It's no surprise Kauai guys do well at Sunset (Andy, Fuller, Valerie, Kamalei, etc).


Ya, there's definitely an "aura" when surfing Hanalei at size. When I say "size", talking solid 2x O'head +. When smaller it's actually a really fun and near perfect wave, with the right swell directions. I've had my ass handed to me on a solid 3x O'head day out there, with only a 6' 10" California step-up. Need a bit more board to compete with the older guys on their speed-gun behemoths. Basically pinned out longboards. It's a down the line wave, with not many chances for snaps or cutback, except when smaller. When small (shoulder to 8 ft + faces) it's a fun wave for all. But get some size, be ready for it, unless you hang way inside next to the channel.

From my experience there at a wide range of sizes, it gets tricky approaching the 14-16 ft + face range, if swell direction is not ideal. Hanalei seems to favor more west direction, than north for those perfect outside peak to inside bowl section rides. It wraps more on a west, instead of that in-between section that pops up on more north swells. Get caught having to straighten out there (if you fail to kick out), be ready for some pounding paddling back to the channel. Just my experience, and others with longer more intimate relationships with the spot may differ some.

The other thing about Hanalei bay, is that when a very large swell pulls in, it doesn't really get bigger, but gets thicker. It doubles up more, and get a bit more ledgy. The bay/point itself rarely seems to get over 25 ft faces, even when a 40 ft swell is running. It just gets thicker and more gnarly. Many times the outer reefs capping off take some of large size off. But, direction makes all the difference sometimes. Norths and NE swells tend to section more, while NW and WNW seem to wrap better for a cleaner "point" type wave.
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#2720033 - 12/06/17 08:06 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Pancakes15]
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Originally Posted By: Pancakes15
Just got back from a week in Kauai, stayed in Hanalei Bay.

That end bowl section is tricky. I surfed it last Friday, pretty big out. Broke a rental board. The day before was bigger, I did not go out.

Its a fun wave but yea, the current, swing sets, and that bowl section make it pretty difficult.


Was out for four hours on Friday, saw two broken boards. Was yours a longboard/funshape rental? I think we both got worked on the same set between the end bowl and the middle. I came up and you were about 20 yards inside me with two pieces.

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#2720034 - 12/06/17 08:10 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
It wraps more on a west, instead of that in-between section that pops up on more north swells. Get caught having to straighten out there (if you fail to kick out), be ready for some pounding paddling back to the channel.


Me and my crew kept calling that zone "the allure" because you see those peaks that swing wide from the pack, but after every wave you get torched on the inside. It's actually safer to sit up the point and try to get a deep one.

It's an addicting wave.


Edited by Racer1 (12/06/17 08:11 PM)

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#2720042 - 12/06/17 08:18 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
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Originally Posted By: Racer1
Originally Posted By: Surfdog
It wraps more on a west, instead of that in-between section that pops up on more north swells. Get caught having to straighten out there (if you fail to kick out), be ready for some pounding paddling back to the channel.


Me and my crew kept calling that zone "the allure" because you see those peaks that swing wide from the pack, but after every wave you get torched on the inside. It's actually safer to sit up the point and try to get a deep one.

It's an addicting wave.


Ya, I've dealt with that decision a more than a few times. Those swing wides look tempting sometimes, but I think you're right, perching yourself further up the point near the main peak seems a bit safer with some size. The payoff is a much better wave anyway, when it connects all the way thru. It's those in between size days that really tempt you on those swing wides. wave2
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#2720043 - 12/06/17 08:19 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
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The other issue is that you can't really see a set coming in, until it's in front of you.

Maybe cause it's closer to the storm than Oahu?

I'm usually good at anticipating sets, but don't spot them at Hanalei.

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#2720048 - 12/06/17 08:29 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
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Originally Posted By: Racer1
I'd say ounce for ounce, Hanalei is the most frightening wave to surf. I think it's scarier than Pipe or Sunset at the same size. I don't know what it is, it just feels so uncomfortable.

It's no surprise Kauai guys do well at Sunset (Andy, Fuller, Valerie, Kamalei, etc).


Ya, when you look at all the other bay spots (middles, etc;) and out to the Haena breaks at real size, along with other winter type breaks on the island, they just feel more raw and powerful in general. No wonder the Kauai boyz do well when surfing the North Shore contests in similar size. It's like the difference between skiing a vertical chute in the Rockies and skiing the black diamond runs at Tahoe. Both challenging, but one WAY more hairball.
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#2720054 - 12/06/17 08:39 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
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Originally Posted By: Racer1
The other issue is that you can't really see a set coming in, until it's in front of you.

Maybe cause it's closer to the storm than Oahu?

I'm usually good at anticipating sets, but don't spot them at Hanalei.


Ya, I think that's more of a swell direction thing at times too. It's pretty deep just off the bay, except for the assorted outer reefs, that are way the hell outside the bay. Queens reef is on the west end. Kings is way the hell straight out. And Outside Futures (NE and out a ways) can fool you with their supposed "indicator" waves that don't always translate to a set wave at the point. What you think might be a indicator wave up top the point, isn't necessarily so.

So ya, you have to keep your eyes on the horizon a bit more, and that doesn't even guarantee you'll see it. Some sets just pop more than others. I think swell period may play a role in that too, or multiple swells, directions and periods all combining for unseen double-ups.

Good times.
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#2720060 - 12/06/17 08:47 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
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Originally Posted By: Surfdog
Originally Posted By: Racer1
I'd say ounce for ounce, Hanalei is the most frightening wave to surf. I think it's scarier than Pipe or Sunset at the same size. I don't know what it is, it just feels so uncomfortable.

It's no surprise Kauai guys do well at Sunset (Andy, Fuller, Valerie, Kamalei, etc).


Ya, when you look at all the other bay spots (middles, etc;) and out to the Haena breaks at real size, along with other winter type breaks on the island, they just feel more raw and powerful in general. No wonder the Kauai boyz do well when surfing the North Shore contests in similar size. It's like the difference between skiing a vertical chute in the Rockies and skiing the black diamond runs at Tahoe. Both challenging, but one WAY more hairball.


Pfft, anything would be a breeze after 2x - 4x overhead Hanalei.

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#2720295 - 12/07/17 11:28 AM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
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Registered: 03/17/15
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Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Racer1
Originally Posted By: Pancakes15
Just got back from a week in Kauai, stayed in Hanalei Bay.

That end bowl section is tricky. I surfed it last Friday, pretty big out. Broke a rental board. The day before was bigger, I did not go out.

Its a fun wave but yea, the current, swing sets, and that bowl section make it pretty difficult.


Was out for four hours on Friday, saw two broken boards. Was yours a longboard/funshape rental? I think we both got worked on the same set between the end bowl and the middle. I came up and you were about 20 yards inside me with two pieces.


Haha maybe so, I was on a 6'4" firewire pyzalien....were you on a red board? I saw some guy look back before the wave in case he had to ditch and I was about 30 yards back from him.

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#2720672 - 12/08/17 01:03 AM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
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Yeah, I was on a red board. I think that was me. Hahaha. Good times.

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#2720772 - 12/08/17 11:54 AM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Racer1]
Pancakes15 Offline
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Registered: 03/17/15
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Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Racer1
Yeah, I was on a red board. I think that was me. Hahaha. Good times.


Lol nice. Super fun wave though.

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#2721042 - 12/08/17 10:58 PM Re: Kauai condo for vacation rent [Re: Surfdog]
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2017 and 2018 availability update:

Get reservations/hold dates EARLY with minimum, fully refundable deposits.
Winter/2018 interest is picking up. Get reservations in soon for favored holiday periods.

PayPal now available for last minute bookings.

Update on move: My business transition is being delayed at least 6 more months. So, I've tentatively pushed out to July 1, 2018 as the cut-off date for rentals beyond that time.

Dec 4 thru Dec 14 is BOOKED

Dec 15 thru Dec 29 is OPEN

Dec 30 thru Jan 9 is BOOKED

Jan 10 thru Jan 17 is OPEN

Jan 18 thru Jan 24 is BOOKED

Jan 25 thru Jan 30 is OPEN

Jan 31 thru Feb 9 is BOOKED

Feb 10 thru Feb 12 is OPEN

Feb 13 thru March 3 is BOOKED

March 4 thru May 1, 2018 is OPEN

May 2 thru May 8 is BOOKED

May 9 thru June 30 2018 is OPEN

PM me for details and a brochure I put together, or send me a e-mail (click "Surfdog" above avatar for e-mail address), or leave message here.

Rates are STILL at "Bro-deal" prices for 2017 and 2018, and starting at $120 a night for minimum 3 night stays.

Visits longer than 8 days are discounted even more (almost like one night FREE). Stays longer than 2 weeks are even better, and negotiable. Get reservations in early for best dates.

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